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  1. 2016-08-11 19:11:21.608000 #mod-chat @Healsluts Staff#5477: @Swords @S8D SMNDMN
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  3. Unfortunately, the moderation team has come to the conclusion that you are no longer a good fit for the mod team of the server. There have been repeated incidents involving your interactions with the community, and we no longer feel your moderation style is compatible with the one we and the community desire/need.
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  5. As such, we are formally requesting that you step down as moderators.
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  7. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y3tcDHI1a3iz1oY6ouY_QUNu8G8XjQsRbbWAqYaIEWg/edit?pref=2&pli=1
  8. 2016-08-11 19:14:58.300000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I have been one of the most active moderators who actively moderates. And for the good part of the day, I have been the only moderator as seen above where I had to continually ping you all as you worked behind the scene much like the last coup. Now if you are going to nomimate me to step down then I propose that @Krispy and @ThisOneGal go as well. They have failed to moderate or involve themselves with moderation. They do not involve themselves with events, nor are they active from week to week.
  9. 2016-08-11 19:15:33.916000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: \U0001f44d
  10. 2016-08-11 19:15:35.435000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: Noted
  11. 2016-08-11 19:16:29.516000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: > I have been one of the most active moderators who actively moderates
  12. That's part of the problem. We desire a more passive moderation team.
  13. 2016-08-11 19:16:49.088000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: We all agreed when we started to take a more passive stance.
  14. 2016-08-11 19:18:10.418000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: So when server issues are going down are we to not involve ourselves in discussion? Or when we are asked to ban someone we are to brush it aside because it is mod work?
  15. 2016-08-11 19:19:07.029000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I have always been around for the meatier discussions. I have not ignored them and posted elsewhere. And whenever a ban needed to be done, I did it.
  16. 2016-08-11 19:19:40.004000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: As a note, I'm here and reading. I'm allowing everyone to say what they need to say before I say anything else.
  17. 2016-08-11 19:20:29.772000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Also if the desire is for a more passive stance, then I can adjust and do so. I do not need to step down to accomplish that. I have always said that I am adaptable.
  18. 2016-08-11 19:20:49.565000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: At the end of the day activity is something we can revisit at a later time, we are straying from the current point - There has been far too many issues revolving around your act style of moderation which doesn't resonante with the initial ideals of the server. We have had far too many members leave the server in regards to the way you guys have approached the rules and our members in the community. It's a shame we have to come to this conclusion, but it has become apparent that we are all not on the same page in regards to the initial ideals of the perfect server we had in mind.
  19. 2016-08-11 19:22:03.028000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: No, if we are opening the floor about my moderation style then there needs to be a talk of all styles. And I am allowed to explain why I made the nominations I did.
  20. 2016-08-11 19:22:27.276000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: We also need to define what our ideals are
  21. 2016-08-11 19:22:37.860000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: What do you all mean when you say a passive stance?
  22. 2016-08-11 19:22:46.795000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: What is your vision for the perfect server?
  23. 2016-08-11 19:24:15.710000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: And if there were issues why was not approached?
  24. 2016-08-11 19:24:19.100000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: one where the community is more self policing, and where the mod team gently prods the userbase rather than antognizing them.
  25. 2016-08-11 19:25:12.321000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Is that all?
  26. 2016-08-11 19:25:50.081000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: If so I can adjust to that and if you all had allowed this to go to the meeting then we could have discussed those changes which are on the agenda.
  27. 2016-08-11 19:27:19.063000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Gal have you issued a warning (other than today) or done a ban thus far? Krispy, same to you? Why or why not?
  28. 2016-08-11 19:28:02.174000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: Yes I have issued warnings lol, I did one like 3 days ago to Paris. But this isnt about us.
  29. 2016-08-11 19:28:05.890000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: This is about you two.
  30. 2016-08-11 19:28:13.440000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: It's not about what other people have done, this is about your guys style of moderation.
  31. 2016-08-11 19:28:13.789000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: No it is about the mod team
  32. 2016-08-11 19:28:20.898000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: many warnings, few bans.
  33. Generally not needed. Userbase generally corrects itself if nudged in the right direction.
  34. 2016-08-11 19:28:26.271000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: And I have stated several times thus far I can adjust
  35. 2016-08-11 19:28:36.475000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: but the userbase doens't think you can
  36. 2016-08-11 19:28:36.475000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: EDIT:
  37. Before: but the userbase doens't think you can
  38. After: but the userbase doesn't think you can
  39. 2016-08-11 19:29:12.925000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Have they even given me the chance to?
  40. 2016-08-11 19:29:28.713000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: They most likely won't.
  41. 2016-08-11 19:29:47.268000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: and a good number can't, since they explcictly left because of you and anje
  42. 2016-08-11 19:30:00.713000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: They left because they were moderated.
  43. 2016-08-11 19:30:08.841000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: Poorly.
  44. 2016-08-11 19:30:12.067000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: by you and anje
  45. 2016-08-11 19:30:21.850000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I have ran all logs through here
  46. 2016-08-11 19:30:35.544000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: And most of the time I use my template for a warning message
  47. 2016-08-11 19:30:44.267000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Which was also approved by you all
  48. 2016-08-11 19:31:00.499000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: And every time I have disciplined, I have ran it past the whole team
  49. 2016-08-11 19:31:23.117000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Why is this only coming up now?
