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Dec 25th, 2015
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  1. Pr★fessor zamuil: What kind of ideas you need?
  2. Pr★fessor zamuil: and why you no do metroid fanfic? :I
  3. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I'm going to work on both
  4. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Alternate
  5. Pr★fessor zamuil: OK I'm satisfied with that answer
  6. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I have that one down, but my issue with PMD is its age
  7. Pr★fessor zamuil: so gen 4 legend huh
  8. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Oh I meant VI
  9. Gym Le★der Maxerus: 6
  10. Pr★fessor zamuil: o i read wron gI guess
  11. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But yeah biggest issue
  12. Pr★fessor zamuil: use Yveltal. I like death
  13. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok sorry, off topic.
  14. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Lol I'm tryng to think how to. Biggest issue is the age of these stories
  15. Pr★fessor zamuil: how do you mean, if you're writing the fanfic, the stories ought to be brandnew
  16. Gym Le★der Maxerus: It doesn't effect the Metroid much, but these two stories basically come from "gae designs" I'd doodle in Middle School
  17. Gym Le★der Maxerus: No no
  18. Gym Le★der Maxerus: They are my original thoughts
  19. Pr★fessor zamuil: o ok
  20. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The issue is when they were thought
  21. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  22. Gym Le★der Maxerus: In Middle School. Time hasn't hurt the Metroid one
  23. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But...2 Generations have passed for the PMD one
  24. Pr★fessor zamuil: Then just write it in the gen its in
  25. Gym Le★der Maxerus: It alread seriously lacks Gen V Pokemon
  26. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well the issue is the characters are finalized
  27. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Down to the personality
  28. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Nearly 50 characters
  29. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Like 2 are Gen V
  30. Gym Le★der Maxerus: and 0 are Gen VI
  31. Pr★fessor zamuil: then write it that way. its fine.
  32. Pr★fessor zamuil: Focus on writing teh story
  33. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah but i feel it's odd
  34. Pr★fessor zamuil: the pokemon generations don't matter that much
  35. Pr★fessor zamuil: you can write a sequel for newer gens
  36. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah but still. Isn't it obvious when a story includes nothing past 493 in the Pokedex lol
  37. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Like I literally have 2 Gen V Characters
  38. Pr★fessor zamuil: There's nothing wrong with that
  39. Pr★fessor zamuil: you can write for older generations
  40. Pr★fessor zamuil: a wider audience will recognize the characters
  41. Gym Le★der Maxerus: An ignorant and jumpy cop (Sigilyph) and a Map Dealer (Golurk)
  42. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I guess that's true
  43. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I mean it's still original
  44. Pr★fessor zamuil: If it really bothers you that much, just change a core character to a newer gen
  45. Pr★fessor zamuil: readers won't realize the lack of neweer gen poke becuase a main character is newer gen
  46. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Literally the only borrowed idea is the Guild, but this one is ran by a Carnivine that suffered a brain injury and his assistant Luxray
  47. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hmm...maybe
  48. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well the two MAIN characters (hero and partner) are currently Torchic and Eevee (male and female)
  49. Pr★fessor zamuil: Ok
  50. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Then branchng from that
  51. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Other "Main characters" include Voltier (Luxray), Terramus (Carnivine), Carine (Aggron), Lucky (Politoed), and the main Villain Maxerus (Mightyena (the story came before my name))
  52. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Those need to stay...
  53. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Maybe change a guild member or townie...
  54. Pr★fessor zamuil: make aggron go mega
  55. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hmm...maybe i could find a scene for that
  56. Pr★fessor zamuil: Cool
  57. Gym Le★der Maxerus: She is one of the few townies that actually have a fighting scene
  58. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Here's an idea
  59. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I'll give you a list of Shop Owners and Guild Members (some not important some are) and you pitch ideas for a change in each
  60. Pr★fessor zamuil: Sounds good
  61. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Guildmembers
  62. Gym Le★der Maxerus: * = Semi-Major to major role in the story
  63. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Terramus (Carnivine)*
  64. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Voltier (Luxray)*
  65. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Erebrus (Murkrow)
  66. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Blade (Scyther)*
  67. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Claydol (forgot the name it's written somewhere)*
  68. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Negit (Shelgon)
  69. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Sheldon (Shelder)
  70. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Brutus (Machoke)
  71. Pr★fessor zamuil: brutus into the fight/fly
  72. Pr★fessor zamuil: shelder into skrelp
  73. Pr★fessor zamuil: claydol into the rock fairy
  74. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hmm I'll do the first two, but the Claydol has just a feel in the story I want to keep
  75. Pr★fessor zamuil: shelgon for goomy's evo
  76. Pr★fessor zamuil: maybe>
  77. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Nah Shelgon is a depressed pokemon and so is the character
  78. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Oh
  79. Gym Le★der Maxerus: There are two un-named Pokemon I can change
  80. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Let's make those Gen V
  81. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  82. Gym Le★der Maxerus: A Lucario and Venonat
  83. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The Venonat needs to be a dopey Pokemon
  84. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Or at least something we can see as unintellegent
  85. Pr★fessor zamuil: veno into goomy
  86. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well how about these two into Gen V or hange one of the previous to Gen V
  87. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  88. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Maybe Lucario into Sawk?
