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  1. [2010-08-31 21:01:08] <Laxsnor> Hello Everyone, welcome to the United States Workers Party Presidential Debate for September.
  2. [2010-08-31 21:01:25] <Laxsnor> I am Laxsnor, one of the moderators of the debate. Joining me is Fionia, Party President of the USWP.
  3. [2010-08-31 21:01:58] * |NX| applauds
  4. [2010-08-31 21:02:38] <Fionia> ok
  5. [2010-08-31 21:02:45] <Laxsnor> The format is the same as last time, I ask a question and each candidate responds
  6. [2010-08-31 21:03:12] <Laxsnor> and then there will be short debate time
  7. [2010-08-31 21:03:32] <Laxsnor> If you have a question, PM myself or Fionia
  8. [2010-08-31 21:03:42] <Fionia> after we go through our questions, there will be time for audiennce questions
  9. [2010-08-31 21:03:54] <Fionia> so PM us during the debate, and we'll ask at the end
  10. [2010-08-31 21:04:41] <Laxsnor> So, any immediate questions from the candidates before we get started?
  11. [2010-08-31 21:04:47] <Cromstar> None here
  12. [2010-08-31 21:05:43] <Fionia> Laxsnor: give SB ops
  13. [2010-08-31 21:05:48] <|NX|> no questions
  14. [2010-08-31 21:05:52] <Laxsnor> .access add HuggledBags|SkittlePowah 5
  15. [2010-08-31 21:06:01] <Fionia> now
  16. [2010-08-31 21:06:08] =-= Mode #uswp-debates +o HuggledBags|SkittlePowah by Laxsnor
  17. [2010-08-31 21:06:08] <HuggledBags|SkittlePowah> \o/
  18. [2010-08-31 21:06:12] <Fionia> we asked all the candidates to prepare opening statements
  19. [2010-08-31 21:06:39] =-= HuggledBags|SkittlePowah is now known as SB
  20. [2010-08-31 21:06:43] <Fionia> so, CivilAnarchy, your opening statement
  21. [2010-08-31 21:06:55] <CivilAnarchy> As an American, I’ve had a hand a multitude of different aspects of the American political sphere. I have extensive knowledge in factors of this game that greatly affect our current situation in the world. I pride my work in helping boost recruitment and retention for the country, operating a myriad of programs both meant to increase retention and attract new
  22. [2010-08-31 21:07:02] <CivilAnarchy> players to the game, and, these two factors are in the greatest need of attention. Overall, I’m an incredibly active player, with a balanced political career filled with experience of almost everything the USA has to offer.
  23. [2010-08-31 21:07:06] <CivilAnarchy> Fin.
  24. [2010-08-31 21:07:17] <Laxsnor> Cromstar, you're next
  25. [2010-08-31 21:07:35] <Cromstar> Ladies and gents of the USWP, I'm Cromstar, a long-time politician and currently longest-serving Congressman in the history of the eUSA. I'm running for POTUS this month with Kazeal, an old friend of mine, because I've been around a long time and seen the eUS change from its first days in V1 all the way to the V2 it is today.
  26. [2010-08-31 21:07:43] <Cromstar> I'm not going to say too much more, since I don't feel the need to bore you with looong posts when a few words'll do the job.
  27. [2010-08-31 21:07:48] <Cromstar> Done
  28. [2010-08-31 21:08:09] <Fionia> Krems, you're up
  29. [2010-08-31 21:08:17] <Krems> I'm running again. You've seen what I can do while working 3 jobs this month. Expect to see a lot more from me when my life becomes boring again. My package us huge. Vote Krems
  30. [2010-08-31 21:08:32] <Krems> fin
  31. [2010-08-31 21:08:32] <Fionia> And finally, |NX|
  32. [2010-08-31 21:08:35] <|NX|> Hey guys, Necros Xiaoban here. I just want to say my packages IS huge.
  33. [2010-08-31 21:08:37] <|NX|> fin
  34. [2010-08-31 21:08:42] <Fionia> 9_9
  35. [2010-08-31 21:08:45] <Laxsnor> mmk
  36. [2010-08-31 21:09:06] <Krems> are you a serious candidate |NX|?
  37. [2010-08-31 21:09:11] <|NX|> Absolutely
  38. [2010-08-31 21:09:11] <Krems> Serious question
  39. [2010-08-31 21:09:14] <Krems> k
  40. [2010-08-31 21:09:21] <SB> Fair warning, if you guys bore me, I've been allowed to abuse you
  41. [2010-08-31 21:09:23] <SB> so
  42. [2010-08-31 21:09:25] <SB> be interesting
  43. [2010-08-31 21:09:38] <Laxsnor> How are you going to make sure the citizens are aware of what is going on?
  44. [2010-08-31 21:09:40] <Krems> >debate
  45. [2010-08-31 21:09:44] <Krems> >interesting
  46. [2010-08-31 21:09:45] <Laxsnor> Cromstar, you're up
  47. [2010-08-31 21:11:19] <Cromstar> The usual methods will be followed, duh. We will have regular (read: daily) White House Press Releases published, as well as frequent articles by both myself and top cabinet members.
  48. [2010-08-31 21:11:19] <Cromstar> In addition to these normally-pursued methods, I plan to experiment with updates posted directly on eUS forum, and to create a position within the Department of the Interior which will be responsible for spreading these updates to the major active party forums. This is a simple program, but one that has been highly effective when established by the UIP, for example.
  49. [2010-08-31 21:11:19] <Cromstar> Fini
  50. [2010-08-31 21:11:20] <Laxsnor> Krems, you're up
  51. [2010-08-31 21:11:22] <Krems> Publish articles.
  52. [2010-08-31 21:11:47] <Laxsnor> good response... |NX|, you're up
  53. [2010-08-31 21:12:13] <|NX|> One of the single greatest focuses of my presidency will be organizing information from my cabinet secretaries, and communicating it to the people, constantly. I've maintained a high level of communication thus far into the campaign, and will extend that into my administration.
  54. [2010-08-31 21:12:14] <|NX|> I'll also make myself publicly available twice weekly for Q&A sessions. Anything not absolutely classified is fair game.