  50. 2016-08-11 19:31:46.483000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: Because of the discussion yesterday.
  51. 2016-08-11 19:31:50.707000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: because it has reached the point where it can no longer be ignored or resolved otherwise
  52. 2016-08-11 19:32:40.284000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: The discussion where we resolved to discuss issues at the moderation meeting where I stated even in discussion that I can pull back and let others do it
  53. 2016-08-11 19:33:14.129000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: 1)  Have other moderators handle discipline and do so under a mod account and with a more conversational approach.
  54. 2) Discuss with moderators about increasing their visibility as mods and as members, so long as it doesnt get in the way of IRL things.
  55. 3)  A possible revamping of the rules to be more lax on general chat type rooms - like abuse chat, general chat, random, but still have those important rules about basic decency enforced if the case arises.
  56. 4) We already have shonnie working on it now but a way on the website for people to give their annonymous input if they do not want to do so actively in discussion.
  57. 5) Discuss getting more mods around during the EU hours.
  58. 6) Discuss more cleearly defined roles.
  59. 7) Perhaps have an intro for mods so people know more about them on a personal level?
  60. 2016-08-11 19:33:16.038000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Our biggest issue is we have had this conversation before and you have both simply had the 'deal with it, this is how we operate' attitude, and now you're suddenly giving us the 'we can change' speech now that you're on the chopping block. That's a huge red flag.
  61. 2016-08-11 19:33:30.974000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I am not saying We
  62. 2016-08-11 19:34:28.689000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: And Shinya, I never stated that
  63. 2016-08-11 19:34:44.164000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: If anyone has when called an ass by community concerns it has been you.
  64. 2016-08-11 19:36:05.836000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: And when talking about the activity of the two moderators I spoke of earlier, never of them have ever stated they would change either
  65. 2016-08-11 19:36:10.568000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: It was one person that expressed their concerns about me which was a shill for Komache (Shyvana AKA DVa)
  66. 2016-08-11 19:36:33.983000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: If I remember they stated those were concerns others brought to them.
  67. 2016-08-11 19:36:49.940000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: So saying they are Komache's shill doesn't invalidate them
  68. 2016-08-11 19:37:38.516000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: And we wouldn't have gotten even this far if people had actually spoken to me
  69. 2016-08-11 19:37:49.188000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I am not Komache, I am rather reasonable.
  70. 2016-08-11 19:37:53.905000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: If we're being fair. Shyvana's complaints might as well have been just a joke.
  71. 2016-08-11 19:38:20.101000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: They might have, or they might not have.
  72. 2016-08-11 19:39:03.205000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: I don't think it's a good talking point. There was literally a part in there, going in on me alone for not being transparent.
  73. 2016-08-11 19:39:18.859000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: Almost all of it was baseless, or random.
  74. 2016-08-11 19:40:39.470000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: By the way, in the course of the day, I have acted in any of the ways I am accused of?
  75. 2016-08-11 19:40:57.194000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I was cordial, I passed the message writing off to Gal.
  76. 2016-08-11 19:40:39.470000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: EDIT:
  77. Before: By the way, in the course of the day, I have acted in any of the ways I am accused of?
  78. After: By the way, in the course of the day, have I acted in any of the ways I am accused of?
  79. 2016-08-11 19:41:59.357000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: And it is because of the discussion yesterday
  80. 2016-08-11 19:42:08.009000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I realized I was a little havey handed
  81. 2016-08-11 19:42:10.939000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Either way you're just deflecting the issue at hand. There's no denying there's been a large exodus of people lately due to the way you guys have handled your moderation capabilities. The way you guys moderate doesn't fit in with the initial ideals of the server we had in mind. You can point fingers back all you want, but we can't ignore the community outcry that's currently happening.
  82. 2016-08-11 19:42:16.976000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: ^
  83. 2016-08-11 19:42:20.051000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: ^
  84. 2016-08-11 19:42:22.164000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: ^
  85. 2016-08-11 19:43:41.223000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I am not deflecting
  86. 2016-08-11 19:43:57.797000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I am stating that I can act in ways outside of what you beleive has caused this exodus
  87. 2016-08-11 19:44:21.720000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: So thus you are painting me into a corner when I am not in one.
  88. 2016-08-11 19:44:49.214000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: The ideas we had in mind were decentralized powers
  89. 2016-08-11 19:45:33.851000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: I would also like to note, since I've left our activity in channels is waaaay down. I had 8 non-mods contacting me while I'm **on vacation**. All of them with similar reasons. The two mods currently in question are out of hand, and I need to do something about it as the owner of the server. Something wrong is obviously going on.
  90. 2016-08-11 19:47:04.621000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Yes it is down, but other than abuse chat yesterday. I have not really been moderating channels heavily, I am co-leader of a BDO guild and so I have it open on my second screen watching it pasively. If the mod tracker function were already here you all could see that.
