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<mota> ajavid: why?
<Shawn146> so windows is offtopic... oh i see
<MetaPhaze> how much ram is needed for windows 7
<el`dominador> MetaPhaze i heard 1GB is alright, but its not sufficient
<ajavid> mota, because you are nattorwing it down to torrent specfically and he comes back with 'its not a torrent' in his defense convluting the point even more.
<mota> MetaPhaze, anything less than a gig is going to be a drag
<m00se> it is sufficient - I use 1 gig right now
<Shawn146> ajavid no i aint
<mota> ajavid: re-read what I said
<el`dominador> mota: what processor you using right now?
<MetaPhaze> i have a gig and a half and a 4 gig swap and windows is complaining
<ajavid> Which is why, it matters little which form the hacked/buthced up version of windows is served, via torrent or whatever.
<m00se> so be careful what you recommend
<Shawn146> its better
<el`dominador> MetaPhaze: yeah. it will complain, now adays 4gb ram is a standard
<MetaPhaze> this is a joke not an os
<ajavid> mota, I'm not going to argue about nonsense, what you said, he CLEARLY misunderstood. I told to ignore what you said, because I too can see why it is confusing.
<Shawn146> not as corrupt
<Shawn146> its cleaned up
<ajavid> You don't agree, so be it. I am not going to argue.
<mota> I said "3rdparty/torrent builds"
<Shawn146> tweaked to actually *work*
<ajavid> and what did he come back with?
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<ajavid> did you read his response?
<MetaPhaze> i've got 4 gigs of ram on my quad core, and linux is only using 400M and i have 10 times the processes running.... this is dispicable... how would you run a game in this kind of crap
<mota> ajavid: I have no control over what someone else comes back with. Right now you're chastising *me*, not someone else
<ajavid> you're looking for an argument
<ajavid> good luck with that.
<m00se> why are you asking in a windows channel MetaPhaze?\
<el`dominador> MetaPhaze i guess windows needs more RAM than your linux
<mota> Gee, who started telling whom what they should and should not say, ajavid?
<Shawn146> no i am not
<Shawn146> i am jsut trying to find something that works
<ajavid> Shawn146, it doesn't matter if its a torrent or not, all experience builds are offtopic here.
<MetaPhaze> m00se, because i'm running windows?
<m00se> MetaPhaze - I run 7 in 1 gig easily
<Shawn146> well i am hear for a real windows problem
<Shawn146> *here
<MetaPhaze> el`dominador, windows is a joke... mcaffee thinks it's a virus... and it is
<el`dominador> i believe i heard that windows 7 wants using more RAM coz it wants to preload everything on the startup... something like Ramboost
<mota> Shawn146: what's the issue?
<MetaPhaze> windows is wasting ram for nothing
<Shawn146> never mind
<m00se> MetaPhaze - stop the trolling - thanks
<MetaPhaze> to sell hardware
<ajavid> mota, I never told anyone what to say. I simply told shawn to ignore wha tyou said because he misunderstood you. You're getting defensive becuase youf eel attacked.
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<ajavid> you're trying to pick an arguemnt trying to make it about YOU,a nd it isn't about you.
<ajavid> you're not that importnat, so relax.
<ajavid> sheesh.
<kyngdom_> could anyone tell me what to put in my .bat file to kill the command prompt off after it runs?
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<MetaPhaze> LOL
<m00se> you're not important mota - relax man
<MetaPhaze> kyngdom_, it should quit when it's done
<m00se> (wow)
<m00se> we all know who wears the pants in here tonight now, don't we
<kyngdom_> MetaPhaze: the bat runs fine, i just want to end the command prompt, which doesn't actually happen right now
<MetaPhaze> kyngdom_, did you start the command prompt yourself with the shortcut?
<kyngdom_> correct
<kyngdom_> no
<kyngdom_> with the .bat shortcut
<kyngdom_> im sorry
<el`dominador> <MetaPhaze> windows is wasting ram for nothing <-- RAM not used is wasted RAM... and windows 7 is intelligently using the RAM you have... it actually makes sense, it boost faster, it loads programs faster. Why do you need to have free RAM thats not being used? makes no sense
<ajavid> yes, and buddying up on the net and this nonsensical solidarity one must show in irc is also a clear sign of who is trying to put on the pants.
<MetaPhaze> el`dominador, talk to me when you actually know something about the os your running
<ajavid> just let it go man its not importnat, someone misunderstood him, I said ignore what he said, and I then I explained it and he go tit.
<MetaPhaze> kyngdom_, in that situation it should quit by itself
<ajavid> WHAT is the problem?
<MetaPhaze> kyngdom_, what version of windows
<kyngdom_> ah, it appears to just be Exit, heh
<m00se> ajavid - I got no beef with you but please don't condescend to me - I'm not interested
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<m00se> thanks
<el`dominador> MetaPhaze: i know the OS that im running, thank you:)
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<ajavid> m00se, you can't play that card with me, it doesn't work. It is petty and smallminded.
<MetaPhaze> el`dominador, you don't actually, it's closed source... you know nothing more than any other windows shmuck
<kyngdom_> sorry for not googling first
<ajavid> Discuss facts, don't get personal.
<kyngdom_> and thanks for the help MetaPhaze
<MetaPhaze> kyngdom_, yep
<el`dominador> geeze guys todays ...
<Shawn146> is flyback online?
<el`dominador> another windows hater?
