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  3. (Stanley) Thank you for
  4. doing this interview.
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  8. (James) Well, thank you for inviting me.
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  12. (Stanley) You're welcome. I would like to
  13. ask you some questions about Gladio B.
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  17. (James) Sure.
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  21. (Stanley) On the way over here,
  22. I read the transcripts
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  26. (Stanley) on the Gladio B series with
  27. Sibel Edmonds,
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  31. (Stanley) and I saw the series in 2013,
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  35. (Stanley) which was kind of mind-blowing.
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  39. (Stanley) But reading the transcripts now,
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  43. (Stanley) we're a year ahead,
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  47. (Stanley) and it really strikes me how
  48. well this ties in with current events.
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  52. (Stanley) Could you say something
  53. about that?
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  57. (James) I think you're exactly right.
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  61. That was, in fact, one of the things Sibel
  62. stressed in that video interview series:
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  66. was that this is an area of the globe
  67. that most people don't know about,
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  71. but they're going to be increasingly
  72. aware of in the future.
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  76. And I think that's already started
  77. to come true.
  78.  
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  81. I mean, for example, we had the
  82. Boston Bombing, obviously,
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  86. talking about Dagestan,
  87. suddenly becoming
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  91. at least something that was <i>mentioned</i>
  92. in the news in America.
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  96. And we're seeing... not necessarily
  97. an <i>increase,</i>
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  101. but certainly <i>ongoing</i> tensions,
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  105. in the Caucasus region
  106. and in Central Asia
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  110. that I think are going to become more
  111. and more important
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  115. as we go out from here.
  116.  
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  119. So I think it is already starting
  120. to come true,
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  124. but I think it still has much more to go.
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  128. I think that the way that people tend
  129. to concentrate on the Middle East now
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  133. is the way that they're going
  134. to be concentrating
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  138. on this region of the globe very soon.
  139.  
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  142. And I think that for people who aware
  143. of that video interview series,
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  147. they're probably ahead of the curve
  148. when it comes to that.
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  152. And I shared your experience, when
  153. I was interviewing Sibel, with that:
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  157. I had a vague idea what
  158. we were talking about,
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  162. but I was learning it at the
  163. same time,
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  167. and it was absolutely mind-blowing
  168. for me as well.
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  172. It put into perspective so many pieces
  173. of the puzzle
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  177. that I had encountered along the way
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  181. but that I didn't know exactly how they
  182. fit together.
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  186. And even now, as I'm coming back to it
  187.  
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  190. and preparing this lecture here
  191. in Groningen
  192.  
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  195. and coming back to some of
  196. that information
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  200. and seeing how it synthesizes in,
  201.  
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  204. as I continue to expand my
  205. understanding of it,
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  209. it continues to...
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  213. it continues to blow my mind in some
  214. ways, the way that it all fits together.
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  218. So, yeah: it was a mind-blowing series,
  219. and I think it is exceptionally important.
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  223. And it is going to be <i>more</i> important as
  224. things continue to play out.
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  228. (Stanley) Yeah. The first time that
  229. I saw it,
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  233. (Stanley) I was a little overwhelmed by
  234. the amount of information,
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  238. (Stanley) the names that are being
  239. named from the beginning,
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  243. (Stanley) like the... Mister Çatlı,
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  247. (James) Yes.
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  251. (Stanley) which is the main figure
  252. in the first of the series.
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  256. (James) Yes.
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  260. (Stanley) Reading it again, it becomes
  261. a little more clear.
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  265. (James) Mm-hm.
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  269. (Stanley) You probably did a lot of
  270. research to do this lecture.
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  274. (Stanley) Could you say something
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  278. (Stanley) about how important it is
  279. to document things like this?
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  283. (Stanley) Yeah, could you just...
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  287. (James) Yes. Well, I think this is
  288. absolutely, essentially important,
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  292. because what Sibel has done with
  293. the interviews that she has given
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  297. is thrown, as you say, so much
  298. information out on the table,
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  302. some of which comes from
  303. her own personal experience.
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  307. But I think almost everything
  308. which she talked about
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  312. is verifiable through various news
  313. stories, documents, court filings...
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  317. There's a huge cookie crumb trail
  318. all over the place
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  322. that would <i>never</i> have made sense.
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  326. I never would have found any
  327. of that information
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  331. without Sibel painting the picture.
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  335. And now I can go and fill in
  336. those details.
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  340. But it's impossible...
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  344. -- for me, at any rate --
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  348. by myself, to do this.
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  352. Which is why, I think, for people
  353. who have had
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  357. that similar mind-blowing experience
  358. with that interview series,
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  362. it's incumbent on them to become
  363. part of this research,
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  367. which is what I'm going to emphasize
  368. in this lecture, in fact, at the end.