  91. 2016-08-11 19:47:55.729000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Also it is the end of summer and beginning of fall where activity is bound to fall as well
  92. 2016-08-11 19:48:05.571000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: The Academy is also dead
  93. 2016-08-11 19:48:16.740000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: And I do not even moderate there.
  94. 2016-08-11 19:48:42.519000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I was just speaking to Moor this morning about that in fact.
  95. 2016-08-11 19:50:52.631000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: While I think this could have been addressed sooner, and better, I had no control over that. You know I've been out and gone for stuff. But I came back, and a very notable amount of users want you two gone. The rest of the mods have come to agree with them. You two have always been acting in a very different style from the rest of us, but it seems that it's become toxic, operating like that. You understand that I can't just ignore everyone else on the mod team, and the community.
  96. 2016-08-11 19:51:31.451000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I could issue an public apology for being havy handed and that from hence forth I could step back from a disciplinarian role unless absolutely necessary. It coudl be posted in the main subreddit and all they would need to come to me for is bot stuff and the like.
  97. 2016-08-11 19:52:25.160000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: If we need to make a separate role it could be Tech Admin or something.
  98. 2016-08-11 19:53:05.977000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: I am fine with swords being around as a bot wrangler; I don't have an issue with you as a person, I just think you're not a good fit for the moderation style we want.
  99. 2016-08-11 19:53:05.977000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: EDIT:
  100. Before: I am fine with swords being around as a bot wrangler; I don't have an issue with you as a person, I just think you're not a good fit for the moderation style we want.
  101. After: I am fine with swords being around as a bot wrangler (or whatever); I don't have an issue with you as a person, I just think you're not a good fit for the moderation style we want.
  102. 2016-08-11 19:54:06.061000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: I'm still not fully caught up on what **exactly** has been going down. But I'm sure all of you understand, that I have to do **something** here. The mod team is calling for it. The community is calling for it. At the end of the day, this really isn't my server. It's not ours. This is for the people who want to be here. Those five think that we can all better provide for this community with you two off of the moderation team.
  103. 2016-08-11 19:55:09.463000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Jac, I stated what could be done and it appears at least one of the five is okay with it.
  104. 2016-08-11 19:55:19.302000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I am not here to speak for Anjelita
  105. 2016-08-11 19:55:24.654000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: She can speak for herself.
  106. 2016-08-11 19:58:51.020000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: Personally, I think what needs to be done is that you and Angel need to step away for a while. Decide what you want to still be for this server, if you even want to stay here. I know none of these five will be okay remaining in the place of power that you two are. I really do hate doing this, you and Angel have been great people to me. But this is something for the server. Activity is down, people are leaving.
  107. 2016-08-11 19:59:39.267000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: So a forced sabbatical then?
  108. 2016-08-11 19:59:52.747000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Or furlough?
  109. 2016-08-11 20:02:05.988000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: I'd perfer it to not be forced. These five want to see a moderation team without you two. They can see how it works for a little bit. Personally, I think you and Angel should back up and look at all of this. Do you want to still be staff? Do you still want to be members?
  110. 2016-08-11 20:03:45.986000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: There is a Vacation Staff role now, which is a ninja Staff role that will drop us down to be in the member bvrackets without showing as on the team.
  111. 2016-08-11 20:04:10.971000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: In fact, I wanted to bring this up to you before as it is the role unanimously agreed on that Staff use when on vacation
  112. 2016-08-11 20:04:22.351000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: It is in the mod minutes from last week
  113. 2016-08-11 20:04:48.153000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160:
  114. 2016-08-11 20:07:06.878000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: We both know people won't be okay with that. We all know I don't have all the time in the world. I'm am now personally requesting you both to step down until further notice. They want to see the mod team without you. So does the public. Let them see if it goes better. If it does, I'm sure you're both more interested what's best for the community. It also allows you two to look at all of this, without the burden of moderation.
  115. 2016-08-11 20:07:17.194000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: However Jac after you make your decision on this, the issues I brought forth need to be discussed because that is what non-mod community members are telling me.
  116. 2016-08-11 20:07:55.299000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Did you read Angel's response?
  117. 2016-08-11 20:08:03.828000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: I'm reading it right now.
  118. 2016-08-11 20:08:07.794000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: Half way down.
  119. 2016-08-11 20:08:20.269000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: So you made your decision without talking to her about it...
  120. 2016-08-11 20:08:43.193000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I do not think is a decision to be rushed out.
  121. 2016-08-11 20:11:06.222000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: I don't have much of a choice. I was here to read and discuss this topic. This is Angel's response to it. I could make much more extreme and solid decisions here, but in return I'm just asking you two to step down for now.
  122. 2016-08-11 20:11:45.306000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: Like what exactly? Ban us as members?  Stepping down is one thing but to say we dont contribute to the community in any function at all? Is a long stretch Jac.
  123. 2016-08-11 20:12:16.433000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: the negative impact the two of you have vastly outweighs the positive one at this point
  124. 2016-08-11 20:12:34.107000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Who is going to correspond with Yami?
  125. 2016-08-11 20:12:34.182000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: So then you want to ban us as members?