  55. [2010-08-31 21:12:15] <|NX|> fin
  56. [2010-08-31 21:12:30] <Laxsnor> CivilAnarchy
  57. [2010-08-31 21:12:39] <CivilAnarchy> Through the combined use of Presidential Updates through my own newspaper, and the use of the WHPR, and the Department of Media, I believe that the citizenry of the eUnited States will be adequately informed of whats going on in the country. Transparency of government is a must, if we wish to have a citizenry that’s interested in the government, and by proxy,
  58. [2010-08-31 21:12:50] <CivilAnarchy> get involved with that government. The welcoming message can also be used for the purpose of transparency, although with a lower efficiency than regular articles.
  59. [2010-08-31 21:12:52] <CivilAnarchy> fin.
  60. [2010-08-31 21:13:06] <Laxsnor> Alright, feel free to go at each other
  61. [2010-08-31 21:13:36] <Fionia> not a very controversial question
  62. [2010-08-31 21:13:47] <Fionia> let's move on
  63. [2010-08-31 21:13:52] <Krems> they get better?
  64. [2010-08-31 21:14:00] <Fionia> ...
  65. [2010-08-31 21:14:13] <Laxsnor> What do you see as the priority regions for your foreign policy to focus on this month
  66. [2010-08-31 21:14:53] <Laxsnor> KittehBot
  67. [2010-08-31 21:15:04] <Laxsnor> er
  68. [2010-08-31 21:15:04] <Laxsnor> Krems
  69. [2010-08-31 21:15:04] <Cromstar> lol
  70. [2010-08-31 21:15:13] <Krems> We need to develop stronger ties with europe. The key to the new war module is having fighters in different time zones
  71. [2010-08-31 21:15:40] <Krems> furthermore, we need to work with out nations in our time zone
  72. [2010-08-31 21:15:48] <Krems> unionize so to speak
  73. [2010-08-31 21:16:08] <Laxsnor> Finished?
  74. [2010-08-31 21:16:12] <Krems> There are interesting developments in SA right now, which I'm working on making to our advantage
  75. [2010-08-31 21:16:22] <Krems> finished
  76. [2010-08-31 21:16:22] <SB> If we unionize, can I get dental?
  77. [2010-08-31 21:16:22] <Krems> ofc
  78. [2010-08-31 21:16:30] <SB> sweet deal
  79. [2010-08-31 21:16:38] <Laxsnor> Thanks ^.^ Please say when you're finished so I don't mistakenly cut you off
  80. [2010-08-31 21:16:46] <Laxsnor> Sorry for that, Krems.
  81. [2010-08-31 21:16:52] <Laxsnor> |NX|, you're up
  82. [2010-08-31 21:17:20] <|NX|> There is obviously a strong focus on Western Alaska right now, and that has been an existing state of affairs since Choc punched FER on the nose. I don't expect that to disappear instantly. I want to secure that, and then I really, really, really want to turn the focus to South America.
  83. [2010-08-31 21:17:21] <|NX|> South America would make great bros for us, and are the gateway to South Africa, currently the most inaccessible region in the world for us. If we can establish a South American foothold, or even just make friends, not only do we open up South Africa, but Australia as well.
  84. [2010-08-31 21:17:21] <|NX|> fin
  85. [2010-08-31 21:17:42] =-= Fionia has changed the topic to ``USWP POTUS Debate. Starts August 31, 2010 18:00 eRepublik Time. || Audience questions will be taken at the end, PM to get your question asked.''
  86. [2010-08-31 21:17:57] <Laxsnor> CivilAnarchy
  87. [2010-08-31 21:17:58] <CivilAnarchy> Definitely the situation going on within Asia, both through the Russian Conflicts and the India-Serbia Conflict. In addition to this, we need to begin focusing on fixing relations with countries in South America and Europe that we've previously left unattended. In my opinion, the best way of doing this is through a strong Ambassador program, to utilize commun
  88. [2010-08-31 21:18:10] <CivilAnarchy> ication and show the countries that we'll go out of our way to learn about their current situations in the eWorld. And of course theres the issues of ATO in South Africa and Australia, which also deserve attention, due to their unfortunate situations.
  89. [2010-08-31 21:18:11] <CivilAnarchy> Fin.
  90. [2010-08-31 21:18:42] <Laxsnor> Cromstar
  91. [2010-08-31 21:19:29] <Cromstar> Frankly, there's no single priority we can afford to have. That's the sort of thinking that put us in the position choc left us by attacking FER. If we want to be successful, we should make better use of the Ambassador program, as well as the media to promote ourselves to all our allies as well as nations we aren't directly allied with.
  92. [2010-08-31 21:20:16] <Fionia> ok
  93. [2010-08-31 21:20:18] <Laxsnor> Fin?
  94. [2010-08-31 21:20:22] <Fionia> anything to say to each other?
  95. [2010-08-31 21:20:29] <Cromstar> not done dammit
  96. [2010-08-31 21:20:31] <Cromstar> :P
  97. [2010-08-31 21:20:32] <Laxsnor> sorry
  98. [2010-08-31 21:20:34] <Fionia> oh
  99. [2010-08-31 21:20:38] * SB dams Cromstar's mouth
  100. [2010-08-31 21:20:50] <SB> problem:solved
  101. [2010-08-31 21:20:51] * |NX| tickles Cromstar
  102. [2010-08-31 21:20:53] <Cromstar> EDEN's our good allies, but there's nations elsewhere we could work with if anybody bothered to try and put a little effort into it. We need to get out and talk to anyone who isn't cowering in fear of PHOENIX to expand our influence and circle of friends. We've lost touch with our SE Asian allies and lost too many of them to PTOs because we shifted our focus and left them behind us.
  103. [2010-08-31 21:20:59] <Cromstar> Done now ;)
  104. [2010-08-31 21:21:18] <SB> now
  105. [2010-08-31 21:21:27] <SB> attack each other for saying the same thing
  106. [2010-08-31 21:21:44] <CivilAnarchy> |NX| HOW DARE YOU SHARE MY OPINIONS.
  107. [2010-08-31 21:21:45] <Krems> I have a question for NX
  108. [2010-08-31 21:21:50] <SB> please
  109. [2010-08-31 21:21:51] <|NX|> fire away
  110. [2010-08-31 21:22:03] <Krems> how exactly do you imgaine improving our relations in SA will get us to eSA?
  111. [2010-08-31 21:22:28] <|NX|> I assume you mean South America to get to South Africa?
