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  1. [11:19] <04~Kinzove> !seen joethehobo
  2. [11:19] <12@Sheeple> 3Kinzove, joethehobo 10joined3 #nest 10wks 6days 4hrs 7mins 33secs 10ago.
  3. [11:21] <&rayne> O_o
  4. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: hey
  5. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=2002782
  6. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: What about him
  7. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: hes running around trying to sell your faction stats
  8. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: or atleast he says
  9. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Faction stats? of what?
  10. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: 3Kinzove, joethehobo 10joined3 #nest 10wks 6days 4hrs 7mins 33secs 10ago.
  11. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Not sure his data would be very accurate
  12. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: idk...way it sounds he might have a copy of your torn stats
  13. [11:21] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: just letting you know
  14. [11:22] <&rayne> bounty him?
  15. [11:22] <@Thrie_Mobile> D'idée pull him from tornstats?
  16. [11:22] <04~Kinzove> Hes not on anything.
  17. [11:22] <04~Kinzove> So im not sure what hes peddling
  18. [11:23] <&rayne> i still say bounty him :P
  19. [11:24] <@Thrie_Mobile> I agree with rayne. I'll contribute
  20. [11:24] <@Thrie_Mobile> Keep him bounties 24X7
  21. [11:24] <&PMV> hes probably copy pasted it all
  22. [11:25] <&PMV> but bounties galore ftw
  23. [11:25] <04~Kinzove> Im getting Muttley to find out more information for me
  24. [11:25] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Can you ask how much hes selling info for
  25. [11:25] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: fyi yeah they hit me today
  26. [11:25] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: And what it is?
  27. [11:25] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: sure i can look into it for you
  28. [11:25] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Where did you see he was selling?
  29. [11:25] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: i was just passed the msg from a faction mate
  30. [11:25] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: let me get some details
  31. [11:25] <&PMV> muttley may also be talking out of his ass too, but would be interesting
  32. [11:26] <04~Kinzove> Well I do have plenty of 3rd party friends
  33. [11:26] <&PMV> its not the first time hes done something like that trying to pit a faction against someone he doesnt like
  34. [11:26] <04~Kinzove> I can use to find out
  35. [11:26] <04~Kinzove> Muttley has no bad blood towards me
  36. [11:27] <04~Kinzove> We were in Elimination team together
  37. [11:27] <04~Kinzove> and we talked a fair bit about stuff
  38. [11:27] <04~Kinzove> working towards helping eachother
  39. [11:27] <04~Kinzove> Tho
  40. [11:28] <04~Kinzove> Muttley did tell Scootaloo to attack our back terriortary yesterday
  41. [11:28] <04~Kinzove> unaware that scoot would share it with me
  42. [11:28] <04~Kinzove> so hes the kind of player that will do things for himself
  43. [11:28] <04~Kinzove> and i did also get it confirmed that ID and LT are allies
  44. [11:28] <&PMV> yea, thats why JFA doesnt like him
  45. [11:28] <04~Kinzove> but anyone with 2 brain cells could have worked that out
  46. [11:29] <&PMV> he did some things with his e-chick with JFA, got a few of them banned over it, then ran off
  47. [11:29] <&PMV> I dont have all the details
  48. [11:29] <&rayne> O_o
  49. [11:30] <04~Kinzove> your talking about him and lily
  50. [11:31] <&PMV> yea
  51. [11:32] <&rayne> i need to start who is who in torn :P
  52. [11:33] <&rayne> to learn
  53. [11:34] <04~Kinzove> What would you like to know?
  54. [11:34] <&rayne> everything
  55. [11:35] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: Muttley: hi, are you selling spies on JFB joethehobo: not spies sorry joethehobo: wait joethehobo: jfb joethehobo: is just fer birds?
