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- From Aaron:
- Since you have requested a response, I shall take the time and effort to
- respond as well as I can, although due t time constraints I have decided
- to do this at work and therefore may keep some of my
- explanations/discussions short. If some of my explanations are unclear,
- feel free to request a clarification. Take note that I have every
- intention of our interaction being as frank civil as possible, but we
- obviously have a number of differences of opinion. I am also willing to
- hear whatever responses with an open mind.
- For brevity and clarity's sake I shall respond to sections of your post
- as in order as possible and reference the relevant paragraphs by number
- (the first one being paragraph 1).
- <Paragraph 1>
- I was well aware of this and in general was happy enough with it.
- <Paragraph 2>
- This was easy enough to see. There is a bit of a sticking point about
- Micolous bringing you into this without the admin's approval in regards
- to due process.
- <Paragraph 3>
- I was aware of how much work you did with him and the quality of your
- work. I would like to point out that getting to the point you brought
- everything did take you guys a lot of time and along the way not
- everything you had produced was as functional as it is now and you guys
- often did skip due process for release/testing which on a number of
- occasions broke usability (the most recent example would be switching
- the POS software over which actually caused us to have less
- functionality and due to a lack of training or demonstration resulted in
- a very steep/unpleasant learning curve). Besides this I do agree that
- you guys got some quite nice results out.
- <Paragraph 4>
- I do not agree that the LAN was quite as bad as you attest beforehand.
- We had our share of issues (some of which you mentioned) but a good
- portion of things worked sufficiently well. A portion of this can also
- be blamed on the hardware we had (we have no love for the 48 port allow
- switch anymore).
- <Paragraph 5>
- Of this I was somewhat aware, although I don't see how you can be more
- than 100% dedicated.
- <Paragraph 6-7>
- I'm not fully aware of how you and TJ/Readur interacted. I was aware
- that it was somewhat strained at times but I attributed the difficulties
- equally to both sides.
- <Paragraph 8>
- I was vaguely aware, not much made it to me that I recall.
- <Paragraph 9>
- I have heard this mentioned by both parties. While I do not condone
- stereotyping I do believe that knowing of your condition should allow
- for both sides of the communication to be aware af the differences in
- how you perceive things/interact with others and compensate for it. This
- is a strategy that I believe most people need to be aware of when
- dealing with others in general.
- <Paragraph 10>
- I was not properly aware of this. My guess is this probably went both
- ways and everyone involved in the discussion left in an unhappy state.
- <Paragraph 11>
- I can't really say much about this, as this was not something I was
- greatly aware of. All I can say is that there are a number of ways of
- documenting/communicating things and people deal with some differently
- to others, so possibly you or they may have had a difference of opinion
- on the most effective way to do this. The most I heard was that you had
- a tendency of wording things in a way that resulted in writing a lot of
- text to explain things more easily done in a small amount of text.
- Having not been involved in this I can't say much more.
- <Paragraph 12>
- I don't know the full scope of the channels you used to communicate with
- Ryan/TJ. I personally read everything posted but did not comment as it
- was not the domain I support SG in and nothing seemed to need my
- comment.
- <Paragraph 13>
- No response necessary/appropriate.
- <Paragraph 14>
- That is what you perceived of the situation but is actually not true.
- The admins took the suggestions of every party in mind in the reaching
- it's decision. While your suggestions in some ways were preferable, they
- were not possible to implement for a number of reasons and therefore we
- chose the ones that seemed most likely to succeed given our available
- knowledge. I would also like to point out that some of the information
- you provided was not correct either (at least according to other sources
- we found, maybe it was partly correct). The withdrawing of your support
- for the event is also a sticking point for many of the admins. We try to
- operate as a team and therefore take into account the
- knowledge/expertise of all members in our decisions and once a decision
- is reached we treat it as the best and give it our full support. We feel
- this is necessary in order to ensure the best outcomes possible and in
- order to remain a cohesive group. The withdrawal of support for an event
- by officer has otherwise been unheard of event and flies in the face of
- how we as a whole believe we should operate.
- <Paragraph 15>
- I do not recall our participation at AVCON going that badly. While we
- did get some complaints we also got a lot of compliments. I intend on
- working with AVCON to make things go even better in future. I do not
- recall us doing anything that would make our operations at the event
- "completely illegal". Yes, the internet did drop out a lot but when it
- worked was reasonably smooth (I had less issues signing in to steam than
- at a regular SG). I am not fully aware of all the issues but am aware
- that at least one was caused by a lanner in a way that you would have
- seen issues with as well (the network cable for the DHCP was unplugged
- and then put into the incorrect port, meaning that nobody could get DHCP
- since the backbone was set to drop all relevant packets from any port
- but that one). We did have low attendance, which can be attributed for a
- number of reasons including there being a number of competing events and
- people having competing plans for that weekend. I have heard there were
- also a number of rumours spread in order to try to lower our
- attendance/reputation but as I have not been presented with any evidence
- I am treating it as hearsay.
- <Paragraph 16>
- Some can (supposedly there were some reliability issues with the signal
- used for our internet, aforementioned DHCP issue), some I admit cannot.
- While most of the networking infrastructure was the same, the internet
- end was not so that is not entirely true.
- <Paragraph 17>
- That is not necessarily a correct inference. Even having the same
- hardware would not mean this as they had to set up appropriate software
- correctly which takes a lot of time and effort to get right. I am aware
- of how much time was devoted to the development of the software
- solutions used and of the testing involved. Might I point out that not
- all of the software you and Micolous developed worked correctly first
- time?
