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[08-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Periodics#4079
Hey, I'm considering marketing your service via email, sending approximately 600,000 emails everyday directly to differnet inboxes (not spam). While looking at your affiliate program I noticed one flaw, the service  on the affiliate site costs 70$ per month while on your site it's only $50. Now, considering it's a large sum to invest, referred users are going to be inclined to visit the original website digifunds.me and notice the prices there are twenty dollars lower. Is there any workaround to this slight issue? Maybe not including .me after digifunds or lowering the price to make it similar to the one offered on your webpage.

[08-Oct-19 08:22 PM] TimoKL#1561
Mate that sounds great, i'll change them now, do you agree with 10%?

[08-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Periodics#4079
Yeah, 10% of 50 would be perfect

[08-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Periodics#4079
I don't know if you can change details for each account

[08-Oct-19 08:28 PM] TimoKL#1561
What do you mean with that last thing?

[08-Oct-19 08:30 PM] Periodics#4079
I've just signed up for an account and it's telling me for the product affiliate percent 20% and product price 70$

[08-Oct-19 08:30 PM] Periodics#4079
I mean could you change the product affiliate percent and product price values for each different rocketr account

[08-Oct-19 08:30 PM] TimoKL#1561
Yeah we didn't use it anymore, but costs are high for us ATM, i'm changing everything right now, sec

[08-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Periodics#4079
Alright, I'm ready to send out the letters, as soon as you set everything up

[08-Oct-19 08:35 PM] TimoKL#1561
Everything is edited, the .me is done, added the image in the product page

[08-Oct-19 08:35 PM] TimoKL#1561
https://i.imgur.com/d165PtZ.png

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https://imgur.com/d165PtZ
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[08-Oct-19 08:41 PM] TimoKL#1561
What is your profile name on rocketr?

[08-Oct-19 08:41 PM] TimoKL#1561
I will pay at the end of every day, is that okay?

[08-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Periodics#4079
my RocketR is RaffaeleA

[08-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Periodics#4079
That's good, as long as it's automatic, if you're busy I'm fine receiving payments even weekly

[08-Oct-19 08:51 PM] TimoKL#1561
Yeah would be perfect man! RocketR keeps track of everything so that's nice

[08-Oct-19 08:51 PM] TimoKL#1561
Let me know when you start sending!

[08-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Periodics#4079
For the 93 days subscription you put 89.99$ instead of 119.99$, once that's fixed I'm ready to send

[08-Oct-19 08:53 PM] TimoKL#1561
Thanks for noticing, fixed!

[08-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Periodics#4079
Great, I'll start sending them tonight

[08-Oct-19 08:54 PM] TimoKL#1561
Awesome man, looking forward to the results

[08-Oct-19 10:52 PM] TimoKL#1561
Let me know when starting!

[09-Oct-19 11:50 AM] TimoKL#1561
Hey man

[09-Oct-19 12:37 PM] Periodics#4079
Haven't started yet, was having a few issues with the domain which are all fixed now

[09-Oct-19 12:37 PM] TimoKL#1561
So you are starting now? Really curious how this works out man

[09-Oct-19 12:47 PM] Periodics#4079
I have to optimize a few more things before I can start sending

[09-Oct-19 03:28 PM] TimoKL#1561
Awesome man! Let me know if you need anything else, i'll give you a higher % as well if we get a lot of sales from this

[09-Oct-19 09:02 PM] TimoKL#1561
Is it working out?

[09-Oct-19 09:30 PM] TimoKL#1561
Let me know if you can't do it for some reason, if you can do it, i'll give you 15% instead of 10

[09-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Periodics#4079
Hey mate, I haven't started it yet as I'm still trying to stabilize the whole process. I also had to make a couple of investments, to further optimize the job (private aged ips, aged mailing account and better software)

[09-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Periodics#4079
15% would be a lot better, if it works for you

[09-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Periodics#4079
My goal is to have a 95% inbox rate and at least a 5% click rate

[09-Oct-19 10:08 PM] TimoKL#1561
Well do 15% then man, did you do this before? How much sales are you expecting?