  89. Pr★fessor zamuil: yea
  90. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So Lucario and Venonat to Sawk and Goomy
  91. Pr★fessor zamuil: yup
  92. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Machoke and Shelder into Hawlucha and...something Gen V, Water, and weak...
  93. Pr★fessor zamuil: skrelp
  94. Pr★fessor zamuil: actually better one
  95. Pr★fessor zamuil: machoke into chesnaught
  96. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Better what?
  97. Pr★fessor zamuil: better replacement
  98. Pr★fessor zamuil: [16:30] Pr★fessor zamuil: machoke into chesnaught
  99. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hmm...well the character (Brutus) does have a complex where he is convinced he is the best thing ever and that he is much loved by the Guildmaster and Co
  100. Pr★fessor zamuil: so either hawlucha or chesnaught would work there
  101. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah I think hawlucha sounded cool
  102. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So final list...
  103. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Terramus (Carnivine)
  104. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Voltier (Luxray)
  105. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Brutus (Hawlucha)
  106. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Slice (Scyther)
  107. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Levator (Claydol)
  108. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Erebrus (Murkrow)
  109. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Sawk
  110. Pr★fessor zamuil: Erebus, what's his role
  111. Gym Le★der Maxerus: In the guild, he is the sentry (done differently from the Wigglituff one from PMD2; he hides in th mouth and watches). Basically, extreme comic relief
  112. Gym Le★der Maxerus: To the point of mental retardation. I prefer to keep him
  113. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Anywho, Goomy
  114. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Negit (shelgon)
  115. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Sheldon (Skrelp...needs a name change)
  116. Pr★fessor zamuil: Silge
  117. Pr★fessor zamuil: and if yu want you can make shelgon gabite
  118. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hmm...something weak and/or helpless wimp/nerdy sounding
  119. Gym Le★der Maxerus: His first appearence is being captured and most other appearences, he is baged on how weak he is
  120. Pr★fessor zamuil: for skrelp?
  121. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Nah Negit I like as a Shelgon
  122. Gym Le★der Maxerus: yes for Skrelp
  123. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The Pokemon fits perfect
  124. Pr★fessor zamuil: skrelp..... hmm
  125. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I just need a name...or just keep it Sheldon
  126. Pr★fessor zamuil: don't keep it sheldon
  127. Pr★fessor zamuil: it wouldnt make sense
  128. Pr★fessor zamuil: Sid
  129. Gym Le★der Maxerus: There we go!
  130. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Here I'm gonna write this down
  131. Pr★fessor zamuil: Cool
  132. Pr★fessor zamuil: Hope my ideas help some
  133. Gym Le★der Maxerus: They did a lot!
  134. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Thanks :P
  135. Pr★fessor zamuil: My pleasure :P
  136. Pr★fessor zamuil: Btw I claim the right to read this once your done
  137. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Both?
  138. Pr★fessor zamuil: yes
  139. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Lol all right. I'm trying to think of how to do it in 3rd person
  140. Gym Le★der Maxerus: 3rd person limited
  141. Pr★fessor zamuil: hm..
  142. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The old versions were in 1st person
  143. Pr★fessor zamuil: o. that will be a difficult switch
  144. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah but it could help with things like battle scenes and stuff
  145. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Idk I'll write the the first couple of chapters in each
  146. Gym Le★der Maxerus: OR
  147. Pr★fessor zamuil: definitly makes it easier for battle scenes
  148. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I'll find the old versions and remaster them to 3rd and see which looks better
  149. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah there are old versions to these if you want to look at them. By old, the only difference is really my writing style
  150. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  151. Pr★fessor zamuil: zamuilarmagedon@gmail.com
  152. Pr★fessor zamuil: if you need to contact me
  153. Gym Le★der Maxerus: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9151282/1/Pokemon-Mystery-Dungeon-Explorers-of-Spirit
  154. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Spirit
  155. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Wait...
  156. Pr★fessor zamuil: I'll read it once it loads XD
  157. Gym Le★der Maxerus: No this is a half attempt at a reboot...
  158. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I have a paste somewhere with a much longer old version
  159. Pr★fessor zamuil: ?
  160. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  161. Gym Le★der Maxerus: This has gone througgh several reboots due to improvements in my writing skills
  162. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  163. Gym Le★der Maxerus: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8825836/1/Metroid-Luminious
  164. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Metroid: Luminious
  165. Gym Le★der Maxerus: People say the Metroid one is incredible, but I don't liek it so far
  166. Pr★fessor zamuil: my internet sucks. Give me a few weeks I'll let you know what I thought of the fanfics XD
  167. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Lol well they aren't that wlong...they were never finished...
