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	=-=	Topic for #projectm was set by *.GameSurge.net on Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:01:31 PM
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	DJxRott	i dont see any logo to proyect M in the SSBB Menu
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	DJxRott	sorry
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	DJxRott	hey dark
	DarkLink	I've never used project M with a USB loaded game, so I don't know how to help you, sorry.
	DJxRott	D:
	DJxRott	okay
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	DarkLink	Yeah, sorry. I would refer you to someone else who could help you, but it doesn't seem like anyone else is around right now.
	DarkLink	You could wait a while and see if anyone shows up.
	DJxRott	i know
	DJxRott	ok
	|Shadow|	DJxRott, did u move the .gct file from \codes to \usb-loader\codes ?
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	DJxRott	ok
	DJxRott	i have a usb loader in a SD
	DJxRott	i dont have usb loader in wii
	DJxRott	and is Configurable USB loader
	|Shadow|	do as i told u
	DJxRott	i have codes in: D:\apps\
	DJxRott	apps\USBloader\
	|Shadow|	DJxRott, move the .gct file from \codes to \usb-loader\codes
	DJxRott	i create a new folder?
	|Shadow|	no
	|Shadow|	DJxRott, move the .gct file from \codes to \usb-loader\codes
	DJxRott	i dont have a usb-loader folder
	|Shadow|	then u do not have cfg usb loader
	DJxRott	i have but is in a SD i open CFG Usb loader whit homebrew channel
	DJxRott	is in a SD not in a wii
	|Shadow|	if u do not have the folder i said u do not have proper cfg usb laoder installed on sd card
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	|Shadow|	https://cfg-loader.googlecode.com/files/Cfg_USB_Loader_70.zip
	DJxRott	ok i download
	|Shadow|	get it and put everything inside the folder that says "in sd root" into the root of your sd card
	DJxRott	ok
	DJxRott	i open whit a homebrew?
	DJxRott	in wii?
	|Shadow|	u will see a folder named "inSDRoot"
	|Shadow|	do as i said above
	DJxRott	yes yes
	DJxRott	i put all in sd
	DJxRott	and the apps i move the folder
	DJxRott	to apps
	DJxRott	the wii not open cfg
	|Shadow|	your not listening
	|Shadow|	guess im done with u
	DJxRott	ok
	DJxRott	i listen
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	|Shadow|	do as i said above
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	Smish	I am having a trouble shoot problem, it loads but then it crashes on me
	Smish	I need help with my troubleshoot
	DJxRott	shadow
	DJxRott	it not runs
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	|Shadow|	DJxRott, get it and put everything inside the folder that says "insdroot" into the root of your sd card
	|Shadow|	this all im going to say
	|Shadow|	and one other thing
	|Shadow|	dont use vbi hooktype
	|Shadow|	use the other selection that is there
	DJxRott	oh who use?
	|Shadow|	and
	|Shadow|	move the .gct file from \codes to \usb-loader\codes
	|Shadow|	thats all the help u need
	|Shadow|	have a nice day
	DJxRott	hey
	DJxRott	hey
	DJxRott	no hooks
	DJxRott	vbi
	DJxRott	wii pad
	DJxRott	GC pad
	|Shadow|	im dont
	DJxRott	GXDraw
	|Shadow|	all i said is all u need
	|Shadow|	to play PM via cfg
	|Shadow|	im done
	|Shadow|	i gtg
	|Shadow|	bye
	DJxRott	hey
	DJxRott	i use ios 249
	DJxRott	or 222
	|Shadow|	your not getting anymore help
	DJxRott	hahaha
	DJxRott	it not works
	DJxRott	lol
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	projectm0908	how come I am always redirected to the homepage whenever I click on the gecko GCT download link?
	DarkLink	I don't know why that is, but you shouldn't need the gecko GCT unless you want to load the old way through gecko for some reason.
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	projectm0908	oh okok thanks
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	scotty_	l
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	projectm4540	i downloaded the project m 3.5 folder, unzipped it in my 2 gb non micro sandisk sd card, then when it loads it says play, then before i press anything and wait long enough a black screen appears and my wii crashes
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	|Shadow|	projectm4540, code dump?
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	projectm4540	Shadow, idk
	projectm4540	i belive so
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	projectm4540	istill dont have a clue
	projectm2645	oi
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	DJxRott	hi
	Faiyz	Hey.
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	LevelCap	oi
	projectm4540	i downloaded the project m 3.5 folder, unzipped it in my 2 gb non micro sandisk sd card, then when it loads it says play, then before i press anything and wait long enough a black screen appears and my wii crashes, can anyone help?
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	DJxRott	hi
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	|Shadow|	projectm4540, code dump?
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	Faiyz	Wait, there's codedumps?
	Faiyz	I thought those were only there for DSI erro- wait, now I'm thinking Wii applications. Couldn't be it.