  126. 2016-08-11 20:12:42.791000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: It has to be someone other than Shinya or Krispy
  127. 2016-08-11 20:13:37.980000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Wait, why other than me?
  128. 2016-08-11 20:14:35.612000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: Someone other than those two will do it then. You've both put in a lot of time and love into this server, and we all appreciate it. But your impact is seemingly becoming negative and toxic. People want to see what this looks like without you two on the team. They can see that then. You two would be normal members, until we decide you two aren't the problem, or if it's going better without you two.
  129. 2016-08-11 20:15:22.990000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: You said nothing about what I has stated in regards to the concerns I brought up earlier
  130. 2016-08-11 20:15:47.965000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I see you have made your decision but since that was brought up when i was an acting moderator it still deserves discussion
  131. 2016-08-11 20:18:31.217000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Also for full transparency were you all in a voice chat this whole time?
  132. 2016-08-11 20:18:32.394000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: In regards to Krispy and Dani? Their impact may be absent, but it's not toxic. Do I think you can both change? Maybe. I don't know. There's a lot of bad blood in this team now, more than there was before. In all honesty, I'd be surprised if 8 could operate without issues again after this. The idea of you being like a tech staff? That can be discussed, but not now. My decision is final right now. Mostly because I simply don't have the time to keep doing this. I need to be at work in less than an hour.
  133. 2016-08-11 20:19:08.273000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: So you are rushing this out and not discussing it fully.
  134. 2016-08-11 20:19:59.322000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Um since I work with Shonnie for Persephone stuff, i still likely need acces to affiliate chat
  135. 2016-08-11 20:21:51.801000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: See it as you like. I see it as over half the team asking you to step down, and then the community asking for the same. Your impact is toxic right now. I can't walk away from this without making a decision. But I admit I don't have the proper time to handel this in full right now. Hence why your stepping down is temporary for the moment.
  136. 2016-08-11 20:23:59.105000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: I asked a question that no one has decided to respond to.
  137. 2016-08-11 20:24:06.063000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: Are you looking to ban us as members.
  138. 2016-08-11 20:25:45.482000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: No.
  139. 2016-08-11 20:26:04.820000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Hell no.
  140. 2016-08-11 20:26:20.030000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: "You two would be normal members, until we decide you two aren't the problem, or if it's going better without you two."
  141. 2016-08-11 20:26:26.040000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: I thought that covered it.
  142. 2016-08-11 20:26:27.658000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: So no.
  143. 2016-08-11 20:26:50.066000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: So if you decide we are a problem even if we have not done anything ban worthy then we are banned
  144. 2016-08-11 20:26:59.225000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: I just said no.
  145. 2016-08-11 20:27:01.532000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: No.
  146. 2016-08-11 20:27:06.043000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: "No."
  147. 2016-08-11 20:27:09.088000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: Shinya - Today at 4:25 PM
  148. No.
  149. 2016-08-11 20:27:14.138000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: That is how your statement reads
  150. 2016-08-11 20:27:19.956000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: I just said otherwise.
  151. 2016-08-11 20:27:32.677000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: No for now is what you are saying
  152. 2016-08-11 20:28:46.142000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: @S8D SMNDMN unless you have soemthing else to say, they should be pulling our roles here soon.
  153. 2016-08-11 20:28:55.477000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: "Until we decide you two aren't the problem" refers to your staff position not as members
  154. 2016-08-11 20:29:40.599000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: It is applicable to both or else why is normal members included in the statemnet?
  155. 2016-08-11 20:29:51.105000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: There was a part in the original document that said as members as well.  I see it is no longer there.
  156. 2016-08-11 20:31:37.454000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: And no one has any response to anything said in my response.
  157. 2016-08-11 20:32:24.792000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: There was nothing in regards to that in the original statement. I just looked through the edit history and nothing like that was present.
  158. 2016-08-11 20:33:25.651000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: What was the point in doing a response?  Your instant decisions regardless of my input or ability to defend myself leads me to believe that this was a futile exercise to begin with.  If you had any care about it, a decision would not have been made without it.  But it appears that it really does not matter what is said in defence.
  159. 2016-08-11 20:35:30.841000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: Also quick question, how likely is this to actually happen:
  160.  
  161. "I will allow no personal attacks from any parties to happen, or any mod/personal information to be made public."
  162.  
  163. When we know moderators have been airing grievances they have with other moderators to the community insteaad of putting in an effort to fix the problem.
  164. 2016-08-11 20:35:43.742000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: But yet again, no response.
  165. 2016-08-11 20:36:48.502000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Also there was never a response to my question, for full transparency, were you all in a voice chat the whole time?
  166. 2016-08-11 20:37:25.983000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: @Swords No we haven't been
  167. 2016-08-11 20:37:57.017000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: Were you in discussions this whole time.
  168. 2016-08-11 20:38:52.381000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Also is anyone going to respond to Angel's points. If necessary we can make a new romm to discuss all this so you can pull roles.
  169. 2016-08-11 20:39:09.507000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: Yeah I dont mind.  I would like answers though.
  170. 2016-08-11 20:38:52.381000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: EDIT:
  171. Before: Also is anyone going to respond to Angel's points. If necessary we can make a new romm to discuss all this so you can pull roles.