  168. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  169. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Literally, this isn't story telling. It's giving thoughts in my head that entertained me throughout Middle School on last chance on having life
  170. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I mean they will never be real video games
  171. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Might as well be stories
  172. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok so the metroid one is interesting, I'd definitely finish reading the rest of it, but the dream prologue is cliche :P
  173. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Lol yeah it was more of a pilot for atmosphere testing
  174. Gym Le★der Maxerus: A dark Mystery Dungeon atmosphere is still not as dark as a Metroid Prime feel
  175. Gym Le★der Maxerus: http://pastebin.com/2MFubSeU
  176. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Spirit
  177. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Note I'm sure you'll notice about characters
  178. Gym Le★der Maxerus: For the most part, there is no middle ground for sanity. Every character is either portrayed as normal, down to earth, and sane or just plain off the wall out there
  179. Pr★fessor zamuil: Ok, one thing you HAVE TO FREAKING DO is have him meet his Drapion in the pokemon world o.o
  180. Pr★fessor zamuil: please make it happen
  181. Gym Le★der Maxerus: ...that would be heartfelt...
  182. Pr★fessor zamuil: I like the unkown scene, but the fact that they all of a sudden say "Save me" while being so calm before kinda loses the effect I thinkl
  183. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Oh and for the paste, there is a different intro. The one on fanfic.net is OBVIOUSLY better
  184. Gym Le★der Maxerus: What do you mean?
  185. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Like explain lol
  186. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well for that, I think this may answer. The Unknown aren't wanting to be saved. The "spirit" is
  187. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The spirit is just telling the Unown to communicate for it
  188. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok so the unknown communicate for the spirit.
  189. Pr★fessor zamuil: wait nvm
  190. Pr★fessor zamuil: I misread
  191. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Everything the spirit is "saying" is being spelt by the Unown
  192. Pr★fessor zamuil: then why the spirit's actually voice at the end?
  193. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Idk just how I wanted to end it
  194. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Should I leave that out and turn it to a scream or yell
  195. Pr★fessor zamuil: I'd sugest making it a whisper or a rasp
  196. Pr★fessor zamuil: like it's taking all its strength to utter the message
  197. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Which is why it is primarily communicating via Unown
  198. Gym Le★der Maxerus: There that works perfect
  199. Pr★fessor zamuil: Glad you approve
  200. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Lol thanks for all the help so far
  201. Pr★fessor zamuil: My pleasure
  202. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Now as for Drapion...
  203. Pr★fessor zamuil: I guess this makes me your editor?
  204. Pr★fessor zamuil: Call it Drake
  205. Pr★fessor zamuil: simple sweet easy to remember
  206. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Sure why not! I'd love an editor
  207. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah that'd work
  208. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But implementing...
  209. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I want it to be something big, but as I said, any change is hard because it's been finalized for so long
  210. Pr★fessor zamuil: Have him meet him towards the end of the story
  211. Pr★fessor zamuil: or you could get very creative
  212. Pr★fessor zamuil: you know the hero's journey right?
  213. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Like my hero's journey?
  214. Pr★fessor zamuil: and one of teh final steps is "atonement witht eh father":
  215. Gym Le★der Maxerus: What?
  216. Pr★fessor zamuil: uhm.. its a plot graph basically
  217. Pr★fessor zamuil: elements included in most Hero stories
  218. Gym Le★der Maxerus: What are they?
  219. Pr★fessor zamuil: gimme a sec, I'll shoot you a link
  220. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Ok
  221. Pr★fessor zamuil: http://www.thewritersjourney.com/hero%27s_journey.htm
  222. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hmm well at first glance, it seems in my story, there will be a large jump between 1-2 or just the order is jumbled
  223. Pr★fessor zamuil: 1-2 being chapters scenes, what?
  224. Gym Le★der Maxerus: No the ideas on that page
  225. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  226. Pr★fessor zamuil: o random other suggestion
  227. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Cause he never is really called to a journey...he's sort of thrown in and with his personalty, volunteers to help the girl
  228. Pr★fessor zamuil: called is figurative
  229. Pr★fessor zamuil: not nesacarily hey you go do this
  230. Pr★fessor zamuil: but hey there's a need for so'meone to do this
  231. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I see.
  232. Pr★fessor zamuil: nad when talking to the spirit and asking how do I go home
  233. Pr★fessor zamuil: I think a better response would be a more cryptic one
  234. Gym Le★der Maxerus: WAIT THIS IS MY STORY THEN
  235. Pr★fessor zamuil: "There is no way" Instead of you can't, sorry
  236. Pr★fessor zamuil: :P
  237. Pr★fessor zamuil: sorry
  238. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Ordinary World: His human world and life
  239. Pr★fessor zamuil: just trying to throw in suggestions
  240. Gym Le★der Maxerus: No this is helping lol
  241. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok cool
  242. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Call to Adventure: His abrupt throw into the PMD world
  243. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Refusal of Call: ...I may have to throw that in...