[09-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Periodics#4079
I've done this a few times before, but for marketing affiliate links

[09-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Periodics#4079
I can't say for sure just yet

[09-Oct-19 10:10 PM] TimoKL#1561
Really curious for the results man

[09-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Periodics#4079
I'll let you know when I start sending the emails out

[09-Oct-19 10:18 PM] TimoKL#1561
Awesome!

[10-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Periodics#4079
We're about to start sending the emails, but the percentage is still at 10%

[10-Oct-19 06:44 PM] TimoKL#1561
Rocketr keeps tracks of the profit, the 10% is for the other refferers, i'll just add another 5% to the payment

[10-Oct-19 06:44 PM] TimoKL#1561
if that's okay with you?

[10-Oct-19 06:44 PM] TimoKL#1561
Like if you made $100 in refferal sales, i'll just add another $50

[10-Oct-19 06:46 PM] Periodics#4079
Alright, that's good by me

[10-Oct-19 06:46 PM] TimoKL#1561
Awesome, looking forward to the results

[10-Oct-19 08:35 PM] TimoKL#1561
let me know when you start

[10-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Periodics#4079
I sure will

[10-Oct-19 09:49 PM] TimoKL#1561
any ETA?

[13-Oct-19 01:48 PM] TimoKL#1561
hey

[13-Oct-19 01:48 PM] TimoKL#1561
still wanna do this or not?

[13-Oct-19 01:51 PM] Periodics#4079
We started sending the emails yesterday night

[13-Oct-19 01:57 PM] TimoKL#1561
Oh shit, i see it

[13-Oct-19 01:57 PM] TimoKL#1561
Loads of views

[13-Oct-19 03:31 PM] Periodics#4079
Any increase in sales?

[13-Oct-19 03:34 PM] Periodics#4079
There were around 6-7 million opened emails, how did the views and new users stack up?

[13-Oct-19 03:48 PM] TimoKL#1561


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[13-Oct-19 03:48 PM] TimoKL#1561
You can see a big increase in views

[13-Oct-19 03:48 PM] TimoKL#1561
But we had no increase in sales

[13-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Periodics#4079
I see

[13-Oct-19 03:50 PM] TimoKL#1561
How is the layout of the email?

[13-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Periodics#4079
One second

[13-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Periodics#4079


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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/631192664292851742/632938816050823188/Sports_betting_template.docx

[13-Oct-19 03:53 PM] Periodics#4079
This is the email that was sent out (the picture was adjusted)

[13-Oct-19 03:53 PM] Periodics#4079
The campaign's now ended with the first 7 million

[13-Oct-19 03:54 PM] Periodics#4079
So there was an increase in views, but not an increase in sales? (outside of rocketr)

[13-Oct-19 03:54 PM] TimoKL#1561
Maybe include that people get crypto, ebooks, etc as well, that we will learn then how to earn online, that we will go out of the way to ensure our users make money

[13-Oct-19 03:55 PM] TimoKL#1561
No increase of sales sadly, we had around 4 to 6 sales a day and we are still at that number

[13-Oct-19 03:56 PM] Periodics#4079
Sports betting was the main earning method, I apologize for not including the other methods

[13-Oct-19 03:56 PM] TimoKL#1561
No problem at all mate, I'll do some groceries and then we'll work on a better email together if you want?

[13-Oct-19 03:58 PM] Periodics#4079
Also the campaign was started on the 11th, and not the 12th

[13-Oct-19 03:58 PM] Periodics#4079
I miswrote earlier

[13-Oct-19 03:59 PM] Periodics#4079
I'd love to, but sadly I had a negative ROI with this campaign, so I don't know if I'll be able to continue

[13-Oct-19 04:00 PM] Periodics#4079
It seems like most email receivers signed up directly through the official website and not the rocketr link

[13-Oct-19 04:01 PM] TimoKL#1561
I think profit is very much possible, but we have to explain in the email that we have complete guides in place that will help people who know nothing about sports etc

[13-Oct-19 04:01 PM] TimoKL#1561
All the referees are from nulled

[13-Oct-19 04:01 PM] TimoKL#1561
What was the cost so far?