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  372. Because there are still many things
  373. that we need more things filled in
  374.  
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  377. with corroborating evidence: news
  378. stories and all of this, that... again,
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  382. I've only started to put those pieces
  383. together, but there's much more to go.
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  387. So I think it's an open-source effort that
  388. will have to continue from here.
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  392. We're really just launching it
  393. at this point.
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  397. (Stanley) Yeah, that's absolutely true.
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  401. (Stanley) Could you say something...
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  405. (Stanley) I personally find it very
  406. significant
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  410. (Stanley) that you've been invited to
  411. speak at this university
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  415. (Stanley) specifically on this subject,
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  419. (Stanley) because it's kind of explosive,
  420. in a way.
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  424. (Stanley) How did you get in touch with
  425. the people from the university?
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  429. How did that contact go?
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  433. (James) Yes. Well, I was contacted
  434. by Tjeerd Andringa,
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  438. who is at the University of Groningen.
  439.  
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  442. I had interviewed him on my podcast
  443. maybe two years ago,
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  447. and so he had suggested this,
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  451. and Studium Generale was running
  452. a lecture series
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  456. -- on geopolitics and resources,
  457. -- Stanley: Yeah.
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  461. (James) and so Tjeerd suggested me
  462. for that series,
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  466. and suggested that Gladio B,
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  470. and how that relates to geopolitics
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  474. and the resource battle in Central Asia
  475. might be a good topic,
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  479. which I obviously agreed;
  480. And so did Studium Generale,
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  484. so it came together quite nicely.
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  488. (Stanley) Yeah. This video I'm making
  489. for <i>ZapLog</i>.
  490.  
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  493. (Stanley) I'm not officially a part of
  494. <i>Zaplog;</i>
  495.  
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  498. (Stanley) It's just something that I'm
  499. involved with on a...
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  503. (Stanley) on a free basis?
  504. How do you say it?
  505.  
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  508. (Stanley) You've just recently opened
  509. your website up to people
  510.  
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  513. -- Stanley: that contribute some money.
  514. -- James: Yes, yes.
  515.  
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  518. (Stanley) As little as one dollar
  519. or 70 Euro cents a month,
  520.  
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  523. (Stanley) you can be a part of the open
  524. source investigation.
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  528. (James) Yes.
  529.  
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  532. (Stanley) Could you say something
  533. about what's important
  534.  
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  537. (Stanley) in developing an open
  538. source community
  539.  
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  542. (Stanley) when it comes to intelligence?
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  546. (James) Yes. Well, I think the key to this
  547. is that it doesn't...
  548.  
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  551. the shape that this takes obviously
  552. doesn't depend on me
  553.  
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  556. or any other individual.
  557.  
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  560. It depends on the community itself,
  561.  
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  564. which is self-selecting.
  565.  
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  568. So it really is what people make of it.
  569.  
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  572. And I have been very, very happy
  573. and impressed
  574.  
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  577. with some of the things that we've
  578. managed to do already,
  579.  
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  582. which is, for example, the MH-17 report,
  583. or others like that,
  584.  
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  587. that literally hundreds of people
  588. contributed to,
  589.  
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  592. speaking all sorts of different languages,
  593. in different parts of the globe.
  594.  
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  597. It's incredible.
  598.  
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  601. So that's the idea of what we're
  602. trying to develop.
  603.  
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  606. And we're going from here.
  607. We're moving forward.
  608.  
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  611. And it's a slow process.
  612.  
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  615. I don't think that what I'm doing
  616. at <i>The Corbett Report</i>
  617.  
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  620. is the be-all and end-all of this.
  621.  
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  624. It's just one tiny little piece
  625. of the puzzle,
  626.  
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  629. but hopefully it's important,
  630.  
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  633. and hopefully other people can
  634. take this idea and run with it,
  635.  
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  638. which is, I think...
  639. when it starts to self-replicate,
  640.  
  641. 138
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  643. and everyone is involved and
  644. is doing this
  645.  
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  648. in whatever way comes to them:
  649. that's the point.
  650.  
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  653. We're looking for that kind
  654. of tipping point.
  655.  
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  658. Because we, right now, have the
  659. technology to do this,
  660.  
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  663. which truly never existed before
  664. in the history of humanity.
  665.  
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  668. We are creating something
  669. very new here.
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  673. (Stanley) Yeah.
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  677. (James) And I don't know what that's
  678. gonna look like. <i>No one</i> knows that.
  679.  
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  682. But if we don't take advantage of it,
  683.  
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  686. if we don't shape it in the way that we
  687. want, towards what we want
  688.  
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  691. -- it'll never happen.
  692. -- Stanley: Yeah.
  693.  