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	scotty_	ive downloaded PM 3.5 and inzipped the files 2 my sd car, but when i press play my wii crashes. what do i do?
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	|Shadow|	scotty_, code dump?
	scotty_	whats that?
	|Shadow|	thats what im asking u
	|Shadow|	scotty_, code dump?
	scotty_	whats a code dump?
	|Shadow|	what is on the damn screen when it crashes?
	scotty_	hang on
	scotty_	it just goes black
	scotty_	and restarts
	|Shadow|	wii on 4.2?
	|Shadow|	4.1?
	scotty_	ya
	|Shadow|	update to 4.3
	scotty_	its 4.3 my bad
	|Shadow|	u positive
	scotty_	yes
	|Shadow|	screenshot plez
	scotty_	4.3U
	|Shadow|	2GB full sd card?
	scotty_	yes
	|Shadow|	brand?
	scotty_	PNY
	|Shadow|	there is your problem
	scotty_	dam
	scotty_	just bought these
	|Shadow|	put it in your pc
	|Shadow|	then right click drive then properties
	scotty_	done
	|Shadow|	whats it say?
	|Shadow|	size avalible
	|Shadow|	and size total
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	scotty_	used space: 957 MB
	|Shadow|	scotty_, hello?
	|Shadow|	ok
	scotty_	free space: 909 MB
	|Shadow|	and total compasity
	scotty_	1.82 GB
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	|Shadow|	has this been partitioned?
	scotty_	idk
	|Shadow|	fat32?
	scotty_	just FAT
	|Shadow|	fat32 it
	scotty_	how so?
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	|Shadow|	right click format
	|Shadow|	set to fat32 then format
	Faiyz	The days of FAT16 are long-gone.
	scotty_	done
	|Shadow|	right clikc properties
	|Shadow|	size?
	scotty_	1.81
	scotty_	MB
	scotty_	GB my bad
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	|Shadow|	ok
	|Shadow|	now try pm again
	scotty_	aight gimme a couple minutes
	projectm8644	can project m work if i also have riivilution on my sd card?
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	Faiyz	IIRC, Project M versions above 3.0 (as in 3.01 or 3.02) don't support Riivolution anymore. Sorry.
	DarkLink	That's not what he asked.
	DarkLink	Project M should work fine if you have riivolution on your SD card.
	DarkLink	You can't use it to launch Project M anymore, though.
	Faiyz	But yeah, nothing says you can't use them together.
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	projectm8644	thanks ill try it out right now
	|Shadow|	scotty_, any updates on status?
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	scotty_	it takes 4ever 2 extract the files srry
	CloudChaser	hi Pinkie_Pie
	|Shadow|	if u have a shitty pc it does
	Pinkie_Pie	hey CloudChaser
	scotty_	i have a shitty pc
	|Shadow|	running xp?
	scotty_	windows 8
	|Shadow|	then u dont ahve a shitty pc
	projectm8644	yep project m works with riivolution
	projectm8644	thanks
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	|Shadow|	scotty_, i wish i had your shitty pc
	scotty_	lol
	|Shadow|	trade u for mine
	scotty_	naw im good
	|Shadow|	scotty_, read pm
	|Shadow|	im showing u somthing
	scotty_	can play League at a shaky30 FPS
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	techkid6	No more PM for me for a while
	techkid6	Just got a Wii U
	CloudChaser	k
	techkid6	Unless, can I get PM (hackless or homebrew) on the U as well?
	CloudChaser	yes
	CloudChaser	no gamecube controller though
	|Shadow|	techkid6, dont ahve a wii anymore?
	techkid6	|Shadow|: I do, GameStop insulted me by offering me $20 for it
	techkid6	But, it is completely wiped out
	Dn2	haha@20
	|Shadow|	resoftmod it
	|Shadow|	i would
	|Shadow|	and use it for all wii related homebrew/warez
	|Shadow|	dont bother softmodding the vWii
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	|Shadow|	own's 3 wii's
	techkid6	why, it might make me need to buy a new SD slot >.>
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	|Shadow|	do it best thing ever
	|Shadow|	gamestop would buy it with a bad sd slot in the first place
	|Shadow|	woudent*
	Faiyz	Speaking of GameStop, I got a gift card from there. Bleh, I'd prefer Jay Street Video Games.
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	|Shadow|	Faiyz, sell it
	Faiyz	Or I could get a Sm4sh controller to spraypaint.
	|Shadow|	why spraypaint?
	|Shadow|	its already black
	Faiyz	Hiding the Smash logo.
	|Shadow|	your lame
	Dn2	use sand paper
	Dn2
	|Shadow|	no
	|Shadow|	use a drill
	|Shadow|	drill it out
	Dn2	even better
	Faiyz	Well, maybe in the future I could put the "M" logo from Project M on it, and make it navy blue.
