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  1. [23:08] RK4000: actually.
  2. [23:08] RK4000: i just remembered what i'm saving all that money for.
  3. [23:09] RK4000: a delta integrale, lololololololol.
  4. [23:09] RK4000: but for how much they're worth, i'm going to need A LOT more jobs.
  5. [23:09] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Lol
  6. [23:09] Apt Cult - Xheoh: How much?
  7. [23:10] RK4000: 20.000-25.000 € for a top notch one
  8. [23:10] RK4000: 10.000 - 15.000€ for an average one
  9. [23:10] RK4000: err
  10. [23:10] RK4000: for a good one
  11. [23:10] RK4000: 5.000-10.000 are average ones
  12. [23:10] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Lol
  13. [23:10] Apt Cult - Xheoh: How much do you have?
  14. [23:10] RK4000: ... 5k.
  15. [23:12] Apt Cult - Xheoh: GET AN AVERAGE ONE
  16. [23:12] RK4000: i'm probably going to spend some more getting it to rally specs then enter it in a rally for pre-1990 cars
  17. [23:12] RK4000: yea that's the thing
  18. [23:12] RK4000: i can't really rally-spec an average one
  19. [23:12] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Oic
  20. [23:12] RK4000: and yes, i will be able to do that because dad was a rally mechanic, so he knows these things.
  21. [23:12] RK4000: how do you think we got the thema up to 320 lol
  22. [23:12] RK4000: 320 HP*
  23. [23:13] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Turbos
  24. [23:13] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Loooots of turbos
  25. [23:13] RK4000: there's just 1.
  26. [23:13] RK4000: but it's two stage.
  27. [23:13] RK4000: so less turbo lag.
  28. [23:13] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Make it a Twin Turbo
  29. [23:13] RK4000: it's straight from a delta rally spec.
  30. [23:13] RK4000: dude there's no more room.
  31. [23:13] RK4000: we already had to fit extra cooling + the bigger turbo
  32. [23:14] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Oh
  33. [23:14] Apt Cult - Xheoh: How much did it cost, in total?
  34. [23:14] RK4000: 1k
  35. [23:14] RK4000: turbo + remapping
  36. [23:15] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Even the car
  37. [23:15] Apt Cult - Xheoh: ?
  38. [23:15] RK4000: no
  39. [23:15] RK4000: the turbo
  40. [23:15] RK4000: xD
  41. [23:15] RK4000: the car was a trade off
  42. [23:16] RK4000: we traded our S2 Thema 16v with a semi tuned engine for it
  43. [23:16] RK4000: this one is a S3
  44. [23:16] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Oic
  45. [23:16] RK4000: S3 Thema Turbo 16v
  46. [23:16] RK4000: the old one was naturally aspirated
  47. [23:17] RK4000: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ud2X4FAO-Q
  48. [23:17] RK4000: top gear even say that only a "good" one is 25k pounds
  49. [23:17] RK4000: POUNDS.
  50. [23:18] Apt Cult - Xheoh: xD
  51. [23:18] RK4000: that's like 28k euros.
  52. [23:18] RK4000: FOR A GOOD ONE.
  53. [23:18] RK4000: and like he says, he can't really blame it. it really is worth that much
  54. [23:18] RK4000: i've driven one, idk if i told you
  55. [23:18] Apt Cult - Xheoh: xD
  56. [23:19] Apt Cult - Xheoh: http://www.topgear.com/uk/lotus/elise/verdict
  57. [23:20] Apt Cult - Xheoh: £27k
  58. [23:20] Apt Cult - Xheoh: So 29-30k Euros
  59. [23:20] RK4000: an elise would be a pain to live with,.
  60. [23:21] Apt Cult - Xheoh: But look at it
  61. [23:21] Apt Cult - Xheoh: LOOK AT IT
  62. [23:21] RK4000: you already know i hate new cars' styling
  63. [23:22] Apt Cult - Xheoh: But
  64. [23:22] Apt Cult - Xheoh: D:
  65. [23:22] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Why?
  66. [23:22] RK4000: they all look too similar to eachother and too smooth
  67. [23:22] RK4000: too curvatious.
  68. [23:22] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Buy a Golf
  69. [23:22] RK4000: why?
  70. [23:23] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Even better
  71. [23:23] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Do you want comfort?
  72. [23:23] RK4000: new golfs are too curvatious.
  73. [23:23] RK4000: ALL new cars are too curvatious.
  74. [23:23] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Do you?
  75. [23:24] RK4000: no, i want a car that's both a 4 door car, that's comfortable, can take you and 3 other people on a journey of 600+ km on holidays and not tire you out, that can be a performance car, that is very practical, and that doesn't cost a fortune to run, and that looks good.
