Sam8940
May 6, 2011 - 7:14 pm Reply
What is this?? saying that The ip4 is midrange???


JD
May 6, 2011 - 7:20 pm Reply
4.5″ of ****** hardware. Only morons buy phones that big.


Sohail
May 6, 2011 - 7:25 pm Reply
So anyone who likes a 4.5 Inch phone is a moron? I really hope the new iPhone whenever its available has a bigger screen than the current one.

Don’t assume that every one has the same choice as yours.


Tinavane
May 6, 2011 - 8:14 pm Reply
Amen sohali


Cardfan
May 7, 2011 - 4:12 am Reply
Big phone, crap screen though


Sohail
May 6, 2011 - 7:22 pm Reply
Its called choice for customers… I bought a white iPhone the day it was available and my brother bought a Android on the same day. There is nothing crazy about it.


Trtmazda3
May 6, 2011 - 7:23 pm Reply
The iPhone 4 is just a good phone. It has been around a bit but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s the most well known smartphone and is a first choice for a lot of people.


Tinavane
May 6, 2011 - 8:15 pm Reply
Because of non deserve hypes


Eric Stephenson
May 6, 2011 - 7:35 pm Reply
Its not all that surprising that the iPhone 4 is still among the ranks of mid to.high end smartphones 10 months after launch. The Nexus 1 launched 5 months before the iPhone 4 and has similar internals that keep it in the running even now as well. Last year was the year of 1ghz processors and 512 megs of ram. If Moore’s law states that computers will double in power every 18 to 24 months we are right on schedule with dual core 1 to 1.2 ghz phones with one gig of ram coming along now. I’m not certain that smartphones will continue that rate of advancement though. Unless battery technology improves significantly, and soon we will hit a wall at some point. There’s also the fact that the software hasn’t even caught up with the current generation of phones yet. Its been mentioned on Androidcentral that we’ll see quad core tablets by August which may mean phones shortly after that. Although given the extra space in tablets for a bigger battery and the things people use a tablet for the extra power makes more sense there first.


Ilovegeorgia
May 6, 2011 - 7:48 pm Reply
the oem’s dont care about battery life, they just care about how much power they can say it has.


Deferom
May 6, 2011 - 7:36 pm Reply
That’s not entirely fair. The Veer and iPhone 4 and Samsung Infuse 4G hit different markets, IMO.


Reason
May 6, 2011 - 7:48 pm Reply
its not crazy. iphones always have a lot of support. I really don’t think the veer and the iphone 4g are the direct competition. More like the veer and the iphone 3gs as the price points are closer.


FreakNasty
May 6, 2011 - 8:12 pm Reply
When has an iPhone not been in the race right up until the next gen iPhone was launched? Why is this crazy all of a sudden? Just judging off of specs, my EVO 4G is still a beast almost a year after release. And?


Frog
May 6, 2011 - 8:12 pm Reply
4.5″ is an avsolutely ridiculous size. Android still making handsets bigger, to make up for their poor interface and keyboard I see.


FreakNasty
May 6, 2011 - 8:54 pm Reply
Dumb comment of the day winner is you.


Brendan
May 6, 2011 - 9:12 pm Reply
Fact. My HTC Vision with themed AOSP is by far better looking (IMO) than pages of icon grids. And Smart Keyboard Pro blows the iPhone keyboard away in almost every way.


Banker
May 6, 2011 - 9:41 pm Reply
You don’t know what a “fact is”. Fact.


Andrew
May 7, 2011 - 4:27 am
lol@opinionsbeingpassedasfact


Ralph Cirella
May 6, 2011 - 11:55 pm Reply
Jackass of the say is you!


Ralph Cirella
May 6, 2011 - 11:57 pm Reply
@freaknasty. Isn’t it calling the kettle black? Your comments are consistently lane, and downright stupid.


Macman
May 7, 2011 - 2:16 am Reply
Is this the real Ralph c or fake?


Ralph Cirella
May 7, 2011 - 3:25 am
Real.


Avenged110
May 6, 2011 - 8:13 pm Reply
What’s the battery life like on the Veer? Seems too small to get that great of time.


