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  1. [1:13:02 AM] gm in beta: hes right tho
  2. stargate is the way
  3. i just cba to use that dirty fucking unit
  4. they need to nerf it already
  5. also voidrays build so long
  6. and 1 voidray wont stop it
  7. xD
  8. so either way i think u lose third
  9. if zergs wants to kill it
  10. but oracle will force sspore
  11. so maybe not
  12. [1:13:08 AM] gm in beta: this is what romson said
  13. [8:49:26 AM] - KZY: u should learn how to beat swarm host nydus first
  14. [8:49:34 AM] - KZY: u ez bb
  15. [8:49:55 AM] - KZY: does gm come out like
  16. [8:50:01 AM] - KZY: 2 weeks after the ladder lock is done?
  17. [8:50:07 AM] - KZY: or with the season
  18. [8:56:39 AM] gm in beta: dunno
  19. [8:56:43 AM] gm in beta: and I can already beat it
  20. [8:56:47 AM] gm in beta: I went like 20 adept
  21. [8:56:48 AM] gm in beta: vs you
  22. [8:56:52 AM] gm in beta: but all you got to do
  23. [8:56:57 AM] gm in beta: is 4 shield batteries each base
  24. [8:56:59 AM] gm in beta: and arcon
  25. [8:59:08 AM] - KZY: u went 20 adept
  26. [8:59:11 AM] - KZY: because u thought it would work
  27. [8:59:14 AM] - KZY: cuz i made spines at nat
  28. [8:59:20 AM] - KZY: and u assumed my main would be empty XD
  29. [9:00:51 AM] gm in beta: no
  30. [9:00:52 AM] gm in beta: dude
  31. [9:00:54 AM] gm in beta: I played vs it
  32. [9:00:56 AM] gm in beta: the game before you
  33. [9:00:59 AM] gm in beta: I already told you it doesn't work
  34. [9:01:23 AM] - KZY: works vs you and 5.4k tosses on ladder
  35. [9:01:42 AM] gm in beta: no
  36. [9:01:44 AM] gm in beta: it works vs me
  37. [9:01:46 AM] gm in beta: when I'm trolling
  38. [9:01:52 AM] - KZY: and 5.4k eu tosses
  39. [9:02:00 AM] - KZY: you werent trolling dez i beat u and u got mad
  40. [9:02:09 AM] gm in beta: when did I get mad
  41. [9:02:10 AM] - KZY: christ ur such a baby when u lose its a vidya game
  42. [9:02:12 AM] gm in beta: lol
  43. [9:02:14 AM] - KZY: dude
  44. [9:02:34 AM] gm in beta: I'm just creating builds now
  45. [9:02:35 AM] gm in beta: anyway
  46. [9:02:43 AM] gm in beta: and it only works
  47. [9:02:44 AM] gm in beta: really
  48. [9:02:46 AM] gm in beta: vs stargate openers
  49. [9:03:05 AM] gm in beta: or robo
  50. [9:03:05 AM | Removed 9:03:13 AM] - KZY: This message has been removed.