  76. [23:24] RK4000: in short, either a thema, a E30, or a 'grale.
  77. [23:25] RK4000: unless you don't count 0-100 (0-62) in 5 seconds "performance".
  78. [23:25] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Not supercar leauge, no
  79. [23:25] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Or even sports car leauge
  80. [23:25] Apt Cult - Xheoh: High end sports cars, that is
  81. [23:25] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Try this
  82. [23:25] Apt Cult - Xheoh: http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-chooser-launch
  83. [23:25] RK4000: no high end sports car can give you either of the other things i want though.
  84. [23:26] RK4000: fiat 500.
  85. [23:26] RK4000: HELL NO.
  86. [23:26] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Do you want to bet? :D
  87. [23:26] RK4000: wat?
  88. [23:26] RK4000: obv i'm not going to get a fiat 500.
  89. [23:26] Apt Cult - Xheoh: http://www.topgear.com/uk/porsche/911
  90. [23:26] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I don't need to go any further
  91. [23:26] RK4000: don't even start with 991's.
  92. [23:27] RK4000: overpriced stretched beetle.
  93. [23:27] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Oh I'm sorry, 4 door
  94. [23:27] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Panamera
  95. [23:27] RK4000: panamera is as ugly as fuak.
  96. [23:27] Apt Cult - Xheoh: GranTurismo
  97. [23:27] RK4000: plus, look at the damn cost.
  98. [23:27] RK4000: 63k for basically a beetle?
  99. [23:28] RK4000: you don't look at the whole picture
  100. [23:28] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It's not a beetle though
  101. [23:28] RK4000: you're basically only looking at track performance.
  102. [23:28] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Beetles are awful slow hideious things
  103. [23:28] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Not really XD
  104. [23:28] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It's fast
  105. [23:28] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It's comfortable
  106. [23:28] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It seats 4 in comfort
  107. [23:28] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It can go long distances without near killing you
  108. [23:28] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It looks excellent
  109. [23:28] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It has a large boot
  110. [23:28] RK4000: except you don't know any of that.
  111. [23:29] RK4000: it has a small as fuck boot.
  112. [23:29] Apt Cult - Xheoh: And it doesn't cost THAT much to run
  113. [23:29] RK4000: i've seen it.
  114. [23:29] RK4000: you don't know wether it's comfortable
  115. [23:29] RK4000: you don't know wether it can go long distances without killing you.
  116. [23:29] Apt Cult - Xheoh: The facility of a hatch, combined with the fact that those rear seats fold to a capacity of 1,250 litres
  117. [23:29] RK4000: plus, you probably won't ever get to own a 911 if you're a normal mortal with an average inteligence.
  118. [23:30] RK4000: and neither will i
  119. [23:30] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Ohohohoho
  120. [23:30] RK4000: so stop living in the clouds and drop down to earth
  121. [23:30] Apt Cult - Xheoh: We'll see about that
  122. [23:30] RK4000: let's see you get your beloved 911, i'll come over in person with my thema and congratulate you.
  123. [23:30] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Thanks :D
  124. [23:30] RK4000: can't you get that that won't happen xD
  125. [23:31] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Nope
  126. [23:31] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Because it will~
  127. [23:31] RK4000: then we can have a little test in real life, you can follow me to slovenia and see who's more near killed ;)
  128. [23:31] Apt Cult - Xheoh: xD
  129. [23:31] RK4000: with 3 mates with you, and a boot full of holiday stuff, both of us having to transport the same ammount of stuff.
  130. [23:32] RK4000: your 911 will nearly kill you and your 3 friends.
  131. [23:32] Apt Cult - Xheoh: In a 911 GT3 RS? no. :P In something else? Yes.
  132. [23:32] Apt Cult - Xheoh: That's the dream car
  133. [23:32] Apt Cult - Xheoh: GT3 RS
  134. [23:32] RK4000: even in a normal 911.
  135. [23:32] RK4000: lol, that's a track car
  136. [23:33] RK4000: living with it is impossible, even clarkson said that.
  137. [23:33] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Yes, so?
  138. [23:33] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I'm not planning to take it to the shops
  139. [23:33] Apt Cult - Xheoh: That's stupid
  140. [23:33] RK4000: you won't be able to afford anything else if you're going to buy that though
  141. [23:33] RK4000: like i said, you're not factoring in real life things
  142. [23:33] Apt Cult - Xheoh: If you can afford a 100k supercar you can afford other things too
  143. [23:34] RK4000: if you're going to be saving up till your 50 for a 100k supercar, you won't be able to enjoy it even
  144. [23:34] RK4000: plus, how in the hell do you plan on affording it,.
