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  1. Cheeseness
  2. Alrighty, are people ready?
  3. 7:08
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  8. Syd
  9. Yep.
  10. 7:09
  11. GameClubFan_000132
  12. Sure
  13.  
  14. 7:09
  15. Cheeseness
  16. As always, tell me if there are troubles with the stream
  17. 7:09
  18. nads
  19. back
  20. oh timing
  21.  
  22. 7:09
  23. Cheeseness
  24.  
  25. 7:10
  26. Nevik
  27. cheese your voice is aweosme
  28.  
  29. 7:10
  30. Cheeseness
  31.  
  32. 7:10
  33. Dubblix
  34. Is there a plugin needed for sound?
  35. 7:10
  36. Stanto
  37.  
  38. dodgy!
  39.  
  40. 7:10
  41. Cheeseness
  42. Dubblix: it should just work
  43. 7:10
  44. Syd
  45. Restart the stream if you don't get sound.
  46.  
  47. 7:10
  48. Cheeseness
  49. OK, so this is the Amiga version that comes as a bonus with the Steam version
  50. 7:10
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  54. 7:10
  55. Nevik
  56. i only have this on my phone
  57. 7:11
  58. Syd
  59. Also, it's a legitimate Amiga version. it comes with the steam version of Another World.
  60. 7:11
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  62. 7:11
  63. nads [7bf36641@hide-6C77D8AA.mibbit.com] entered the room.
  64. 7:11
  65. Stanto
  66. uh huh
  67. 7:11
  68. Syd
  69. The Amiga version loads a bit slow, so don't panic on black screens. |
  70.  
  71. 7:11
  72. Cheeseness
  73. It's hiding in the bonus folder alongside a making of documentary and the soundtrack
  74. 7:11
  75. Nevik
  76. are all versions the same?
  77. 7:11
  78. Permafry_42 [46469094@hide-BF4D4B18.mibbit.com] entered the room.
  79. 7:12
  80. Permafry_42
  81. hey
  82. 7:12
  83. Syd
  84. Mostly
  85. 7:12
  86. nads
  87. is anyone elses stream flashing a tv a question mark
  88.  
  89. 7:12
  90. Cheeseness
  91. Nevik: Nah, there are a few differences. This version is missing a sequence which I'll talk about here in chat after the stream
  92. 7:12
  93. nads
  94. ...i'll restart again
  95. 7:12
  96. Stanto
  97. amiga version is best version
  98. 7:12
  99. nads left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
  100.  
  101. 7:12
  102. Cheeseness
  103. I think the music here is the best
  104. 7:12
  105. nads [7bf36641@hide-BF4D4B18.mibbit.com] entered the room.
  106. 7:12
  107. Nevik
  108. i have teh humble android verison
  109. 7:12
  110. nads
  111. woot!
  112. 7:12
  113. Stanto pats amiga 1200 sat next to him
  114.  
  115. 7:12
  116. Cheeseness
  117. That's the 20th anniversary edition, I believe
  118. Go Stanto
  119. 7:12
  120. Dubblix
  121. I have game sound now. I hope that's all I should be getting so far
  122.  
  123. 7:13
  124. Cheeseness
  125. I have two 500s in my cupboard
  126. 7:13
  127. Syd
  128. Yep, just game sound
  129.  
  130. 7:13
  131. Cheeseness
  132. Dubblix: You should see some video as well
  133. 7:13
  134. Dubblix
  135. Yeah that too
  136. Sorry
  137. 7:13
  138. Nevik
  139. i have no amiga
  140. 7:13
  141. Syd
  142. Also, the video yeah. lol
  143.  
  144. 7:13
  145. Cheeseness
  146. This is edge of the seat stuff
  147. 7:13
  148. GameClubFan_000132
  149. suspence
  150.  
  151. 7:13
  152. Cheeseness
  153. I don't understand how people aren't frothing at the mouth
  154.  
  155. 7:13
  156. Permafry_42
  157. i really love the art style for the game
  158.  
  159. 7:14
  160. Cheeseness
  161. I can't think of many games at all that have this level of pacing and atmosphere
  162. 7:14
  163. Nevik
  164. note to self never conduct experiment int lighting
  165. 7:14
  166. Stanto
  167. I'm looking forward to the flashback reboot apprehensively
  168.  
  169. 7:14
  170. Cheeseness
  171. I'll die a few times on purpose t explore some of the death scenes (that's my cover)
  172. 7:14
  173. Dubblix
  174. Wow, Flashback takes me back. I remember the gaming magazine build ups to it
  175. 7:14
  176. Syd
  177. Particle accelerators and lightning don't like each other too much
  178. 7:14
  179. Nevik
  180. kings quest?
  181. wait no torins passage
  182.  
  183. 7:14
  184. Cheeseness
  185. But apologies in advance if I die multiple times in some spots (it's a tricky game
  186. 7:14
  187. Stanto
  188. Ahhh I had kings quest on 5.25" disks
  189. 7:14
  190. Syd
  191. Also, like I said before, long loading times on this version.
  192. 7:14
  193. nads
  194. any Blackthorne fans out there
  195.  
