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- Coach Taeyeon - 02/08/2017
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iwPZzOcNgp6c4hIepG3reJik461h6X_MV20mBdBRw8g/edit
- Google Docs
- Scrim Notes
- 2/3/17 vs Momentary: http://pastebin.com/P3S2w045 2/3/17 EnVision: http://pastebin.com/dNRU003j
- February 12, 2017
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- raw data?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- o
- u linked it
- already
- LOL
- i was looking for this link but forgot u pmed it to me
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- i wouldnt call that a raw data sheet :p
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- well
- just the
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- I'm trying to get to optimize it more but idk how I wanna do it
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- ah
- is there a link to the other ones
- even if its not done
- all the way
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- I'm gonna be doing some VOD reviews tomorrow and I think Sai wants to as well
- I kiiiiinda had one, but it got worse and worse cuz i tried to keep track of so much that I missed a lot and ended up giving up
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- mmm i'll likely be dead, but if u record them i can re watch them
- when cow starts tommorow i'll have been up for 28 hours
- so after cow im sleep
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- so here's what I tried to get from DootDoot
- but again, it was kicking my booty so be gentle
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ua-q52GSJOthb2K7-BhvP_M22hD9e-5wMr28Uy4My7M/edit?usp=sharing
- Google Docs
- TAU 2/8
- Doot Doot KING’S ROW: Defense: Rein Zar McCree Soldier Lucio Ana vs Rein Zar Road Sold Luc Ana Push left side statue, their sold ana get 2 picks and instacap We stagger deaths, then get road picked and they push to end of 2nd phase nearly uncont. We finally stop them at 2nd elbow of last po...
- in team comps, yours always coms first
- if I say "we (hero)" or "they (hero)" it means that hero ulted
- example: "They zar rein road ana sold" means they burnt all 5 of those ults
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- oh hok
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- let me know what stuff, if any, I should keep and what, if any, I should drop to make it better
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- ok sounds good, i'll take a look and let you know
- thanks
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- yea no problem. thanks for looking it over. also compare it this one and see which is better: http://pastebin.com/P3S2w045
- Pastebin
- 2/3/17: vs Momentary: King's Row: Defense: Us: Rein, Zarya, Road...
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- im working 1 on 1 w/ sats right now
- i'll check it after
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- kk thanks yo
- have fujnm
- fun*
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- :gun:
- :stuck_out_tongue:
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- yea shoot me. work gonna suck tomorrow
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- what do u do
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- i deliver auto parts to shops, and occasional deal with customers on the phone or in person if people are busy
- idk shit about cars though
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- LOL
- hell yeah
- good money?
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- minimum wage since we increased it. $10/hour
- garbo. That's another reason I want to help this team become gods. I wanna make the mula and quit my job and analyze us to world cup >:)
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- that would be fuckin insaaaane
- i wish
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- dont wish. make it happen. That's literally my drive to help this time. Now that I feel people have kind of accepted into the circle I feel I can actually start helping
- before I was too nervous to say anything or do solo analysis cuz I was worried whatever I said would be like "who's this guy again??" or if I said something wrong you guys wouldn't trust me or something
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- the way i see it
- even if u say something retarded
- it could lead to the right end goal
- i have a weird brain
- i make abstract connections
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- nigga I just went through translating a thousand+ year old book about war strategies by a chinese general into OW learning material
- I feel you
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- HELL yeah
- i did the same w/ ronda roussey's book
- lmao
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- WUT
- If you're interested btw
- OW_Strategy_Stuff.txt
- 10.36 KB
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- yas im always interested
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- some of the analogies I used are from league of legends, but deal with it
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- i mean same
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- the individual stuff I think is yuge
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- since ive been playing since s3
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- i started at end of s2 with league
- RIP
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- r u challenjour
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- naw i peaked diamond, then i got into coaching and was an analyst for a mid-diamond to low-master team for a bit
- our mid laner ended up winning a 1v1 tourney for $5,500
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- was it vboy
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- naw i met vb irl though and he's got a massive douche-feel to him
- Hai, Balls, Scarra, and Cop were the cool pros I met. Most of 2014 Curse was asshole
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- /unf
- curse
- im a curse guy
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- i liked them till i met them
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- dont do this to me
- LOL
- let me be delusional
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- ok uhhhh
- NA IS BETTER THAN KOREA
- OUR PRESIDENT IS BURNT TOAST
- um
- IT REALLY IS BUTTER
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- im sad now
- thanks
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- to be fair, i may have just been paranoid. they weren't directly assholes, their behavior was just not inviting in the slightest so I just assumed they wanted nothing to do with anyone
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- did they lose
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- they weren't playing. they were just watching
- it was a fan event
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- oh rip
- weird
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- but i gotta go to bed fam. nice talkin. tell me what oyu think about the 2 sets of notes and we can talk tomorrow
