2. avgust 2017
William: You were SO of Oasis and you know exactly what I am talking about. You have a choice. Deal with this or I am going to Taleworlds right now with this chat log.
William: And then you can enjoy in the black stain that will be on you.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Oh, you meant "Conner". That is why I asked - I know of multiple people called "Connor" but none that are called "Conner".
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Making threats to us will not aid this discussion - I'd advise you to only communicate to us what needs to be communicated.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Contacting a 3rd party like "TaleWorlds" won't help - We will also refer them to the abuse form as that is a legal requirement. We can not take action against a customer without it and with proper verification.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: We'd be breaking our own terms which our customers agreed to.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: But anyway, goodluck!
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Let me know if I can help you with anything in the future.
William: Right, Conner.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Hi William
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: What can I do for you?
William: I've contacted the "costumer" and while he first agreed to the terms he has now broken the agreement and is using our maps again.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Alright
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Feel free to contact our abuse team
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Its the only way we can legally do anything
William: Who's in this abuse team?
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Our staff.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: It is not about what is fair or is not. It's about the actual facts.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: So the question of "Who is in the abuse team" is useless.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: So is my answer.
William: It was more of a mocking question, wasn't it.
William: Anyways, I'll play your little game.
William: What's the email adress and what has to be in this email?
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Details of:
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: The service
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: The copyrighted material being abused
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: The full name, address, phone number and e-mail address of the claimant
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Any proof of ownership of the item in questions
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Send it to abuse@oasis-hosting(dot)net
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Beware: if there are multiple claimants, they must be included as well.
William: Why are personal details necassery?
William: I don't feel obligated to send you any of my personal details and I don't trust you with them.
William: And there is no real reason for me to give you my personal details and are completely irrelevant in this case.
William: A server hosted on your server is using our maps.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: To send a cease and desist to one of our customers (as we'd have to do in order to force this change to their service) we have to be prepared to file a full copyright abuse claim against them. In order to do this, we're legally required to have the details of the claimant on file, and have permission from the claimant to take said action on their behalf. If you'd prefer, you can contact the sever owner directly and send them an official cease and desist - but to do so via us we are legally required to have the information we've requested.
William: No no.
William: YOU are the hosting company.
William: YOU won't file any copyright abuse claim against them. As soon as I provide you with proof of ownership, which I by the way wouldn't even have to it's your responsibility to take it down.
William: In addition to the maps that they're using they've also copied our entire ruleset which is our property as well.
William: Their website is hosted on your domain or is a "subomain"
William: You're directly responsible for what is being put on your domain.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Alright, if you believe those items belong to you, please file an abuse claim.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: That is the only way we can take action.
William: If you don't resolve this I will file a complaint against you, not the server abusing the maps.
William: I will not give you any personal information whatsoever as it is COMPLETELY unnecassery.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Its the exact same procedure everywhere.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Alright
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: If you don't wish to do so, I am afraid I can't help you any further
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Can I do something else for you?
William: I will provide you with proof of ownership and everything that you wanted except the personal information.
William: To that email adress.
William: And you're saying you can't help me?
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: Not providing the information required in full makes the claim invalid.
William: Sure
William: So you're saying it would be easier for us to go to TaleWorlds?
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: The same procedure will still be required.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: The owner of the copyrighted material needs to file the claim. It is not possible for it to be done by someone else.
William: That's not how it was done previously.
William: We've forced your hosting company to stop hosting maps that were copyrighted.
William: In the past.
William: And no personal information was required.
Jesseownsyou | Oasis-Hosting.net: In this case we don't own the server that is using the maps.