Dec 12 15:00:21 <PANKANK>	will technology never cease to amaze
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Dec 12 15:41:21 <Home_Stranner>	Weird.
Dec 12 15:41:25 <Home_Stranner>	I don't know why I disconnected.
Dec 12 15:42:32 <Home_Stranner>	Did I miss any discussions?
Dec 12 15:43:07 <AQR>	A Clamp update happened
Dec 12 15:44:27 <birthdaymagey>	Not much https://pastebin.com/wxHgM1Gi
Dec 12 15:44:51 <Home_Stranner>	Thanks Mage.
Dec 12 15:44:56 <birthdaymagey>	No prob
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Dec 12 15:51:32 <Home_Stranner>	I'm liking Talon so far.
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Dec 12 16:01:37 <Techpriest_Stranner>	I see.
Dec 12 16:01:46 <Techpriest_Stranner>	The internet in the house is unstable at the moment.
Dec 12 16:01:51 <Techpriest_Stranner>	Interesting.
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Dec 12 16:04:58 <birthdaymagey>	You could try reseting it?  Or telling your family to leave the microwave alone!
Dec 12 16:08:04 <Home_Stranner>	If it goes down again I'll log onto my dad's system and look at the modem/router log to see what is going on.
Dec 12 16:10:08 <hrothar-laptop>	Hour late The Rogue update because i fell asleep
Dec 12 16:11:03 <birthdaymagey>	The unreliable narrator time loss is now happening in character and out of character!
Dec 12 16:12:17 <Lagotrope>	Unnatural Selection Update
Dec 12 16:13:01 <birthdaymagey>	Lago, there's no pants / shirt separation line in 1/2 in The Rogue
Dec 12 16:13:38 <Lagotrope>	oops
Dec 12 16:13:40 <PANKANK>	jumpsuit rouge
Dec 12 16:13:44 <hrothar-laptop>	oh bluh, i should have caught that
Dec 12 16:14:03 <Home_Stranner>	You don't change clothes when you get to the library?
Dec 12 16:14:08 <birthdaymagey>	I mean a art hippie could be wearing a jumpsuit, but she isn't anywhere else
Dec 12 16:15:42 <birthdaymagey>	Also we've learned rule 1 of going rogue: have a useful skill.
Dec 12 16:17:41 <hrothar-laptop>	honestly that's Rule 1 for life most anywhere
Dec 12 16:22:23 <Slinko>	oh i can't actually leave comments on magey's BL thing :X
Dec 12 16:22:58 <birthdaymagey>	Oh RIP.
Dec 12 16:23:28 <birthdaymagey>	Do you want me to try and enable them or do you wanna just copy paste and do what you did before
Dec 12 16:25:13 <Teddypimm_>	"Hrm... as long as the dye is disposed of as well, then... I've dyed my fur." Should the first dye be fur?
Dec 12 16:26:56 <Slinko>	either or~
Dec 12 16:27:00 <Slinko>	also happy birbday!!
Dec 12 16:28:55 <birthdaymagey>	Thank you Slinko
Dec 12 16:29:40 <Typo>	oh right hapbday!
Dec 12 16:29:47 <Typo>	I don't think I said that yet!
Dec 12 16:29:54 <birthdaymagey>	Thank you Typo too
Dec 12 16:31:02 <birthdaymagey>	Hmmm.  So in The Rogue, I figure our basic approach is we model our protagonist like she's newly homeless, from a domestic abuse situation.  If we don't want her spending the night on the streets or getting dragged into an uglier situation quick, we need to put her in the hands of whatever social services there are for this kind of thing, ASAP.
Dec 12 16:32:55 <PANKANK>	yeah I figure the first thing most rouges do after panicing is call the ultra hive for direction
Dec 12 16:34:25 <Teddypimm_>	Hmm, I'm not sure if the first option will work for Likol, since the personality is supposed to be a variant of himself. You'd need to identify what elements are common between the two personalities so you don't reinforce both.
Dec 12 16:34:36 <Teddypimm_>	And Likol can't exactly go back to his hive at the moment.
Dec 12 16:35:12 <birthdaymagey>	Oh, I was talking about Mac, not Likol.
Dec 12 16:35:42 <Lagotrope>	and yes teddy the first dye should be fur
Dec 12 16:36:26 <birthdaymagey>	And PANKANK, I sort of assume a lot of rogues just wander around in a hopeless daze for a while until they realize it got dark / it's cold / they're hungry, and then start making bad decisions trying to deal with immediate problems.
Dec 12 16:37:26 <birthdaymagey>	People in denial, or victims of abuse, don't have great track records for reaching out for help in a timely manner, which I figure is our best analogue for a new rogue.
Dec 12 16:37:40 <Lagotrope>	was going to say that denial would also be a big factor
Dec 12 16:38:06 <Lagotrope>	and going to roguetown should be the first spot someone goes to for services, but it's also admitting to oneself that they are in fact a rogue
Dec 12 16:39:01 <birthdaymagey>	Part of the problem right now is we don't know if roguetown is a place where you're actually likely to find social services, or just the slummy part of the city rogues inhabit.
Dec 12 16:39:30 <birthdaymagey>	And fresh meat in that kind of environment could very well be taken advantage of by other rogues.
Dec 12 16:39:37 <Lagotrope>	those are fair thoughts
Dec 12 16:40:03 <Lagotrope>	(and most individuals in hives wouldn't really know the details, either)
Dec 12 16:45:21 <Teddypimm_>	I know it'd be a bad idea to show anyone else the laptops, but I wonder if the doc would be able to make any sense of the hive reconstruction project files.
Dec 12 16:46:30 <birthdaymagey>	I figure if we walk right into the slums, she probably get mugged and loses her cash, and the art supplies get taken for tagging.
Dec 12 16:48:35 <birthdaymagey>	Trusting the doctor with any data would be a pretty big step, yeah, Teddy.
Dec 12 16:58:35 <birthdaymagey>	For more morbid speculation, a rogue selling herself on the street might not even be viable, as unpleasant / fucked up empathy would reduce the potential client base to aliens and other rogues without better prospects.
Dec 12 17:01:50 <hrothar3>	This is a sfw quest so hopefully it doesn't go that far
Dec 12 17:02:10 <hrothar3>	Maybe comics if anyone is into that
Dec 12 17:03:16 <birthdaymagey>	I mean realistic depictions of desperation or poverty motivated prostitution would be pretty unsexy either way.
Dec 12 17:04:04 <hrothar3>	Yeah
Dec 12 17:04:12 <birthdaymagey>	And I'm assuming terrible things are still within the realm of possibility, even if they happen offscreen.
Dec 12 17:04:29 <hrothar3>	Yup
Dec 12 17:05:07 <hrothar3>	Sex stuff is probably the only thing I'd put off screen
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Dec 12 17:15:54 <Dan>	Yo. I miss anything at the final?