<MetaPhaze> yep
<Shawn146> oh phew
<MetaPhaze> but i know it better than you do
<m00se> I am small minded, and I am petty - and I spend lots of time in here helping and you know what? ban me - I don't care, but you aren't showing much in the way of judgement here
<Shawn146> flyback ?
<MetaPhaze> i have good reason to hate it
<m00se> I will await the banhammer - at your dicrestion
<Shawn146> oh he's not
<MetaPhaze> i've been using it since dos 1
<el`dominador> hate it, we dont care, it does the job all time
<MetaPhaze> lol
<MetaPhaze> actually it doesn't
<el`dominador> lol
<MetaPhaze> el`dominador, why don't you visit my page for a nice javascript virus
<Shawn146> osorry i misinterpreted it wrong
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<el`dominador> MetaPhaze doesnt mean an OS w/ most vulnerability sucks, its just like this...the most popular OS always does receives the most vulnerability.... ofcourse it makes sense, 90 % of d people uses it
<Shawn146> brb i am going to rebuild with xp
<el`dominador> no one would invest creating exploits to a not so popular OS
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<MetaPhaze> el`dominador, excuse me while i laugh... windows isn't insecure because most people run it windows is insecure because of it's design, and more and more i see windows copying open source strategies for security... make me laugh some more... until you know all the sides try and stick with what you know and don't come after people that know more than you... i compile, and decompile software all day long... when you can tell me some assembly
<MetaPhaze> code from windows maybe i'll be interested in your opinions
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<m00se> windows is no more insecure than linux - linux has vetted repositories for any and all programs and assorted....get with it
<el`dominador> i too code craps on gcc.. it doesnt change my opinion
<m00se> those repos are all https, and windows has nothing like it
<MetaPhaze> m00se, windows is a ton more insecure... tell me, why i don't run a virus scanner... lol because there are no mac/linux/unix viruses...
<m00se> yer god meta - we know this....now...what?
<m00se> move along with your troll
<el`dominador> no virus e? lol
<MetaPhaze> m00se, anyone stupid enough to use a vetted repository when the people that distribute it have pre-coded their repositories in, are just idiots and probably from windows environments
<m00se> you don't run a virus scanner because 1.) you're an idiot, and 2.) you believe the propaganda
<MetaPhaze> el`dominador, that's right
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<m00se> ic so you say the canonicals are stupid to use then
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<m00se> got it
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<jpalmer> Alright.  Lets tall take a moment and review the channel topic.  it mentions polite, reasonable, and constructive.  lets stick to those ideal, please.  If we can't, then lets just stop talking.  Thanks.
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<MetaPhaze> m00se, show me one example of a linux virus
<el`dominador> why not google it MetaPhaze
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<el`dominador> your just waisting others time
<MetaPhaze> el`dominador, because i have
<jmreicha> do you know what rootkits are Meta?
<MetaPhaze> actually i do
<MetaPhaze> that's not a virus
<MetaPhaze> that's from a smart hacker
<Cpudan80> MetaPhaze: let's face a fact here
<Cpudan80> Windows has the tremendous market share -- why would a hacker waste time writing linux viruses if only < 1% of PCs use it?
<Cpudan80> We've seen the # of mac viruses rise drastically over the past few years
<Cirno-chan> MetaPhaze, no viruses exist currently because nobody has a reason to, other than proof of concept.
<Cirno-chan> Same for Macs.
<el`dominador> geeze this guy is so obssesed with open source and wants to believe it has a perfect defense against exploits
<Cpudan80> There's no reason to believe that -- if linux were to become incredibly popular -- viruses wouldn't appear
<Cirno-chan> Cpudan80, it should be about as secure as Windows.
<MetaPhaze> na, you keep paying 300 dollars for your fancy oses that need more and more resources and we'll keep writing software forcing you to give more away and wasting your resources... your resource management can't hold up forever
<MetaPhaze> and viruses
<Cirno-chan> That is, most viruses come from user error.
<MetaPhaze> lol
<Cpudan80> MetaPhaze: I didnt pay $300 for windows
<Cpudan80> It came with my computer
<Cirno-chan> MetaPhaze, contrary to popular belief, Windows is rather secure.
<MetaPhaze> 10 years virus free in linux... no virus checker, no root kits, and hackers every day... this is why 90% of internet servers are *nix
<Jan\> OEM liscense for win ultimate is 200$
<Cpudan80> and the retail OEM price is $150
<Cirno-chan> Most viruses come from user error.
<Cpudan80> MetaPhaze: umm no
<MetaPhaze> Cpudan80, do you run a virus checker?
<jmreicha> linux can get rootkits
<MetaPhaze> sure it can
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<MetaPhaze> lets see you give me one
<Cpudan80> 90% of internet servers are *nix because they have lower costs
<jmreicha> why would i?
<Cpudan80> (supposedly)
<MetaPhaze> any one in this channel i dare you
<MetaPhaze> i'll pay you in fact if you can do it
<jpalmer> MetaPhaze: there are several reasons why many internet servers are unix.  "viruses" are low on that list.
<MetaPhaze> performance would be #1, and viruses #2, and exploits #3 and rootkits #4
<MetaPhaze> yes there are rootkits for windows too
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<MetaPhaze> i can keep going
<MetaPhaze> i dare you
<MetaPhaze> root me
<MetaPhaze> mystrix.homelinux.org
<MetaPhaze> root me
<MetaPhaze> i dare you
<Cpudan80> MetaPhaze: that's really enough
<ajavid> hey its the jpalmer !
<MetaPhaze> fucking windows users
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