  172. After: Also is anyone going to respond to Angel's points. If necessary we can make a new room to discuss all this so you can pull roles.
  173. 2016-08-11 20:39:36.691000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: Throughought the past day some of us have talked to eachother in DM's and in group chats, we weren't all been in discussions since posting the original document
  174. 2016-08-11 20:40:04.738000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: And instead of bringing it to discussion with us, this was your decision.
  175. 2016-08-11 20:40:22.833000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: Well either way, I would still like a respones to my inquiries and concerns.
  176. 2016-08-11 20:41:14.529000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: @ThisOneGal or @Jac make a room so this dicussion can continue privately so that points can be addressed and not put in the public eye.
  177. 2016-08-11 20:41:42.283000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: jac has to do it
  178. 2016-08-11 20:41:53.248000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: I will also need access to the bot terminal and bot stuff rooms
  179. 2016-08-11 20:42:32.696000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: So that I can do commands and work on Perse if needed outside of the public sphere
  180. 2016-08-11 20:42:46.471000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Jac can't. He's heading to work i believe
  181. 2016-08-11 20:43:51.293000 #mod-chat @Swordsman18#3960: Well then it continues here then. So is anyone going to address the points made in Angel's response since out of the two of us she has had the least chance defend herself.
  182. 2016-08-11 20:45:26.560000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: #private-chat you should have access to that
  183. 2016-08-11 20:45:41.898000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: If you want to copy and paste the questions from here
  184. 2016-08-11 20:46:04.011000 #mod-chat @Anjelita [No_Lupine]#3160: The questions are in a document  - my response. You all have it.  It is all there.
  185. 2016-08-11 21:48:12.112000 #mod-chat @Jac#9484: @Staff We need to have a talk tomorrow. I work at 5PM EST, so it needs to be before them.
  186. 2016-08-11 21:48:55.818000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: ye
  187. 2016-08-11 21:49:59.660000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: im most liekly free from noon onwards
  188. 2016-08-11 21:50:19.741000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: actually 1pm onwards
  189. 2016-08-11 21:50:23.515000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: i gotta watch my animu
  190. 2016-08-11 21:56:40.316000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: a talk?
  191. 2016-08-11 22:01:28.069000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: yes
  192. 2016-08-11 22:01:34.489000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: for plans for future
  193. 2016-08-11 22:01:36.630000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: stuff like that
  194. 2016-08-11 22:17:52.398000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: @abbers #porn-chat was a good idea, it's the 4th most active channel now
  195. 2016-08-11 22:18:14.447000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: ye
  196. 2016-08-11 22:18:17.250000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: \U0001f44d
  197. 2016-08-11 22:18:42.604000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: it has over 10x the activity of porn ironically
  198. 2016-08-11 22:18:48.864000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Wait really
  199. 2016-08-11 22:18:52.335000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: yeah
  200. 2016-08-11 22:18:53.103000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: FUCK YEAH
  201. 2016-08-11 22:18:58.065000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: 3k messages vs 300
  202. 2016-08-11 22:19:00.085000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: today
  203. 2016-08-11 22:19:03.818000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: *cheers motherfucker*
  204. 2016-08-11 22:22:57.500000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: >maybe because all active porn members went to porn chat?
  205. 2016-08-11 22:23:03.334000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: Still i like the channel
  206. 2016-08-11 22:23:05.246000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: its healthy
  207. 2016-08-11 22:23:08.299000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: good job Abs <3
  208. 2016-08-11 22:30:12.825000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: not gonna lie feels like a huge weight has been lifted
  209. 2016-08-11 22:30:22.603000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: ^
  210. 2016-08-11 22:30:51.200000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: ^
  211. 2016-08-11 22:31:15.252000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: we can actually discuss stuff again
  212. 2016-08-11 22:33:40.544000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Just us 5
  213. 2016-08-11 22:34:26.555000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: @Krispy well yeah. People were chatting in there cause they were becoming porny friends
  214. 2016-08-11 22:34:33.750000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Others complained
  215. 2016-08-11 22:34:35.825000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: So like
  216. 2016-08-11 22:34:36.999000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Fuck
  217. 2016-08-11 22:43:33.878000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: Ye I know
  218. 2016-08-11 22:43:37.241000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: *hugs*
  219. 2016-08-11 22:43:40.569000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: I like it
  220. 2016-08-11 22:44:07.800000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: *hugs*
  221. 2016-08-11 22:45:14.097000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy4RZ/4503fd8607.png
  222. 2016-08-11 22:45:14.097000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy4RZ/4503fd8607.png
  223. 2016-08-11 22:45:16.111000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: the dumbest thing
  224. 2016-08-11 22:45:18.179000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: IVe ever heard
  225. 2016-08-11 22:45:19.737000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: my head hurts
  226. 2016-08-11 22:45:36.635000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: Dumbest thing I've heard all day and we talked to swords for 2 hours
  227. 2016-08-11 22:45:41.154000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: lmfao
  228. 2016-08-11 22:45:55.970000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy4Vx/121757fe50.png