  196. 7:14
  197. Cheeseness
  198. Whoops, wrong button
  199. 7:15
  200. Stanto
  201. lol
  202. 7:15
  203. Dubblix
  204. This plays like Dragon's Lair?
  205. 7:15
  206. GameClubFan_035052 [4e5696b2@hide-6C77D8AA.mibbit.com] entered the room.
  207. 7:15
  208. Syd
  209. No, this is a cinematic platformer
  210. 7:15
  211. Stanto
  212. And here's where I was first introduced to leeches
  213. 7:15
  214. Permafry_42
  215. lol
  216. 7:15
  217. Nevik
  218. got invited to see man of steel
  219. 7:16
  220. Stanto
  221. When I first played this I didn't even know you could kick them
  222. 7:16
  223. Mimness
  224. Being the voice of Cheeseness: It's about as unforgiving as Dragon's Lair.
  225. 7:16
  226. Stanto
  227. Nom nom nom nom
  228. 7:16
  229. Syd
  230. Cinematic platformers include the likes of the early Prince of Persia games and the first two Oddworld games.
  231. 7:16
  232. nads
  233. ahh so close
  234. 7:16
  235. Dubblix
  236. Seems to be. I played Dragon's Lair for a few hours on PC and grew exceedingly frustrated. I was probably 8 years old and didn't quite get it
  237. 7:17
  238. Stanto
  239. There's a remake of Abe's Oddysee coming out  
  240. 7:17
  241. Mimness
  242. Cheeseness says: I love this first scene - It's got a great amount of detail, it sets the tone for the game
  243. 7:17
  244. Dubblix
  245. They're making it prettier, aren't they?
  246. 7:17
  247. Stanto
  248. Yes
  249. 7:17
  250. nads
  251. The NES version of Dragon's Lair i guess you could compare to this type of genre... shame it was broken
  252. 7:17
  253. Mimness
  254. Cheeseness says: Brilliant atmosphere
  255. 7:18
  256. nads
  257. RUN!
  258. 7:18
  259. Oughtobe [629b319f@hide-6C77D8AA.mibbit.com] entered the room.
  260. 7:18
  261. Stanto
  262. The layering on these scenes are really simple but work well I think
  263. 7:18
  264. Mimness
  265. Cheeseness says: insert Benny Hill theme
  266. 7:18
  267. Oughtobe
  268. Hello Double Fine Game Clubbers
  269. 7:18
  270. Permafry_42
  271. If you want to play a broken nes game, play the original mother/earthbound zero. the ending for that game was brutal to the point where glitching was the only way to beat it
  272.  
  273. 7:18
  274. Cheeseness
  275. Ahh, my mind is being blown by how awesome this game is
  276. 7:18
  277. Syd
  278. Hey Oughtobe
  279.  
  280. 7:18
  281. Cheeseness
  282. No dialogue at this stage and already I'm captivated!
  283. 7:19
  284. Oughtobe
  285. I doubt anyone remembers me from the Monkey Island or BASS playthroughs, but hello anyway
  286. 7:19
  287. nads
  288. yo
  289. 7:19
  290. Stanto
  291. nice
  292. not a disk number, just other disk.
  293. 7:19
  294. Permafry_42
  295. lol
  296.  
  297. 7:19
  298. Cheeseness
  299. Hi Oughtobe
  300. 7:19
  301. Mimness
  302. Hey Oughtobe, welcome back
  303. 7:19
  304. Dubblix
  305. Pick a disk. It's like Choose Your Own Adventure.
  306.  
  307. 7:19
  308. Cheeseness
  309. Yeah, there are only two disks
  310. 7:19
  311. Oughtobe
  312. I claimed to have figured out the MI secret, that it was always going to be kept secret
  313. 7:20
  314. Syd
  315. Ron told us that the secret is that Guybrush is a banana. Ron would never lie to us.
  316. 7:20
  317. Stanto
  318. That just raises more questions
  319. 7:20
  320. Oughtobe
  321. Although Ron eluded to a resolution, I think an ongoing secret, is still considered a grumpy gamer's resolution
  322. 7:20
  323. nads
  324. Do you fight the bandit (put in disk 42) Try to reason with the bandit (put in disk 21)
  325. 7:20
  326. Dubblix
  327. After so many years of playing MI repeatedly, I never knew about the breath-holding easter eggs
  328. 7:20
  329. Oughtobe
  330. Amusta
  331. Amusta, grow
  332. 7:20
  333. Mimness
  334. Cheeseness says: There's a commentary that Eric does where he talks about this first glimpse of the alien. He says this is to project some character onto the alien, so when you look at the distant stuff what you see in your mind is what was established in that very brief initial shot