  244. Pr★fessor zamuil: Idea:
  245. Pr★fessor zamuil: While in real world
  246. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Meeting the Mentor: Joining the guild and meeting Voltier
  247. Gym Le★der Maxerus: yeah?
  248. Pr★fessor zamuil: have him be in a situation where he could of helped someone
  249. Pr★fessor zamuil: as refusal of call
  250. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Oh idea
  251. Pr★fessor zamuil: and then when he goes into poke world
  252. Pr★fessor zamuil: when he helps teh girl
  253. Pr★fessor zamuil: it will highlight the change in his personality
  254. Pr★fessor zamuil: or whatver
  255. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Have that and in Chapter 2, instead of just deciding to help Rachael, think about not doing it for a while then decide to
  256. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah basically that lol
  257. Pr★fessor zamuil: Yup
  258. Pr★fessor zamuil: Rachael=Evee?
  259. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yes
  260. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Daughter of famous explorers
  261. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Desperately wants to get into guild
  262. Pr★fessor zamuil: I see. And the guild is?
  263. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Passed test, but rejected due to lack of partner
  264. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Similar to the Wigglytuff one, but different people and location
  265. Pr★fessor zamuil: Ok
  266. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The beginning is like a remix of PMD2, but then it branches off, but you see a small parallelism to it
  267. Gym Le★der Maxerus: There's still a guild
  268. Gym Le★der Maxerus: There's still an expedition
  269. Gym Le★der Maxerus: There's still something to collect to save the world
  270. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But everything in between is nothing close to it
  271. Pr★fessor zamuil: ahuh
  272. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But yeah that is a cool idea to do to show rowth
  273. Pr★fessor zamuil: glad you liked
  274. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Crossing the Threshold: Much later on, the concept of the imbalance in the world causing wild pokemon to be violent is introduced
  275. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Much later as in never made it that far in writing
  276. Pr★fessor zamuil: lol yea
  277. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Like this is about mid way in the story...of over 27 dungeons
  278. Pr★fessor zamuil: if you go with my growth idea tho, you can have multiple poke parraleling his people friends
  279. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well he didn't have people friends...
  280. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hmm...
  281. Pr★fessor zamuil: the gal he coulda saved
  282. Pr★fessor zamuil: drapion maybe being like his dad
  283. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I could implement the girl thing
  284. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The dad...there are two other drunks in the story
  285. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  286. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Samuel: Elder of Canopy Village. Old. Loves to wander
  287. Pr★fessor zamuil: what poke is he?
  288. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Sceptile
  289. Pr★fessor zamuil: I approve.
  290. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Lol
  291. Pr★fessor zamuil: (my name is Samuel no telling anyone)
  292. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Gotcha lol
  293. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well the name came from another old "game idea"
  294. Gym Le★der Maxerus: This one never really developed past the main character
  295. Gym Le★der Maxerus: "Agent S"
  296. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So I decided, a self-fulfilling homage to it
  297. Pr★fessor zamuil: haha nice
  298. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Speaking of, the other character is actually Agent S himself
  299. Pr★fessor zamuil: oo explain
  300. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Agent S: Considered the hero of the PMD world. Son of Samuel. Famed bounty hunter. Appears briefly in the expedition location, but later on plays a major role in the liberation of Canopy Village from Maxerus' rule
  301. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Also a Sceptile
  302. Pr★fessor zamuil: Maxerus, you're making yourself a villain?
  303. Gym Le★der Maxerus: (Note: The original Agent S: hero from the future that came back to save us from a dragon demi-god that threatened world domination. Basically, I transplanted his abilities and personality to PMD world)
  304. Gym Le★der Maxerus: No no no.
  305. Gym Le★der Maxerus: My name CAME from the villain
  306. Pr★fessor zamuil: Ah
  307. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The Villain came first. All my PS names are OC's from stories
  308. Agent S: Exhibit A
  309. Pr★fessor zamuil: lol
  310. Pr★fessor zamuil: I see
  311. Agent S: Agent S was registered on May 21, 2012 .
  312. S-kul: Another example
  313. S-kul: <---- Main foe/later friend in Metroid Luminious
  314. Pr★fessor zamuil: lol
  315. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Maxerus was just the most bad ass
  316. Pr★fessor zamuil: Nice
  317. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But so yeah maybe an allusion to his father in one of the two Sceptiles
  318. Pr★fessor zamuil: in the wanderer
  319. Pr★fessor zamuil: and forge a kinship b/t main char and the son
  320. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well if you read toward the end of the Paste, the kinship is started
  321. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  322. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I just need to continue it in the final events leading to the finale
  323. Pr★fessor zamuil: Alright, what is teh finale btw?
  324. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well ok remember the items I said needed to save the world
  325. Pr★fessor zamuil: nope
  326. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Gym Le★der Maxerus: There's still an expedition
  327. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Gym Le★der Maxerus: There's still something to collect to save the world
  328. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Gym Le★der Maxerus: But everything in between is nothing close to it
  329. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I think I mention it one more time
  330. Pr★fessor zamuil: a yea
  331. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Ok trying to keep this heavy spoiler free
