basicYesterday at 7:19 PM
we need to talk
GuyYesterday at 7:19 PM
Ok?
basicYesterday at 7:20 PM
i don’t understand why you keep attacking me
GuyYesterday at 7:23 PM
Want my honest answer? I just frankly don't like your attitude. I haven't like it since last year, and when you rejoined this year let's just say I wasn't exactly the most ecstatic. While others forgave your past actions, I didn't. You didn't really change at all from the past imo, and I say what I say cause it's what I think.
basicYesterday at 7:27 PM
and the thing about that is that i haven’t really had an attitude at all
i said so many hurtful things about so many people last year, and i’ve changed a lot from that
but it’s nice to know that you don’t want me on the server, i’ll keep that in mind
GuyYesterday at 7:32 PM
If I am being honest, you haven't. You restrain from saying it in a staff chat/general, but tbh when it gets into a VC, it just seems that NOTHING has changed. Even when their is nothing going on. You seem to be, quite frankly, unchange from before. You haven't done much to show change at all, despite acting, what imo is fake considering the a quite drastic change in personality from call to chat. And frankly, I don't want a lot of people in the server, but I deal with it. I still make my thoughts open all the time about these people as well sooooooo :shrug:
basicYesterday at 7:32 PM
and what exactly have i done in voice chats?
GuyYesterday at 7:34 PM
You have disrespected multiple members, members of staff, use rather terrible WC, and others that I am sure if you think about it you probably can figure out on your own.
basicYesterday at 7:34 PM
i really haven’t disrespected any members of staff
if you could please explain, that’d be great
GuyYesterday at 7:38 PM
The situation with Leilanie that you mentioned in call. I asked Leilanie for her dms with you, and while yes it was a bit snarky, you made it sound as if she was being an actual asshole to you, when in reality they weren't. You literally said "she was attacking me" and yet she literally wasn't. You said, and this is not exactly word for word but as close as I can remember, that she said "Why the fuck did you snitch on me to Kalani?" when that choice of words makes her seem like a much worse person, which frankly was not what she said. You are hypocritcal in general as well. You have done those similar esque snarky comments that she has done to others, and yet you are the one that got offended by them.
basicYesterday at 7:39 PM
and that is literally only one situation
and also, i said that she said that what i did was “fucked up”
and i never made it seem like she was bullying me, i just told kalani that i didn’t like her attitude
GuyYesterday at 7:43 PM
Something I forgot to mention, is that your actions in the server have also not really be that great. You literally deleted someone else warning just to warn someone. You said that it was a joke, but neither of those members were frankly humored by it. There were other experiences of it as well. And I never said that you made it seem like you were bullying her? I know you are looking back into your dms with her, and I 100% remember you saying stuff about the word "fuck" and snitching on me to Kalani. I remember because I sent it to Kalani because I know that he was also dming Leilanie about the situatio, and I wanted to see if it lined up. You also had that scenario with AN, that I don't think I need to explain really since you are aware of it.
basicYesterday at 7:44 PM
in the situation with andrew, i literally thought that it was all a joke
nothing that i was saying to him was serious
i mean, you say rude things to him all of the time as well, and you’re apparently only ever joking
and, yes, the word “fuck” is in “fucked up”
and i’ve also never deleted someone’s warning to warn them myself
GuyYesterday at 7:46 PM
Sorry by warning I meant message that was sent in roleplays to move since people were still talking
basicYesterday at 7:46 PM
and that was sent by llama
and it was all just a joke, we were literally in a call with each other
GuyYesterday at 7:47 PM
I don't think one of those parties was frankly fine with the joke
basicYesterday at 7:47 PM
and why do you think that?
GuyYesterday at 7:47 PM
Cause they dm'd me about the situation
I don't feel like I have to tell you with person said what. Not my place to tell you
basicYesterday at 7:49 PM
and i also deleted my message
i’m sorry, but it really isn’t your place to tell me if i’ve changed or not from last year
sure, i’ve made some mistakes, but that’s what people do
GuyYesterday at 7:51 PM
Well, if you haven't changed, I don't think its best for you to say you have.
basicYesterday at 7:51 PM
that’s just your opinion
in my opinion, i’ve changed
GuyYesterday at 7:51 PM
Well, you haven't really shown that you have
Personal trauma should not really be an excuse for being a dick? If that is actual apart of the reasoning, then it's you placing the blame on something else. Of course, it's an awful situation. But it's not something that will make me think more highly of you or think that this is why you are acting the same way you have the past 2 years?
