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other Highlights from 19th February 2013

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  2. (00:04:04) +errorname457: Was the Rance thread deleted by someone? http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/176871735
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  4. (00:41:05) nemo`: >When you get banned, they also like to delete all of the posts you made that haven't been pruned yet, tripcoded or not.
  5. (00:41:13) nemo`: >Fuck, these janitors are ruining 4chan.
  6. (00:41:31) SerWind: LOL
  7. (00:41:42) nemo`: >I got a 2 day ban, too, I was just posting it jokingly...
  8. (00:41:43) SerWind: Can we change /q/ to /q/ - Fuck, these janitors are ruining 4chan.
  9. (00:41:58) nemo`: haha
  10. (00:42:07) +Deckenkatze: more like /qq/
  11. (00:42:37) SerWind: /shitposters/
  12. (00:42:42) %Beam: they mad
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  14. (06:10:56) +errorname457: hey AoC
  15. (06:11:11) +AoC: hey
  16. (06:11:30) +errorname457: was just wondering were you were, /v/ had some rough patches yesterday
  17. (06:11:38) +errorname457: did you see my thread on /q/ about Fridays?
  18. (06:11:41) +errorname457: err, /j/
  19. (06:14:35) +AoC: Just did. Sorry, I'm still on madness break and didn't check on the boards except to notice that, as usual, reports were piling up over the weekend
  20. (06:16:06) +AoC: sorry, got disconnected
  21. (06:16:12) +AoC: what was the last line to go through?
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  23. (06:16:45) +AoC: yeah, I should be able to cover Friday nights no problem since I no longer have a pub to go to, but I'm thinking of making this couple weeks off count for something
  24. (06:17:12) +errorname457: all of Friday nights though?
  25. (06:17:39) +errorname457: Are you sure you want to do that? That's an awful big load.
  26. (06:19:28) +AoC: sorry, lost my train of thought there
  27. (06:20:38) +AoC: it's not that big of a load, I'm used to heavy shifts and being NEET I don't have much else going on but this. Problem is that having nothing but 4chan means that I might go unstable (again) and that's the last thing we want
  28. (06:20:59) +errorname457: true
  29. (06:21:21) +AoC: so I dunno, I know I can but I'm also trying to scale back a bit more now. Not the sheriff of London and all that
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  31. (11:06:58) +Kazisho: https://boards.4chan.org/v/res/176945752#p176948591 Let's hope it works.
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  33. it did.
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  35. (17:50:09) +duanemoody: i'd propose that when a post's BRed, its image gets put into a recognition bin
  36. (17:50:25) +duanemoody: and that hash lasts 30 days or so
  37. (17:50:26) %RapeApe: duanemoody, that would be wonderful. we can't do it.
  38. [...]
  39. (17:50:32) +duanemoody: explain
  40. (17:50:51) %RapeApe: content based image recognition takes more processing power than is available to us.
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  42. (17:51:37) +duanemoody: ok ok i'll quit second-guessing
  43. (17:52:06) %RapeApe: still, it would be wonderful if we could do that.
  44. (17:52:12) +duanemoody: but tell me this much
  45. (17:52:29) +duanemoody: how much cpu is being eaten by md5summing and recalculating to base64
  46. (17:52:35) +duanemoody: that could be diverted
  47. (17:52:56) %RapeApe: i have no idea. i suspect a vanishingly small amount
  48. (17:53:32) +duanemoody: and every single post has to have uploads resummed, and then checked against a list of existing images on the board as well as any blacklisted ones
  49. (17:54:00) %RapeApe: even the simplest algorithms for CBIR requires a FFT, if i recall correctly.
  50. (17:54:15) +yetsturdy: nah
  51. (17:54:32) +yetsturdy: reduce color space, scale down the image. that gets you pretty far.
  52. (17:54:49) +yetsturdy: won't work for certain types of images, like lineart.
  53. (17:54:50) +duanemoody: http://phash.org/
  54. (17:55:02) +yetsturdy: besides, we need not have that going on server-side.
  55. (17:55:10) +duanemoody: 3 algorithms, first is useless
  56. (17:55:11) +yetsturdy: each janitor could run the thing.
  57. (17:55:20) +duanemoody: which is where i was going with this
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  59. (17:57:33) +duanemoody: image recognition is about "good enough"
  60. (17:57:39) +duanemoody: this is desktop level software
  61. (17:58:31) +duanemoody: i reiterate, this isn't a replacement for md5 dupe checking
  62. (17:58:35) +duanemoody: that's not the goal
  63. (17:58:53) +duanemoody: it's to mark images we don't want to see again
  64. (17:59:17) +yetsturdy: honestly, how much janitor work could be entirely automated?
  65. (17:59:33) +Thesmothete: 400%
  66. (17:59:49) +duanemoody: i'm not asking to automate what requires human judgment
  67. (18:00:03) +duanemoody: i'm asking to spend less time doing what machines do better
  68. (18:00:13) +yetsturdy: no, I'm saying that there IS a lot that can be automated.
