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  1. 17.43 - Setlet: Heyy
  2. 17.44 - Dennia: hi
  3. 17.44 - Setlet: As an aspiring OW pro I want to ask some questions about some team comps :3
  4. 17.44 - Setlet: Basically im not sure when to run 3 dps and when to run 2-2-2, or when to run sombra and when to run pharmercy
  5. 17.44 - Setlet: is there a meta or jsut team preference
  6. 17.45 - Dennia: The meta for pro teams is atm 2-2-2 with genji, tracer or soldier,tracer and thats preference
  7. 17.45 - Dennia: there are situations where triple dps just work better
  8. 17.45 - Dennia: and maps where sombra is really strong (2cp)
  9. 17.46 - Setlet: Should sombra be used in koth like University or Control center?
  10. 17.46 - Dennia: A good 2-2-2 team vs a sombra on koth will always win
  11. 17.46 - Dennia: The health packs are not as abusable
  12. 17.46 - Dennia: as 2cp or some payload
  13. 17.47 - Dennia: with sombra on koth your tanks die way to fast / low dps
  14. 17.47 - Dennia: you kinda need to play your ults and the point with sombra
  15. 17.47 - Dennia: and thats very hard
  16. 17.47 - Dennia: zen adds more dps to your team then you think
  17. 17.48 - Dennia: with discord + left clicks
  18. 17.48 - Setlet: Which maps should pharmercy be used on?
  19. 17.48 - Dennia: Pharmercy in eu not so popular but i have seen in it run mainly on oasis
  20. 17.48 - Dennia: some lijang maps
  21. 17.49 - Dennia: also some attacks on 2cp too try and counter sombra
  22. 17.49 - Setlet: should the genji player always be pharah
  23. 17.49 - Setlet: or can the dva play it as well
  24. 17.49 - Dennia: the stronger way imo is the dva to stay dva and the genji / soldier player go pharah
  25. 17.49 - Dennia: but i guess its a bit of preference
  26. 17.50 - Dennia: or if u think u lack dps
  27. 17.50 - Setlet: is 3dps pahrmercy viabler
  28. 17.50 - Dennia: ye just harder
  29. 17.50 - Dennia: you gotta get a frag fast
  30. 17.50 - Dennia: or your monkey will explode
  31. 17.50 - Setlet: I see
  32. 17.51 - Dennia: monkey,dva and lucio play super close in that comp and try to save eachother from dying
  33. 17.51 - Dennia: thats why its better
  34. 17.51 - Dennia: more survivability
  35. 17.51 - Setlet: shouldnt dva try to be a cuck and just be on pharmercy constasntly while your dive kills everything they see
  36. 17.52 - Dennia: I guess its a playstyle thing
  37. 17.52 - Dennia: what you can do is
  38. 17.52 - Dennia: your own pharamercy combo just hunts the other one
  39. 17.52 - Dennia: keeping them busy
  40. 17.52 - Dennia: while your other players fight point or hunt frags
  41. 17.53 - Setlet: Makes sense
  42. 17.53 - Dennia: we dont play much pharmercy
  43. 17.53 - Dennia: but thats how we do it
  44. 17.53 - Dennia: personally i think that comp is discusting
  45. 17.53 - Setlet: if we run just 2-2-2 dive versus an enemy pharmercy sohuld the dva just be a cucker
  46. 17.53 - Dennia: so annoying to deal with and play
  47. 17.53 - Dennia: hehe
  48. 17.53 - Dennia: ye
  49. 17.54 - Dennia: if you have 2-2-2 vs pharmercy
  50. 17.54 - Dennia: dva just plays matrix
  51. 17.54 - Dennia: and you try to discord enemy tanks
  52. 17.54 - Dennia: and focus them down fast
  53. 17.54 - Setlet: ye
  54. 17.54 - Dennia: sure if your soldier finds good angle on pharah or mercy he can kill them
  55. 17.54 - Dennia: but its like impossible sometimes
  56. 17.54 - Dennia: cuz of falloff damage
  57. 17.55 - Setlet: My team has had a problem with dealing with 3dps-pharmercy comps, where the enemy soldier seems like an awesome dive target but plays so well with the lucio that is just very hard to deal with
  58. 17.55 - Setlet: while we put a lot of resource dealing ith the soldier, i cant hold the pharmercy forever with my dva and they eventually frag us out
  59. 17.56 - Dennia: are you playing with genji or soldier in this case
  60. 17.56 - Setlet: we tried both
  61. 17.56 - Setlet: soldier mostly
  62. 17.56 - Dennia: to survive longer against pharmercy you need good positioning
  63. 17.56 - Dennia: and it goes the same way
  64. 17.57 - Dennia: kill the winston first
  65. 17.57 - Dennia: then move as a team to clear the soldier/lucio
  66. 17.57 - Dennia: in that comp you play like 5+1
  67. 17.57 - Dennia: your tracer should always take the 1v1 with enemy tracer
  68. 17.57 - Dennia: if he wins
  69. 17.57 - Dennia: he can go harass backline
  70. 17.57 - Setlet: ye that we actually didnt try beforer
  71. 17.58 - Dennia: cuz soldier,zen,dva,lucio never leaves eachother unless zen is super safe
  72. 17.58 - Dennia: monkey tracer has the ability to "dive"
  73. 17.58 - Dennia: but 2-2-2 with soldier is not dive
  74. 17.58 - Dennia: its a passive comp
  75. 17.58 - Dennia: like a turtle comp
  76. 17.58 - Dennia: pick a target focus it
  77. 17.59 - Setlet: monkey+tracer vs lucio+soldier is actually nota winnable fight?
  78. 17.59 - Dennia: its winnable just not favorable
  79. 17.59 - Setlet: also last question: You said tracer+genji vs tracer+soldier is a team preference, but are there maps where the other is clearly bettter
  80. 18.00 - Dennia: ye
  81. 18.00 - Dennia: alot of times maps where enemy has highground genji is better
  82. 18.00 - Dennia: flat maps and when you have highround soldier seems better
  83. 18.01 - Dennia: we ran soldier,tracer alot cuz we dont have a genji player
  84. 18.01 - Dennia: so we where sort of cucked on some maps
  85. 18.01 - Dennia: but won anyway cuz of teamplay
  86. 18.01 - Setlet: ye
  87. 18.01 - Setlet: gz on the 2nd place in contenders!
  88. 18.01 - Setlet: hopefully youll find a replacement for kodek
  89. 18.02 - Dennia: Thanks
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