basicYesterday at 7:54 PM
and i definitely haven’t been acting the same way for the past 2 years
me barely talking about leilanie doesn’t nearly compare to the things that i’ve said and done in the past
GuyYesterday at 7:55 PM
Ill just say one more thing. I know what I said. I typed it the moment I heard it to Kalani. I have no reason to lie to him. He knows I am not a fan of you. I have 0 reason to lie about something a person has said to someone else. With the Andrew situation, he literally implied and I believe expressed that he didn't like what you were saying to him even before the situation in a call we were in. In dms. You did the same stuff to him from the call the day of the general incident. You did apoligize after, but it doesn't really excuse it.
basicYesterday at 7:56 PM
andrew never told me that he didn’t like what i was saying in dms
GuyYesterday at 7:56 PM
He did
I am looking at the dms right now.
He was literally saying how he was "defending himself" from you, and how he didn't like it? He said you went too far in the dms itself-
basicYesterday at 7:58 PM
could you please send them to me
GuyYesterday at 7:58 PM
You have the dms
basicYesterday at 7:58 PM
and i’d like you to send them to me
GuyYesterday at 7:59 PM
You can literally go to your dms with Andrew and find it. June 5th, around I think like 12 pm your time
14th**
not 5th
basicYesterday at 8:00 PM
sorry, i can’t find what you’re talking about
if you could please send them to me, that’d be great
GuyYesterday at 8:01 PM
There are multiple screenshots. I don't see why you are unable to check your dms with him? I don't think you two dm much at all??
basicYesterday at 8:01 PM
i just want you to send them to me
GuyYesterday at 8:01 PM


there are multiple, but I want to know why you sent them to me?
i mean
why you want me to send them to you*
there are more**
basicYesterday at 8:02 PM
okay now where was i going too far
GuyYesterday at 8:02 PM
one sec
its in
the second one
basicYesterday at 8:02 PM
and what was it
GuyYesterday at 8:03 PM
I don't remember the exact scenario exactly lol
I would ask AN but he is offline
basicYesterday at 8:03 PM
and also, where did he tell me that he was offended by what i was saying
GuyYesterday at 8:03 PM
I think its implied with the wording of those messages? "You went too far" "I was defending myself"
basicYesterday at 8:04 PM
and that was after i knew that he wasn’t just joking around
GuyYesterday at 8:05 PM
Except he also, I believe days prior, showed visible disdain in your actions when he left call because of your jokes in the GC-
basicYesterday at 8:06 PM
but he never just told me directly
GuyYesterday at 8:06 PM
A lot of times people don't want to express their feelings directly. It was heavily implied that he did not like what was said, considering he left a call and didn't give his BEST FRIEND Kalani a reason as to why in the GC.
basicYesterday at 8:06 PM
but how would i know that that was about me?
like to told him, i barely know him as a person
GuyYesterday at 8:07 PM
You were making rude comments about him, he left the call when they were being made, and didn't specify a reason when asked for by his best friend who he tells everything to
basicYesterday at 8:08 PM
and you’ve said so many rude things to him as well
but they were all just “jokes”
GuyYesterday at 8:08 PM
And like I have said before, that is literally our dynamic? I make it aware to him in dms that it is a joke
and that
he knows it is, he does the same back.
basicYesterday at 8:08 PM
and yet he was literally doing the same thing back to me
GuyYesterday at 8:09 PM
Because he thought you were being serious because you did the same thing from before and like he said he was defending himself?
basicYesterday at 8:09 PM
and that’s exactly why i thought that the whole thing was just a joke
i’m sorry, but you’re guilty of doing the same exact thing that i was doing
it’s just, for me, andrew didn’t know that i was joking
and i didn’t know that he wasn’t joking
GuyYesterday at 8:10 PM
How am I guilty of doing the EXACT same thing when I he is aware of it? He was not aware of it about you at all. He was already visibly not fond of your comments days prior, and you did it days after?
basicYesterday at 8:11 PM
exactly, but i just didn’t know that he was actually offended by what i was saying
i made a mistake, and i’ve already apologized to andrew
i never meant to actually hurt him, and it definitely wasn’t me acting like i did last year
i’m going to sleep, i’ll talk to you about this tomorrow
GuyYesterday at 8:13 PM
You, like I have said before, haven't really shown that you are acting different from last year either...That is how you show change. Your actions in calls were similar to calls from last year where I knew you didn't change from the year prior. That is frankly all I have to say.
basicYesterday at 8:14 PM
that’s fair, but i’ve changed, and i can promise you that
GuyYesterday at 8:15 PM
Razor said the same thing and he ended up getting banned again :shrug: If you are able to show it I'll believe it.
basicYesterday at 8:15 PM
have a good night
basicToday at 6:46 AM
i don’t understand how you can nearly compare my one “action” in a call, being barely talking about leilanie, to what i’ve said and done in the past 2 years. i mean, telling me that i think that i’m good at everything and that i’m actually just a bitch really wasn’t the nicest thing either. that wasn’t very respectful to me at all, and, quite frankly, i’d call it badmouthing. i don’t understand how you can dare to tell me that i’m just acting. sure, i’ve made one or two mistakes in the past few weeks, but, like i’ve said before, they don’t nearly add up to my past actions.