[13-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Periodics#4079
It was around 40 euros for renting a server, getting a whitelisted domain, find a sports betting niche based emailing list and configuration to make sure that emails would end up in the inbox instead of spam folder

[13-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Periodics#4079
in fact, I was kinda surprised we hit 96.5% opened emails

[13-Oct-19 04:06 PM] TimoKL#1561
Want to continue if I cover half of the 40 euro?

[13-Oct-19 04:10 PM] Periodics#4079
In case you have any openings, how about being your marketer?

[13-Oct-19 04:11 PM] Periodics#4079
I'd be able then to keep optimizing the process, and send you full statistics of each campaign. And branch out to other marketing markets, like advertisments

[13-Oct-19 04:11 PM] TimoKL#1561
What is your skill set? Just emails?

[13-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Periodics#4079
Most campaigns I've made were through emails, but the other teams I work with are also specialized in advertising, like blog shoutouts and google ads

[13-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Periodics#4079
We could also work on social media platforms, like instagram and twitter

[13-Oct-19 04:52 PM] TimoKL#1561
Let me discuss it with the team

[13-Oct-19 05:23 PM] Periodics#4079
Sounds good

[13-Oct-19 07:09 PM] TimoKL#1561
We had a meeting, we wan't to see some results first, can we redo the email? Like i said, i'll cover 50% (20 euro right?) and you keep the 15% like discussed

[13-Oct-19 07:09 PM] TimoKL#1561
We are looking for a longterm marketing partner

[13-Oct-19 07:09 PM] TimoKL#1561
but need to see some results first

[13-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Periodics#4079
We can definitely redo the email, however, I proposed this offer, because with this last campaign I lost 20 euros. With a partnership, we could discuss prices before initiating a campaign and maybe avoid using rocketr's affiliate system.

[13-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Periodics#4079
I'll be sending the statistics from this round, and even though it might not have increased sales exponentially, it definitely increased traction.

[13-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Periodics#4079


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[13-Oct-19 08:05 PM] TimoKL#1561
there is defiantly a small increase of visitors

[13-Oct-19 08:05 PM] TimoKL#1561
https://gyazo.com/9b6d286865b124dc7381dd54198a7e9f

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[13-Oct-19 08:06 PM] TimoKL#1561
But i agree that linking to the main website might be better

[13-Oct-19 08:07 PM] TimoKL#1561
If you redo this campaign, will different emails be targeted?

[13-Oct-19 08:15 PM] TimoKL#1561
We could also track actual clicks by running a bitly link

[13-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Periodics#4079
I used the same email list provided by the server hosting, next time I could use a different one which should provide a better result

[13-Oct-19 08:16 PM] TimoKL#1561
What is the cost for doing another run? I'll cover that one, if we get some positive results we got work for you

[13-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Periodics#4079
I could work with the same hosting for 40, or try a new email server, which should be able to send more emails from a better performing server for 50

[13-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Periodics#4079
I used bitly on some links, I'll check if they give tracking

[13-Oct-19 08:19 PM] TimoKL#1561
What do you recon gives the best results?

[13-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Periodics#4079
I'll do some research and get back to you

[13-Oct-19 08:44 PM] TimoKL#1561
Sure thing man, ill start writing an email

[13-Oct-19 09:05 PM] TimoKL#1561


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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/631192664292851742/633017578733830218/digifundsmail.txt

[13-Oct-19 09:17 PM] TimoKL#1561
maybe change the bottom part to this

[13-Oct-19 09:17 PM] TimoKL#1561
For more info and prices, or if you wanna join our hundreds of other users, check here: bit.ly/Digifunds
Hope to see you on our platform!

[13-Oct-19 09:18 PM] Periodics#4079
Like the email, it doesn't give out a salesman vibe, it just goes straight to the company's purpose

[13-Oct-19 09:18 PM] Periodics#4079
I'll change the last part with what you sent me

[13-Oct-19 09:18 PM] Periodics#4079
Also, what do you suggest as the subject line?

[13-Oct-19 09:19 PM] TimoKL#1561
What did you put there last time?