  335. 7:21
  336. Oughtobe
  337. My solo-one...
  338. haha
  339. Is this the original verrsion or the anniversary version?
  340. 7:21
  341. Mimness
  342. Throw a grenade.
  343. 7:21
  344. Stanto
  345. pew pew pew pew
  346. 7:21
  347. Syd
  348. Amiga version that comes in the Steam version
  349. It's hidden in the bonus folder inside the game data
  350. 7:21
  351. Oughtobe
  352. oh cool
  353. 7:21
  354. Permafry_42
  355. i love the guns sounds
  356. 7:21
  357. Oughtobe
  358. The updated version is awesome but this is still cool
  359. 7:21
  360. Syd
  361. Cheeseness is running it on an Amiga emulator
  362. 7:22
  363. Mimness
  364. Cheeseness says: Yeah the sound design is fantastic
  365. 7:22
  366. nads
  367. I love the fact how you are just thrown into the game... no tutorials...
  368. 7:22
  369. Syd
  370. So, some slow loading times are to be expected.
  371. 7:22
  372. Mimness
  373. Cheeseness says: Yeah it's running on E-UAE
  374. 7:22
  375. Oughtobe
  376. Is there a way to watch the game fullscreen and have the chat room on the side or something?
  377. 7:22
  378. nads
  379. guess you would have a fair idea if you looked at the manual... ahhh I miss old school gaming manuals
  380. 7:22
  381. Stanto
  382. Yes if you have two monitors Oughtobe
  383. 7:22
  384. Permafry_42
  385. get 2 monitor's like me =d
  386. 7:22
  387. nads
  388. with their code wheels
  389. 7:22
  390. Mimness
  391. Cheeseness says: Notice the flashing dot at the bottom of the screen
  392. 7:22
  393. Permafry_42
  394. *
  395. 7:22
  396. Stanto
  397. Or two devices
  398. 7:22
  399. Syd
  400. There should be something you can click on below the chat to make it pop out
  401. Then you can fullscreen the game and put the chat over to the side
  402. 7:23
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  405. Mimness
  406. Yeah it says click here to open chat in a seperate window
  407. 7:23
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  409. 7:23
  410. Oughtobe2
  411. Nice
  412. it worked
  413. 7:23
  414. Mimness
  415. Cheeseness says: I love that the alien walks slowly, which gives you the opportunity to leave him behind and experiment with that
  416.  
  417. 7:23
  418. Cheeseness
  419. DRAMA!
  420. And loading!
  421. 7:24
  422. Permafry_42
  423. i like the rolling animation
  424. 7:24
  425. Syd
  426. Time to roll around in vents.
  427. 7:24
  428. Oughtobe2
  429. Thanks for the help...
  430. my screen is just blue
  431. oh there we go
  432. man this part frustrated me
  433. 7:24
  434. Dubblix
  435. Oh man, this looks exceedingly frustating
  436. 7:24
  437. Stanto
  438. that must be so claustrophobic inducing
  439. 7:24
  440. Oughtobe2
  441. It's easy once you get the hang of it
  442. 7:25
  443. Permafry_42
  444. lol
  445. 7:25
  446. Syd
  447. I didn't have a lot of trouble with the vent section, but I probably got lucky
  448. 7:25
  449. Mimness
  450. Cheeseness says: This sequence really expands out the possibility space, it moves beyond the established normal platformer gameplay and makes you feel like anything could be possible.
  451. 7:25
  452. nads
  453. whoops
  454. 7:25
  455. Oughtobe2
  456. Good point Mimness
  457. 7:25
  458. Syd
  459. That smack sound when you hit the floor
  460. 7:25
  461. Mimness
  462. The sound when he lands is brutal
  463. 7:25
  464. Stanto
  465. any 'death' could be possible, right ?
  466. 7:26
  467. Oughtobe2
  468. I like to shoot a blast at the charger
  469. 7:26
  470. Nevik
  471. is your ammo limited
  472. 7:26
  473. Mimness
  474. Cheeseness says:So these are recharge stations that will charge your gun
  475. 7:26
  476. Syd
  477. Nope
  478. 7:26
  479. Dubblix
  480. So this game proved Red Faction was full of shit and this had Geo-Mod first
  481. 7:26
  482. Syd
  483. Unlimited ammo
  484. 7:26
  485. Oughtobe2
  486. I think it breaks the back wall but still works as a recharger
  487. 7:26
  488. Permafry_42
  489. i like how his hair gets blown up from the electricity
  490. 7:26
  491. Nevik
  492. geo mod?
  493. 7:26
  494. Oughtobe2
  495. The updated version isn't available on Steam?
  496.  
  497. 7:26
  498. Cheeseness
  499. Nah ammo is limited
  500. 7:26
  501. Syd
  502. It is
  503.  
  504. 7:26
  505. Cheeseness
  506. And loading again ^_^
  507. 7:26
  508. Stanto
  509. The updated version is available ons team
  510. 7:26
  511. Oughtobe2
  512. I think I'm spoiled by it
  513. 7:26
  514. Stanto
  515. http://store.steampowered.com/app/233550/
  516. 7:26
  517. Syd
  518. 25th anniversary edition is on Steam
  519. 7:26
  520. Oughtobe2
  521. But these graphics were so awesome back in the day
  522. The Ferrari in the intro and everything
  523. amazing
  524. 7:27
  525. Stanto
  526. Dangly things!
  527. 7:27
  528. Dubblix
  529. Is the updated version just a graphics update?
  530. 7:27
  531. Nevik
  532. rocked
  533.  
  534. 7:27
  535. Cheeseness
  536. Remastered music and backgrounds
  537. 7:27
  538. Oughtobe2
  539. I got lucky on this rock section at first
  540. 7:27
  541. Syd
  542. And even though it doesn't advertise it, there's ADF image files in the bonus folder within the game data for the Steam version
  543.  
  544. 7:27
  545. Cheeseness
  546. The game graphics haven't changed
  547. 7:27
  548. GameClubFan_000132 left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
  549.  
  550. 7:27
  551. Cheeseness
  552. They're vector based and so are resizeable
  553. 7:27
  554. Oughtobe2
  555. When I played it again it was hard, but the first time, I don't think I died once
  556. 7:27
  557. Syd
  558. The Steam version has both original and redone graphics, and you can switch between them with the press of a button
  559. 7:28
  560. Oughtobe2
  561. Maybe its the resolution?
  562. 7:28
  563. Stanto
  564. Dubblix: graphics update, but faithful to original and difficulty modes
  565. 7:28
  566. Oughtobe2
  567. I remember the updated being a little cleaner, maybe its because its streaming
  568.  
  569. 7:28
  570. Cheeseness
  571. This is the original Amiga version
  572. 7:28
  573. Stanto
  574. Oughtobe2: This isn't the updated one
  575.  
  576. 7:28
  577. Cheeseness
  578. So it's pretty low res
  579. 7:28
  580. Nevik
  581. geo mod
  582. ?