GuyToday at 6:50 AM
The thing is, if the action has come at all, it doesn’t show any improvements from the past. And when I said “in calls” I didn’t mean just the leilanie thing. Your attitude and personality in general in calls is frankly unchanged from last year. I’ve have had other people echo similar opinions about that as well. And, frankly, you do act that way. You act as if you have this power or whatever above people and think you are good at everything/always right. Again, not an opinion that is shared by just me. You can say you haven’t done nearly the same thing as last year, but you have acted similarly to before many of those actions were made. Even last year you didn’t  do awful things in your first few weeks. That’s why you got admin. But this is very similar to before it happened. I noticed before that you didn’t seem unchanged, and then once you became admin it got much worse. Your behavior before that, while improved somewhat, is still similar to before it got worse last year.
basicToday at 6:58 AM
i really don’t think that i’m better than everyone else. the only two times that you’ve attacked me were when i was joking about me and henrry being good at the game and when you died in bed wars. i don’t understand how you can tell me that i have an attitude and a bad personality in calls when literally the whole time we’re just playing games on hypixel, and i’m literally only screaming and joking around when i die. if you’re trying to tell me that telling another player to stop throwing fireballs is having an attitude, then okay.
GuyToday at 7:02 AM
I was told that you were frankly acting the same after I left? And that really wasn’t the reason I “attacked” you. I’ve felt that was about you before that and chose that as the time to do it. I am saying that you were being hella hypocritical, and that is just one example that is recent at it LOL. You act like I am the ONLY person who thinks that you have a bad attitude. News flash, I’m not. The times I’ve attacked you have very little to do with only being caused by those situations. Both times I had to leave and got slightly annoyed at you, so I decided to say what I wanted to say towards you. I personally think this entire discussion is going no where. Neither of us will change our mind about this.
basicToday at 7:03 AM
and who else thinks that i have a bad attitude?
GuyToday at 7:03 AM
I am in no place to tell you who. If they want you to know you have one, they will let you know.
basicToday at 7:04 AM
i mean, i’d just really like for you to tell me. you can’t just sit here and degrade me and taunt that other people agree with you without telling me who.
GuyToday at 7:06 AM
Except, it’s not degrading or taunting. You were assuming my thoughts were unjustified and I said I received complaints about you that were similar to mine. It’s not taunting, it’s not degrading. It’s just saying I’m not the only one who thinks this. I said this before, and I’ll say it again. If you really think you have changed, you can think that. But you really haven’t acted as if anything was different at all.
basicToday at 7:25 AM
i’ve asked henrry and ivan, and they both have said that they don’t feel that way
GuyToday at 7:25 AM
Ok?
basicToday at 7:26 AM
the only other people that play minecraft with us are sophie and kalani
GuyToday at 7:26 AM
Not saying just MC...there have been multiple other calls
basicToday at 7:27 AM
okay so then andrew is one of those people, he’s the only other person that i’ve talked to
GuyToday at 7:54 AM
:shrug:
basicToday at 7:59 AM
i don’t think you actually realize that your words hurt
GuyToday at 8:00 AM
And I don't think you realize the same either? I realize that it can hurt, but if its those words that get people to realize what they are doing, then I think that's fine since it allows people to see that they, frankly, have a bad attitude. There would have been very few other plausible ways for me to get the same message off to you.
basicToday at 8:02 AM
except the other people that i’ve talked to, on a daily basis, don’t seem to think that i have a bad attitude
GuyToday at 8:03 AM
except, how do you know that those two are telling you the truth lmfao? Most people in the server are not gonna say you have a bad attitude if you ask them. Very few are actually open enough to say that.
basicToday at 8:04 AM
well, i mean, i don’t think that henrry was lying, feel free to tell me otherwise
GuyToday at 8:04 AM
I don't know either thoughts, but if you really think they would for sure respond truthfully if they agreed that you had a  bad attitude, then go ahead and think that.