  69. (18:00:17) +yetsturdy: I agree with you.
  70. (18:00:23) +Thesmothete: My job is being outsourced to robots
  71. (18:00:25) +duanemoody: i like exercising my judgment
  72. (18:00:37) +duanemoody: i don't like scouring threads for avatars
  73. (18:00:41) +yetsturdy: ^
  74. (18:00:57) +duanemoody: and this would make it more trouble to repost the same pics
  75. (18:01:33) %RapeApe: the problem with permanently blocking avatars, is that those avatar images could potentially be used legitimately in other circumstances.
  76. (18:01:48) %RapeApe: this would end up being a tool for moot & senior mods
  77. (18:01:55) +duanemoody: who said anything about making those hashes board wide or permanent
  78. (18:02:09) +BluRay: oh btw duanemoody
  79. (18:02:10) +duanemoody: idgaf who uses it
  80. (18:02:18) +duanemoody: let it be upper management
  81. (18:02:23) +duanemoody: but the tools are out there
  82. (18:02:24) +yetsturdy: all of this can run client-side.
  83. (18:02:33) +duanemoody: again, not interested in arguing
  84. (18:02:37) +yetsturdy: none of it needs to be fully automated.
  85. (18:02:54) %RapeApe: so you're just interested in created a avatarfag scanner?
  86. (18:03:10) %RapeApe: i thought you were advocating a CBIR autoban
  87. [...]
  88. (18:03:35) ยป Quit: ~moots (moots@the.run) (Remote host closed the connection)
  89. (18:03:48) %RapeApe: and the guy in charge of evaluating left...
  90. (18:03:49) +yetsturdy: either option starts out the same way.
  91. (18:04:26) +duanemoody: lord voldemoot shall return
  92. (18:04:43) +duanemoody: i'm aware that change is like a fly buzzing in his ear
  93. (18:05:09) +yetsturdy: does it really matter? nothing is stopping you from running a tool on your own machine that automates janitor actions.
  94. (18:05:17) %RapeApe: you should probably talk with MVB & dongfix, as they'll likely be the ones coding anything serverside
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  96. (18:05:43) @dongfix: too many false positives don't bother
  97. (18:06:04) +yetsturdy: dongfix: how did you arrive to that conclusion?
  98. (18:06:59) @dongfix: OIR is dumb
  99. (18:07:27) +yetsturdy: OIR being?
  100. (18:08:00) @dongfix: optical optical image recognition
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  102. (20:12:04) +Kazisho: >mods don't care when there's porn on a SFW board but the second we try to have fun
  103. (20:12:05) +Kazisho: Lol.
  104. (20:12:42) sixtus: http://puu.sh/24T4U
  105. (20:12:43) +AoC: yeah, I'll never get tired of that argument
  106. (20:12:45) sixtus: picture related
  107. (20:12:57) +AoC: "I saw a furry porn thread stay alive once THAT MEANS MODS LOVE FURRY PORN"
  108. (20:13:18) +errorname457: that's it
  109. (20:13:25) +errorname457: I'm going in deep
  110. (20:13:40) +errorname457: the squeeling /v/irgins inside these threads shall know the chapter's fury
  111. (20:13:46) +AoC: Be warned, this way lies madness
  112. (20:13:58) +errorname457: I have nothing left to suffer
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  114. (21:10:08) +Kazisho: /vp/ discusses MLP better than /mlp/. The irony.
  115. (21:10:31) +scrubadour: so does /tg/ :V
  116. (21:10:49) +AoC: it's the topic paradox
  117. (21:10:58) +AoC: /v/ discusses anime better than /a/
  118. (21:11:06) +AoC: and so on
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  120. (21:34:26) SerWind: https://boards.4chan.org/q/res/431613
  121. (21:34:29) SerWind: haaw waa
  122. (21:34:59) +AoC: >2010 conspiracy
  123. (21:35:01) +AoC: lol
  124. (21:35:28) +duanemoody: Arizona in charge of anything
  125. (21:36:42) +duanemoody: this, right after having it explained to me that the servers can barely fart beyond their current activities
  126. (21:36:48) +duanemoody: this is gold
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  128. (21:39:59) %Aerolite: that post, with that image, was written by someone who had a lot of spare time on their hands and is good at telling a story
  129. (21:40:08) %Aerolite: apparently that is enough to fool a lot of people on 4chan
  130. (21:40:20) SerWind: aerolite what always gets me is how many people buy into shit people write on 4chan..
  131. (21:40:24) +BluRay: lol
  132. (21:40:34) +duanemoody: i like conspiracy theories about 4chan's inner workings
  133. (21:40:46) +duanemoody: because occasionally good ideas come out of them
  134. (21:41:12) +tjanster: I like them because they show how they think the world (of 4chan) works.
  135. (21:41:12) %Aerolite: yeah but that particular image has been circulating for years
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  137. (21:41:14) %Aerolite: it's so funny
  138. (21:41:19) %Aerolite: that people still believe it
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