  51. [9:03:58 AM] gm in beta: I can even prove
  52. [9:03:59 AM] gm in beta: it dies
  53. [9:04:00 AM] gm in beta: to archons
  54. [9:04:00 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  55. [9:04:10 AM] gm in beta: reason I went adept
  56. [9:04:13 AM] gm in beta: was because I was curious
  57. [9:04:20 AM] gm in beta: to see if you could kill the infestor pit before it spawned
  58. [9:04:21 AM] - KZY: then play me
  59. [9:04:27 AM] gm in beta: cant
  60. [9:04:29 AM] gm in beta: I got 400 ms
  61. [9:04:31 AM] - KZY: ye ofc
  62. [9:04:31 AM] gm in beta: gary is downloading
  63. [9:04:43 AM] - KZY: https://i.imgur.com/RaMZtgq.png
  64. [9:04:43 AM] - KZY: when did I get mad
  65. [9:05:00 AM] gm in beta: that isn't being mad
  66. [9:05:00 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  67. [9:05:04 AM] - KZY: ur mad rn
  68. [9:05:09 AM] gm in beta: not really
  69. [9:05:10 AM] gm in beta: anyway brb
  70. [9:05:27 AM] gm in beta: ive stopped trying on sc2
  71. [9:05:28 AM] gm in beta: again
  72. [9:05:29 AM] gm in beta: tbh
  73. [9:05:34 AM] gm in beta: until zerg gets fixed
  74. [9:05:47 AM] gm in beta: until then I'm just going to troll
  75. [9:05:50 AM] gm in beta: with mothership builds
  76. [9:06:10 AM] - KZY: nothing is wrong with zerg
  77. [9:06:17 AM] - KZY: european meta is just behind
  78. [9:07:07 AM] gm in beta: behind who
  79. [9:07:07 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  80. [9:07:15 AM] - KZY: korea
  81. [9:07:22 AM] gm in beta: protoss aren't winning in korea
  82. [9:07:24 AM] - KZY: http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/races/1v1/#v=2&r=2&l=-2
  83. [9:07:25 AM] - KZY: look it
  84. [9:07:25 AM] gm in beta: they are going allins
  85. [9:07:32 AM] gm in beta: they open stargate
  86. [9:07:34 AM] gm in beta: and adept allin
  87. [9:07:36 AM] gm in beta: that's all they do
  88. [9:07:40 AM] - KZY: protoss has most GMs of any race in korea
  89. [9:07:43 AM] - KZY: no its not all they do
  90. [9:07:45 AM] - KZY: u
  91. [9:07:48 AM] gm in beta: they do
  92. [9:07:50 AM] - KZY: one dimensional
  93. [9:07:51 AM] gm in beta: go watch sos
  94. [9:07:52 AM] - KZY: all the time
  95. [9:07:55 AM] gm in beta: go watch stats
  96. [9:07:58 AM] gm in beta: go watch zest
  97. [9:08:01 AM] gm in beta: you cant play macro
  98. [9:08:02 AM] gm in beta: vs zerg
  99. [9:08:05 AM] gm in beta: even romson says it
  100. [9:08:08 AM] - KZY: you can if you have good micro
  101. [9:08:09 AM] gm in beta: even 6.1k zergs say it
  102. [9:08:11 AM] gm in beta: no you cant
  103. [9:08:11 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  104. [9:08:12 AM] - KZY: dude
  105. [9:08:13 AM] - KZY: romson
  106. [9:08:14 AM] - KZY: is european
  107. [9:08:17 AM] gm in beta: ye
  108. [9:08:17 AM] - KZY: im talking about koreans
  109. [9:08:20 AM] gm in beta: which koreans
  110. [9:08:21 AM] gm in beta: are going macro
  111. [9:08:22 AM] gm in beta: then'
  112. [9:08:27 AM] - KZY: zest
  113. [9:08:29 AM] gm in beta: no
  114. [9:08:31 AM] - KZY: hero
  115. [9:08:37 AM] gm in beta: hero doesn't win anymore
  116. [9:08:37 AM] - KZY: they all-in sometimes but so does scarlett
  117. [9:08:39 AM] - KZY: i dont get the logic
  118. [9:08:42 AM] - KZY: hero is still best P
  119. [9:08:45 AM] gm in beta: no
  120. [9:08:45 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  121. [9:08:47 AM] gm in beta: zest is best
  122. [9:08:49 AM] gm in beta: stats is second
  123. [9:08:56 AM] gm in beta: then rest are pretty non existant
  124. [9:09:01 AM] - KZY: Wow
  125. [9:09:03 AM] - KZY: look at that
  126. [9:09:08 AM] - KZY: PvZ in korea master is 52.3%
  127. [9:09:10 AM] gm in beta: and zest sos and stats
  128. [9:09:11 AM] - KZY: IMBA!!!!!
  129. [9:09:16 AM] gm in beta: are all going stargate
  130. [9:09:18 AM] gm in beta: into adept allin
  131. [9:09:23 AM] - KZY: european meta is just behind
  132. [9:09:26 AM] - KZY: we foreigners are too shitty
  133. [9:09:26 AM] gm in beta: beehidn what
  134. [9:09:27 AM] gm in beta: koreans
  135. [9:09:28 AM] - KZY: to comprehend the gods
  136. [9:09:28 AM] gm in beta: are playing
  137. [9:09:29 AM] gm in beta: the same meta
  138. [9:09:30 AM] - KZY: dude
  139. [9:09:32 AM] - KZY: then why
  140. [9:09:34 AM] - KZY: is pvz winrate
  141. [9:09:36 AM] - KZY: in korea master
  142. [9:09:38 AM] - KZY: 52%
  143. [9:09:41 AM] gm in beta: because its master?