  332. Pr★fessor zamuil: why?
  333. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well too many spoilers I'd have to explain maybe idk
  334. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But anywho
  335. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  336. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So the hero eventually collects the Space Cubes (forgot the name I had...it was more badass) from their guardians (Articuno, Vasikloud, Vasiklava, Vasiklay, and Lugia (those three are fan legends that tie into the origins of the PMD world and the later mentioned Omeegans)
  337. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok yea you need to xplain the vasikl things
  338. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Basically this
  339. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Omeegans were an ancient, advanced race
  340. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Went to war with Romans
  341. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Omeegans created Vasi
  342. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Omeegans pissed off and scared the legendary pokemon by killing Arceus' son and sending him into a deep depression that later made him to cease existing in the material world
  343. Pr★fessor zamuil: woah
  344. Gym Le★der Maxerus: One day, Ho-oh and Lugia decide to destroy the entire human race
  345. Gym Le★der Maxerus: two other legends, Dracoris (fan-made) ad Giratina decide to warp all other people BUT the OMeegans to Earth and wipe their minds of the PMD world
  346. Gym Le★der Maxerus: This was the event that got Giratina banished for "bad behavior"
  347. Pr★fessor zamuil: O.
  348. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The Space Cubes were made to keep the balance between Earth and the PMD world equal
  349. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  350. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But the later imbalance caused wild Pokemon to be violent
  351. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Basically, it all wraps back
  352. Pr★fessor zamuil: so 2 questions who/what is teh spirit at the beggining,
  353. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But yeah the Vasi are just leftover, forgiven Omeggan creations
  354. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Dracoris
  355. Pr★fessor zamuil: and did the main char going to the pmd screw up the balance
  356. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Dracoris, unknown to most, had his body possessed by dark magic from Maxerus
  357. Pr★fessor zamuil: wait.
  358. Pr★fessor zamuil: A sceptile does dark magic
  359. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Maxerus is the main villain
  360. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Samuel and Agent S are the Sceptile
  361. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok but what is maxerus, what poke
  362. Gym Le★der Maxerus: THAT is one spoiler I won't spoil
  363. Pr★fessor zamuil: ugh it doesnt make sense tho
  364. Gym Le★der Maxerus: It will make more when you learn his origins
  365. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Maxerus lived in Rome with his trainer
  366. Gym Le★der Maxerus: When Ho-oh and Lugia went about killing people, he thought that his owner was killed when he was really warpped to Earth
  367. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  368. Pr★fessor zamuil: so why posses the guy that saved humans?
  369. Gym Le★der Maxerus: This made Maxerus hold a grudge against the legends for strutting their power
  370. Gym Le★der Maxerus: He didn't know he did
  371. Gym Le★der Maxerus: He though that Lugia and Ho-oh had killed his owner and there is no way to be certain if they did or not.
  372. Pr★fessor zamuil: then why dracoris not lugio/ho-oh
  373. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Dracoris, a younger legend, was easilly tricked. And Dracoris is also far more powerful
  374. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  375. Gym Le★der Maxerus: (this is all explaiined through lore and Maxerus himself in the story btw
  376. Gym Le★der Maxerus: (later on)
  377. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  378. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But so yeah held a grudge
  379. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  380. Gym Le★der Maxerus: "How dare you abuse power to kill innocent"
  381. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So he dwelled in Dark Magic to try to teach the legends a lesson
  382. Gym Le★der Maxerus: First attempt recorded: luring a meteor
  383. Pr★fessor zamuil: so how does he go evil if he just wants to hurt the legens
  384. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Second Attempt: Fucking up time with the recruitment of Darkrai
  385. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hmm...that one is a tricky one...
  386. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I guess due to them being worshipped by most the world, he is just against most of the world
  387. Pr★fessor zamuil: and darkrai does dreams not time
  388. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I mean Maxerus had followers
  389. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  390. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The PMD2 plot he was the main antagonist
  391. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I meant to allude to that
  392. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So yeah where were we in finale...
  393. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Ok hero returns the cubes
  394. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But the imbalance remains
  395. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  396. Gym Le★der Maxerus: While he is gone, the on going election for a new guildmaster wraps up
  397. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Terramus and Voltier (Carnivine and Voltier) get second and lose their spot to two other characters
  398. Gym Le★der Maxerus: One of these characters, unknown to readers and characters, is Maxerus
  399. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So Maxerus locks the guild in the jail underneath the city and begins to connect his lair of tunnels to the jail
  400. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  401. Gym Le★der Maxerus: With the city controlled, he goes to the nearby Tower of the Heavens and begins to summon his possessed Dracoris
  402. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The hero and partner, meanwhile, are struggling to return home without being caught by Maxerus' minions. Gettng lost in swamps, ancinet bulidings, and even getting seperated (Rachael gets captured by one of Maxerus' most hated minions, Pins (Cacturne)
  403. Pr★fessor zamuil: brb
  404. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Ok I'll type the rest here
  405. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The spirit of a Pokemon that's been helping the hero (not Dracoris but another one...helping to carry the name) materializes to help him get home
  406. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Through the Volcano, they encounter a Heatran, after defeating it, the cave they are in caves in. The hero nearly risks his life to save Heatran
  407. Pr★fessor zamuil: why doesnt he
  408. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Before he is crushed by rocks, the hero shoves the unconcious Heatran out of the way and is warpped to a new world
  409. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  410. Gym Le★der Maxerus: This world, later revealed to be the Distortion World, houses Giratina. He tells how he is a 3rd spirit that has been watching him (as shown in a couple chapters near the end of that paste) and tells how he is the real hero of the humans
  411. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  412. Gym Le★der Maxerus: He then, through a dimensional hole, sends the hero back to the PMD world. But on the wrong continent. The hero then ventures to a peak of a snowy mountain to another dimensional hole that warps him back to Canopy Village
  413. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Conveniently, right into the cell where Rachael and Agent S are held
  414. Pr★fessor zamuil: XD
  415. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah lol so Maxerus comes by and tries to show how in a twisted way, this is all dedicated to people and tries to convince the hero he should be honored by Maxerus' actions
  416. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The hero isn't convinced and attacks how immoral and deranged Maxerus' thoughts really are which gets him thrown back into the jail cell