  112. [2010-08-31 21:22:40] <Krems> my question wouldn't make sense otherwise
  113. [2010-08-31 21:22:48] <Krems> so yes
  114. [2010-08-31 21:23:00] <Cromstar> Olmec understood it. ;)
  115. [2010-08-31 21:23:08] <SB> OLMEC FOR CP
  116. [2010-08-31 21:23:23] <Fionia> SB...
  117. [2010-08-31 21:23:29] <|NX|> if we can get two or three nations to retreat us across, we can barrel our way deep into South America in a hurry, and hit most of the independent nations before PHX could put MPPs into place
  118. [2010-08-31 21:23:39] <SB> wait
  119. [2010-08-31 21:23:40] <SB> isn't olmec the guy from treasures from the hidden jungle?
  120. [2010-08-31 21:23:41] <|NX|> from there its 2 or three major battles into South Africa
  121. [2010-08-31 21:23:47] =-= Mode #uswp-debates -o SB by Fionia
  122. [2010-08-31 21:23:49] <|NX|> Legends of the HIdden Temple
  123. [2010-08-31 21:23:51] <|NX|> :3
  124. [2010-08-31 21:24:20] <Krems> Basically you are suggesting Shock and Awe?
  125. [2010-08-31 21:24:31] <Krems> you do realise Brazil stands in the way, yes?
  126. [2010-08-31 21:24:32] <|NX|> more like
  127. [2010-08-31 21:24:38] <Cromstar> So you believe we should invade any non-PHOENIX countries as a way to win friends, NX?
  128. [2010-08-31 21:24:48] <|NX|> Cromstar: I'd love to make friends with all of them
  129. [2010-08-31 21:24:59] <|NX|> Krems: brasil isn't the only way in
  130. [2010-08-31 21:25:00] <|NX|> there's also argentina
  131. [2010-08-31 21:25:06] <Cromstar> "and hit most of the independent nations before PHX could put MPPs" is making friends?
  132. [2010-08-31 21:25:11] <|NX|> hell, I'd love to make friends with brasil
  133. [2010-08-31 21:25:29] <|NX|> Cromstar: Krems asked how I could do it
  134. [2010-08-31 21:25:31] <|NX|> thats how
  135. [2010-08-31 21:25:39] <Krems> right, but you don't think PHX won't figure out your 'barrel through' plan withing the week it would take you to get there?
  136. [2010-08-31 21:25:41] <|NX|> I'd rather they all were friends with us and merrily retreated away
  137. [2010-08-31 21:25:48] <Krems> derp, sign MPPs with Argis
  138. [2010-08-31 21:25:54] <Krems> plan = foiled
  139. [2010-08-31 21:25:57] <|NX|> Krems: thats why you need friends to retreat for you
  140. [2010-08-31 21:26:13] <Krems> lol
  141. [2010-08-31 21:26:24] <|NX|> :P
  142. [2010-08-31 21:26:24] <Krems> you realise how many countries are in the way?
  143. [2010-08-31 21:26:29] <|NX|> yeah
  144. [2010-08-31 21:26:38] <Krems> and that most of those are hostile
  145. [2010-08-31 21:26:43] <Krems> and/or PHX leaning?
  146. [2010-08-31 21:26:43] <|NX|> yep
  147. [2010-08-31 21:26:48] <Krems> k, just checking
  148. [2010-08-31 21:27:32] <Laxsnor> alright, are you all finished?
  149. [2010-08-31 21:27:38] <|NX|> I think so
  150. [2010-08-31 21:28:39] <Laxsnor> How do you plan on fixing the domestic PTO threat?
  151. [2010-08-31 21:28:52] <Laxsnor> |NX|
  152. [2010-08-31 21:30:32] <|NX|> The situation in Croatia is improving by leaps and bounds, which is continually going to free up our resources there. PTOs didn't re-emerge as a major threat until after the national primary, so I expect our troops returning home will nullify most of the situation. Beyond that, I'll encourage unity amongst the parties, and also work to get the #6 party out of the hands of all threats, foreign and domestic
  153. [2010-08-31 21:30:58] <|NX|> If I have to hunt Harlot down and run him against Pizza, so be it
  154. [2010-08-31 21:30:59] <|NX|> fin
  155. [2010-08-31 21:31:17] <Fionia> Cromstar:
  156. [2010-08-31 21:32:44] <Cromstar> Frankly, we have so many ATO situations abroad, Rod and the SAC are working hard to cover them all and try to free some of our seriously damaged allies (read: Australia). Honestly, there's little we can do except continue to deny PTOers ballot access and hope they all goa way, since we can't force the dozens of PTOers already here to leave or lose their citizenship thanks to Admins.
  157. [2010-08-31 21:33:49] <Cromstar> Getting Pthut out of the top parties is something I've been trying ot get people to do since he joined the Republican Party. It's a good way to weaken the Huns by taking away their best shot at a PTO of Congress. Beyond that...check and doublecheck our blockers and candidates to get rid of Huns.
  158. [2010-08-31 21:33:51] <Cromstar> Fini
  159. [2010-08-31 21:34:07] <Fionia> k
  160. [2010-08-31 21:34:10] <Fionia> CivilAnarchy:
  161. [2010-08-31 21:34:19] <CivilAnarchy> The Hungarian PTO is a very difficult situation to fix. We have no ability to deport them, nor take away their citizenship. The only way we can ensure that the PTO gains no more momentum is if we ensure that no PTO'er Congressmen are elected to provide the Hungarians with Citizenship. In this PTO, each month the Hungarians have no Congressmen is a month they
  162. [2010-08-31 21:34:48] <CivilAnarchy> lose manpower. The underlying problem is the fact that we require up to 250 blockers per month to ensure that a Hungarian simply doesnt randomly declare. Ensuring that all 250 of these people are not hungarians has proven to the the bane of our ATO. In my opinion, the only way we can ensure that no Hungarian blockers get through is to request as many Military
  163. [2010-08-31 21:34:58] <CivilAnarchy> blockers as we can possibly obtain. The initial fallback of this plan is it would stand many of our military forces for 3 days, something initially frightening while fighting a war. However, it is imperative that we do this for the time being, seeing as the PTO threat is fairly substantial. Another way of lessening the threat would be the rental of more regio
  164. [2010-08-31 21:35:21] <CivilAnarchy> s to allies, which is truly a win-win situation for us. Less regions, less blockers, more difficulty for a Hungarian to get elected. This is a war of Attrition. The longer we hold out without a Hungarian Congressmen, the weaker the hungarians become. Pizza the Hut is negliable, simply a pawn in the greater mix.