[13-Oct-19 09:19 PM] Periodics#4079
"Now you can earn even more, with Sports Betting"

[13-Oct-19 09:20 PM] TimoKL#1561
Maybe make it something "About us"

[13-Oct-19 09:20 PM] TimoKL#1561
Something people don't click away

[13-Oct-19 09:20 PM] TimoKL#1561
"Start earning money online" sounds to much like one of those scams for example

[13-Oct-19 09:20 PM] TimoKL#1561
Or doesn't it?

[13-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Periodics#4079
The last subject line got a good opening rate, because it was transparent about the topic of the email

[13-Oct-19 09:23 PM] TimoKL#1561
Start earning online with Digifunds

[13-Oct-19 09:23 PM] TimoKL#1561
Seems perfect to me?

[13-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Periodics#4079
I like it, it's simple and straightforward, i'll put that in as the subject line

[13-Oct-19 09:24 PM] TimoKL#1561
Awesome

[13-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Periodics#4079
We could send that email out to 13 million email addresses, for 50 euros, or we could send them out to 5 million addresses (different server provider) for 40 euros

[13-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Periodics#4079
Which option would you rather go with

[13-Oct-19 09:28 PM] TimoKL#1561
Lets do the 50 euro one

[13-Oct-19 09:29 PM] TimoKL#1561
Can you send me a PM on nulled to confirm the deal? Or are you okay if i pay after the mailing?

[13-Oct-19 09:29 PM] Periodics#4079
I can surely send you a PM

[13-Oct-19 09:29 PM] Periodics#4079
I'm Ateriala on nulled

[13-Oct-19 09:30 PM] TimoKL#1561
https://www.nulled.to/user/2479957-timokl

[13-Oct-19 09:31 PM] Periodics#4079
I'd prefer 50 with the 50% from the previous campaign, to start the new one, as I'm already 20 euros down, if that's okay with you

[13-Oct-19 09:31 PM] TimoKL#1561
Yeah sure man

[13-Oct-19 09:32 PM] Periodics#4079
Great, my pp is markandjohn123@gmail.com

[13-Oct-19 09:33 PM] Periodics#4079
Also, did you receive my pm?

[13-Oct-19 09:33 PM] TimoKL#1561
Received

[13-Oct-19 09:33 PM] TimoKL#1561
When will you be able to start mailing?

[13-Oct-19 09:34 PM] Periodics#4079
I'll start it out today, and we should start mailing tomorrow afternoon-night

[13-Oct-19 09:34 PM] Periodics#4079
I'll let you know when we begin

[13-Oct-19 09:34 PM] TimoKL#1561
https://gyazo.com/5430df70282aa2b1850e5ac0f63e8d87

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[13-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Periodics#4079
Received and I've already rented out the sending server

[13-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Periodics#4079
I'll keep you updated throughout the process

[13-Oct-19 09:39 PM] TimoKL#1561
Perfect man, i'm off to sleep

[13-Oct-19 09:39 PM] TimoKL#1561
Talk to you tomorrow

[13-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Periodics#4079
👍

[14-Oct-19 09:49 AM] TimoKL#1561
When do you reckon to start sending the emails?

[14-Oct-19 09:52 AM] Periodics#4079
Probably, this afternoon

[14-Oct-19 02:52 PM] TimoKL#1561
Really curious about the results we will get

[14-Oct-19 03:41 PM] Periodics#4079
I'm also eager to see the results, but it'll take around 2-3 days before we can get a clear view

[14-Oct-19 04:03 PM] TimoKL#1561
Yeah exactly, tracking all clicks now so should get some stats

[14-Oct-19 05:52 PM] Periodics#4079
We just started sending out the emails

[14-Oct-19 05:52 PM] TimoKL#1561
Awesome, lets see the results, i'll update you on the bittly stats

[14-Oct-19 05:52 PM] Periodics#4079
Perfect

[14-Oct-19 09:49 PM] TimoKL#1561
Are you sure it started/it's going well? 0 clicks so far

[14-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Periodics#4079
It's supposed to have started

[14-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Periodics#4079
Let me double check with the host

[15-Oct-19 07:04 AM] TimoKL#1561
And?