  417. Pr★fessor zamuil: and he doesnt beat teh crap out of maxerus because?
  418. Pr★fessor zamuil: or warp out through some dimensioal whoel
  419. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The holes were placed by Giratina to get him home. Giratina also explains how random the holes are (which is why the path home was a warp to amountain then into a jail cell not right into Maxerus' presence)
  420. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And he attempts, but he is severely out-powered by Maxerus 1 on 1
  421. Pr★fessor zamuil: i see
  422. Gym Le★der Maxerus: As Pins harasses the heroes in the cell, the Heatran, now realizing who his hero is, has ventured to the location of his hero and kills Pins
  423. Pr★fessor zamuil: I gtg sorry
  424. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And fees the heroes
  425. Pr★fessor zamuil: kills thats violent
  426. Pr★fessor zamuil: Hey
  427. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Dang I almost have the email done lol
  428. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I was gonna email the rest
  429. Pr★fessor zamuil: haha that's fine
  430. Pr★fessor zamuil: go ahead and do that
  431. Gym Le★der Maxerus: (note: Pins' death isn't the first death, but is the first villain death)
  432. Pr★fessor zamuil: so I'll have perm copy
  433. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hero and Rachael: Get to the Tower of the Heavens to try to stop Maxerus and the imbalance of the world
  434. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Terramus and Voltier: Save the rest of the town and guild from the lair to organize an uprising to rid Canopy Village of Maxerus' goons
  435. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Oh ok
  436. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Hol don
  437. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  438. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Ok sent it
  439. Gym Le★der Maxerus: It's an over view of the final events
  440. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  441. Pr★fessor zamuil: I'll let you know when I get it
  442. Gym Le★der Maxerus: All right man
  443. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Did you get it?
  444. Pr★fessor zamuil: you sent it to zamuilarmagedon@gmail.com right? i didn't give you the wrong address or something?
  445. Pr★fessor zamuil: i got it
  446. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Oh ok good lol
  447. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I was checking
  448. Pr★fessor zamuil: nice.
  449. Pr★fessor zamuil: still havent told me what poke maxerus is or why its a spoiler
  450. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Cause he is literally right there the whole time
  451. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I mean I made it easy; once we get to the election, because of what I said, you should figure it out before anyone
  452. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I mean do you really want to know what it is lol?
  453. Pr★fessor zamuil: yea
  454. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Ok in the later chapter of the paste I sent, we finally meet an old friend of Voltiers'. Terrance the Mightyena
  455. Gym Le★der Maxerus: That is Maxerus
  456. Gym Le★der Maxerus: He is literally there from that point on and no one notices that he is the main villain
  457. Gym Le★der Maxerus: It even, for a moment, appears that Voltier might be Maxerus at one point
  458. Pr★fessor zamuil: Interesting
  459. Pr★fessor zamuil: and mostof teh villains are dark ty[es
  460. Pr★fessor zamuil: what type is draconis
  461. Pr★fessor zamuil: it might be interesting to make him fairy dragon
  462. Pr★fessor zamuil: which would explian his youth and power
  463. Pr★fessor zamuil: since fairy is new
  464. Gym Le★der Maxerus: That'd be awesome lol
  465. Pr★fessor zamuil: ikr?
  466. Pr★fessor zamuil: I replied to the email btw
  467. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And not all of his minons are. He has Gardevoir and Magmortar minons too
  468. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And MULTIPLE Manectric
  469. Pr★fessor zamuil: Manetric are boss
  470. Pr★fessor zamuil: Maxerus wins this one
  471. Pr★fessor zamuil: if you wanna really mess with Rachael have eveelutions be his minions too
  472. Gym Le★der Maxerus: yeah his army consists off Houndoom, Crawdaunt, Manectric, and Hydregion
  473. Gym Le★der Maxerus: That'd be odd lol
  474. Pr★fessor zamuil: lots of darks
  475. Pr★fessor zamuil: but why manectric?
  476. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Always thought it was an evil-teams Pokemon
  477. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But yeah as for Rachael
  478. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Her PERSONALITY is a honage to an amazing ex of mine
  479. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But her name is just something random. I was thinking of changing it to Orion cause it sounds less human and it was my exes middle name
  480. Pr★fessor zamuil: interesting
  481. Pr★fessor zamuil: but for something less human...
  482. Pr★fessor zamuil: Orion is a constelation
  483. Pr★fessor zamuil: soo
  484. Gym Le★der Maxerus: It works lol
  485. Pr★fessor zamuil: I guess yea
  486. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But yeah
  487. Gym Le★der Maxerus: JaQuoria was the best girl I ever had. Moraled, musical, geeky, smart, funny, loud
  488. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Sadly it ended way before it should've...