  583. 7:29
  584. Stanto
  585. Maybe this needs an overlay saying "original amiga version"
  586. 7:29
  587. Dubblix
  588. Able to modify the environment. Red Faction was the first shooter to boast the technology. You could literally blow up most of the level and make holes
  589.  
  590. 7:30
  591. Cheeseness
  592. Ha, Stanto
  593. 7:30
  594. Oughtobe2
  595. I think Bad Company one or two, was the first fps, I felt like you could really blow up everything
  596.  
  597. 7:30
  598. Cheeseness
  599. Fruit
  600. 7:31
  601. Oughtobe2
  602. But I didn't play red faction much
  603. Who's playing the game?
  604. 7:31
  605. Syd
  606. The ceiling hungers
  607. 7:31
  608. Dubblix
  609. Red Faction predates them, I believe.
  610. 7:31
  611. Syd
  612. Cheeseness is playing
  613. 7:31
  614. Oughtobe2
  615. Or is this a recorded video of a playtrhough?
  616. 7:31
  617. Stanto
  618. Don't really understand why he's going back on himself here
  619.  
  620. 7:31
  621. Cheeseness
  622. No, this is lvie
  623. 7:31
  624. Syd
  625. Its being streamed live
  626.  
  627. 7:31
  628. Cheeseness
  629. There's nothing I can do here
  630. 7:31
  631. Oughtobe2
  632. You gotta do a running jump early though
  633. Running jump early
  634. to normal standing jump
  635. 7:31
  636. Stanto
  637. That's, just weird
  638. 7:31
  639. Syd
  640. You'll see why he's doing what he's doing later
  641. He's setting this area up for something that he'll be doing a bit further on
  642. 7:32
  643. Oughtobe2
  644. you almost had it
  645. boom
  646. nice
  647. 7:32
  648. Permafry_42
  649. nice
  650. 7:32
  651. Stanto
  652. I guess in games design this is where you're not exactly directed as to what you're supposed to be doing, where as now you get different colouring or lighting to point you the right way
  653. 7:32
  654. Oughtobe2
  655. shoot the bat
  656. so it gets eaten
  657. wait for it
  658.  
  659. 7:32
  660. Cheeseness
  661. D:
  662. 7:32
  663. Oughtobe2
  664. there you go
  665.  
  666. 7:33
  667. Cheeseness
  668. That sucked
  669. 7:33
  670. Stanto
  671. lol
  672. 7:33
  673. Dubblix
  674. Haha
  675. 7:33
  676. Oughtobe2
  677. no you had to jump to the thingies
  678. 7:33
  679. Permafry_42
  680. ouch
  681. 7:33
  682. Oughtobe2
  683. the staligities
  684. 7:33
  685. Permafry_42
  686. the checkpoints are brutal...
  687.  
  688. 7:33
  689. Cheeseness
  690. Actually, they're prettty good
  691. 7:33
  692. Oughtobe2
  693. a little more
  694. you can creep pretty close to it
  695.  
  696. 7:33
  697. Cheeseness
  698. I'll get Mim to talkfor me
  699. 7:34
  700. Oughtobe2
  701. either early run jump
  702. or boom nice
  703. 7:34
  704. Permafry_42
  705. i feel really glad the first game I'm doing is a lot easier than this
  706. 7:34
  707. Oughtobe2
  708. there you go
  709. am I annoying you cheesyness?
  710. you're probably a pro at this already
  711.  
  712. 7:35
  713. Cheeseness
  714. ^_^
  715. 7:35
  716. Oughtobe2
  717. this part is awesome
  718. 7:35
  719. Stanto
  720. This can only go well
  721. 7:35
  722. Syd
  723. He played through the whole game last night while he was trying to find the right settings for his streaming client
  724.  
  725. 7:35
  726. Cheeseness
  727. Woo!
  728. 7:35
  729. Oughtobe2
  730. hell yea
  731.  
  732. 7:35
  733. Cheeseness
  734. I've finished it three times in the past month or so
  735. 7:35
  736. Oughtobe2
  737. nice
  738. 7:35
  739. Dubblix
  740. I feel like Ron used this as inspiration for The Cave
  741. 7:35
  742. Permafry_42
  743. good job!
  744. 7:35
  745. Oughtobe2
  746. I actually only beat it a few years ago
  747. I got to the very end and couldn't get passed the part right after you drop the crystal ball things on the soldiers
  748. 7:36
  749. Permafry_42
  750. still have to beat it myself
  751. 7:36
  752. Mimness
  753. Cheeseness says: If I hadn't drained the water, this here would be slippery and I'd die
  754. 7:36
  755. Syd
  756. Yeah, there's a waterfall on this screen if you don't drain the reservior
  757. 7:37
  758. Dubblix
  759. Is that your alien buddy?
  760. 7:37
  761. Stanto
  762. Go alien dude, go
  763. 7:37
  764. Mimness
  765. Cheeseness says: The checkpoints, particularly in the cave section, maintain the game's pacing. If the checkpoints were closer together you'd lose a lot of the beats and the urgency with the action sequences
  766. 7:37
  767. Oughtobe2
  768. yup, I thought this game did a really good job at letting you play it wrong but then give you hints on how to go the right way