	Faiyz	So hiding/removing a preoccupied logo is good to some extent. (Besides, all I'll ever play is PM.)
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	|3rian	Dangerontherangr
	|3rian	why the in the world
	|3rian	did Xian
	|3rian	go dhalsim
	|3rian	vs Daigo?
	|3rian	Kryptonite?
	|Shadow|	techkid6
	|Shadow|	http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-Repair-Part-For-Nintendo-Wii-SD-Card-Slot-Holder-Connector-Reader/1402777749.html
	Dantbot	Title: 1pcs Repair Part For Nintendo Wii SD Card Slot Holder Connector Reader-in Other Consumer Electronics from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group (at www.aliexpress.com)
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	DangerOnTheRangr	|3rian: sim is a good matchup against shotos
	DangerOnTheRangr	always has been, in sf4 and sf2
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	Lumi	Hey guys, anyone got experience with the homebrew PM?
	Faiyz	I wish I did. Want to get my television mounted...
	Lumi	Pm just crashes whenever I start a match
	Lumi	and the menu's look like brawl's not pm lol
	Lumi	and it was working yesterday...so I'm not really sure what happened...
	|Shadow|	sux2bu
	Faiyz	Aw, c'mon. Don't be like that.
	Lumi	fuck me, I jut played 2 matches on it and it worked fine
	Lumi	then loaded up yoshi's story and it frozen again
	DarkLink	What type of sd card are you using?
	Lumi	it's a micro sd with an adapter but it's worked fine for weeks now
	Lumi	and I haven't touched PM files
	DarkLink	Micro sd adapters are very unreliable. If you want consistency, use a real SD card.
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	DarkLink	If you can deal with random freezing, I guess you're good.
	Lumi	euch
	Lumi	no one sells regular 2gb sd cards around me
	Lumi	everything is minimum 15+ shipping from the US
	DarkLink	If you use the homebrew method you can use an SD card of any size.
	Faiyz	Ahh, the joys of Homebrew method.
	Faiyz	I absolutely swear by it, IMHO.
	DarkLink	At this point there's literally no reason to not have homebrew on your wii, even without project m.
	DarkLink	It makes the wii a lovely emulation box.
	DarkLink	Also, piracy if you're in to that.
	Lumi	yeah
	Lumi	im having problems with usb loaders
	Faiyz	should really get his Wii set up, because things like mednafen and RetroArch make the Wii such a lovely box of emulation~
	Faiyz	Heck, I even have 3.2U, and it's a launch Wii.
	Lumi	question
	Lumi	will the 8GB card work with the rest of my homebrew stuff
	Lumi	like nintendont and my usb loaders etc?
	Faiyz	All of that stuff /should/ work. There's always room for testing.
	Lumi	ok
	Lumi	I've actually got an 8gb SD card for my camera...
	Lumi	I can just the adapter 2gb one for it instead..
	DarkLink	Yeah, pretty much all homebrew stuff should work with any size of sd card. The only reason hackless project M needs 2GB or lower is because Brawl was released before SDHC support was added to the wii.
	DarkLink	So it doesn't even recognize SDHC cards.
	Lumi	lol
	Faiyz	Mainly due to the IOS being used in Brawl, and SDHC cards were relatively "new" at the time.
	Lumi	yeah..
	Lumi	just gotta format this card now
	Lumi	to fat32 32kb cluster size right?
	Faiyz	It could work out. Just one more thing: Back up your stuff!
	Lumi	yeah, all pictures are on flickr anywa
	Lumi	anyway*
	Faiyz	Well, if you are like me, I always feel like I need to back up stuff.
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	Lumi	is retroarch better than having all of my roms from the VC?
	Lumi	as wad files?
	CloudChaser	hmm what's retroarch? an emulator?
	Lumi	yeah
	Lumi	we were talking about wii softmodding a minute ago
	Faiyz	Retroarch is a multisystem emulator like mednafen, but it all weighs down on personal preference.
	CloudChaser	i hadn't heard of it until recently
	CloudChaser	but not "mednafen"
	Faiyz	Yeah, mednafen is my go-to emulator, and the GB emulation is rather accurate, other than bgb of course.
	Lumi	k heres a question Faiyz
	Lumi	on the system menu, is it JUST the emulator there
	Faiyz	Wii System Menu, or HBC?
	Lumi	because right now I have a million things on my menu because of all of the VC titles
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	Lumi	system menu
	Lumi	but can you launch vis HBC?
	Faiyz	You can launch mednafen via HBC by default, unless you find a forwarder or something.
	Faiyz	It's on WiiBrew.
	CloudChaser	https://33.media.tumblr.com/c5889606128ed8e3e197bf0c916ef27d/tumblr_nh5u42PhdV1sljb1uo1_1280.jpg
	Faiyz	Meanwhile, RetroArch... I dunno if it's on WiiBrew or not.