  489. Pr★fessor zamuil: how'd it end? :/
  490. Gym Le★der Maxerus: My mom is an extreme racist...JaQuoria is black
  491. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Like we had NO problems until after we broke up...it should've gone for years but oh well
  492. Pr★fessor zamuil: so your mother made you break up with her.
  493. Pr★fessor zamuil: or did she break up with you because of your mom?
  494. Gym Le★der Maxerus: my mom forced it
  495. Gym Le★der Maxerus: if you've heard me rant, my mom controls my life
  496. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I kept it a secret for 5 months...it was the best 5 months ever
  497. Pr★fessor zamuil: I've heard ya rant.
  498. Pr★fessor zamuil: Freaking sucks man....
  499. Pr★fessor zamuil: what year do you graduate?
  500. Gym Le★der Maxerus: 2015. It doesn't matter our lives are going different ways now. We are friends now (but we have our moments sometimes)
  501. Pr★fessor zamuil: Bro. IF you can stay in touch, or maybe go to college in the same town it doesnt matter "which way your life is going"
  502. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Possibly. Idk if it'd be the same. But we try sometimes
  503. Gym Le★der Maxerus: We've had other gfs/bfs after us, but we still both agree that we were eachothers best yet
  504. Pr★fessor zamuil: Its not gonna b the same. Your older, she's older, your mom won't have sway over you. It'll be different sure, but if you both want it
  505. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But yeah THAT is where it comes from
  506. Pr★fessor zamuil: there's nothing that can really stand b/t ya
  507. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So what you think of the story idea?
  508. Pr★fessor zamuil: Its got some great stuff.
  509. Pr★fessor zamuil: If you can write it to your own satisfaction, It'll come out amazing
  510. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Only issue is getting it down how I want it and getting it into 3rd
  511. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah I hope
  512. Pr★fessor zamuil: just remember your first time through is a rough draft, and don't get discouraged with it
  513. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Oh this is about to be round 4 lol
  514. Pr★fessor zamuil: its easier to write in third if you ask me
  515. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Probably. But I've been writing in 1st so much I'm worried about transitioning
  516. Pr★fessor zamuil: Hm. I wish I knew how to help you on that one.
  517. Pr★fessor zamuil: I can do it, but its hard to explain
  518. Pr★fessor zamuil: just remember to Show not Tell
  519. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I think I just need to experiment with it. And ok I'll remember
  520. Pr★fessor zamuil: Yea experimenting is goo
  521. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah I hope so.
  522. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Now Metroid tho
  523. Pr★fessor zamuil: yea?
  524. Gym Le★der Maxerus: That is complete in my head. Just needs to be put down
  525. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Everything but the map of the world is down on paper
  526. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And you thought Maxerus' identity was a plot twist
  527. Pr★fessor zamuil: Not really
  528. Pr★fessor zamuil: Man's best friend
  529. Pr★fessor zamuil: friend of Roman's worst of humanity or whatver
  530. Pr★fessor zamuil: wants revenge
  531. Pr★fessor zamuil: small twist but a respcetable one :P
  532. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well yeah. But I mean to the Pokemon of the story, they have no clue who this creature is. And they even call him a best friend
  533. Pr★fessor zamuil: what is his name before they realize who he is
  534. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Terrance
  535. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Just an old friend of Voltier's
  536. Pr★fessor zamuil: Interesting
  537. Pr★fessor zamuil: If you want a sequel....
  538. Pr★fessor zamuil: :P
  539. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And all the "masked scenes" that have Maxerus in them hint he is canine
  540. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So Voltier is suspected for a while
  541. Pr★fessor zamuil: But you have manetric
  542. Pr★fessor zamuil: so that's another thing
  543. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well I have a skeleton for a sequal
  544. Pr★fessor zamuil: they'll expect
  545. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And there is an Arcanine later on
  546. Gym Le★der Maxerus: There's another
  547. Gym Le★der Maxerus: See it's a guess fest and Voltier is assumed at one point
  548. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But what about a sequal?
  549. Pr★fessor zamuil: Voltier was friends with Terrance
  550. Pr★fessor zamuil: canines...
  551. Pr★fessor zamuil: Voltier is now guild master
  552. Pr★fessor zamuil: Terrance dissapears.
  553. Pr★fessor zamuil: You thinking what I'm thinking?
  554. Pr★fessor zamuil: Shadow Government much?
  555. Gym Le★der Maxerus: What you mean?
  556. Pr★fessor zamuil: Voltier is still friends with Terrance
  557. Pr★fessor zamuil: and since we don't know he's dead
  558. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Yeah after all this time
  559. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Wait hold on
  560. Pr★fessor zamuil: maybe he's gotten voltier back on his side
  561. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  562. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Voltier s friends with who he thinks Terrance is; an entrapnuer who loves hotels and business in the North