- <Paragraph 18>
- We did realise how dependant on you we had become. This was a
- double-edged sword as though we know you guys can do a good job, we are
- also now painfully aware of how you will choose to react when the admin
- team as a whole make a decision that you do not like. This does not sit
- well with a number of us. I would also like to think that I have in
- general acted in a way that does not imply I think of you as evil and
- have generally tried to be as friendly/understanding as possible.
- <Paragraph 19>
- I have not suspected you of lies, but have no evidence to support that
- idea in either way. I cannot recall any occurence where you did not show
- those qualities, but I do recall that there have been situations where
- your incorrect actions/mistakes could have been avoided which I'd rather
- not dwell on. You guys have done a great job of supporting us which is
- why we voted to give you the benefits we have on your departure from our
- organisation.
- <Paragraph 20>
- I cannot think of a situation where I have been involved in such things
- and for the most part believe that statement is untrue. There are
- examples where each of these has occurred but on the most part this is
- not how I see SG run.
- <Paragraph 21>
- I believe that a good number of us still listened to what you guys had
- said at the meeting. It was however impossible for us to act upon much
- of it immediately given the nature of the admin only meeting occurred
- afterwards.
- <Paragraph 22>
- I have not intentionally avoided talking to people on IRC but due to my
- work/lifestyle commitments I have not been able to be involved on the
- discussion there much. It can also be difficult to maintain interest in
- reading the conversation when some of the material is on topics I am not
- interested in (WoW, etc). As far as I'm aware, those channels to which
- you refer were not set up by our admins but rather by other members of
- the SG community.
- <Paragraph 23>
- There is a reason why we "sanitised" the documents - some of it was not
- relevant to your understanding of what occurred (in particular, we could
- filter out some data that would paint the entire document in an
- incorrect light) and some of it was not appropriate to be released
- outside of the committee. I am perfectly happy to discuss with you my
- thoughts on the matter if you would like.
- <Paragraph 24>
- I try not to show a double-standard as much as possible. I have on
- occasion been known to upset other admins by enforcing the rules equally
- on them. I am aware that I may not act 100% perfectly but I do try to
- and sometimes due to circumstances I may lose the self control that I
- should maintain, which is an unfortunate thing.
- <Paragraph 25>
- I have not seen such things myself. If you are referring to Narthollis
- then I would like to point out he is a life-time member which he paid
- for some time ago. I would also like to point out that you yourself have
- on numerous occasions been put through on a free ticket when the
- committee had not decided to grant this to you. Maybe you deserved it at
- the time, but no submission for such a treatment was put forward to the
- admin team for this to occur.
- <Paragraph 26>
- While I am aware that this has ocurred in the past and that I am guilty
- of it as well, in recent times I have made every effort to cause this to
- cease occurring. There is however nothing stopping people going to a
- nearby location offsite and doing so. I also do not check every location
- where this may occurr.
- <Paragraph 27>
- I have not been aware of this in recent times and have not ever done
- such a thing myself. I would not be happy with whoever may do this,
- admin or not.
- <Paragraph 28>
- We did not introduce them ourselves. We were directly approached by G4C
- for the right to speak at our event and told them to keep it as
- unpolitical as possible. A number of the admins are greatly opposed to
- appearing to have a political leaning, myself included.
- <Paragraph 29>
- That is not uncommon for a number of types of organisation. We feel that
- the majority of us have proved appropriate to remain as admins and we do
- have a procedure for ensuring that those who should not remain adins
- shall not. When we see the need to increase our base of admins, we
- choose people from the community who appear appropriate for the role and
- have proven that they are capable of filling it. There are a number of
- criteria used in regards to this that are not always obvious. This
- approach in general has worked reasonably well for us (I was acting in
- an admin-like role for at least a year before I became one and was
- chosen specifically because of that).
- <Paragraph 30>
- Most of this seems to be just pointless insults based on
- misunderstandings/generalisations.
- <Paragraph 31>
- I am not saying that you are the cause of all of our problems and most
- of the admins would agree with that sentiment. There is however a
- distinct difference in how interactions seem to occurr between
- yourselves and the admins and how most of us in general interact which
- causes a number of unfortunate issues. There are also a few idealogical
- differences between some of us and yourselves that are proving difficult
- difficult to surmount. We therefore decided that it would likely be in
- our better interest as a whole to not continue the situation preceeding
- our current one. The reason the meetings to discuss your membership in
- our organisation seemed secretive or conspired was because we believed
- that it would be more appropriate to discuss these things without
- yourselves present. The intention was that we would fully document our
- reasonings and decisions then give you the ability to respond. This
- intention was not able to be followed correctly as your resignation
- occurred during the course of the meeting, resulting in us needing to
- take a different course of action.
- <Paragraph 32>
- That is your choice.
- I would like to think that I have done a reasonably good job acting
- morally and ethically in my participation with SG and the running
- organisation. I regret that the situation has come to this but through
- my actions/inactions and those of others the situation has panned out in
- a less than optimal manner. While I may not do a good job of showing it,
- I am deeply thankful for the help you and Micolous have provided to our
- organisation, as I am to all who willingly give their time to help us
- out. I had hoped the situation could result in the seperation of
- yoursleves from our organisation in an amicable manner.
- I wish you well in your endeavors, excepting those that are against
- myself or SG.
- Regards
- Aaron Dan Frishling (jihad jesus)
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