  56. joethehobo: oh wow joethehobo: yes i have those :D Muttley: yes joethehobo: i have full list joethehobo: u wanna buy? Muttley: id rather you just give them to me joethehobo: why would i do that :P Muttley: lol joethehobo: give me an incentive lol Muttley: figured that joethehobo: im lazy like all hobos are :P
  57. [11:36] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Ask how recent they are
  58. [11:36] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: Muttley: how old are they joethehobo: small cash works :P joethehobo: uhh joethehobo: lemme check
  59. [11:37] <&rayne> what a dick
  60. [11:37] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: joethehobo: augest 24th :P
  61. [11:38] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: joethehobo: augest 24th :P
  62. [11:38] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: lol
  63. [11:38] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: lol what a little fukin dick
  64. [11:38] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: So he's trying to sell intel from 5.5 weeks ago on a faction that daily trains
  65. [11:39] <@Thrie_Mobile> Seems thats his story
  66. [11:39] <@Thrie_Mobile> Now you know who told LT we were going to attack
  67. [11:40] <&CrazedOne> I'm still not 100% sold it was him..the dude ties his using velcro..not sure he's the one who crafted that mail
  68. [11:41] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: is joe the one that told you guys we were stacking for war then?
  69. [11:41] <04~Kinzove> Ill just ask
  70. [11:41] <04~Kinzove> :P
  71. [11:41] <04~Kinzove> But he is trying to sell off the entire faction intel from August 24th
  72. [11:42] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: joethehobo: but i would assume you can predict the stat increase to a certain degree? Muttley: thought it was recent, sorry to bother you joethehobo: u dont want? joethehobo: will give it for real cheap tho joethehobo: :P
  73. [11:42] <&PMV> lol
  74. [11:42] <04~Kinzove> 5.5 weeks old
  75. [11:42] <04~Kinzove> isnt recent
  76. [11:43] <&PMV> still paints the faction as a whole, and you can predict where people are. Pretty shifty
  77. [11:43] <&PMV> bounty material imo
  78. [11:43] <04~Kinzove> It's almost like he joined us then for the sole reason
  79. [11:43] <04~Kinzove> of stealing our stats
  80. [11:43] * @Thrie_Mobile (Thrie_Mobi@Torn-7F62EA9C.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Client exited)
  81. [11:44] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: lol i wouldnt give him a dollar for yalls stats, i frown on dudes like him
  82. [11:44] <04~Kinzove> im flying to rehab atm
  83. [11:46] <04~Kinzove> Muttley is trying to play dumb now
  84. [11:46] <04~Kinzove> about the leak
  85. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: and im not sure where the guys heard it from, that yall were stacking
  86. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: wasnt really a surprise i personally knew yall were going back to war then
  87. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Hmm I was sent from players in your faction, two mails that was sent out to my faction that you knew.
  88. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: So somone from us told you.
  89. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: And we had no plans to go back to war then actually.
  90. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: So not sure why you personally thought that either.
  91. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: )...cant tell you everything kinz
  92. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Well you just caught yourself in a lie.
  93. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: So not sure what else I can take at face value now.
  94. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: hahaha
  95. [11:47] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: what
  96. [11:49] -Irc.Torn.Com:@#motherbird- ChanServ invited Thrie_Mobile into the channel.
  97. [11:49] * Thrie_Mobile (Thrie_Mobi@Torn-7F62EA9C.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #motherbird
  98. [11:49] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Thrie_Mobile
  99. [11:49] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: why would i lie to you
  100. [11:49] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: whats to gain
  101. [11:49] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Who knows with you.
  102. [11:49] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: thought i was being friendly
  103. [11:49] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: But for someone who just said "wasnt really a surprise i personally knew yall were going back to war then"was only decided by myself personally when you declared.
  104. [11:49] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: And I know for a fact someone leaked that information
  105. [11:49] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: I just want to know if it was Joe
  106. [11:49] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Or if it was someone else
  107. 11:49] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: so i can remove them.
  108. [11:50] <&PMV> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a43kowi2ncI
  109. [11:50] <12@Sheeple> 00,04YouTube! 04- it was me (short) (liar liar)
  110. [11:50] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: jeez man cant believe you just called me a lier
  111. [11:50] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: wont joe who told us
  112. [11:50] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: they are still in ya faction too
  113. [11:50] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: )
  114. [11:50] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: good luck digging them out
  115. [11:51] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: When you say one thing, and then say another that is lying.
  116. [11:52] <@Thrie_Mobile> Now he's fucking with you
  117. [11:53] <&rayne> why do you say that Thrie_Mobile?
  118. [11:53] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: ok sure...maybe im not typing it right or you read it wrong but whatever...last time i try to be civil wit you..shoulda just kept the shit to myself
  119. [11:53] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: lol
  120. [11:53] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Don't be all upset
  121. [11:53] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: I appreciate you coming with me about the joe thing.