  769. 7:37
  770. AlexVSharp [b294b262@hide-6C77D8AA.mibbit.com] entered the room.
  771. 7:37
  772. Oughtobe2
  773. Don't you have to wait for him before you fight the guards?
  774. nice
  775. 7:38
  776. Mimness
  777. Cheeseness says: He's trapped
  778. 7:38
  779. Oughtobe2
  780. grenade
  781. Don't open the doors
  782. 7:38
  783. Syd
  784. Last night, Cheeseness found an interesting way to handle one of the guard encounters that's coming up.
  785. 7:38
  786. Mimness
  787.  Cheeseness says: I accidentally keep shooting when I'm trying to run
  788. 7:38
  789. Dubblix
  790. Man, death is so certain in this. No partial damage or life bar
  791. 7:38
  792. Oughtobe2
  793. nice
  794. 7:39
  795. Stanto
  796. lol
  797. 7:39
  798. Mimness
  799. Cheeseness says: I died on this screen on purpose to show what would happen
  800. 7:39
  801. Oughtobe2
  802. thats the fun of it
  803. Dying isn't a bgig deal
  804. wait for it
  805. nice
  806. 7:39
  807. GameClubFan_446026 [638b404b@hide-6C77D8AA.mibbit.com] entered the room.
  808. 7:39
  809. Stanto
  810. lol
  811. 7:39
  812. Mimness
  813. Cheeseness says: That's a guard below that we could see the reflection of
  814. 7:39
  815. Oughtobe2
  816. I think thats why I kept messing up
  817. 7:39
  818. Stanto
  819. lol
  820. 7:39
  821. xrlk left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
  822. 7:39
  823. Dubblix
  824. Is that just a jump or a teleport?
  825. 7:39
  826. Oughtobe2
  827. I didn't realize it was a reflecting until a few years ago
  828. 7:40
  829. Mimness
  830. Cheeseness says:  It's a lift
  831.  
  832. 7:40
  833. Cheeseness
  834. Winnar
  835. 7:40
  836. Dubblix
  837. Ahhhh
  838. 7:40
  839. Syd
  840. This is that interesting way that Cheeseness found to handle these guys
  841. 7:40
  842. Oughtobe2
  843. actually... no i think i got passed it
  844. 7:40
  845. Syd
  846. Friendly fire!
  847. 7:40
  848. Oughtobe2
  849. I got stuck right before you enter the areana
  850. 7:40
  851. nads
  852. nice!
  853. 7:40
  854. Mimness
  855. Cheeseness says: This chandelier is what's blocking our friend
  856. 7:40
  857. Oughtobe2
  858. why did you need to do that again?
  859. oh yea
  860. 7:40
  861. Mimness
  862. Cheeseness says: This upcoming fight is pretty hard so apologies in advance if I die
  863. 7:41
  864. Oughtobe2
  865. this part is hard
  866. 7:41
  867. Dubblix
  868. Oh, you're making barriers
  869. 7:41
  870. Oughtobe2
  871. nice
  872. 7:41
  873. Mimness
  874. Cheeseness says: This is what filled up when we blew a hole earlier
  875. 7:41
  876. Syd
  877. And now you get to see what he was setting up in the caves earlier
  878. 7:41
  879. Stanto
  880. Oh look, it's open
  881. 7:42
  882. Oughtobe2
  883. hmm, I can't remember where I got stuck
  884. get some air
  885. 7:42
  886. Mimness
  887. Cheeseness says: We're going down now to turn off the power for something that's a bit later
  888. 7:42
  889. Dubblix
  890. He's no Guyrbush
  891. 7:42
  892. Oughtobe2
  893. yea i remember doing this
  894. what was guybrush's time? like 3 minutes?
  895. 7:42
  896. Dubblix
  897. 10
  898. 7:42
  899. Oughtobe2
  900. Guybrush is no David Blaine
  901. 7:42
  902. Mimness
  903. 10
  904. 7:42
  905. Oughtobe2
  906. 10?
  907.  
  908. 7:42
  909. Cheeseness
  910. 10
  911. 7:42
  912. Stanto
  913. 10
  914. 7:42
  915. Oughtobe2
  916. oh he's close at least
  917. 10 mins is def impressive
  918. 7:44
  919. Mimness
  920. Cheeseness says: The swimming animation is probably a low point but in general it's fantastic
  921. 7:44
  922. Oughtobe2
  923. Guybrush's normal heart rate is probably like 40bpm, he's so chill about everything
  924. 7:44
  925. Stanto
  926. Hahahah t-bagging
  927. 7:44
  928. Oughtobe2
  929. for back then it was good
  930. 7:44
  931. Dubblix
  932. They seem angry with you
  933. 7:44
  934. Mimness
  935. Cheeseness says: It lags a bit here, which is kind of sad, because this part has incredible pacing and it's quite dynamic
  936. 7:44
  937. Oughtobe2
  938. I think I didn't knock the chandelier down
  939. oh so close
  940. yea, I think he was still stuck
  941. so I was like what do I do
  942. I think you don't kill the last guard and just sneak off
  943. 7:45
  944. Mimness
  945. Cheeseness says: There's a bit that's been missed, which is what we turned the power off for, and I don't quite understand why it's not here, but it's a sequence that I'll talk about in a bit
  946. 7:46
  947. Oughtobe2
  948. I think you just need to keep building walls or force fields until your friend comes
  949. or you kill one of them, right?
  950. oh wow
  951. go
  952. aren't you supposed to let him help you escape?