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- sounds good
- talk 2 u tommorow
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- oh yea 1 last thing
- in that .txt file i sent you. i made a section at the bottom for shotcallers if you wanna check that out. you probably know most of it, but maybe there's something you can learn
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- ok thanks i'll keep note of that
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- did you get time to look at the things?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- Not yet I fell asleep after cow skeet
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- iight. i might even start doing the same thing, but post-games like going over vods so i can stop and rewind shit. It'd look similar, but more in depth. Or if you think people would soak the info better with less depth I can do that too
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- Mmmmm idk what they'd like, probably whatever is easiest for you
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/12/2017
- ehhh i dont really cary about easy unless school is top decking and wrecking me atm. I wanna do whatever is best for the team. But that's fine I'll test a few things out and see what I think is best
- TAU Pulsus - 02/12/2017
- hellll yeah
- February 15, 2017
- TAU Pulsus - 02/15/2017
- do u have any comments about my shotcalling today
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/15/2017
- as for the quality of the calls I'd have to review it more, but it kinda felt like you were out of it. There were moments where you were dead silent for a while when there's always a lot of information to process and not a lot of time, ya know?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/15/2017
- yeah i feel
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/15/2017
- you have any experience with starcraft or familiar with the scene?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/15/2017
- nope
- not really
- sorry
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/15/2017
- huh, well they have this concept of APM. You heard of it?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/15/2017
- actions per minute?
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/15/2017
- yea, so you know the concept and what it means then?
- February 16, 2017
- TAU Pulsus - 02/16/2017
- All I know is clicky clicky as fast as you can
- February 21, 2017
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- Overall analysis of what you think happened in fights. ( we won because of x, we lost because of x, in this fight if we x we wouldve won etc)
- raw data charts of team comps we experiment with in scrims ( can be as simple as [insert 6 heroes here] KR point 1 defense, held for 2:26 seconds, lost to grav/pulse combo)
- analysis on my calls and if the call was beneficial to winning the fight or a reason to losing the fight.
- idk if u saw my message in team chat yesterday but i forgot to send u yours lmao soz
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- yea i didn't see it. I've been trying to brainstorm the best way of keeping that kind of information that would be the most beneficial without overloading it too much. I'll try to run up a demo either wednesday before scrims or after scrims using that footage and see how you like it. Thank you.
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- hell yeah
- anyways i was bored at work so i decidied to jot down what people needed to work on/what they can do to help me or team/what they have been doing good
- everyone got a copy pasta from moi
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- sorry I've been slacking lately. Reasons are personal, but this last week was a nightmarish roller coaster and I couldn't focus on much and it set me behind in my classes as well. I'll try to get more and more on it for you guys
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- yeah its all good dude, you gotta be stable b4 u can help the team or you'll just be a hinder. id rather you make sure you're good in your personal life before helping team
- same goes for anyone on this roster, myself included
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- yea i appreciate it. I just kind of feel like I'm not doing anything but I really want to feel like a contributing factor to the team's success. Gonna just try to get in the groove of things and see how that goes. What do you plan on doing with those notes?
- I had taken some notes before and I don't think anybody ever looked at them so it was like why did I do them in the first place, ya know? But idk if people looked it it independently or what
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- tbh
- i lost the link
- LOL
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- heh
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- w/ raw data, i can compare comps and see what the team works best with
- and take that inforamtion and decide what comps we're going to run on what maps when it comes to tournament play
- for example if i notice a trend that we get full held running dive on kr, im not going to be implimenting dive into a tournament right
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- Sats and I discussed possible spreadsheets but idk how well that'd work. How long until the data gets outdated or something?
- I might do something like it tracks our last 10 games on any given map and what we did
- and each new game kicks out the oldest one on said map
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- mmmm
- the thing is
- the meta wont shift b4 10 games
- since we play about 10 games a day
- Coach Taeyeon pinned a message to this channel. See all the pins.02/21/2017
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- it would be 10 games per map
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- ohhh ok
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- and what that would hopefully do is keep you up to date with your most recent stuff
- since we change how we play and adjust a lot
- we won't be skewing the numbers on shit we did before we fixed X problem
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- yeah that could help. i always pull up my strat book in my personal discord depending on what map, so i could pull that up as well
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- I'm trying to think of a way to give you guys the info in a good way. I format all my shit on Notepad, and google docs just does not allow me the space I'm comfortable with, and paste bin's font is frustrating for me to read. Any ideas?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- im not picky w/ format
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- it helps me keep track of everything
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- sats is ocd
- you can pee the information in snow
- take a pic
- and id be cool w/ it
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- like this. this was my first set: http://pastebin.com/P3S2w045
- Pastebin
- 2/3/17: vs Momentary: King's Row: Defense: Us: Rein, Zarya, Road...