	Lumi	well
	CloudChaser	oh lol wrong channel
	Lumi	PM has loaded so far, it did take a while though...
	CloudChaser	it took a while for what? loading?
	Lumi	to load from cfg usb loader
	Faiyz	Ahh.
	CloudChaser	oh, well, and what do you mean by "a while"?
	Lumi	a minute or so
	Faiyz	Maybe the HDD or SDHC card is slow. Usually the lower class SDHC cards are the culprit.
	Lumi	meh
	Lumi	idc if it takes a minute every time
	Lumi	I just want it to work every time
	Lumi	I'm thinking about getting a USB HD for all my homebrewing
	CloudChaser	changing the game's cIOS can also mess up load times (has happened to me)
	Lumi	know what it should be?
	Lumi	iirc I had to do 236 instead of 249 since my wiimote kept turning off
	Faiyz	Lumi: I remember this humorous anti-piracy thing with the first IOS 236 installer.
	Lumi	?
	CloudChaser	depends on what was your preference regarding cIOS installation process
	Lumi	tbh,I JUST got my wii on monday
	Lumi	and followed a guide online step by step
	Faiyz	A bit hazy, but it asks that are you going to pirate games with it, and it gives you a yes or no choice. If you say yes, a number will be recorded or something. Luckily I had a NAND dump (back in the past with BootMii) and was able to click no to get on with the actual installation.
	Faiyz	I thought it was amusing.
	Lumi	so you said mednafen is on the HBC browser? Faiyz
	Faiyz	It's under WiiMednafen.
	Lumi	ok, downloading it
	Lumi	I think I'd prefer emulation over the VC
	Faiyz	Have fun! ^^
	Lumi	yeah
	Lumi	the VC means each game needs its own little bubble in the system menu
	DarkLink	VC emulation is generally better, but it also requires installing wads that are much larger than normal roms.
	Lumi	yeah but I cant have a VC bubble on the system menu
	CloudChaser	VC emulation is better for N64
	Faiyz	It could be because there are things like the Operations Guide (HTML) and content packages.
	Lumi	I need to have a bubble for every individual game >_>
	CloudChaser	Wii64 is glitchy AF
	Lumi	it clogs it up fast.
	DarkLink	Yeah, Wii64 is awful, but N64 emulation is hard even on PC.
	Faiyz	DarkLink: Which is why I have a 64drive.
	DarkLink	Nice
	CloudChaser	the best Wii64 games are basically just Mario Party 1, 2 and 3
	DarkLink	Does that have 100% (or close) compatibility, Faiyz?
	Faiyz	Yeah, I grew up with N64.
	Faiyz	I can say that it has better compatibility then the EverDrive 64. Definitely better.
	Faiyz	I even went all out and got atomic purple controllers with new thumbsticks. GCN-styled ones.
	Lumi	er Faiyz
	Lumi	loaded up mednafen, and my wiimote is unsuable...
	Lumi	I have no way of exiting it haha
	Lumi	there's no home button on the GC controller
	CloudChaser	exit out of what?
	Lumi	mednafen
	Faiyz	That's strange... the Wiimote /should/ be synced, but it could be another issue altogether.
	DarkLink	Is your wiimote wii motion plus?
	Lumi	yep
	DarkLink	I think they don't work with some homebrew
	Lumi	maybe I should buy an old non motion+ one
	Faiyz	I stay far away from MotionPlus built in. I got four old Wiimotes, and four Classic Controllers (non-plus).
	DarkLink	I just have one motionplus add-on thing
	DarkLink	I don't have any wiimotes with it built in.
	Faiyz	Yeah, maybe. Forgot about that MotionPlus problem because it was never mentioned anywhere within the past 2-3 years or so.
	Lumi	euuuch I don't get why this USB loader refuses to go well with gc games
	Lumi	wait wtf
	Lumi	it took 2 mins, but it loaded
	Lumi	oh nvm
	Lumi	an error has occurred lol
	Faiyz	Speaking of GC loaders, I have a WODE Jukebox for that stuff.
	CloudChaser	mine has Motion+ and it works
	CloudChaser	but it's refurbished
	Faiyz	Huh.
	Lumi	man I give up
	Lumi	usb loader gx says it cant load GC games because nintendont doesnt support via USB
	Lumi	but if I go to nintendont directly, it works fine
	Faiyz	wishes Nintendont can be as good as Devolution, but meh, doesn't use games that rely on audiostream that much.
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	|Shadow|	Nintendont has audiostream
	Faiyz	Huh, I had no idea.
	DarkLink	How's Nintendont for compatibility vs Dios Mios Lite?
	|Shadow|	crediar took the audiostream and is dont know when add it to diosmios
	|Shadow|	crediar took the audiostream code and is dont know when add it to diosmios
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