  953. 7:46
  954. Dubblix
  955. Man, I'd be sweating all over my keyboard/controller trying to play this
  956. 7:46
  957. Mimness
  958. Cheeseness says: They're too close though
  959. 7:46
  960. Stanto
  961. pew pew pew
  962. 7:47
  963. Oughtobe2
  964. Back then, we were used to games being really hard
  965. especially platformers
  966. 7:47
  967. Dubblix
  968. I remember, I was there
  969. And I sweat as a kid, too
  970. 7:47
  971. Oughtobe2
  972. The original prince of persia was really hard
  973. 7:47
  974. Dubblix
  975. I'm a gross guy
  976. 7:47
  977. Oughtobe2
  978. especially if you wanted the good ending
  979. 7:47
  980. AlexVSharp
  981. >_<
  982. 7:48
  983. Oughtobe2
  984. pop 2 was a little easier, but still hard
  985. 7:48
  986. Mimness
  987. Cheeseness says: It doesn't help that it's lagging a bit -_-
  988. 7:48
  989. Oughtobe2
  990. oh wow
  991. 7:48
  992. Dubblix
  993. That's one way to handle it
  994.  
  995. 7:48
  996. Cheeseness
  997.  
  998. 7:48
  999. nads
  1000. lol that worked
  1001. 7:48
  1002. Mimness
  1003. Yay!
  1004. 7:48
  1005. Oughtobe2
  1006. awe3some
  1007. 7:48
  1008. Permafry_42
  1009. nice
  1010. 7:48
  1011. Stanto
  1012. If in doubt, spam the fire button
  1013. 7:48
  1014. Oughtobe2
  1015. yea thats where I got stuck as a kid
  1016.  
  1017. 7:48
  1018. Cheeseness
  1019. That's a really tough encounter
  1020. 7:49
  1021. Oughtobe2
  1022. and its pretty much over
  1023. 7:49
  1024. Syd
  1025. Loading time!
  1026.  
  1027. 7:49
  1028. Cheeseness
  1029. Not helped by the lag that UAE is giving me during that bit
  1030. 7:49
  1031. Permafry_42
  1032. blaster> the FORCEfields
  1033.  
  1034. 7:49
  1035. Cheeseness
  1036. So there's a bit that we missed in here where we free the other slaves
  1037. 7:49
  1038. Stanto
  1039. UAE lagging? are you playing it on a computer for ants?
  1040. 7:49
  1041. Nevik
  1042. how do you make force fields
  1043. 7:49
  1044. Oughtobe2
  1045. you hold down one of the buttons i think
  1046. 7:49
  1047. Dubblix
  1048. The other slaves aren't important
  1049. 7:49
  1050. Mimness
  1051. First you do your jedi training...
  1052. 7:49
  1053. Oughtobe2
  1054. if you hold it down really long its a super blast
  1055. shorter time its a force field
  1056. i think
  1057. awesome
  1058. isn't the game over?
  1059. 7:50
  1060. Mimness
  1061. Cheeseness says: The idea there is to randomly jam buttons
  1062. 7:50
  1063. nads
  1064. weeeeeeeeeeeeee
  1065. 7:50
  1066. Oughtobe2
  1067. I remember being like, wow, I was so close to beating it as a kid
  1068. 7:50
  1069. Syd
  1070. It's almost over. There's a bit more
  1071.  
  1072. 7:50
  1073. Cheeseness
  1074. Stanto: Not sure what it is. I've not seen this problem playing it previously, only since upgrading to F17
  1075. 7:50
  1076. Nevik
  1077. is the game short?
  1078. 7:50
  1079. AlexVSharp
  1080. Now my favourite part...
  1081. 7:50
  1082. Syd
  1083. The game is short if you know what you're doing
  1084. 7:50
  1085. Oughtobe2
  1086. I don't remember this part
  1087.  
  1088. 7:50
  1089. Cheeseness
  1090. Hey AlexVSharp
  1091. 7:50
  1092. Nevik
  1093. lol
  1094. disk
  1095. 7:50
  1096. AlexVSharp
  1097. Hey Cheese.
  1098. 7:51
  1099. Oughtobe2
  1100. I thought its the ending now
  1101. oh yea
  1102. 7:51
  1103. Nevik
  1104. girl aliens?
  1105. 7:51
  1106. Dubblix
  1107. Check out those curvy polygons WINK
  1108. 7:51
  1109. Stanto
  1110. Awwww yeeeeah
  1111. 7:51
  1112. Oughtobe2
  1113. you gotta throw some alien virgins in there...
  1114. 7:51
  1115. AlexVSharp
  1116. It's a public bathroom.
  1117. 7:51
  1118. Stanto
  1119. concubines
  1120. 7:51
  1121. Mimness
  1122. Cheeseness says: This part was censored, they made him take out the bum crack on the swimming girls
  1123. 7:51
  1124. Nevik
  1125. giggity
  1126. 7:52
  1127. Stanto
  1128. My how times have changed
  1129. 7:52
  1130. Dubblix
  1131. This reminds me of Flash Gordon
  1132. 7:52
  1133. Stanto
  1134. *cough* witcher *cough*
  1135. 7:52
  1136. Oughtobe2
  1137. nice
  1138. 7:52
  1139. AlexVSharp
  1140. Oddly enough I don't remember it being censored in the DOS version I played...
  1141.  
  1142. 7:52
  1143. Cheeseness
  1144. Whoops
  1145. 7:52
  1146. Oughtobe2
  1147. uh oh
  1148. this game is so cool
  1149. 7:52
  1150. Stanto
  1151. lol
  1152. 7:53
  1153. Mimness
  1154. Cheeseness says: I can't remember where it was censored but in the documentary Eric talks about how stupid it was
  1155. 7:53
  1156. Nevik
  1157. slap fight
  1158. 7:53
  1159. Mimness
  1160. Cheeseness says: Atmosphere! More atmosphere! And drama!
  1161. 7:53
  1162. Oughtobe2
  1163. come on....