  122. [11:53] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: But the leak is another issue.
  123. [11:54] <@Thrie_Mobile> He's still in your faction good luck digging them out
  124. [11:54] <04~Kinzove> Muttley: Muttley: they are still in ya faction too Muttley: ) Muttley: good luck digging them out
  125. [11:54] <04~Kinzove> Kinzove: Yes I read what you said/
  126. [11:55] <04~Kinzove> well slirus was with LT
  127.  
  128. [11:55] <04~Kinzove> before they were with us
  129. [11:55] <@Thrie_Mobile> Rayne asked why. I was explaining
  130. [11:55] <04~Kinzove> Doom was also in LT before he was with us
  131. [11:55] <04~Kinzove> who was friends with slirus
  132. [11:55] <04~Kinzove> thats how I would start
  133. [11:56] <04~Kinzove> To think I was considering buying Supernova
  134. [11:56] <04~Kinzove> but when its owned by muttley/lily
  135. [11:56] <04~Kinzove> maybe not.
  136. [11:56] <&PMV> how much were you willing to spend lol
  137. [11:56] <04~Kinzove> they were asking 2-2.5b
  138. [11:57] <@Mack_Daddy> wonder if im trying too hard to read between the lines but what's with the usage of "they" and "them"...
  139. [11:57] <&PMV> ah
  140. [11:57] <&PMV> muttley and lily are e-couples or something
  141. [11:58] <04~Kinzove> You think there might be more than one Mack_Daddy ?
  142. [11:59] <@Mack_Daddy> it could be nothing, i just find it curious his language was to make it plural
  143. [12:00] <&PMV> oh, I see what you meant
  144. [12:00] <&PMV> meh, not like you can do much about a tornstats leak unless you want to question everyone on it
  145. [12:00] <04~Kinzove> yeah who possibly knows
  146. [12:00] <04~Kinzove> well the tornstats leak is from him obviously
  147. [12:00] <04~Kinzove> CrazedOne he had access to tornstats right?
  148. [12:01] <&CrazedOne> I think he was one of them that actually did sign up yeah
  149. [12:01] <04~Kinzove> Right
  150. [12:01] <04~Kinzove> so that information came from him then
  151. [12:01] <04~Kinzove> The information on the leak then could have been anyone.
  152. [12:01] <&PMV> muttley had tornstats access?
  153. [12:01] <04~Kinzove> Literally could have been core thats been with us for 2 years
  154. [12:01] <04~Kinzove> No PMV
  155. [12:01] <&CrazedOne> and if he did he would have access to it..but we can change that going forward to making it so everyone has to change it so only leaders can view it
  156. [12:01] <04~Kinzove> Joethehobo is selling 5 weeks old stats informatiuon
  157. 12:02] <04~Kinzove> before he left the faction
  158. [12:02] <04~Kinzove> he obviously took screenies of it
  159. [12:02] <04~Kinzove> Yes
  160. [12:02] <04~Kinzove> change that now CrazedOne
  161. [12:02] <&PMV> I would just bounty joe
  162. [12:02] <&PMV> and tell him to give up his source to stop the bounties
  163. [12:02] <04~Kinzove> Also going forward
  164. [12:02] <04~Kinzove> Im not going to be directly telling the mass faction who the target or the spefiic plan is
  165. [12:02] <&CrazedOne> 1 of 2 ways to find out I think..legit pay off..would likely cost a lot, and no guarantee it's accurate, I'd be of the belief it would be..or just kick everyone out that even has a drip of a chance of being suspect
  166. [12:03] <04~Kinzove> I guess this is the problem
  167. [12:03] <04~Kinzove> when a faction gets to the size we are
  168. [12:04] <04~Kinzove> we're what 97 members?
  169. [12:04] <&CrazedOne> and also, being shared w/ leaders only has to be done by the players..not us
  170. [12:04] <&CrazedOne> everyone would have to manually change their settings
  171. [12:04] <&PMV> the info can be seen from spies anyways, just costs something at that point
  172. [12:04] <04~Kinzove> oh well thats a chore then
  173. [12:04] <&CrazedOne> yeah, just costly and pain in the ass to spy everyone
  174. [12:04] <&CrazedOne> but could be done for sure
  175. [12:04] <&PMV> not really, we have spies on everyone ;)
  176. [12:05] <&PMV> but still
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