  165. [2010-08-31 21:35:21] <CivilAnarchy> Fin.
  166. [2010-08-31 21:35:27] <Fionia> and Krems
  167. [2010-08-31 21:35:48] <Krems> We need to look at all our options. Firstly, we need to get more help and mobilisation from the larger parties. USWP and Feds need to shift people when called upon. My executive branch was on at 3 AM coordinating the last ATO effort. If not for them we would have lost last month and that shows you the extent to which we have experience at fighting the PTO.
  168. [2010-08-31 21:35:58] <Krems> Secondly, we need to look into fighting fire with fire.
  169. [2010-08-31 21:36:13] <Krems> A exec controlled bot net may be what's needed
  170. [2010-08-31 21:36:28] <Krems> we can't just sit on our hands and hope, the exec must take the initiative
  171. [2010-08-31 21:36:34] <Krems> fin
  172. [2010-08-31 21:37:00] <Laxsnor> mkay, go at each other now
  173. [2010-08-31 21:37:37] <|NX|> Krems, after Poland was raped by admin for exploiting the hackings earlier, how leery are you of the possible repercussions of having multis linkable to the Executive?
  174. [2010-08-31 21:38:16] <Krems> What did poland actually lose out of the hackings?
  175. [2010-08-31 21:38:27] <|NX|> the regions they'd conquered, gold, and MPPs
  176. [2010-08-31 21:38:45] <Krems> Not really a rape then :/
  177. [2010-08-31 21:38:47] <Krems> anyway
  178. [2010-08-31 21:39:00] <Cromstar> Krems: "If not for them we would have lost last month and that shows you the extent to which we have experience at fighting the PTO." Didn't the admins actually do us a favor last ATO effort when teh Republicans passed the UIP, since we couldn't stop Ajay from taking the #5 slot?
  179. [2010-08-31 21:39:09] <Krems> I'd point to the success that PHX has had with its PTO botting
  180. [2010-08-31 21:39:23] <|NX|> again
  181. [2010-08-31 21:39:24] <Krems> to show how much our ATO bot nets might achieve
  182. [2010-08-31 21:39:29] <|NX|> Republicans were kicked out of the top 5
  183. [2010-08-31 21:39:38] <Krems> Didn't the admins actually do us a favor last ATO effort when teh Republicans passed the UIP, since we couldn't stop Ajay from taking the #5 slot?
  184. [2010-08-31 21:39:49] <Cromstar> So in other words, you're taking credit for admins banning cheating bots? and then advocating we do the same?
  185. [2010-08-31 21:39:54] <Krems> It was my executive branch who were the guys hunt the multis
  186. [2010-08-31 21:39:59] <Krems> *hunting
  187. [2010-08-31 21:40:06] <Krems> they handed them the multi list
  188. [2010-08-31 21:40:26] <Krems> and then they actually got on skype and convinced them to ban them and fix the elections
  189. [2010-08-31 21:40:31] <Krems> CHoc was the man who did this
  190. [2010-08-31 21:40:46] <Krems> tbh, I don't know what more you can expect from the executive branch
  191. [2010-08-31 21:40:51] <Krems> fuck me, he's delicious
  192. [2010-08-31 21:41:08] <Fionia> are we ready to move on?
  193. [2010-08-31 21:41:22] <Krems> are we?
  194. [2010-08-31 21:41:36] <Fionia> idk, i'm asking all the candidates
  195. [2010-08-31 21:41:38] <|NX|> I dunno
  196. [2010-08-31 21:41:50] <|NX|> Krems really hasn't responded to the question of how to make bot nets effective when admin bans bot nets
  197. [2010-08-31 21:41:54] <CivilAnarchy> Imo Bot Nets would be a little much
  198. [2010-08-31 21:42:11] <Krems> <+Krems> I'd point to the success that PHX has had with its PTO botting
  199. [2010-08-31 21:42:11] <Krems> <+|NX|> again
  200. [2010-08-31 21:42:11] <Krems> <+Krems> to show how much our ATO bot nets might achieve
  201. [2010-08-31 21:42:12] <CivilAnarchy> But fighting back *with* PTO's isn't completely unreasonable.
  202. [2010-08-31 21:42:19] <Krems> I don't see what I'm missing here
  203. [2010-08-31 21:42:29] <Krems> Australia, South Africa, Malaysia, Peru
  204. [2010-08-31 21:42:39] <Krems> all of these were successful bot net PTOs
  205. [2010-08-31 21:42:52] <|NX|> do you think admin's effectiveness has changed recently?
  206. [2010-08-31 21:42:59] <Krems> show me one negative reprocusion that they got from that
  207. [2010-08-31 21:43:04] <Krems> clearly not
  208. [2010-08-31 21:43:11] <Krems> admin needed us to hunt down the US bots for them
  209. [2010-08-31 21:43:18] <Krems> it's not an improvement on their part
  210. [2010-08-31 21:43:30] <Krems> it's an improvement on the part of our executive branch
  211. [2010-08-31 21:43:38] <Krems> and furthermore, they imperically have
  212. [2010-08-31 21:43:54] <Krems> as they recently reduced the number of community mods with mutli hunting tools
  213. [2010-08-31 21:44:15] <Fionia> ok...we're getting repetitive...Laxsnor, next question
  214. [2010-08-31 21:44:29] <Krems> ofc, you wouldn;t really know about that :/
  215. [2010-08-31 21:44:33] <Laxsnor> Your VP pick and cabinet applications. Brag about and discuss them.
  216. [2010-08-31 21:44:40] <Laxsnor> CivilAnarchy
  217. [2010-08-31 21:45:41] <CivilAnarchy> VP isn't public atm. And Cabinet Applications will be out later tonight.
  218. [2010-08-31 21:45:42] <CivilAnarchy> Fin.
  219. [2010-08-31 21:45:47] <Laxsnor> Actually, strike the word applications. Just Cabinett.
  220. [2010-08-31 21:45:52] <Laxsnor> Sorry for the miscommunication
  221. [2010-08-31 21:46:07] <Laxsnor> CivilAnarchy, do you wish to modify your answer?
  222. [2010-08-31 21:46:34] <CivilAnarchy> No, last one still stands, sort of.