  229. 2016-08-11 22:45:55.970000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy4Vx/121757fe50.png
  230. 2016-08-11 22:45:58.444000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: can we just ban komache
  231. 2016-08-11 22:46:08.306000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940:
  232. 2016-08-11 22:46:11.013000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: that explains it
  233. 2016-08-11 22:46:18.997000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: yup
  234. 2016-08-11 22:46:33.011000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: swords and anje asked the few of their friends to come create drama in discussion
  235. 2016-08-11 22:46:37.697000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: nobody really even know why theyre argueing
  236. 2016-08-11 22:46:47.473000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: meh
  237. 2016-08-11 22:46:50.408000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: let them yell at eachother
  238. 2016-08-11 22:46:58.085000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy4Zt/fc3a6bb754.png
  239. 2016-08-11 22:46:58.085000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy4Zt/fc3a6bb754.png
  240. 2016-08-11 22:46:59.912000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: @Staff
  241. 2016-08-11 22:47:01.521000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: can we ban
  242. 2016-08-11 22:47:09.391000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: let them circle jerk
  243. 2016-08-11 22:47:34.520000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: if they want to blow eachother over how great they think komache is then it shows how immature the people who don't like the decision are
  244. 2016-08-11 22:50:31.995000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: who would've thought the people they have close ties with komache were asked to step down
  245. 2016-08-11 22:50:32.932000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: ¯\_(\u30c4)_/¯
  246. 2016-08-11 22:54:14.422000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: Here's some ideas I've been thinking of and plan on bringing up the next time we talk, if anyone wants to look over them and give some input
  247. 2016-08-11 22:54:16.561000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: 1 EU mod?
  248. Take applications
  249. Staff pick their top choices based on applications
  250. Bring to community, relevent part of mod applications and our thoughts on why staff like them, get feedback from community
  251. Make final decision based on community feedback.
  252. ---
  253.  
  254. trash/dump channel, is automatically cleared every 5 minutes or so. For dumping commands and images you want to share with people from another channel without clogging it.
  255. ----
  256. Rules revamp. Make what is allowed in every channel clearer. Simpler rules for new users to understand. Either remove rule overlap or stop giving infractions for one thing that breaks multiple rules.
  257. ----
  258. Possibly looking into combining/pruning some of the more abandoned channels? Maybe wait to see if what activity does with the mod changes first (eg if the rp people come back)
  259. 2016-08-11 22:55:25.575000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: I do like the idea of handling an EU mod that way.
  260. 2016-08-11 22:55:43.394000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Rules revamp is needed, it's entirely too long currently.
  261. 2016-08-11 22:56:05.198000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy5AV/72166055a8.png
  262. 2016-08-11 22:56:05.198000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy5AV/72166055a8.png
  263. 2016-08-11 22:56:09.820000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Issuing komache an official warning
  264. 2016-08-11 22:58:24.007000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: He has me blocked
  265. 2016-08-11 22:58:49.091000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: warning with mod account
  266. 2016-08-11 22:58:50.425000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy5Lo/21589a3969.png
  267. 2016-08-11 22:58:50.425000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy5Lo/21589a3969.png
  268. 2016-08-11 22:58:54.718000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Timing out Komache for 15 minutes
  269. 2016-08-11 22:58:58.265000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: mmm :/
  270. 2016-08-11 22:59:07.387000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Can I get some support to fucking ban him
  271. 2016-08-11 22:58:49.091000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: EDIT:
  272. Before: warning with mod account
  273. After: issue hte warning with the mod account
  274. 2016-08-11 22:59:10.545000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Im getting actually pissed
  275. 2016-08-11 22:59:25.308000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: I'm trying to keep up with discussion, cant be assed on logging into mod account
  276. 2016-08-11 23:00:03.852000 #mod-chat @Healsluts Staff#5477: give message
  277. 2016-08-11 23:00:46.724000 #mod-chat @Healsluts Staff#5477: ```
  278. You're being a prick. This is an official warning.
  279.  
  280. http://puu.sh/qy5AV/72166055a8.png
  281. http://puu.sh/qy5Lo/21589a3969.png
  282. ```
  283. 2016-08-11 23:00:49.871000 #mod-chat @Healsluts Staff#5477: yea/nay?
  284. 2016-08-11 23:02:17.864000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: yea
  285. 2016-08-11 23:02:20.566000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Thanks
  286. 2016-08-11 23:04:03.327000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: can you @ him?
  287. 2016-08-11 23:04:09.244000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Well uh
  288. 2016-08-11 23:04:11.381000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: can;t find him with hte account
  289. 2016-08-11 23:04:14.988000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Please be more neutral
  290. 2016-08-11 23:04:22.888000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Than "you are a prick"
  291. 2016-08-11 23:05:41.085000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: I need to get away from this for a bit
  292. 2016-08-11 23:05:46.310000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: Discussion is fucking me right now
  293. 2016-08-11 23:05:49.940000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: I'll be around tomorrow
  294. 2016-08-11 23:05:58.766000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: ping me if I'm needed
  295. 2016-08-11 23:06:41.596000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: kk
  296. 2016-08-11 23:08:12.361000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Komache posting private conversations between two parties .. Privvy for another warning?