  144. [9:09:42 AM] gm in beta: and its ladder
  145. [9:09:49 AM] gm in beta: where you can have as many smurfs as you want
  146. [9:09:51 AM] - KZY: so what are u basing balance off of
  147. [9:09:52 AM] - KZY: ?
  148. [9:09:55 AM] gm in beta: tournaments
  149. [9:09:57 AM] - KZY: okay
  150. [9:09:59 AM] - KZY: in gsl
  151. [9:10:05 AM] - KZY: zerg isnt even the most
  152. [9:10:09 AM] gm in beta: yes I don't deny toss is winning
  153. [9:10:10 AM] gm in beta: but
  154. [9:10:10 AM] - KZY: and a zerg didnt win gsl last year
  155. [9:10:11 AM] gm in beta: I'm telling you
  156. [9:10:13 AM] gm in beta: they are forced
  157. [9:10:14 AM] gm in beta: to all in
  158. [9:10:17 AM] gm in beta: with stargate opener
  159. [9:10:18 AM] gm in beta: into adept
  160. [9:10:25 AM] gm in beta: that's all any toss is doing right no
  161. [9:10:26 AM] gm in beta: w
  162. [9:10:26 AM] - KZY: dude
  163. [9:10:32 AM] - KZY: i just saw gsl play macro games
  164. [9:10:33 AM] - KZY: protoss won
  165. [9:10:35 AM] gm in beta: which
  166. [9:10:36 AM] - KZY: like last week
  167. [9:10:39 AM] - KZY: ill go find them
  168. [9:10:40 AM] - KZY: i saw like 3
  169. [9:12:12 AM] - KZY: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/218044253?t=2h34m50s
  170. [9:12:17 AM] - KZY: theres a 22 minute game where P wins
  171. [9:12:22 AM] - KZY: hang on i can even bring up like
  172. [9:12:23 AM] - KZY: 5 more
  173. [9:12:25 AM] - KZY: from last week
  174. [9:12:41 AM] - KZY: the game after that is macro as well and P wins
  175. [9:12:42 AM] gm in beta: and this week?
  176. [9:12:50 AM] - KZY: what the fuck changed
  177. [9:12:51 AM] - KZY: in a week
  178. [9:12:51 AM] - KZY: ROFL
  179. [9:12:54 AM] gm in beta: 2 builds
  180. [9:12:59 AM] gm in beta: 56 drone roach speed
  181. [9:13:03 AM] gm in beta: and 2 base hydra with 2 evos
  182. [9:13:05 AM] - KZY: zerg have been doin that mate
  183. [9:13:10 AM] - KZY: just because u started to play vs it
  184. [9:13:13 AM] - KZY: doesnt mean it came out this week
  185. [9:13:19 AM] gm in beta: it came out
  186. [9:13:21 AM] gm in beta: like 2 weeks ago
  187. [9:13:23 AM] gm in beta: from elazer
  188. [9:13:28 AM] gm in beta: Koreans only just started using it recenetly
  189. [9:13:30 AM] - KZY: dude zerg have been doing 56 drone roach speed for so long
  190. [9:13:35 AM] - KZY: usually they go tunneling claws if they get storm
  191. [9:13:42 AM] - KZY: its
  192. [9:13:44 AM] - KZY: nothing new
  193. [9:13:45 AM] gm in beta: xD
  194. hydra allins very
  195. popular
  196. elazer made it popular#
  197. [9:13:51 AM] - KZY: ye hydra all ins
  198. [9:13:57 AM] - KZY: hydra all ins have been around
  199. [9:13:58 AM] - KZY: for months though
  200. [9:14:09 AM] gm in beta: who
  201. [9:14:09 AM] gm in beta: even is
  202. [9:14:12 AM] gm in beta: dokyung
  203. [9:14:12 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  204. [9:14:18 AM] - KZY: he changed his name