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  696. So I'm taking the bull by the horns,
  697. and let the chips fall where they may
  698.  
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  701. That was a weird mixed analogy,
  702. but really...
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  706. (Stanley) (laughs) Yeah. Like... with
  707. working on <i>ZapLog</i>,
  708.  
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  711. (Stanley) I often run into the same
  712. people,
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  716. (Stanley) and looking at the
  717. Web statistics,
  718.  
  719. 154
  720. 00:07:39,679 --> 00:07:41,925
  721. (Stanley) there are a lot of readers
  722. out there,
  723.  
  724. 155
  725. 00:07:41,925 --> 00:07:44,352
  726. (Stanley) and in the case
  727. of <i>Corbett Report</i>,
  728.  
  729. 156
  730. 00:07:44,352 --> 00:07:46,827
  731. (Stanley) there are many
  732. more readers, probably
  733.  
  734. 157
  735. 00:07:46,827 --> 00:07:51,414
  736. (Stanley) than there are people
  737. that contribute to the comments
  738.  
  739. 158
  740. 00:07:51,414 --> 00:07:54,636
  741. (Stanley) or say something
  742. in the pipeline.
  743.  
  744. 159
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  746. (James) Right.
  747.  
  748. 160
  749. 00:07:55,932 --> 00:07:58,071
  750. (Stanley) Could you say
  751. something about,
  752.  
  753. 161
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  755. (Stanley) maybe to... how do you say it?
  756.  
  757. 162
  758. 00:08:03,588 --> 00:08:08,756
  759. (Stanley) stimulate people to put on
  760. their...
  761.  
  762. 163
  763. 00:08:08,756 --> 00:08:11,652
  764. (Stanley) (laughs) this is a Dutch
  765. saying:
  766.  
  767. 164
  768. 00:08:11,652 --> 00:08:14,428
  769. (Stanley) "put on their naughty shoes."
  770. (laughs)
  771.  
  772. 165
  773. 00:08:14,428 --> 00:08:18,506
  774. (Stanley) Which basically means,
  775. just get over...
  776.  
  777. 166
  778. 00:08:18,506 --> 00:08:21,220
  779. (Stanley) just go and do it:
  780. take the risk.
  781.  
  782. 167
  783. 00:08:21,220 --> 00:08:22,311
  784. (James) Right, right.
  785.  
  786. 168
  787. 00:08:22,311 --> 00:08:25,820
  788. (Stanley) Meaning, just take the chance
  789.  
  790. 169
  791. 00:08:25,820 --> 00:08:30,019
  792. (Stanley) of just speaking
  793. your mind, or...
  794.  
  795. 170
  796. 00:08:30,019 --> 00:08:31,799
  797. (James) How to motivate people to that?
  798.  
  799. 171
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  801. (Stanley) Yeah, maybe a little bit of
  802. a motivational...
  803.  
  804. 172
  805. 00:08:34,351 --> 00:08:36,420
  806. (James) Yeah, well, it's difficult for me,
  807.  
  808. 173
  809. 00:08:36,420 --> 00:08:38,917
  810. because the motivation, for me,
  811. comes from within.
  812.  
  813. 174
  814. 00:08:38,917 --> 00:08:39,922
  815. (Stanley) Yeah.
  816.  
  817. 175
  818. 00:08:39,922 --> 00:08:44,386
  819. (James) I don't know why. I'm maybe the
  820. <i>type</i> of person that's motivated by this;
  821.  
  822. 176
  823. 00:08:44,386 --> 00:08:48,989
  824. but for me, it was overwhelming when I
  825. started encountering this information,
  826.  
  827. 177
  828. 00:08:48,989 --> 00:08:53,083
  829. and not ever having seen it before:
  830. Why? Why not?
  831.  
  832. 178
  833. 00:08:53,083 --> 00:08:57,292
  834. And there was no good answer to that.
  835. And the only thing I could think to do
  836.  
  837. 179
  838. 00:08:57,292 --> 00:09:00,411
  839. was to become part of the process
  840. of spreading this to others.
  841.  
  842. 180
  843. 00:09:00,411 --> 00:09:02,481
  844. I had no idea what form that would take.
  845.  
  846. 181
  847. 00:09:02,481 --> 00:09:06,241
  848. Originally I was just going to hand CDs
  849. of podcasts out to people.
  850.  
  851. 182
  852. 00:09:06,241 --> 00:09:09,672
  853. That was a silly idea. (laughter) I was in
  854. Japan. Most people wouldn't even
  855.  
  856. 183
  857. 00:09:09,672 --> 00:09:13,817
  858. understand it, anyway. So I just decided,
  859. "I'll start a website,"
  860.  
  861. 184
  862. 00:09:13,817 --> 00:09:15,505
  863. and it just developed organically.
  864.  