  223. [2010-08-31 21:46:37] <Laxsnor> kk
  224. [2010-08-31 21:46:40] <Laxsnor> Cromstar
  225. [2010-08-31 21:48:24] <Cromstar> My VP is Kazeal, as I said earlier. He's been around a long time, done good work all over the government. Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't come up for something this big before now. I've never heard anyone bring up anything bad about the work he does...and of course the UIP are all over him like...well, gays on a hot guy ;) I haven't done any specifics on a cabinet yet, however.
  226. [2010-08-31 21:48:24] <Cromstar> But I'm looking at a lot of people I want to pull in if they'll agree. Fin.
  227. [2010-08-31 21:49:17] <Fionia> Krems
  228. [2010-08-31 21:49:39] <Krems> I'm not going to announce my VP before parties endorse
  229. [2010-08-31 21:49:51] <Krems> I want mine to be someone who's good at his job
  230. [2010-08-31 21:50:00] <Krems> not a political endorsement grabber
  231. [2010-08-31 21:50:11] <Krems> as for my cabinet
  232. [2010-08-31 21:50:29] <Krems> I've seen my team in action this month, I know who did well and who I want to replace
  233. [2010-08-31 21:50:55] <Krems> Like I said in my article, on the whole the group I had this month worked well
  234. [2010-08-31 21:50:58] <Krems> done
  235. [2010-08-31 21:51:17] <Laxsnor> 2(|NX|2): Be serious on this one, please.
  236. [2010-08-31 21:51:21] <|NX|> As most of you know, my VP pick, Wilford Brimley, has for years worked with Liberty Medical to provide Diabeetus testing supplies to Americans. Twice now he has prevented an outbreak of Diabeetus in Alaska, and even now he's in Western Alaska, fighting Diabeetus and reducing dementia in its citizens.
  237. [2010-08-31 21:51:21] <|NX|> We firmly believe that once the Diabeetus outbreak is overcome the people of Western Alaska will once again yearn for liberty and freedom, and return to the USA.
  238. [2010-08-31 21:51:21] <|NX|> As for the rest of my cabinet, I've worked to fill in the holes in my experience, while playing up my own abilities to communicate and organize in an executive role. I'm bringing BR back, Gulden Draak has agreed to remain as my foreign secretary.
  239. [2010-08-31 21:51:21] <|NX|> I've got a bunch of old fgts running things with enough newbies to keep it from turning into a giant circle jerk over how things used to be.
  240. [2010-08-31 21:51:32] <Fionia> :/
  241. [2010-08-31 21:51:57] <|NX|> I take the role of VP as seriously as it deserves :P
  242. [2010-08-31 21:51:58] <|NX|> fin
  243. [2010-08-31 21:51:59] <Krems> you wasted 3 posts on bullshit
  244. [2010-08-31 21:52:16] <Krems> this si the kind of crap you got impeached for
  245. [2010-08-31 21:52:18] <Krems> *is
  246. [2010-08-31 21:52:28] <Krems> kindly take this seriously, I don't have time for joke candidates
  247. [2010-08-31 21:52:29] <|NX|> I got impeached for not wanting a strong SoH, or a strong Congress
  248. [2010-08-31 21:52:44] <Fionia> hold off on the impeachment comments
  249. [2010-08-31 21:52:46] <Laxsnor> Keep on topic, please.
  250. [2010-08-31 21:52:50] <Krems> isn't that what a leader is supoposed to want?
  251. [2010-08-31 21:52:51] <Cromstar> Worse than that...he wasted our time on bullshit. Some of us understand that the VP can and should do real work. I plan on making kazeal work his gay ass off.
  252. [2010-08-31 21:52:57] <Fionia> just discuss the cabinets/VP
  253. [2010-08-31 21:53:44] <Cromstar> Also...krems...since I'm the only candidate with a VP...are you saying I picked Kazeal only because he's UIP? Your statement about endoresement grabbers couldn't be directed at any other candidate. :(
  254. [2010-08-31 21:53:59] <Krems> I wasn't directed at anyone this election
  255. [2010-08-31 21:54:07] <Krems> you clearly enjoy working with Kazeal
  256. [2010-08-31 21:54:18] <Krems> I've just worked on a lot of campaigns in the past
  257. [2010-08-31 21:54:26] <Krems> and that's always a common theme I've noticed
  258. [2010-08-31 21:55:27] <CivilAnarchy> Fuck yea there are only 2 questions left
  259. [2010-08-31 21:55:34] <Laxsnor> lolno
  260. [2010-08-31 21:55:34] <Fionia> well
  261. [2010-08-31 21:55:37] <Fionia> not quite :)
  262. [2010-08-31 21:55:43] <CivilAnarchy> T_T
  263. [2010-08-31 21:55:44] <Fionia> we added in a little surprise
  264. [2010-08-31 21:55:47] =-= Mode #uswp-debates +v SB by Laxsnor
  265. [2010-08-31 21:55:48] =-= Mode #uswp-debates +o SB by Fionia
  266. [2010-08-31 21:55:54] <SB> MUHUHAHAHAHA
  267. [2010-08-31 21:55:54] <Laxsnor> Take it away, keyboard bag
  268. [2010-08-31 21:55:56] <Cromstar> ...thank you soooo much :P
  269. [2010-08-31 21:56:54] <SB> |NX|: since you were just impeached as SoH for failing epically, why are you qualified to be POTUS
  270. [2010-08-31 21:56:56] <SB> ?
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  276. [2010-08-31 21:59:42] <KittehBot> [Fi|ping] I changed my damn greet
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  281. [2010-08-31 21:59:44] <Krems> clearly they appreciated it
  282. [2010-08-31 21:59:46] <Cromstar> Is that what they call not doing the job now? Disagreement? 'Sorry boss...I disagreed with the time schedule you posted in the break room; I wanted to work friday instead. Don't fire me for disagreeing.'