  205. [9:14:20 AM] - KZY: he used to be called uhhh
  206. [9:14:48 AM] - KZY: billowy
  207. [9:14:56 AM] gm in beta: so some noname
  208. [9:15:07 AM] - KZY: idk romson was bummin him hard
  209. [9:16:00 AM] - KZY: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/220382739?t=29m16s
  210. [9:16:02 AM] - KZY: this is so gay
  211. [9:17:19 AM] gm in beta: lol
  212. [9:17:22 AM] gm in beta: the link you gave me
  213. [9:17:30 AM] gm in beta: is stargate
  214. [9:17:31 AM] gm in beta: into adept
  215. [9:17:49 AM] - KZY: yeah
  216. [9:17:51 AM] - KZY: not an all-in
  217. [9:17:54 AM] - KZY: you said P was forced to all in
  218. [9:18:08 AM] - KZY: are we still havin this discussion cuz i could go get those links but im watching last night
  219. [9:18:16 AM] - KZY: foreigner meta is just behind bro
  220. [9:18:36 AM] - KZY: everyone on europe plays so defensively macro
  221. [9:18:39 AM] gm in beta: you realise
  222. [9:18:40 AM] gm in beta: that
  223. [9:18:41 AM] - KZY: no scouting
  224. [9:18:42 AM] gm in beta: its 6 base zerg
  225. [9:18:45 AM] gm in beta: vs 4 base toss
  226. [9:18:48 AM] gm in beta: in that game as well
  227. [9:18:55 AM] - KZY: yeah and P wins anyway
  228. [9:18:59 AM] gm in beta: ye by allining
  229. [9:18:59 AM] gm in beta: xD
  230. [9:19:03 AM] - KZY: 22 minutes
  231. [9:19:05 AM] - KZY: is an all in?
  232. [9:19:13 AM] gm in beta: well he cant take an expand
  233. [9:19:21 AM] - KZY: yeah so you do an attack
  234. [9:19:23 AM] - KZY: its not an all in rofl
  235. [9:19:26 AM] gm in beta: he has
  236. [9:19:27 AM] gm in beta: 55 workers
  237. [9:19:28 AM] gm in beta: to 75
  238. [9:19:35 AM] - KZY: his army will be able to trade efficiently
  239. [9:19:37 AM] - KZY: so not all in
  240. [9:19:45 AM] gm in beta: seems pretty allin to me
  241. [9:19:51 AM] - KZY: well
  242. [9:19:54 AM] gm in beta: and
  243. [9:19:56 AM] gm in beta: its scarlett
  244. [9:19:56 AM] - KZY: you also called my nydus build an all in
  245. [9:19:58 AM] - KZY: and romson said
  246. [9:19:59 AM] - KZY: it clearly isnt
  247. [9:20:03 AM] gm in beta: romson can even beat scarlett
  248. [9:20:10 AM] - KZY: scarlett
  249. [9:20:11 AM] - KZY: is gsl code s
  250. [9:20:13 AM] gm in beta: ye
  251. [9:20:13 AM] - KZY: thats enough credentials
  252. [9:20:17 AM] gm in beta: and still bronze
  253. [9:20:24 AM] - KZY: ok dez
  254. [9:20:28 AM] gm in beta: find me
  255. [9:20:28 AM] gm in beta: a pvz
  256. [9:20:31 AM] gm in beta: 2 koreans
  257. [9:20:43 AM] gm in beta: not someone like scarlett
  258. [9:20:46 AM] gm in beta: where it takes her 15 minutes
  259. [9:20:47 AM] gm in beta: to get to broods
  260. [9:20:54 AM] gm in beta: or longer than 15 mins
  261. [9:20:58 AM] - KZY: dude theres context to that game rofl
  262. [9:21:28 AM] - KZY: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2171755801h0m49s
  263. [9:21:29 AM] - KZY: there
  264. [9:21:43 AM] gm in beta:
  265. Sorry. Unless you’ve got a time machine, that content is unavailable.
  266. In the meantime, take a look at these other videos instead.
  267. [9:21:58 AM] - KZY: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/217175580?t1h0m49s
  268. [9:22:40 AM] - KZY: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/217175580?t=2h57m13s
  269. [9:22:42 AM] - KZY: heres another one too
  270. [9:22:46 AM] - KZY: both 22+ minute games
  271. [9:22:49 AM] - KZY: where the toss wins
  272. [9:22:56 AM] - KZY: from past 10 days
  273. [9:23:20 AM] - KZY: you just think eu is the shit cuz its better than NA but really its only slightly better
  274. [9:23:23 AM] - KZY: koreans are on another level
  275. [9:23:30 AM] gm in beta: Koreans are playing the same meta
  276. [9:23:33 AM] - KZY: well
  277. [9:23:36 AM] - KZY: theres two games bro
  278. [9:23:43 AM] gm in beta: ye
  279. [9:23:44 AM] gm in beta: both games
  280. [9:23:48 AM] gm in beta: stargate into adept
  281. [9:23:53 AM] gm in beta: I give it 1 week
  282. [9:23:57 AM] gm in beta: before its figured out
  283. [9:23:57 AM] - KZY: you wont play until zergs "fixed" but really its already balanced in korea
  284. [9:23:59 AM] - KZY: and hydras are already
  285. [9:24:01 AM] - KZY: getting a nerf
  286. [9:24:03 AM] gm in beta: its not balanced
  287. [9:24:03 AM] gm in beta: xD
  288. [9:24:05 AM] - KZY: in a couple weeks
  289. [9:24:08 AM] - KZY: dude how is it not balanced
  290. [9:24:09 AM] - KZY: i linked u
  291. [9:24:10 AM] - KZY: fucking
  292. [9:24:11 AM] - KZY: winrates
  293. [9:24:11 AM] gm in beta: theres been 2 builds
  294. [9:24:12 AM] - KZY: i disproved ur
  295. [9:24:13 AM] gm in beta: toss can use
  296. [9:24:14 AM] gm in beta: 2
  297. [9:24:14 AM] - KZY: no macro game bullshit
  298. [9:24:15 AM] gm in beta: builds
  299. [9:24:15 AM] - KZY: youre just bad
  300. [9:24:17 AM] - KZY: and u need to accept that
  301. [9:24:18 AM] - KZY: its not balance
  302. [9:24:20 AM] - KZY: not at our skill level
  303. [9:24:21 AM] gm in beta: I'm not even talking about myself
  304. [9:24:21 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  305. [9:24:25 AM] - KZY: you said
  306. [9:24:25 AM] gm in beta: im talking in general
  307. [9:24:26 AM] - KZY: im not playing
  308. [9:24:27 AM] - KZY: until
  309. [9:24:28 AM] gm in beta: yes
  310. [9:24:29 AM] - KZY: they fix zerg
  311. [9:24:32 AM] gm in beta: because I'm not being forced
  312. [9:24:34 AM] - KZY: but zerg isnt broken
  313. [9:24:34 AM] gm in beta: to play stargate
  314. [9:24:36 AM] - KZY: because we are behind in gsl
  315. [9:24:38 AM] gm in beta: just to be able to surive
  316. [9:24:39 AM] - KZY: we are behind on korean ladder
  317. [9:24:41 AM] - KZY: only ahead in europe
  318. [9:24:45 AM] - KZY: even on NA which doesnt mean shit but still
  319. [9:24:47 AM] - KZY: european meta
  320. [9:24:49 AM] - KZY: just favors zerg
  321. [9:24:51 AM] - KZY: defensive macro every game
  322. [9:24:53 AM] - KZY: and lack of scouting
  323. [9:24:54 AM] gm in beta: dude
  324. [9:24:56 AM] - KZY: thats zerg heaven
  325. [9:24:57 AM] gm in beta: you cant open
  326. [9:24:59 AM] gm in beta: any other tech
  327. [9:25:01 AM] gm in beta: than stargate
  328. [9:25:02 AM] gm in beta: into adept
  329. [9:25:04 AM] gm in beta: if you do
  330. [9:25:04 AM] gm in beta: you die
  331. [9:25:14 AM] - KZY: dude i play games where im restricted in my tech too
  332. [9:25:20 AM] - KZY: protoss can still make other shit work but it requires some luck
  333. [9:25:22 AM] - KZY: just like zerg
  334. [9:25:26 AM] gm in beta: no
  335. [9:25:30 AM] gm in beta: it doesn't require luck
  336. [9:25:32 AM] gm in beta: even romson said
  337. [9:25:34 AM] gm in beta: it comes down to
  338. [9:25:37 AM] gm in beta: if the zerg wants to kill you
  339. [9:25:38 AM] gm in beta: he can
  340. [9:25:43 AM] - KZY: thats what im saying u tard
  341. [9:25:47 AM] - KZY: protoss can still make other shit work but it requires some luck
  342. [9:25:50 AM] - KZY: i mean other than stargate
  343. [9:25:53 AM] gm in beta: we cant make other shit work
  344. [9:25:53 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  345. [9:25:54 AM] gm in beta: it relies
  346. [9:25:56 AM] gm in beta: on zerg
  347. [9:26:01 AM] - KZY: which is luck
  348. [9:26:03 AM] - KZY: ...