  1164. almost there
  1165. 7:53
  1166. AlexVSharp
  1167. Also I'm almost certain there was music in this part.
  1168. 7:53
  1169. Dubblix
  1170. Yeah, I don't know which is which anymore
  1171. 7:53
  1172. Syd
  1173. I think it was the SNES version that was censored. I'm not sure if any of the others were though
  1174. 7:53
  1175. Oughtobe2
  1176. pull the lever
  1177. nice
  1178. 7:53
  1179. Stanto
  1180. ORBITAL CANNON
  1181. 7:53
  1182. Syd
  1183. Nintendo was pretty strict back then when it came to what sort of content could be in games on their consoles
  1184. 7:54
  1185. Oughtobe2
  1186. Yay
  1187. game over, right?
  1188. 7:54
  1189. Mimness
  1190. Cheeseness says: Yeah it might have been the SNES version. Actually I believe in the SNES version they wanted to change the soundtrack and Eric was dead against them and in the end he sent them this looping infinite fax
  1191. 7:54
  1192. Permafry_42
  1193. yeah look at the censorship of earthbound
  1194. 7:54
  1195. Syd
  1196. Yep, this is the end
  1197. 7:54
  1198. Nevik
  1199. earthbound was censored?
  1200. 7:54
  1201. Oughtobe2
  1202. Man, I was so close as a kid....
  1203.  
  1204. 7:54
  1205. Cheeseness
  1206. So, the bit that's missing has you meet up and part with your friend again, giving a bit more connection between the two of you
  1207. This moved me when I first finished it (still makes me a bit teary ^_^ )
  1208. 7:54
  1209. Permafry_42
  1210. in the part where you go to the dream world ness was originally naked
  1211. 7:54
  1212. Oughtobe2
  1213. At least, I got to beat it when the updated version came out
  1214. Epic
  1215.  
  1216. 7:55
  1217. Cheeseness
  1218. I love those clouds
  1219. 7:55
  1220. Permafry_42
  1221. sweet ending
  1222.  
  1223. 7:55
  1224. Cheeseness
  1225. And this music
  1226.  
  1227. 7:55
  1228. Oughtobe2
  1229. Neverending story
  1230. 7:55
  1231. Nevik
  1232. why no seqel
  1233. 7:55
  1234. Oughtobe2
  1235. Eric Chahi
  1236. 7:55
  1237. AlexVSharp
  1238. This got me extremely angry when I finished it actually. I thought the guy died. Nowadays I'm just angry he didn't... >_<
  1239. 7:55
  1240. Nevik
  1241. or is there
  1242. 7:55
  1243. AlexVSharp
  1244. There is a sequel.
  1245.  
  1246. 7:55
  1247. Cheeseness
  1248. So more or less a one man effort, creating new tech that never before existed took about 3 years
  1249. 7:55
  1250. Oughtobe2
  1251. Flashback is an unoficial sequel
  1252. 7:55
  1253. AlexVSharp
  1254. And it's mad.
  1255. *bad.
  1256.  
  1257. 7:55
  1258. Cheeseness
  1259. Heart Of The Alien is the sequel
  1260. 7:55
  1261. Oughtobe2
  1262. They are remaking Flashback right now
  1263. 7:55
  1264. Nevik
  1265. there is
  1266. nice
  1267. 7:55
  1268. Oughtobe2
  1269. its going to be so awesome
  1270. of yea
  1271. 7:55
  1272. Stanto
  1273. Flashback isn't the sequel
  1274.  
  1275. 7:55
  1276. Cheeseness
  1277. Eric didn't have any input into it though
  1278. 7:55
  1279. Oughtobe2
  1280. heart of the alien
  1281.  
  1282. 7:55
  1283. Cheeseness
  1284. And it's apparently not so good
  1285. 7:55
  1286. Oughtobe2
  1287. I forgot about that
  1288.  
  1289. 7:56
  1290. Cheeseness
  1291. (I've not played it
  1292. 7:56
  1293. Oughtobe2
  1294. Its not too bad
  1295. 7:56
  1296. AlexVSharp
  1297. As for Flashback, it too had a sequel.
  1298. 7:56
  1299. GameClubFan_035052 left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
  1300. 7:56
  1301. Oughtobe2
  1302. Flashback remake is gonna be so awesome
  1303. 7:56
  1304. Dubblix
  1305. Man, I miss the 90s
  1306. 7:56
  1307. Nevik
  1308. you made me lose the game
  1309. 7:56
  1310. Oughtobe2
  1311. whats the other awesome platformer?
  1312. Shadow Cover or
  1313. 7:56
  1314. GameClubFan_446026 left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
  1315. 7:56
  1316. Oughtobe2
  1317. Shadow Complex
  1318.  
  1319. 7:56
  1320. Cheeseness
  1321. There were lots of awesome platformers!
  1322. 7:56
  1323. Permafry_42
  1324. looking forwards to doing the next stream
  1325. 7:56
  1326. Oughtobe2
  1327. I can't wait for its sequel
  1328. Shadow Complex 2 needs to come out
  1329. 7:57
  1330. Syd
  1331. Yep, next week is Permafry_42's first stream for us.
  1332. 7:57
  1333. Oughtobe2
  1334. Flashback remake
  1335. 7:57
  1336. Permafry_42
  1337. braid was a fun puzzle platformer
  1338. 7:57
  1339. Dubblix
  1340. Now to punish myself and play Monkey Island 4...
  1341. 7:57
  1342. Oughtobe2
  1343. OTW 3
  1344. 7:57
  1345. nads
  1346. great work cheeseness
  1347. 7:57
  1348. Dubblix
  1349. Just kidding, I don't hate myself that much
  1350.  