  865. 185
  866. 00:09:15,505 --> 00:09:16,959
  867. There is no master plan.
  868.  
  869. 186
  870. 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:19,323
  871. I have no idea what form it's
  872. going to take.
  873.  
  874. 187
  875. 00:09:19,323 --> 00:09:21,017
  876. All I know is I have to do it.
  877.  
  878. 188
  879. 00:09:21,017 --> 00:09:23,082
  880. And if someone doesn't have
  881. that motivation,
  882.  
  883. 189
  884. 00:09:23,082 --> 00:09:25,180
  885. -- I can't fault them for that.
  886. -- Stanley: No.
  887.  
  888. 190
  889. 00:09:25,180 --> 00:09:27,398
  890. (James) I just don't know
  891. how to incite that.
  892.  
  893. 191
  894. 00:09:27,398 --> 00:09:30,666
  895. I think it's really just a question of
  896. knowledge and understanding,
  897.  
  898. 192
  899. 00:09:30,666 --> 00:09:32,866
  900. and I think once you reach
  901. a certain point
  902.  
  903. 193
  904. 00:09:32,866 --> 00:09:35,958
  905. of discrepancy between what
  906. you're seeing and hearing
  907.  
  908. 194
  909. 00:09:35,958 --> 00:09:38,565
  910. and what you're finding out through
  911. your own research,
  912.  
  913. 195
  914. 00:09:38,565 --> 00:09:41,500
  915. if that doesn't motivate you,
  916. I don't know what will.
  917.  
  918. 196
  919. 00:09:41,504 --> 00:09:44,219
  920. (Stanley) So basically, the readers that
  921. are reading:
  922.  
  923. 197
  924. 00:09:44,219 --> 00:09:46,215
  925. (Stanley) keep reading, keep researching,
  926.  
  927. 198
  928. 00:09:46,215 --> 00:09:48,171
  929. (Stanley) and whatever may come?
  930.  
  931. 199
  932. 00:09:48,171 --> 00:09:49,173
  933. (James) That's it.
  934.  
  935. 200
  936. 00:09:49,173 --> 00:09:51,510
  937. I try not to make too much of a set plan
  938.  
  939. 201
  940. 00:09:51,510 --> 00:09:54,978
  941. of how things are going to work, because
  942. they never work out that way anyway.
  943.  
  944. 202
  945. 00:09:54,978 --> 00:09:57,450
  946. And everything I've done has been organic.
  947.  
  948. 203
  949. 00:09:57,450 --> 00:10:00,803
  950. It's just, "This seems like the thing
  951. I should be doing, so I'll do it."
  952.  
  953. 204
  954. 00:10:00,803 --> 00:10:02,089
  955. And it's worked out so far,
  956.  
  957. 205
  958. 00:10:02,089 --> 00:10:04,505
  959. and who knows if it will work
  960. in the future?
  961.  
  962. 206
  963. 00:10:04,505 --> 00:10:08,174
  964. But that's my agenda. That's my plan.
  965.  
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  967. 00:10:08,174 --> 00:10:10,447
  968. (Stanley) OK. Well, for me personally,
  969. this is
  970.  
  971. 208
  972. 00:10:10,447 --> 00:10:13,780
  973. -- my first video interview with anyone.
  974. -- James: Thank you. Ah.
  975.  
  976. 209
  977. 00:10:13,780 --> 00:10:18,783
  978. (Stanley) I've wanted to do it with some
  979. other people from Holland. There's...
  980.  
  981. 210
  982. 00:10:18,783 --> 00:10:22,465
  983. (Stanley) I don't know his name, but
  984. there's a man that used to work for <i>NRC</i>.
  985.  
  986. 211
  987. 00:10:22,465 --> 00:10:29,645
  988. (Stanley) He's been in a few <i>RT</i>
  989. interviews talking about the propaganda
  990.  
  991. 212
  992. 00:10:29,645 --> 00:10:35,071
  993. (Stanley) against Russia. But I thought
  994. I'd take a chance now and interview you.
  995.  
  996. 213
  997. 00:10:35,071 --> 00:10:38,001
  998. -- So thank you very much!
  999. -- James: I'm glad you did. Thank you.
  1000.  
  1001. 214
  1002. 00:10:38,001 --> 00:10:41,034
  1003. (Stanley) So maybe this is number one
  1004. of a long series. We'll see.
  1005.  
  1006. 215
  1007. 00:10:41,034 --> 00:10:41,943
  1008. (James): I hope so.
  1009.  
  1010. 216
  1011. 00:10:41,943 --> 00:10:44,508
  1012. -- Stanley: OK. Thank you very much.
  1013. -- James: Thank you.
  1014.  
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  1017. [Subtitled by "Adjuvant"]
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