- it just looks so pretty
- but the font is so skinny it hurts my eyes. does it bug you?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- missed E.S.
- doesnt bbug me at all
- whats
- missed es
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- earth shatter
- oh yea
- and when i take notes
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- oh right
- u told me this
- im dumb
- LOL
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- if i say "we zarya rein" that means we used their ults. i said that too but just in case
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- noted
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- it might be similar to that but maybe ill go back and get more specific. thing is. I don't wanna get carried away and just write literally every single thing that happens
- because every game is like a novel
- so I'll try to find a happy medium
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- yeah even if its the fight that won them the point
- thtas fine
- comp>
- winning fight strat/combo>
- timeframe>
- ez pz
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- but is paste bin fine for you to read? like it doesn't bug your eyes at all?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- yeah thats fine
- i dont have eyes so its gucci
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- cool. So I'll probably make like a spreadsheet. A sheet for each map and a hyperlink to the notes for each game
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- helllll yeah
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- and 1 last thing
- if I see some tough situation and want to figure out what we should've done. Should I toss out a few ideas, give my best even if I'm not sure it's right, or only say something when I'm very confident about it?
- or if I'm clueless I can just write down the situation or screencap it and we can discuss it as a team
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- if you're not confident, feel free to just discuss your ideas and we can come to a conclusion on whats the best
- yeah just be like "ok i seen this, i think this, what are you opinions" or something
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- Yea I'll make notes like:
- Recommended solution is...
- Solutions to consider might be...
- not sure what to do. discuss...
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- yeah thats fine
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- sweg
- I'll try to make you guys proud
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- i believ
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- ever take a look at those Art of War quotes?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- i started reading it tonight actually
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- oh yea? any interesting stuff?
- i forgot did i send you the whole thing or just the shotcaller portion?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- i dont remember either so send it again
- im only like 10 pages in
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/21/2017
- OW_Strategy_Stuff.txt
- 10.46 KB
- TAU Pulsus - 02/21/2017
- https://www.twitch.tv/xxzod
- Twitch
- xxZod - Twitch
- also everyone here
- February 22, 2017
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- hey when you're not busy, can you take a look at the vods and let me know if the mercy 1st point defense had any value for the team
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- what scrim and what map?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- our scrims yesteray in the vod channel
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- it looks like the mercy pick helped delay them longer. At 2:13 in game timer (26:01 in the video) they earthshatter to engage. Zod just barely got his ultimate. By the 3 minute mark you'd boosted him enough to get him his ult 10% quicker. That number probably went up to him getting his ult about 13-14% quicker by the time the fight started. Had he not gotten visor the moment he did, that fight was very likely lost as without tac-visor, Zod probably doesn't kill both healers and the roadhog. That delays them a solid 42 seconds from capping. That's not even bringing in the res factor in. Which wasn't super amazing given the poor opportunities, but it was still something
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- hell ya
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- you want the notes in a PM or just chillin in like a google doc or somethin?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- up to you
- whatever is easier
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- http://pastebin.com/cJVgZDH0
- Pastebin
- 2/22/17 Retrograde: King's Row: Offense: Us: Rein Zarya Roadhog ...
- there ya go
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- why pastebin?
- i specifically asked you not to put it in that format
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- LOL
- I thought you said anything was fine
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- :wink:
- im just messing
- ty
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- im gonna cry
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- sorry dad
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- im telling mom
- also did everything i said about the mercy thing make sense?
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- where
- i read over that pastebin
- we didnt run mercy today
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- no from earlier
- when you asked me to look it over
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- oh yeah
- it made sense
- me likey
- i thought i mentioned me likey
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- i wasn't sure if you got everything or if you just kinda glimpsed over it or something. But yea, the numbers games are pretty dope. Got to bust out OW pedia to look up the charge amounts and all that stuff
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- yeah i was doing that lsat night too
- Coach Taeyeon - 02/22/2017
- i think im going to try to memorize as much of that as I can. I feel like fully understanding all those numbers could help understand the game quicker
- TAU Pulsus - 02/22/2017
- yeah definitely
- March 1, 2017
- Coach Taeyeon - 03/01/2017
- did you want the notes for yourself or do you think they would look at them too?
- TAU Pulsus - 03/01/2017
- You can offer it to them
- As like "If you're interested@
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