  283. [2010-08-31 21:59:59] <|NX|> I got through the first month
  284. [2010-08-31 22:00:07] <|NX|> the second month, the new congress impeached me
  285. [2010-08-31 22:00:08] * |NX| shrugs
  286. [2010-08-31 22:00:12] <|NX|> thats their right
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  291. [2010-08-31 22:03:24] <KittehBot> [Fi|ping] I changed my damn greet
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  293. [2010-08-31 22:04:02] <Krems> an elected official does what his consituents want him to
  294. [2010-08-31 22:04:02] <|NX|> I did
  295. [2010-08-31 22:04:04] <|NX|> I was impeached, and stepped aside :3
  296. [2010-08-31 22:04:05] <Krems> ys, that's why they impeached you
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  298. [2010-08-31 22:04:19] <Krems> this si fucking retarded
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  302. [2010-08-31 22:04:42] <|NX|> I believe someone elected should run things as they see fit
  303. [2010-08-31 22:04:42] <Krems> why am I wasting my time debating someone who just got impeached from Kongress leadership
  304. [2010-08-31 22:04:51] <|NX|> otherwise you just institute direct democracy
  305. [2010-08-31 22:04:51] <Krems> >Kongress
  306. [2010-08-31 22:05:06] <Krems> I have a question for Cromstar
  307. [2010-08-31 22:05:20] <Cromstar> I'm still waiting for SB to reply, but go ahead Krems.
  308. [2010-08-31 22:05:27] <Fionia> SB is asking the questions
  309. [2010-08-31 22:05:30] <SB> Later you can
  310. [2010-08-31 22:05:33] <Fionia> Krems, you can wait
  311. [2010-08-31 22:05:33] <Krems> ok
  312. [2010-08-31 22:05:33] <Cromstar> My bad.
  313. [2010-08-31 22:05:43] <SB> Fine crom, last month you havent had a job
  314. [2010-08-31 22:05:47] <SB> relevency, etc
  315. [2010-08-31 22:07:19] <Cromstar> I'd say I'm still relevant because people know who I am. People ask me for all kinds of advice and help. If people come to me for my expertise, I'm obviously still relevant. In fact, in both of NX's impeachment trials, I was floated as a possible replacement for him.
  316. [2010-08-31 22:07:50] <SB> so popularity=relevancy?
  317. [2010-08-31 22:08:21] <Cromstar> People don't ask your advice because your popular, but because they respect your opinion and knowledge.
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  322. [2010-08-31 22:11:20] <KittehBot> [Fi|ping] I changed my damn greet
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  329. [2010-08-31 22:12:15] <CivilAnarchy> So no more character assassination?
  330. [2010-08-31 22:12:16] <Krems> losing momentum in the asian battles has little to do with my activity
  331. [2010-08-31 22:12:31] <Krems> we got outplayed in RW timing
  332. [2010-08-31 22:12:39] <Krems> and we didn't turn up to win
  333. [2010-08-31 22:12:58] <Krems> I was online for those battles so I don't think it's fair to say we lost them due to a lack of activity
  334. [2010-08-31 22:13:08] <SB> So your saying the CP has no effect on military success?
  335. [2010-08-31 22:13:09] <SB> cool
  336. [2010-08-31 22:13:18] <Krems> defense, yes
  337. [2010-08-31 22:13:21] <Krems> offense, no
  338. [2010-08-31 22:13:32] <Krems> and you always have an effect
  339. [2010-08-31 22:13:39] <Krems> such as rallying allies
  340. [2010-08-31 22:13:46] <SB> so basically, your position is "I know I sucked, let me try again"?
  341. [2010-08-31 22:13:50] <Krems> but ofc, doing that is not immediately obvious to the public
  342. [2010-08-31 22:13:54] <Krems> not at all
  343. [2010-08-31 22:14:01] <Krems> My position is I fucking rocked
  344. [2010-08-31 22:14:09] <Krems> but imagine how much better I can do with more free time
  345. [2010-08-31 22:14:31] <SB> You said you sucked in your article
  346. [2010-08-31 22:14:42] <SB> but now someone is questioning you you rocked?
  347. [2010-08-31 22:14:43] * SB sense a discrepency
  348. [2010-08-31 22:15:20] <Krems> I said that personally I was unsatisfied with my activity
  349. [2010-08-31 22:16:08] <Krems> not the same as sucking as a leader
  350. [2010-08-31 22:16:09] <Krems> but cool bullshit
  351. [2010-08-31 22:16:09] <Krems> I hold myself to a high standard
  352. [2010-08-31 22:16:10] <SB> yeah
  353. [2010-08-31 22:16:10] <Krems> higher then most CPs I imagine
  354. [2010-08-31 22:16:10] <SB> I'm the bullshitter here
  355. [2010-08-31 22:16:10] <SB> anyways
  356. [2010-08-31 22:16:10] <SB> people want me to move on
  357. [2010-08-31 22:16:12] <Krems> Just ebcause I did not meet my own personal targets does not mean I left the country down
  358. [2010-08-31 22:16:23] <Krems> please don't attack me
  359. [2010-08-31 22:16:26] <Krems> tia~
  360. [2010-08-31 22:16:38] <SB> hello strawman
  361. [2010-08-31 22:16:46] <SB> please shut up so we can move on
  362. [2010-08-31 22:16:47] <SB> k?
  363. [2010-08-31 22:16:53] <Fionia> SB: move on
  364. [2010-08-31 22:17:12] <SB> CivilAnarchy: you just ran on Phut's ticket last month, why should we trust you?
  365. [2010-08-31 22:17:42] <CivilAnarchy> Did you recall me ever campaigning for pthut?
  366. [2010-08-31 22:17:53] <CivilAnarchy> Releasing Articles? Asking people to vote for me?
  367. [2010-08-31 22:17:57] * SB recalls you lending your name and legitimacy to his ticket
  368. [2010-08-31 22:18:17] <CivilAnarchy> I put forth an absolute minimal amount of support towards that ticket.
  369. [2010-08-31 22:18:41] <CivilAnarchy> What I obtained from that run has helped the country greatly.
  370. [2010-08-31 22:19:06] <SB> So aiding Phut helps the country?
  371. [2010-08-31 22:19:19] <CivilAnarchy> What I obtained from him has helped the country.
  372. [2010-08-31 22:19:43] <SB> yay vaugeness
  373. [2010-08-31 22:19:55] <CivilAnarchy> I'll leave it up to you then
  374. [2010-08-31 22:20:00] <Krems> <@SB> hello strawman
  375. [2010-08-31 22:20:01] <Krems> <@SB> please shut up so we can move on
  376. [2010-08-31 22:20:01] <Krems> <@SB> k?
  377. [2010-08-31 22:20:04] <Krems> What the fuck is this?