[15-Oct-19 12:28 PM] Periodics#4079
They've said they're checking, but still got no response back

[15-Oct-19 12:28 PM] Periodics#4079
Any increases in the bitly links?

[15-Oct-19 12:28 PM] TimoKL#1561
Nope

[15-Oct-19 12:29 PM] Periodics#4079
Alright, I'll nudge them a bit more

[15-Oct-19 01:10 PM] TimoKL#1561
Perfect man

[15-Oct-19 05:35 PM] TimoKL#1561
We are getting clicks but not from your emails

[15-Oct-19 05:35 PM] TimoKL#1561
since they come from twitter, FB, pintrest, etc

[15-Oct-19 08:02 PM] Periodics#4079
Are the clicks coming from the bitly link?

[15-Oct-19 08:04 PM] TimoKL#1561
Yes, but from facebook, twitter, pintrest etc

[15-Oct-19 08:04 PM] TimoKL#1561
So not from emails

[15-Oct-19 08:05 PM] TimoKL#1561
And all China, indonesia or brazil, so well known click farm country's

[15-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Periodics#4079
I agree, however I thought the bitly links were just for the emailing

[15-Oct-19 08:20 PM] TimoKL#1561
They are

[15-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Periodics#4079
Maybe more views will appear during the last few hours

[15-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Periodics#4079
Oh could you send me a screenshot of the bitly profile?

[15-Oct-19 08:21 PM] TimoKL#1561
https://gyazo.com/934474f95fc92487b5d4e6f0bf8a362d

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[15-Oct-19 08:21 PM] TimoKL#1561
The nulled is my nulled frontpage ad

[15-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Periodics#4079
Yeah, there should be way more views

[15-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Periodics#4079
Let's see how it progresses and I'll be taking some action with the hosting provider in case it stays the same

[15-Oct-19 08:23 PM] TimoKL#1561
And they should say email, not FB twitter etc

[15-Oct-19 08:23 PM] TimoKL#1561
Yeah perfect

[16-Oct-19 05:49 PM] TimoKL#1561
Any update?

[16-Oct-19 05:52 PM] TimoKL#1561
The trafic the links get are farmed, nobody but you had those links so i'm kinda suspisious

[16-Oct-19 05:54 PM] TimoKL#1561
So i kinda want a update since i'm starting to sense you are scamming me in some way

[16-Oct-19 06:05 PM] Periodics#4079
The hosting is extending the campaign by 2 more days

[16-Oct-19 06:05 PM] Periodics#4079
This is a new provider I haven't worked with before so I'm not 100% sure what to expect

[16-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Periodics#4079
😦 how would i be scamming if i'm 20 euros down

[16-Oct-19 06:06 PM] TimoKL#1561
But the traffic isn't coming from emails, no emails are being send, the traffic is coming from social media aka somebody bought traffic for those links

[16-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Periodics#4079
If the campaign ends up getting 0 new traffic we're getting the money back

[16-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Periodics#4079
even if it gets 200 or 2000 that's not enough for having sent 13 million emails

[16-Oct-19 06:07 PM] TimoKL#1561
No emails have been sent

[16-Oct-19 06:07 PM] TimoKL#1561
All the traffic is coming from a different source

[16-Oct-19 06:07 PM] TimoKL#1561
Somebody bought some cheap trafic for those links

[16-Oct-19 06:07 PM] TimoKL#1561
To make it appear it's getting clicks

[16-Oct-19 06:07 PM] TimoKL#1561
You are the only one besides me with those links

[16-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Periodics#4079
If that's the case I'll be telling that directly to the provider, and we won't be spending a penny

[16-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Periodics#4079
Then we could reinvest in a more trusted source, I've used before or send em back over to you

[16-Oct-19 06:09 PM] Periodics#4079
This happens frequently when switching to a new provider, it takes various tries before finding the best one. I've only tested 3 before and the best results were from the previous campaign, but I'm trying one with a higher click rate