  297. 2016-08-11 23:08:19.722000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Well, FirstAidKit did on his behalf.
  298. 2016-08-11 23:09:31.058000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: @\u27a1 Komache \u2b05
  299. 2016-08-11 23:09:52.923000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: so we can actually message him
  300. 2016-08-11 23:11:14.819000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: http://puu.sh/qy6wI/8e4896d63d.jpg
  301. 2016-08-11 23:11:14.819000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: http://puu.sh/qy6wI/8e4896d63d.jpg
  302. 2016-08-11 23:11:35.655000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Thanks gal
  303. 2016-08-11 23:15:31.423000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: lol oh boy theres anje playing the innocence card
  304. 2016-08-11 23:28:25.246000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Well discussion has calmed down. I need a drink.
  305. 2016-08-11 23:29:14.855000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: @DrifterX do you still have the keys? I cant access mee6 backend
  306. 2016-08-11 23:29:32.539000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: Try now
  307. 2016-08-11 23:29:37.421000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: thanks babe
  308. 2016-08-11 23:29:41.467000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: \U0001f44d
  309. 2016-08-11 23:34:01.981000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: Stats for the last 24 hours:
  310. nsfw-general 10749 nessages
  311. random 7588
  312. abuse-chat 5231
  313. porn-chat 3139
  314. discussion 1277
  315. music 560
  316. overwatch 408
  317. -----------
  318. Total of ~30,000
  319. ------------
  320. The rest add up to a couple thousand or so. Also the bot didn't have access to the extreme channels for any of this because I'm a moron
  321. 2016-08-11 23:34:49.674000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: xD
  322. 2016-08-11 23:48:36.483000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Anyway, Swords want to turn this into a political event so I think we need to make a statement about this in the next few days.
  323. 2016-08-11 23:48:55.163000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy8Fb/62896bca0a.png
  324. 2016-08-11 23:48:55.163000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: http://puu.sh/qy8Fb/62896bca0a.png
  325. 2016-08-11 23:49:00.920000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Especially with his blatant lying
  326. 2016-08-11 23:49:22.168000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: Lets plan on writing up a full statement tomorrow when we talk
  327. 2016-08-11 23:49:31.432000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: agreed
  328. 2016-08-11 23:49:42.623000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: I was very hesitant about making the reasoning public
  329. 2016-08-11 23:49:49.221000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: But it seems Anje and Swords will not let this go.
  330. 2016-08-11 23:50:07.493000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Especially when they have their circle of friends brigading dicussion.
  331. 2016-08-11 23:50:07.493000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: EDIT:
  332. Before: Especially when they have their circle of friends brigading dicussion.
  333. After: Especially when they have their circle of friends brigading discussion.
  334. 2016-08-11 23:51:56.567000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: yeah
  335. 2016-08-11 23:52:09.248000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: We were fine with keeping our reasons private
  336. 2016-08-11 23:52:17.522000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: but if they want to start shit in public
  337. 2016-08-11 23:53:14.131000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Yup
  338. 2016-08-11 23:53:46.790000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: my officla statement
  339. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTlVRUkwYRI
  340. 2016-08-11 23:54:05.765000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: LOL
  341. 2016-08-11 23:54:17.396000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: this is my response ot all mod related drama
  342. 2016-08-11 23:54:56.922000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: I wanna put that in discussion.
  343. 2016-08-11 23:54:57.920000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: So badly.
  344. 2016-08-11 23:55:18.179000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: not sure if im crashing from 5 cups of coffee
  345. 2016-08-11 23:55:26.880000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: or if this discussion is giving me stomach cancer
  346. 2016-08-11 23:55:41.264000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: both for me
  347. 2016-08-11 23:55:44.907000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: same
  348. 2016-08-11 23:55:49.508000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: I want to sleep
  349. 2016-08-11 23:55:55.969000 #mod-chat @DrifterX#7940: but I'm too anxious right now
  350. 2016-08-11 23:56:10.347000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: its just the chat
  351. 2016-08-11 23:56:12.679000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: honestly
  352. 2016-08-11 23:56:16.082000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: its not even an issue
  353. 2016-08-11 23:56:17.821000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: dont fret over it
  354. 2016-08-11 23:56:29.029000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: it's literally just 5-6 of swords and anje's friends trying to stir drama
  355. 2016-08-11 23:56:32.574000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: that's literally all it is
  356. 2016-08-11 23:56:33.051000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: lol
  357. 2016-08-12 00:13:55.029000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Should I... comment?