  1351. 7:57
  1352. Cheeseness
  1353. So, thoughts on Another World?
  1354. 7:57
  1355. Oughtobe2
  1356. and Bionic Commando rearmed 3
  1357. 7:57
  1358. Permafry_42
  1359. and i love the ratchet and clank games that are platformers
  1360.  
  1361. 7:57
  1362. Cheeseness
  1363. How many people had previously played it?
  1364. 7:57
  1365. Oughtobe2
  1366. those aren't really platformers
  1367. those are mario 64'ers
  1368. 7:57
  1369. Dubblix
  1370. I hadn't heard of it. Was really fun to watch you play, Cheeseness
  1371. 7:57
  1372. Permafry_42
  1373. same difference
  1374. 7:58
  1375. Oughtobe2
  1376. I don't think so
  1377.  
  1378. 7:58
  1379. Cheeseness
  1380. Dubblix: If you're interested, check out the Steam version - it's got some neat extras as well
  1381. It's on GOG as well
  1382. 7:58
  1383. Oughtobe2
  1384. 3d platformers and 2d platformers are a big difference
  1385. 7:58
  1386. Stanto
  1387. Heart of the Alien has been reverse engineered
  1388. 7:58
  1389. Syd
  1390. It's really impressive that Another World was made almost entirely by a single perrson
  1391. 7:58
  1392. Dubblix
  1393. I may have to add it to my wishlist
  1394. 7:58
  1395. Stanto
  1396. http://hota.sourceforge.net/
  1397. 7:58
  1398. Oughtobe2
  1399. Yea if you guys saw that for the first time, seriously buy the remake, its awesome
  1400.  
  1401. 7:58
  1402. Cheeseness
  1403. I think it's even more impressive that this was the first game (so far as I'm aware) that used vector based graphics
  1404. 7:58
  1405. Permafry_42
  1406. yeah i really enjoyed it, and hopefully i'll finish it some time
  1407. 7:58
  1408. Oughtobe2
  1409. First platformer
  1410. 7:58
  1411. Syd
  1412. The Steam version of Another World comes with Amiga images, which is what Cheeseness streamed
  1413.  
  1414. 7:58
  1415. Cheeseness
  1416. And not only did Eric design and build the game himself, but he invented/developed the rendering techniques behind it
  1417. 7:59
  1418. Oughtobe2
  1419. but definitely not first game
  1420. 7:59
  1421. nads
  1422. i think it's one of those games that would be still very well receive if it was release today by an indie developer.. it holds up that well
  1423. 7:59
  1424. Oughtobe2
  1425. That tank game used vector
  1426. 7:59
  1427. Dubblix
  1428. Perma, what's up next week?
  1429. 7:59
  1430. Oughtobe2
  1431. Stellar 7
  1432. a few others
  1433. 7:59
  1434. Permafry_42
  1435. pj sam 1
  1436. 7:59
  1437. Oughtobe2
  1438. Some of the earliest games ever made were vector based
  1439. 7:59
  1440. Dubblix
  1441. Wasn't that on a bundle recently?
  1442. 7:59
  1443. Oughtobe2
  1444. But I think this was the first platformer
  1445. 7:59
  1446. AlexVSharp
  1447. I played it multiple times long ago. However the DOS version. It had much better/more music and sound effects.
  1448.  
  1449. 8:00
  1450. Cheeseness
  1451. Oughtobe2: They weren't filled polygons in Stellar 7 though were they?
  1452. 8:00
  1453. Permafry_42
  1454. nah different series
  1455. 8:00
  1456. Dubblix
  1457. I'm definitely thinking of something else
  1458. 8:00
  1459. nads
  1460. just look at the Vectrex console
  1461. 8:00
  1462. Permafry_42
  1463. serious sam was bundled recently
  1464. 8:00
  1465. Oughtobe2
  1466. I think so, I remember not liking the game much, but people going nuts over it...
  1467.  
  1468. 8:00
  1469. Cheeseness
  1470. Another World for Android was featured in a recent Humble Bundle promotion
  1471. 8:00
  1472. Oughtobe2
  1473. And the sequel to Stellar 7 used vectors I think
  1474. 8:01
  1475. Dubblix
  1476. I've been in bundle heaven the last few weeks. Amazon launched their indy market and Humble Bundle's been going nuts
  1477.  
  1478. 8:01
  1479. Cheeseness
  1480. Either way, Eric didn't have any libraries or references to draw upon
  1481. And he wrote his own graphic editor
  1482. 8:01
  1483. Oughtobe2
  1484. Humble Bundle should put make an awesome platformer bundle
  1485. with flashback, this game, Bionic commando rearmed 1 and 2
  1486. Shadow Complex
  1487. oh, thats not for pc
  1488. 8:01
  1489. nads
  1490. was the early Alone in the Dark games vector based?
  1491. 8:01
  1492. Oughtobe2
  1493. I think so
  1494. 8:01
  1495. nads
  1496. for the characters?
  1497. 8:02
  1498. Oughtobe2
  1499. I can't remember
  1500. 8:02
  1501. Dubblix
  1502. Oh man, I'd watch someone stream Alone in the Dark 1
  1503. 8:02
  1504. Permafry_42
  1505. alright i got to get going now
  1506. 8:02
  1507. Dubblix
  1508. That game was pretty unforgiving
  1509.  
  1510. 8:02
  1511. Cheeseness
  1512. Thanks for coming, Permafry_42
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