[16-Oct-19 06:18 PM] TimoKL#1561
Hmm, just get my money back and try the previous source please

[16-Oct-19 06:18 PM] TimoKL#1561
Because the current one is scamming me

[16-Oct-19 06:29 PM] Periodics#4079
I understand how this might seem troubling, to be honest I've been scammed twice in the past few months because I was trying to get amazon gift cards for lower than it's original price, but after a few weeks I've landed on a marketplace where I was able to buy one for sixty percent of the price. The point is we can find a host with a higher click rate, but it's going to take some testing and unlike with what happened with the gift cards, in case we aren't satisfied with the amount of clicks and views, the hosting company assures us a full refund. I suggest we wait to see how this plays out and if in 2 days the click/views stay the same, I'll be sending you back your investment. Once you receive your money back you can decide whether to try again with the previous provider, try a new one, which I mentioned previously with fewer emails, but a higher quality and click rate or find someone else.

[16-Oct-19 06:30 PM] TimoKL#1561
Mate, the clicks we are getting AREN'T from emails, either you or them bought some cheap traffic on those links, i would like to get back my money now because you are the ONLY one with those links

[16-Oct-19 06:31 PM] Periodics#4079
Could you send me a screenshot of the bitly links once more

[16-Oct-19 06:31 PM] TimoKL#1561
https://gyazo.com/0ba81d21eb101ca205c7e81d341e5463

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[16-Oct-19 06:34 PM] Periodics#4079
I can't interrupt it now, I'm forced to wait until it's finished, once it's done I'll have access to what was put in

[16-Oct-19 06:35 PM] TimoKL#1561
Just refund me my money, this isn't what we agreed on and i had plenty of patients.

[16-Oct-19 06:37 PM] Periodics#4079
I've run out of ways of helping you understand. I'm not interested in clicks from Oriental countries, because it doesn't drive sales up. Also, I'm not working on this solo, but with other parties, so until they're finished I cannot do anything about it

[16-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Periodics#4079
Please be patient with me for just two more days, and you'll get back what you invested

[16-Oct-19 06:38 PM] TimoKL#1561
Let me break it down for you

[16-Oct-19 06:38 PM] TimoKL#1561
We made a deal where you would send out EMAILS

[16-Oct-19 06:38 PM] TimoKL#1561
Instead i'm getting traffic from SOCIAL MEDIA

[16-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Periodics#4079
Sorry, not two days, but one

[16-Oct-19 06:38 PM] TimoKL#1561
Traffic that's fake because how on earth do people only click on the FIRST and LAST link and not the crypto link

[16-Oct-19 06:39 PM] TimoKL#1561
Plus it's coming out of clickfarm countries (india, china, brazil)

[16-Oct-19 06:39 PM] TimoKL#1561
Stop acting like i'm stupid please, i know exactly what's going on

[16-Oct-19 06:40 PM] Periodics#4079
I totally agree with you, that's why I'll be denying their job and get back the inital investment

[16-Oct-19 06:40 PM] Periodics#4079
Also, I'm looking for a long term partnership, not some measly 40 euros

[16-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Periodics#4079
Until one day has passed and the campaign's officialy finished, it's out of my control

[16-Oct-19 06:41 PM] TimoKL#1561
But i deal with you, i paid you, not some people so i don't have to deal with other people, you said you rented something out to send mails, you said you had a email list which you would put in

[16-Oct-19 06:41 PM] TimoKL#1561
Instead i'm getting fake clicks

[16-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Periodics#4079
That's why I'm kindly asking for an extra day

[16-Oct-19 06:41 PM] TimoKL#1561
Iv'e waited for 2 days and i'm getting nothing but fake clicks

[16-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Periodics#4079
I sent the email sending server the email list I initially had, but they're probably faking the results with a method of theirs

[16-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Periodics#4079
Don't worry, I've made the mistake this morning allowing for the extension of the campaign by one more day. Tomorrow i'll be getting the initial funds back

[16-Oct-19 06:43 PM] TimoKL#1561
Just refund my money please, either that or i'll open a scam report

[16-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Periodics#4079
That's sad to hear, I've been trying to work with you, not against you. I don't have the money, but they'll be released tomorrow, like I've said previously around 4 times

[16-Oct-19 06:45 PM] TimoKL#1561
Mate, try to act a bit proffesional please, iv'e dealt with YOU, i bought a service from YOU and i'm getting something completely else that doesn't benefit me in any way

[16-Oct-19 06:46 PM] Periodics#4079
Like I said this isn't a one man operation, I'm working with other parties, and this time I've chosen the wrong hosting

[16-Oct-19 06:47 PM] TimoKL#1561
You paid them using PP?