  349. [9:26:05 AM] gm in beta: well no
  350. [9:26:09 AM] gm in beta: because if zerg scouts
  351. [9:26:13 AM] gm in beta: they can react
  352. [9:26:19 AM] - KZY: scouting can be luck
  353. [9:26:25 AM] gm in beta: its not scouting luck
  354. [9:26:28 AM] gm in beta: when you are scouting a tech
  355. [9:26:31 AM] - KZY: sometimes u cant scout the back of the min line etc
  356. [9:26:38 AM] gm in beta: we cant put pylons there
  357. [9:26:42 AM] - KZY: on blackpink u can
  358. [9:26:45 AM] gm in beta: because otherwise tech comes to late
  359. [9:26:47 AM] gm in beta: no we cant
  360. [9:26:52 AM] gm in beta: because we need pylon for vision of a ling drop
  361. [9:26:58 AM] gm in beta: so unless you gateway expand
  362. [9:27:01 AM] gm in beta: which most toss dont
  363. [9:27:04 AM] gm in beta: because it puts you behind
  364. [9:27:13 AM] - KZY: u actually just patrol a probe from 2:00-2:25
  365. [9:27:15 AM] - KZY: u dont need a pylon
  366. [9:27:21 AM] gm in beta: you do need a pylon
  367. [9:27:25 AM] gm in beta: because it give longer vision
  368. [9:27:38 AM] - KZY: but yeah man koreans are next level
  369. [9:27:40 AM] gm in beta: every toss does it
  370. [9:27:43 AM] gm in beta: even koreans
  371. [9:27:45 AM] - KZY: if zerg got nerfed beyond what theyre already getting
  372. [9:27:49 AM] - KZY: zerg would get even more behind in korea
  373. [9:27:56 AM] gm in beta: they aren't behind in korea
  374. [9:27:58 AM] - KZY: hydra nerf in a week
  375. [9:28:00 AM] - KZY: yes they are
  376. [9:28:04 AM] - KZY: theyre behind in gsl and in winrates on ladder
  377. [9:28:06 AM] - KZY: i proved this
  378. [9:28:27 AM] - KZY: http://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/2018_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S
  379. [9:28:31 AM] - KZY: i guess they didnt change this
  380. [9:28:32 AM] - KZY: cuz of spoilers
  381. [9:28:37 AM] - KZY: but a LOT of zergs
  382. [9:28:39 AM] - KZY: got knocked out
  383. [9:28:51 AM] gm in beta: 3 foreign zergs
  384. [9:28:53 AM] gm in beta: are in that life
  385. [9:28:54 AM] gm in beta: list
  386. [9:29:01 AM] - KZY: scarlett is really good i think shes foreigner level
  387. [9:29:04 AM] - KZY: she lived in korea for like
  388. [9:29:06 AM] - KZY: 6 years mate
  389. [9:29:08 AM] gm in beta: ye
  390. [9:29:09 AM] gm in beta: and romson
  391. [9:29:10 AM] gm in beta: can beat her
  392. [9:29:23 AM] - KZY: probably not consistently
  393. [9:29:27 AM] gm in beta: he can
  394. [9:29:28 AM] - KZY: definitely not consistently
  395. [9:29:30 AM] - KZY: then why is he not
  396. [9:29:33 AM] - KZY: playing in gsl code s
  397. [9:29:35 AM] - KZY: ?