  358. 2016-08-12 00:14:01.059000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: ¯\_(\u30c4)_/¯
  359. 2016-08-12 00:14:07.027000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Ive stepped away from it
  360. 2016-08-12 00:14:09.024000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: I don't know how productive it'll be
  361. 2016-08-12 00:14:12.452000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: probably none
  362. 2016-08-12 00:14:19.303000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: *sigh*
  363. 2016-08-12 00:14:19.499000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: it's just a few people circlejerking
  364. 2016-08-12 00:15:23.828000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: I honestly really thought Ange did a lot of work. And appreciated that. If they were both willing to step back from interacting from members I woulda been fine with that
  365. 2016-08-12 00:15:40.537000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW-x4Df-ed0
  366. 2016-08-12 00:15:40.537000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW-x4Df-ed0
  367. 2016-08-12 00:55:21.166000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: @abbers you should probably stop
  368. 2016-08-12 00:55:29.038000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: because youre pissing me off with what youre saying down there
  369. 2016-08-12 00:55:33.537000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: and Im probably not the only one
  370. 2016-08-12 00:55:43.409000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: at this point she's got logs, and if I don't, then *poof*
  371. 2016-08-12 00:56:04.244000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Stand by your fucking decision
  372. 2016-08-12 00:59:27.939000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: I don't even know what to say without feeling some level of intimidation either from them, or from yall because I told em. tbh part of being neutral is being hated by all sides tbh. ultimately if everyone is yelling at me, then what wins out? the direction I'm scared off more from? or what I believe in?
  373. 2016-08-12 01:01:35.905000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: just take a break, abby
  374. 2016-08-12 01:01:47.462000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: I'm not angry or upset. just sad
  375. 2016-08-12 01:01:54.070000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: sad is bad
  376. 2016-08-12 01:01:57.089000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: take a break
  377. 2016-08-12 01:02:04.150000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: 'wanting to get a peaceful resolution' there's your problem, abby.
  378. 2016-08-12 01:02:10.074000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: That only works in Disney movies.
  379. 2016-08-12 01:02:54.139000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: There is no way in hell this ends favorably for either side. All we can do is stick by our guns, wether the storm, and move forward. You can't have both sides happy.
  380. 2016-08-12 01:09:08.905000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Keep stirring the pot, abby.
  381. 2016-08-12 01:09:36.078000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: You always do this when there's an issue.
  382. 2016-08-12 01:10:09.716000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: You commit to one side, it happens, and then you can't handle the public outlash so you go into the discussion and try to win them over by saying "oh I wasn't 100% on board with the actions".
  383. 2016-08-12 01:10:17.787000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: That's so fucked up.
  384. 2016-08-12 01:10:24.634000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: It makes me question your intent of even being a mod.
  385. 2016-08-12 01:10:31.194000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: > is scared to click mod chat and/or discussion
  386. 2016-08-12 01:11:09.845000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: I said I didn't wanna. I wanted to talk. I wanted it to happen at night in mod chat.
  387. 2016-08-12 01:11:25.201000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: Shin. please. we have to admit it was a _really_ rushed event.
  388. 2016-08-12 01:11:32.216000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: both sides have positives _and_ negatives
  389. 2016-08-12 01:11:56.717000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Doesn't make it any less right.
  390. 2016-08-12 01:12:16.192000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: doesn't make what we did right either. and it doesn't make us wrong.
  391. 2016-08-12 01:12:19.960000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: You're clammoring to the 5-6 people there that are butthurt because Swords and Anje were their friends.
  392. 2016-08-12 01:12:23.036000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: I'm trying to float in the grey
  393. 2016-08-12 01:12:28 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: and its pissing off everyone
  394. 2016-08-12 01:12:40.019000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: It makes us right because we're acting in the better nature of the server.
  395. 2016-08-12 01:13:42.948000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: we are
  396. 2016-08-12 01:13:51.357000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: we acted in the betterment for the server
  397. 2016-08-12 01:14:25.593000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: but nature of in which we acted, the speed, the lack of taking a day/extensive discussion. the not exploring of other options.
  398. 2016-08-12 01:14:46.679000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: we might not _agree_ with their points, but they have points.
  399. 2016-08-12 01:14:55.555000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: _hugs_
  400. 2016-08-12 01:15:01.732000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: go do something else, abby
  401. 2016-08-12 01:15:27.246000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: just... do what krispy and I are doing at staying the fuck away from the drama today
  402. 2016-08-12 01:15:27.246000 #mod-chat @ThisOneGal#4468: EDIT:
  403. Before: just... do what krispy and I are doing at staying the fuck away from the drama today
  404. After: just... do what krispy and I are doing and staying the fuck away from the drama today
  405. 2016-08-12 01:15:59.772000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: I was going to say we can't be silent on it - But Drifter said something earlier that I forgot.
  406. 2016-08-12 01:16:03.786000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: "Let them circlejerk."
  407. 2016-08-12 01:16:17.212000 #mod-chat @Krispy#3507: ^
  408. 2016-08-12 01:16:25.962000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: It's the same 5-6 people in their jerking eachother off trying to make themselves feel better about their removal. Fuck them.
  409. 2016-08-12 01:16:51.814000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: And you know what
  410. 2016-08-12 01:17:00.693000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Can we kick persephone?
  411. 2016-08-12 01:17:03.916000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: I bet Swords is reading this
  412. 2016-08-12 01:17:04.963000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: right now
  413. 2016-08-12 01:17:39.851000 #mod-chat @abbers#3359: that's uh. possible
  414. 2016-08-12 01:17:41.785000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: Peresphone logs everything that's said.
  415. 2016-08-12 01:17:46.182000 #mod-chat @Shinya#1756: I guaran fucking tee it.
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