[16-Oct-19 06:47 PM] Periodics#4079
Yes

[16-Oct-19 06:48 PM] TimoKL#1561
Can you send me a SS of the transaction?

[16-Oct-19 06:48 PM] Periodics#4079
Sure, hold on a moment

[16-Oct-19 06:52 PM] TimoKL#1561
Shouldn't take this long

[16-Oct-19 06:56 PM] Periodics#4079


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[16-Oct-19 06:57 PM] TimoKL#1561
Silverstar is an ISP lol

[16-Oct-19 06:57 PM] Periodics#4079
I'm down 20 euros working on the first campaign, because I was looking for long-term work, and now you're accusing me of scamming. it's not sad, but disappointing.

[16-Oct-19 06:58 PM] Periodics#4079
Tomorrow I'll be sending back the 50 euros you invested

[16-Oct-19 06:58 PM] TimoKL#1561
Nah i want my full 70 euro

[16-Oct-19 06:59 PM] Periodics#4079
You got views on the first campaign, what are you doing

[16-Oct-19 06:59 PM] TimoKL#1561
The first campaign was your own choice in trade for a affiliate link

[16-Oct-19 07:00 PM] Periodics#4079
And it failed so I loss money, but the work was done, the investment was made. You saw the extra views, so how can you be accusing me of scam

[16-Oct-19 07:01 PM] TimoKL#1561
Either sent me the 70 euro now or i'll open a scam report, i'm done with this

[16-Oct-19 07:01 PM] TimoKL#1561
The first investment was something you did on your own

[16-Oct-19 07:01 PM] TimoKL#1561
It was your choice

[16-Oct-19 07:01 PM] Periodics#4079
They're going to tell you to wait one fucking day, and before that you'll already have your money back

[16-Oct-19 07:02 PM] Periodics#4079
I put my trust and faith in you, it's sad to see the way it's being repayed

[16-Oct-19 07:03 PM] TimoKL#1561
Repayed? I got fake clicks lmfao

[16-Oct-19 07:03 PM] TimoKL#1561
I got a faked service

[16-Oct-19 07:03 PM] TimoKL#1561
Stop trying to guilt talk me

[16-Oct-19 07:04 PM] Periodics#4079
Just like you it's the first time I'm using this specific provider

[16-Oct-19 07:04 PM] TimoKL#1561
But how should that be my problem? I paid you for a service and got fake traffic instead

[16-Oct-19 07:06 PM] Periodics#4079
That's true I made the mistake, but I've told you twenty times as soon as the campaign finishes, which is tomorrow, you'll get your money back, but you keep insisting you want it now, when I fucking can't give it now

[16-Oct-19 07:08 PM] TimoKL#1561
Can I see that transaction over screenshare?

[16-Oct-19 07:11 PM] TimoKL#1561
While you press F5

[16-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Periodics#4079
Expect a paypal payment to the same address you sent them with, tomorrow. You'll be receiving 50 euros which is the cost for the second campaign, which obviously did not bring the results you've asked for. I won't be answering any more messages from you, as I'm loosing my patience and would really love to stay sane.

[16-Oct-19 07:14 PM] TimoKL#1561
Yeah I'll be opening a scam report in 30 mins

[16-Oct-19 07:14 PM] TimoKL#1561
See you on nulled

[16-Oct-19 07:15 PM] TimoKL#1561
I want my full money

[16-Oct-19 07:15 PM] TimoKL#1561
Not 50 euro

[16-Oct-19 07:16 PM] TimoKL#1561
I paid 80 euro including fees for your fake service