  398. [9:29:45 AM] gm in beta: because he doesn't like lans
  399. [9:29:58 AM] - KZY: romsons a 6.4k protoss hes good but scarletts protoss mmr is higher than that
  400. [9:30:09 AM] - KZY: and her zergs highest obviously
  401. [9:30:10 AM] gm in beta: no its not
  402. [9:30:10 AM] gm in beta: xD
  403. [9:30:11 AM] gm in beta: haha
  404. [9:30:14 AM] - KZY: its the same
  405. [9:30:15 AM] - KZY: as neeb
  406. [9:30:17 AM] gm in beta: no its not
  407. [9:30:18 AM] gm in beta: ROFL
  408. [9:30:23 AM] - KZY: thats what remek said bro
  409. [9:30:29 AM] gm in beta: well remi is wrong
  410. [9:30:32 AM] - KZY: now mmr doesnt mean shit
  411. [9:30:35 AM] - KZY: but im just saying
  412. [9:30:38 AM] - KZY: thats all romson does anyway
  413. [9:30:39 AM] - KZY: is ladder
  414. [9:30:41 AM] gm in beta: its no where near neebs level
  415. [9:30:41 AM] - KZY: so
  416. [9:30:41 AM] gm in beta: for one
  417. [9:30:57 AM] - KZY: dude
  418. [9:30:59 AM] - KZY: if they qualified
  419. [9:31:00 AM] - KZY: they qualified
  420. [9:31:15 AM] - KZY: these are the top zergs right now and they got knocked out
  421. [9:31:16 AM] gm in beta: ye but the fact even sortof
  422. [9:31:19 AM] gm in beta: can qualify
  423. [9:31:22 AM] gm in beta: should show you somethin
  424. [9:31:25 AM] - KZY: dude
  425. [9:31:25 AM] - KZY: no
  426. [9:31:45 AM] - KZY: its really not that bad
  427. [9:31:52 AM] gm in beta: hows it not that bad
  428. [9:31:54 AM] gm in beta: if toss is forced
  429. [9:31:55 AM] gm in beta: into 1 tech
  430. [9:32:05 AM] - KZY: idk man cuz u keep moving the posts
  431. [9:32:09 AM] gm in beta: its like
  432. [9:32:10 AM] - KZY: first its zerg is ahead in korea
  433. [9:32:12 AM] - KZY: then its
  434. [9:32:12 AM] gm in beta: relying on sentries
  435. [9:32:15 AM] - KZY: protoss has to all in
  436. [9:32:16 AM] gm in beta: except its another gimmick
  437. [9:32:20 AM] - KZY: then its protoss has to go stargate
  438. [9:32:23 AM] - KZY: so what u have to go stargate?
  439. [9:32:23 AM] gm in beta: yes
  440. [9:32:24 AM] gm in beta: we do
  441. [9:32:26 AM] - KZY: i gotta go hydra
  442. [9:32:30 AM] gm in beta: we are forced
  443. [9:32:34 AM] gm in beta: to go oracle
  444. [9:32:34 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  445. [9:32:35 AM] - KZY: any decent toss can counter the roach shit
  446. [9:32:38 AM] gm in beta: no
  447. [9:32:40 AM] gm in beta: they cant
  448. [9:32:41 AM] gm in beta: rofl
  449. [9:32:41 AM] - KZY: cuz most zergs
  450. [9:32:42 AM] - KZY: cant do it right
  451. [9:32:45 AM] - KZY: yes they can
  452. [9:32:48 AM] gm in beta: every zerg ive spoken to
  453. [9:32:53 AM] - KZY: which is 1 or 2
  454. [9:33:00 AM] gm in beta: more
  455. [9:33:04 AM] - KZY: o ye
  456. [9:33:04 AM] gm in beta: I play with 6.2k
  457. [9:33:05 AM] - KZY: but
  458. [9:33:13 AM] gm in beta: all have said
  459. [9:33:16 AM] gm in beta: you cant counter it
  460. [9:33:20 AM] gm in beta: with twilight
  461. [9:33:22 AM] gm in beta: or robo
  462. [9:33:24 AM] gm in beta: you have to go voids
  463. [9:33:27 AM] - KZY: so ur not playing sc2 because u gotta go stargate in pvz?
