baby in breech

Baby in Breech
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Mona Morstein
Message 1 of 8 , Feb 8 9:38 PM
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Hello, Docs,

I have a patient whose daughter is pregnant and the baby is in breech. Her Ob/Gyn will try a technique to flip and if that doesn’t happen wants to do a c-section, which is not a good idea for this patient (or any) as the daughter has had problems with recurrent MRSA.  The mom asked me for advice on helping the flip the baby.

Are there any go to herbs, homeopathics (I have not taken any constitutional case and just asking a general question as we know for bruising injury there is arnica, etc), nutrients, etc, or naturopathic techniques to help turn a breech baby?  Of course, in med school we were shown some French doc who simply gently reached into the squatting woman and pulled out the breech baby by its legs.  One, two, three, healthy baby was born.

This woman is in the Boston area.  Any NDs knowledgeable about childbirth there?

Mona Morstein, ND, DHANP
Tempe, AZ



Angela McKaye
Message 2 of 8 , Feb 8 9:46 PM
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You might try to find a chiropractor who practices the Webster technique for getting babies to turn.

Angela McKaye, DC, ND, LMT (8158)
Lake Oswego, Oregon



Emily Kane
Message 3 of 8 , Feb 8 11:05 PM
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UB 67 at the outer proximal corner of the baby toe nail. Small needles bilaterally. Typically strong stimulation for 2-3 minutes is better than retention. A butt down breech is easier to turn than footling.
Emily Kane ND LAc
Juneau AK




Janis Gruska
Message 4 of 8 , Feb 8 11:20 PM
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Hello Mona,

There is a great website with several suggestions/techniques to turn babies out of the breech position. Here is the link: http://www.mybreechbaby.org

My personal experience with working with pregnancy and L&D over the years is that selected intervention(s) need to be repeated for a successful outcome. Don't be discouraged  - try more than one intervention. And once the baby is turned have the mom-to-be perform  squats followed by a full body relaxation technique daily  to encourage baby to stay in position. I have found that addressing emotional concerns with physical interventions to be the most successful.

Best of luck to the soon to be mom.

Cheers,

Janis Gruska, ND
Los Angeles, CA



Susan Roberts
Message 5 of 8 , Feb 9 12:26 AM
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1m pilsitilla gestaionalage makes a big difference earlier the better after35 weeks not so good the last breech I had had a successful version at 36 weeks but ended up with a sexyion anyway becuse the head hadn't been down long enough to efface the cervix

Susan Roberts
Naturopathic Physician



Heidi Peterson
Message 6 of 8 , Feb 9 9:44 AM
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This is another good website for your patient.  It has exercises for her to do at home:
http://spinningbabies.com/

Heidi Peterson, ND
Portland, OR



Anne Van Couvering
Message 7 of 8 , Feb 9 10:26 AM
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I worked with an ND, LAc midwife in school, and we successfully turned three breech babies with UB67 and gentle massage of the womb, encouraging the baby to turn.  The MD technique involves Hugh pitched irritating sounds that are very stressful for the baby and is not that successful - I'd try the acupuncture first.  Also, sometimes babies are breech for a good reason - short cord, cord around the neck, etc.  and yes, breech babies can be successfully born vaginally, but not many docs are taught how any more.

Anne Van Couvering, ND, LMT, CNS
Berkeley, CA



Loretta Osik
Message 8 of 8 , Feb 11 4:30 PM
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Hi Mona,  Unless she has all ready delivered, Needle Bladder 65.  This is the point for breech.  Also call Satya Ambrose for further help.



Loretta Osik, Nd

Danbury, Ct.