  563. Gym Le★der Maxerus: He had no clue that Terrance was the 2000 year old Maxerus
  564. Pr★fessor zamuil: Ah.
  565. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Again, this will all be obvious in the story
  566. Pr★fessor zamuil: Ik
  567. Gym Le★der Maxerus: I mean the trickery in this. Agent S, the world's best bounty hunter, has drinks with Terrance on occasion
  568. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The entire world loses it's shit (as shown by the Village's reaction)
  569. Pr★fessor zamuil: Nice
  570. Gym Le★der Maxerus: when they found out it's him
  571. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But the sequal is like this so far
  572. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Ok back ground so far
  573. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Terramus and Voltier used to be a famous Rescue Team until one mission left Terramus mentally handicapped
  574. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And Lucky, the spirit that was in the statue, was a famous explorer from over 200 years ago
  575. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  576. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And the world we are in has 4 (known) cotinents. Central (where Canopy Village is and the bulk of the story takes place)
  577. Gym Le★der Maxerus: North (also called Frosticita. Where the Guild goes on an expedition. It is VERY cold here)
  578. Gym Le★der Maxerus: South (desert like. where the events of PMD 2 happened)
  579. Gym Le★der Maxerus: And East (over grown and wild. Where PMD 1 took place LONG ago)
  580. Gym Le★der Maxerus: There is a 5th that is discovered in a future spin-off starring Agent S on the SOuthern continent
  581. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  582. Gym Le★der Maxerus: AND Terramus and Voltier are revealed to be the human and wimpy partner from PMD2
  583. Pr★fessor zamuil: cool
  584. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So the second starts with Lucky, coming down to the Central Continent to recruit the heroes. He is creating an institution of the greatest explorers in the world
  585. Gym Le★der Maxerus: He takes them to the Eastern Continent (where PMD 1 took lace)
  586. Gym Le★der Maxerus: *place
  587. Gym Le★der Maxerus: To a town that isn't stated but presumed to be Pokemon Square from the first game
  588. Pr★fessor zamuil: cool
  589. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Here, Lucky builds Lucky Towers to house his champion 6 teams.
  590. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Then comes many...undeveloped as of yet missions
  591. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The grand finale; when evidence of Maxerus is found at the edge of the continent, they head to a far off island and make their way to the core
  592. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah.
  593. Gym Le★der Maxerus: There, the heroes discover, is where the mission that critically injured Terramus took place. They were sent to explore a meteor that landed on the island
  594. Gym Le★der Maxerus: This is loosely based off the interpretation of the origins of the Unova legends
  595. Pr★fessor zamuil: so if terramus is allergic to sun, whats his injury
  596. Pr★fessor zamuil: ?
  597. Gym Le★der Maxerus: A brain defect due to a powerful blast from this creature from the meteor
  598. Pr★fessor zamuil: o.
  599. Gym Le★der Maxerus: A tall Ice dragon that radiated electricity and fire (I assume you know what it is now)
  600. Pr★fessor zamuil: yup
  601. Pr★fessor zamuil: but why'd it attack
  602. Gym Le★der Maxerus: It's in a strange world it doesn't know. I haven't worked the deatils here yet
  603. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  604. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But it blasted the duo with so much energy and nearly killed both Terramus and Voltier
  605. Pr★fessor zamuil: then why'd voltier walk away with no serious injury
  606. Pr★fessor zamuil: it might make more sense that the lighjt from teh blast damaged terramus' eyes
  607. Pr★fessor zamuil: which makes him sensitive to sunlight or something
  608. Gym Le★der Maxerus: He was injured at one point. It just didn't have a lasting effect like it did Terramus
  609. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  610. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Well in the story, it's almost as if Terramus is mentally retarded at that point
  611. Pr★fessor zamuil: ok
  612. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So I'm trying to work how that happened
  613. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Maybe just enough head trauma or something
  614. Pr★fessor zamuil: Ah
  615. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But yeah then the heroes realize something
  616. Gym Le★der Maxerus: It'd make sense for the creature to attack Terramus and Voltier if it was new to the planet
  617. Gym Le★der Maxerus: But why is itstill violent nearly 30 years later?
  618. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The answer is revealed when it calls Tristan a "bastardy Mightyena"
  619. Pr★fessor zamuil: ah
  620. Gym Le★der Maxerus: (details limited)
  621. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The heroes realize that Maxerus and his Zoroark are here creating an illusion
  622. Pr★fessor zamuil: ahh
  623. Gym Le★der Maxerus: The beast notices and attacks Maxerus and the Zoroark
  624. Gym Le★der Maxerus: ...all in all, under developed story at this point
  625. Pr★fessor zamuil: a little
  626. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Nothing like the 50 character multi-dungeon trek of the 1st
  627. Pr★fessor zamuil: the zoraork illusion make sense
  628. Gym Le★der Maxerus: Oh and last help I need
  629. Gym Le★der Maxerus: A 6th gen Legend
  630. Pr★fessor zamuil: what role does it fill.
  631. Gym Le★der Maxerus: So far, the legendaries in the story are;
  632. Gym Le★der Maxerus: (idk that's the hard part...tehre are no empty roles)
  633. Gym Le★der Maxerus: gtg hold on
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