  378. [2010-08-31 22:20:06] <Fionia> ooook
  379. [2010-08-31 22:20:12] <CivilAnarchy> Its quite literally a matter of National Security
  380. [2010-08-31 22:20:18] <Krems> You set up NX, then cut me off during my answer
  381. [2010-08-31 22:20:21] <Krems> call me a bullshiter
  382. [2010-08-31 22:20:26] <Krems> and then continue to troll me
  383. [2010-08-31 22:20:34] <Krems> I understand I'm on the away pitch right now
  384. [2010-08-31 22:20:43] <Krems> but try to be a bit more proffesional with your moderating
  385. [2010-08-31 22:21:16] <SB> This is a game, not a job
  386. [2010-08-31 22:21:25] <Krems> this is a debate, not an execution
  387. [2010-08-31 22:21:29] <SB> I'd rather you guys ask each other questions
  388. [2010-08-31 22:21:32] <Laxsnor> Alright
  389. [2010-08-31 22:21:35] <Krems> then stop trolling me
  390. [2010-08-31 22:21:38] =-= Mode #uswp-debates -v SB by Laxsnor
  391. [2010-08-31 22:21:44] =-= Mode #uswp-debates -o SB by Laxsnor
  392. [2010-08-31 22:21:49] <Laxsnor> Next question
  393. [2010-08-31 22:22:08] <Laxsnor> India is getting invaded by Servia. What are you going to do about this?
  394. [2010-08-31 22:22:11] <Laxsnor> Cromstar
  395. [2010-08-31 22:23:07] <Cromstar> We have an MPP. We’ll use it. India isn’t good at recognizing debt, though. In my opinion, they need to be shown that they actually need us. A little fear could do some good. We'll help out...but we'll make sure they understand it's a two-way relationship, and they can't just abuse and monopolise our time when the shit hits the fan.
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  400. [2010-08-31 22:26:33] <KittehBot> [Fi|ping] I changed my damn greet
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  402. [2010-08-31 22:26:42] <Krems> and the serbians deploying there en mass
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  404. [2010-08-31 22:26:53] <Krems> but we are giving them our full support
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  409. [2010-08-31 22:28:52] <Laxsnor> Krems, fin?
  410. [2010-08-31 22:28:58] <Krems> done
  411. [2010-08-31 22:29:00] <Laxsnor> kk
  412. [2010-08-31 22:29:13] <Laxsnor> NX isn't here atm
  413. [2010-08-31 22:29:13] <Laxsnor> so
  414. [2010-08-31 22:29:17] <Laxsnor> CivilAnarchy
  415. [2010-08-31 22:30:31] <CivilAnarchy> Obviously, we're going to side with India in this conflict. We're currently fighting Phoenix throughout Asia, and this is simply another front. Full MPP support, and full Military support.
  416. [2010-08-31 22:30:41] <CivilAnarchy> fin.
  417. [2010-08-31 22:31:09] <Laxsnor> Cromstar
  418. [2010-08-31 22:31:18] <Cromstar> ...I went first.
  419. [2010-08-31 22:31:30] <Fionia> ok
  420. [2010-08-31 22:31:34] <Fionia> Lax, final question
  421. [2010-08-31 22:31:35] * Cromstar thinks Laxsnor is slipping
  422. [2010-08-31 22:32:40] <Laxsnor> fail
  423. [2010-08-31 22:32:56] <Laxsnor> What is the one most important thing that you want to get done this term?
  424. [2010-08-31 22:33:00] <Laxsnor> CivilAnarchy
  425. [2010-08-31 22:35:54] <CivilAnarchy> Easy. I want to rejuvenate the Interior of America. Obviously, this starts with a complete reworking of the Interior Department, as well as making the Departments of Media and State more open to the public. Over the last few months, I've had to watch as DoI programs, and other governmental programs, fall into disarray, and ineffectiveness.
  426. [2010-08-31 22:35:54] <CivilAnarchy> When I'm elected, these are the first things to get attention. These are the first things I'm going to fix. We cannot focus on Russia, or Phoenix, or Eden without having a strong homefront.
  427. [2010-08-31 22:35:54] <CivilAnarchy> Fin.
  428. [2010-08-31 22:36:00] <Laxsnor> Cromstar
  429. [2010-08-31 22:37:05] <Cromstar> The things I want to really get done all fall into one category: Make things fun again. It's a game; we play games for fun. Ergo, eRep should be fun. I'm not sure if I'll start with sending Phoenix all that Preparation H they'll be needing real soon, or by helping increase the awesomeness that civilian mass attacks can be.
  430. [2010-08-31 22:38:02] <Cromstar> The last two SecDefs have really made that program work, and its one to continue. There's other funs things we can do, all without losing our focus on getting important stuff done. Most fun I ever had was helping Josh Frost with the France PTO...which ultimately failed, but we had fun making PEACE run around trying to stop us.
  431. [2010-08-31 22:38:02] <Cromstar> Fini.
  432. [2010-08-31 22:38:22] <Laxsnor> Krems
  433. [2010-08-31 22:38:24] <Krems> Domination of Asia.
  434. [2010-08-31 22:38:27] <Krems> done
  435. [2010-08-31 22:38:36] <Laxsnor> k.
  436. [2010-08-31 22:39:10] <Laxsnor> We've got some audience questions now, they're all fucking stupid, but bear with me
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  441. [2010-08-31 22:45:26] <KittehBot> [Fi|ping] I changed my damn greet
  442. [2010-08-31 22:45:26] =-= Mode #uswp-debates +ao Fi|ping Fi|ping by KittehBot
  443. [2010-08-31 22:45:43] <Laxsnor> mmk
  444. [2010-08-31 22:45:55] |<-- Fionia has left irc.x1n.org (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  445. [2010-08-31 22:46:11] =-= YOU are now known as Fionia
  446. [2010-08-31 22:46:28] <Laxsnor> There are no more relevant questions, so if the candidates want to ask each other stuff, then that'd be cool
  447. [2010-08-31 22:46:43] <Krems> I'll hang around if there are some serious questions
  448. [2010-08-31 22:46:47] <Krems> otherwise I need to go to bed
  449. [2010-08-31 22:47:24] <Laxsnor> (21:42:19) (Llyud_) "How exactly, do you plan on dominating Asia? Not a detailed plan or anything, but a general idea."
  450. [2010-08-31 22:48:51] <Krems> do you want it exactly, or not a detailed plan?