Frank72
May 6, 2011 - 9:12 pm Reply
“We” are in the race? I did not realize you were an Apple employee Rene.


Banker
May 6, 2011 - 9:45 pm Reply
Obviously, you don’t have to be employee of a company to be a fanboy of it.


Macboy15
May 7, 2011 - 2:15 am Reply
We are in the race…. There. I work for apple. Happy now.


Mcgchan
May 6, 2011 - 9:52 pm Reply
I decided to try out the Android platform – bought an Acer Iconia tablet. Been using an iPhone for about 2 1/2 years, was and still am a PC person. Took the Acer back to the store after I tried to purchase an app – turned out to be a fraud, caused my credit card to be blocked for fraud activity – researched and found this was a common issue. Going to buy an iPad 2 now. Never had any issues with scammers with Apple’s app store. Say what you will, Android may be a great platform, but it’s just too risky. How many of you can afford to have your credit cards/bank accounts drained? I know I’m probably in the minority and most people never have problems – but the ‘closed and regulated’ app store is just the better way to go, for the peace of mind.


FreakNasty
May 7, 2011 - 12:27 am Reply
Curious. What app?


Andrew
May 7, 2011 - 4:34 am Reply
I call BS. Out of all the apps purchased on the Android Market, I’m sure your one app stole all your personal info and was fraudulent and you found it to be a “common issue”. What app was it? When did you buy it? What sources do you have showing that this is a “common issue”?


EricSchmidt
May 7, 2011 - 7:16 am Reply
Doubting there will be a response.


Riff Raff
May 7, 2011 - 7:36 am Reply
You are trolling again, Erik.

BTW, some dude called you out on a previous post and said your name should now be Trump.

You know, lots of words with no substance and not based on fact. I kind of like it, has a nice ring to it.

Have a nice day……….Don.


Dilligaf
May 6, 2011 - 9:54 pm Reply
Y’all sound like the OC housewives.


EagleyeSmith
May 6, 2011 - 10:56 pm Reply
10 months later and we’re still in the race, nice. I’ll take it!


Shrike
May 6, 2011 - 11:15 pm Reply
Once the CPU manufacturers start the multicore race, the performance difference between CPU generations get less and less as they are bottlenecked by software.

The performance gain from 3G to 3GS was basically double for all ops. From 3GS to 4, probably about 30%. From 4 to 5? It’ll be about 20% to 30% for all ops. Up to 2 for the embarrassingly parallel ones. It’ll handle system load better, but you’ll never see that 2x gain in performance for all ops as seen in the 3G to 3GS transition again.

Fortunately, the Apple A5 has an awesome GPU.

When Android manufacturers ship a 4 core device, the gain from going from 2 to 4 cores is going to be pretty small. Software is barely designed for 2 cores as it is. 4 cores? Heh, it is only now that 4 cores is standard on IMacs and Mac Pros. And we’re all ho-hum about it. Smartphone software is even further behind the curve in support for SMP systems.


Mike
May 7, 2011 - 4:38 am Reply
That’s because Apple and Apple GPUs lag behind Windows Software. You’re paying a ton more for hardware/software that is inferior to systems that are optimized for Quad Core. Good for you! The best way to keep the economy going is to buy overpriced useless products!!


Mark W
May 6, 2011 - 11:49 pm Reply
if and when hp releases the “pre 3″ can it be compared to either of those two, the veer is an eensy phone meant to easily slip into a pocket. how small? thin credit card with deck of cards thickness. its meant i think for a more dainty crowd. i wouldnt put its specs or capabilities up against my ipod touch lol. but its a nicely capable better than preplus or pre 2 kinda thing.


Cardfan
May 7, 2011 - 4:17 am Reply
Still not as thin as an iphone which is even more pocketable. I’m not sure who the HP Kin phone is aimed at. The dainty crowd? LOL The Pre 3 is a bit questionable. The Veer is just downright stupid. HP should have nixed this bad idea and just waited for the Touchpad/Pre 3 if they couldn’t do a slab yet. The Veer does more harm for them then good.