IRC Brainstorming

[09:50] <ZONEsama> oh ya, I think we should make the criteria for being on the WoF concrete too.

[09:50] <ZONEsama> I noticed star's edit on the WoF talk page and it seems that a lot of other people are thinking/were thinking the same thing

[09:51] <ZONEsama> there needs to be some consistency with it

[09:51] <ZONEsama> do this, prove you can do it = WoF consideration?

[09:52] <@HatPop> Do you have a link to the talk page? If not I can get there

[09:52] <ZONEsama> http://fanon.clubpenguinwiki.info/wiki/Club_Penguin_Fanon_Wiki_talk:Wall_of_Fame

[09:52] <ZONEsama> there ya go

[09:53] <ZONEsama> perhaps you could nominate people for WoF maybe?

[09:54] <ZONEsama> like the adminship page?

[09:54] <cshox> i nominate myself ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[09:54] <@HatPop> Hm

[09:54] <ZONEsama> I think it would be a lot more stringent and harder to attain than adminship though

[09:56] <ZONEsama> but it seems though that adminship is more based on popularity though, so it may/may not be the same thing

[09:56] <ZONEsama> which shouldn't be the case

[09:56] <@HatPop> Doesn't it work by nomination already?

[09:56] <ZONEsama> WoF should be about high quality articles and contributing to content far beyond the average user

[09:57] <ZONEsama> yes but it doesn't have its own nomination page I don't think

[09:57] <ZONEsama> people just nominate themselves and they vote

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[09:57] <ZONEsama> which kinda contradicts it

[09:57] <ZONEsama> WoF should be a reward thing, not an ego stroke

[09:57] <ZONEsama> and adminship should be given to those with clear, logical thinking, not popularity

[09:58] <ZONEsama> given that I can't really talk about clear logical thinking when it comes to adminship seeing my past instances when I've been sysop or staff though

[09:59] <ZONEsama> lol, try as we might to be otherwise, everyone on this planet is a hypocrit anyhow

[09:59] <@HatPop> Yeah

[09:59] <cshox> theres not really a fair way to decide who should get on wof though with this wiki

[10:00] <cshox> best bet would be nomination, from like a b-crat or somethin

[10:00] <cshox> of course fitting some criteria you put in place

[10:13] <ZONEsama> hmm

[10:13] <ZONEsama> well let's go to basics here

[10:13] <ZONEsama> fame

[10:13] <ZONEsama> clearly the user would have to be a well-known user to a lot of people for starters..

[10:13] <ZONEsama> how is that achieved?

[10:14] <ZONEsama> how do you become well-known on a site?

[10:14] <@HatPop> Longevity?

[10:14] <ZONEsama> contributing to community for one

[10:14] <cshox> quality content

[10:14] <ZONEsama> yes

[10:14] <ZONEsama> so we have quality content, contributing to community, longevity

[10:14] <ZONEsama> let's keep going with this

[10:15] <ZONEsama> how many HQA's does it take to get on the WoF?

[10:19] <ZONEsama> 4? 5?

[10:19] <ZONEsama> what about the elusive UQA?

[10:19] <ZONEsama> 1 UQA article should suffice

[10:19] <cshox> how many hqas does a current wall of famer tend to have

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[10:19] <cshox> and also yeah

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[10:20] <ZONEsama> I think though that if we at least make 1 UQA article one of the requirements for WoF

[10:20] <ZONEsama> it would make people want to put effort in and strive to get it

[10:20] <cshox> yeah that'd be good

[10:20] <ZONEsama> great, there's one requirement we've sorted out

[10:21] <ZONEsama> so celebrities are famous for...

[10:21] <ZONEsama> personality

[10:21] <ZONEsama> and their work

[10:21] <ZONEsama> should well-liked by the community be a requirement?

[10:21] <cshox> a wall of famer should be liked by most of the community for sure

[10:21] <cshox> yeah

[10:22] <ZONEsama> HatPop, EDFan12345, Penstubal, inputs?

[10:22] <@HatPop> Yeah

[10:22] <cshox> you could be the best writer on the wiki but if stir up problems all the time

[10:22] <cshox> not really someone deserving of wof

[10:22] <ZONEsama> also FYI I'm digging this brain-storming thing we've got going on

[10:22] <ZONEsama> okay so we've got

[10:22] <ZONEsama> 1 UQA article and well-liked by the community

[10:23] <ZONEsama> this promotes quality content and happy community

[10:23] <cshox> also longevity like hp said

[10:23] <ZONEsama> yes

[10:23] <cshox> brb

[10:23] <ZONEsama> they would have to be a very active user

[10:24] <ZONEsama> like they can't really just write 1 UQA and be super friendly with everyone for 1 day, get on WoF and then leave

[10:24] <ZONEsama> should the timeframe for WoF consideration be a month?

[10:29] <ZONEsama> a month to evaluate a user should be sufficient time, or should it be more?

[10:32] <cshox> back

[10:32] <cshox> a month sounds good

[10:34] <ZONEsama> okay so we've got 3 requirements; 1 UQA, well-liked and friendly/active in community, and must be active for a month

[10:34] <ZONEsama> let's post this on the site and see where it takes us