  451. [2010-08-31 22:49:13] <Krems> there are three main points to dominating asia
  452. [2010-08-31 22:49:16] <Krems> 1. FWA
  453. [2010-08-31 22:49:18] <Krems> 2. LK
  454. [2010-08-31 22:49:25] <Krems> 3. Serbia in SOuth Asia
  455. [2010-08-31 22:49:34] <Krems> FWA is obvious, as is LK
  456. [2010-08-31 22:49:52] <Krems> Serbia in South Asia is soemthing that needs a bit of finesse
  457. [2010-08-31 22:50:08] <Krems> anyway, the question was, "What would I like to accomplish"
  458. [2010-08-31 22:50:14] <Krems> that's how I answered it
  459. [2010-08-31 22:50:32] <Laxsnor> kk
  460. [2010-08-31 22:50:41] <Laxsnor> Cromstar or CivilAnarchy want to comment?
  461. [2010-08-31 22:51:28] =-= Krems is now known as Turtle
  462. [2010-08-31 22:52:01] <Fionia> we're running out of time
  463. [2010-08-31 22:52:04] <Cromstar> Mm...krems pretty much hit it on the head. It'll take work, planning, and luck (much like the win in HelloKitty did) to win in Asia.
  464. [2010-08-31 22:52:27] <Turtle> It's possiable
  465. [2010-08-31 22:52:29] <CivilAnarchy> In addition to Asia, I'd also put focus on helping out allies in South Africa and Australia.
  466. [2010-08-31 22:52:29] <Turtle> I've shown that
  467. [2010-08-31 22:52:38] <Laxsnor> kk
  468. [2010-08-31 22:52:42] <CivilAnarchy> Which are also imperative to fighting against the Phoenix military effort.
  469. [2010-08-31 22:52:49] <CivilAnarchy> Also, question for Krems
  470. [2010-08-31 22:52:52] <CivilAnarchy> or Turtle
  471. [2010-08-31 22:52:57] <Turtle> yo
  472. [2010-08-31 22:52:59] <CivilAnarchy> Turtle: How do you plan on balancing your A&F modeling with eRep this month?
  473. [2010-08-31 22:53:09] <Fionia> ...
  474. [2010-08-31 22:53:17] <Laxsnor> From Wpcak: stances about incorporating people who havent been as highly involved in politics into their cabinets so as to mix in new blood
  475. [2010-08-31 22:53:25] <Turtle> I'm only working for A&F on weekends
  476. [2010-08-31 22:53:30] <Laxsnor> CivilAnarchy, stupid question was stupid
  477. [2010-08-31 22:53:35] <Turtle> and it wouldn't start until the end of sept
  478. [2010-08-31 22:53:40] <Turtle> so it should be fine
  479. [2010-08-31 22:53:42] <CivilAnarchy> I've been debating for 2 hours, I'm allowed one.
  480. [2010-08-31 22:54:01] <Laxsnor> Answer the serious question please
  481. [2010-08-31 22:54:11] <Fionia> well, this is the last audience question, and last question altogether
  482. [2010-08-31 22:54:14] <Fionia> answer it
  483. [2010-08-31 22:55:26] [ERROR] The connection to irc://irc.x1n.org/ (irc://irc.x1n.org/) was aborted because you went into offline mode.
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  485. [2010-08-31 22:56:39] =-= Topic for #uswp-debates is ``USWP POTUS Debate. Starts August 31, 2010 18:00 eRepublik Time. || Audience questions will be taken at the end, PM to get your question asked.''
  486. [2010-08-31 22:56:39] =-= Topic for #uswp-debates was set by Fionia!~chatzilla@42D78AA3.EED91DB4.A13A76D8.IP on August 31, 2010 9:17:41 PM
  487. [2010-08-31 22:56:39] <KittehBot> [Fi|ping] I changed my damn greet
  488. [2010-08-31 22:56:39] =-= Mode #uswp-debates +ao Fi|ping Fi|ping by KittehBot
  489. [2010-08-31 22:56:41] =-= YOU are now known as Fionia
  490. [2010-08-31 22:57:01] <Laxsnor> Cromstar
  491. [2010-08-31 22:57:08] <Cromstar> I've put out open applications for my administration already. Frankly, while I've got a few people I've already considered for some posts, there are others I haven't settled on yet...experience is nice, but you need to be able to do the job. New players with a little expereince under their belt are often better at that, so I'm open to them.
  492. [2010-08-31 22:57:10] <Cromstar> Done
  493. [2010-08-31 22:57:19] <Turtle> I never understood the need to reach out to new blood. If they are any good they will work their way into a position, as everyone in power now did at some point. We need the cabinet that is best for the country and I will pick the best poeple regardless of age or lack there of. Not picking a hard working player who is the best for the job purely to give it to a 'new blood' player seems
  494. [2010-08-31 22:57:19] <Turtle> like faulty logic to me.
  495. [2010-08-31 22:58:06] <CivilAnarchy> If I may comment, with a lot of experienced players that have worked their way up to the top, burnout is a factor.
  496. [2010-08-31 22:58:57] <CivilAnarchy> Its important to have new blood because they don't suffer from the burnout effect, but the best combination is having a combination of new players and oldfags in a Department, to counter balance each other.
  497. [2010-08-31 22:58:57] <Turtle> ofc
  498. [2010-08-31 22:59:18] <Turtle> I make my cabient selections on current work ethic and ability
  499. [2010-08-31 22:59:33] <Turtle> if someone is burnt out, they won't be chosedn
  500. [2010-08-31 22:59:37] <Turtle> *chosen
  501. [2010-08-31 22:59:45] <CivilAnarchy> Understandable.
  502. [2010-08-31 23:00:37] * Cromstar wonders if krems is burnt out :P
  503. [2010-08-31 23:00:39] <Laxsnor> mkay... so, it's late and I'm tired of this.
  504. [2010-08-31 23:00:44] <Cromstar> \o/
  505. [2010-08-31 23:00:46] <Laxsnor> Thanks for showing up
  506. [2010-08-31 23:00:53] <Cromstar> FREEEEEEDDDDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM
  507. [2010-08-31 23:00:59] <Turtle> I'm not burnt out
  508. [2010-08-31 23:01:04] <Laxsnor> Logs will be posted online as soon as I edit out the join/leave statements
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