  464. [9:33:30 AM] gm in beta: ye
  465. [9:33:31 AM] - KZY: u dont even open stargate
  466. [9:33:32 AM] - KZY: u go charge
  467. [9:33:33 AM] - KZY: wtf
  468. [9:33:34 AM] gm in beta: because I don't want to play
  469. [9:33:35 AM] gm in beta: oracle
  470. [9:33:39 AM] - KZY: romson
  471. [9:33:40 AM] - KZY: never opens stargate
  472. [9:33:42 AM] gm in beta: ye
  473. [9:33:43 AM] gm in beta: and he dies
  474. [9:33:43 AM] - KZY: "and he can beat scarlett"
  475. [9:33:44 AM] - KZY: so
  476. [9:33:44 AM] gm in beta: to the same shit
  477. [9:33:48 AM] gm in beta: as I do
  478. [9:33:51 AM] - KZY: "and he can beat scarlett"
  479. [9:33:54 AM] gm in beta: ye
  480. [9:33:56 AM] gm in beta: exactly my point
  481. [9:34:03 AM] - KZY: how is that your point
  482. [9:34:06 AM] gm in beta: scarlett doesn't use her brain
  483. [9:34:07 AM] - KZY: youre saying romson isnt a good example
  484. [9:34:10 AM] - KZY: but u just discredited scarlett
  485. [9:34:10 AM] gm in beta: she only has certain mechanics
  486. [9:34:13 AM] - KZY: by sayin he could beat her
  487. [9:34:19 AM] gm in beta: no im saying scarlett is a bad zerg
  488. [9:34:28 AM] - KZY: yeah so romson could beat a code s zerg
  489. [9:34:31 AM] - KZY: so hes not a bad example
  490. [9:34:32 AM] - KZY: to follow
  491. [9:34:33 AM] gm in beta: no
  492. [9:34:34 AM] gm in beta: he couldnt
  493. [9:34:38 AM] - KZY: well
  494. [9:34:39 AM] - KZY: scarletts code s
  495. [9:34:41 AM] - KZY: so
  496. [9:34:41 AM] gm in beta: he can beat scarlett
  497. [9:34:44 AM] - KZY: dont know what to fuckin say
  498. [9:34:52 AM] gm in beta: I don't consider scarlett code 6
  499. [9:34:54 AM] gm in beta: s
  500. [9:34:56 AM] - KZY: well she is
  501. [9:35:08 AM] - KZY: so if he can beat code s zergs
  502. [9:35:11 AM] - KZY: hes a good example to follow
  503. [9:35:14 AM] gm in beta: game 2
  504. [9:35:17 AM] gm in beta: dokyung
  505. [9:35:19 AM] - KZY: and bruh he was watching ur stream
  506. [9:35:19 AM] gm in beta: vs scarlett
  507. [9:35:20 AM] gm in beta: he allins
  508. [9:35:25 AM] - KZY: and he was ranting to me (i was afk)
  509. [9:35:28 AM] - KZY: about like 10000 mistakes u do
  510. [9:35:32 AM] - KZY: we all got shit to work on
  511. [9:35:34 AM] gm in beta: ye
  512. [9:35:34 AM] - KZY: its not balance at our level
  513. [9:35:36 AM] gm in beta: I don't deny that
  514. [9:35:36 AM] gm in beta: but
  515. [9:35:39 AM] gm in beta: i refuse to play it
  516. [9:35:43 AM] gm in beta: until it gets fixed
  517. [9:35:46 AM] gm in beta: because its pointless right now
  518. [9:35:50 AM] - KZY: right dude but at our skill level it certainly isnt balance thats affecting our wins or losses can u agree on that
  519. [9:35:54 AM] - KZY: maybe a tiny tiny portion
  520. [9:35:55 AM] gm in beta: it is
  521. [9:35:57 AM] - KZY: like 5%
  522. [9:35:58 AM] gm in beta: if they can perform
  523. [9:35:59 AM] gm in beta: 1 build
  524. [9:35:59 AM] - KZY: but we arent that good
  525. [9:36:00 AM] gm in beta: correctly
  526. [9:36:02 AM] - KZY: we are shitty 5k scrubs
  527. [9:36:05 AM] gm in beta: then they will win 100% of the time
  528. [9:36:07 AM] - KZY: we arent even 5.6k
  529. [9:36:17 AM] gm in beta: im about 5.2k
  530. [9:36:21 AM] gm in beta: if i don't troll
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