  145. [23:34] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Let me put it like this
  146. [23:34] Apt Cult - Xheoh: As soon as you make a penny
  147. [23:34] Apt Cult - Xheoh: You can make millions
  148. [23:35] RK4000: in a perfect world, yes.
  149. [23:35] RK4000: however, what you don't get, is that the real world is a lot less perfect and a lot less unfair.
  150. [23:35] RK4000: err
  151. [23:35] RK4000: less fair*
  152. [23:36] Apt Cult - Xheoh: xD
  153. [23:36] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Yes, I get that
  154. [23:36] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Not everyone can have what they want
  155. [23:36] Apt Cult - Xheoh: But I'm going to have what I want because I've earned it
  156. [23:36] Apt Cult - Xheoh: If that makes sense
  157. [23:36] RK4000: at least i'm not living up in the clouds and went for a car that's not worth much, and that can do everything.
  158. [23:36] RK4000: no, it doesn't, because on that principle i could afford a fricken Bugatti.
  159. [23:37] RK4000: you don't earn something by just existing.
  160. [23:37] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Obviously not
  161. [23:37] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I'm going to earn my money
  162. [23:37] Apt Cult - Xheoh: And use it to buy my car
  163. [23:37] RK4000: and how do you play to earn enough.
  164. [23:37] RK4000: that's what you don't get.
  165. [23:37] Apt Cult - Xheoh: My money, I earned it, and I'm going to enjoy it
  166. [23:38] RK4000: you'll be lucky to afford a focus 2 by the time you're 20 with nowaday's average taxes and costs of things.
  167. [23:38] Apt Cult - Xheoh: At the moment I don't
  168. [23:38] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I can't drive for another two years XD
  169. [23:38] RK4000: you can enjoy the money you earn, by all means.
  170. [23:38] RK4000: what you don't get, is that you're living up in the clouds with how much you think you're going to earn
  171. [23:38] RK4000: take what you're thinking, and halve it. twice.
  172. [23:39] Apt Cult - Xheoh: So 3/4 it?
  173. [23:39] RK4000: that's how much you're actually going to earn, because there's taxes, the daily neccesities, and, basically, everything else. you'll be happy if you can afford a second hand focus from 2004.
  174. [23:39] RK4000: 1/4th of what you're thinking.
  175. [23:39] RK4000: i'm not saying you won't be able to enjoy what you earn
  176. [23:39] RK4000: not at all
  177. [23:39] RK4000: by all means, do.
  178. [23:39] Apt Cult - Xheoh: That could be a lot of money
  179. [23:39] Apt Cult - Xheoh: XD
  180. [23:39] RK4000: you're just not going to earn nearly enough, because you're living up in the clouds.
  181. [23:40] RK4000: unless you want to get some epic education.
  182. [23:40] RK4000: what profession do you even want to go for?
  183. [23:40] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Schools teach what they think you should know
  184. [23:40] RK4000: you have to factor in the fact that getting a job is in itself a feat in today's times.
  185. [23:40] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Not what you want to know
  186. [23:40] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I'm not going for a profession
  187. [23:40] RK4000: ... what the fuck?
  188. [23:40] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Not an average one
  189. [23:40] RK4000: how do you plan on getting a job then?
  190. [23:40] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Like an accountant
  191. [23:40] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Or a doctor
  192. [23:40] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Or a teacher
  193. [23:41] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Not going for a job...
  194. [23:41] RK4000: how are you going to make money then?
  195. [23:41] RK4000: no job = no money.
  196. [23:41] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I'm a photographer.
  197. [23:41] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I take photos.
  198. [23:41] Apt Cult - Xheoh: People like them
  199. [23:41] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I sell them
  200. [23:41] Apt Cult - Xheoh: People buy them
  201. [23:41] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Kaching
  202. [23:41] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Now no
  203. [23:41] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It wull not be 600 million in the first week
  204. [23:41] RK4000: and you think you're going to make enough money from photographs to last you your entire life AND afford a 911 GT3 RS?
  205. [23:42] RK4000: you're not even going to make enough to pay half of what you'll have to to even fricken exist in the community
  206. [23:42] RK4000: it might seem easy atm when parents are the ones buying you food, transportation, clothes, when they're paying the living taxes, warm water, electricity, etc.
  207. [23:42] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Just to give you an example of what some things sell for
  208. [23:43] RK4000: when you're going to have to pay for all that yourself, photographs aren't going to last you at all.
  209. [23:43] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Hand made things. In this case something 'hand-made' can be as simple as sticking a photograph onto a piece of wood and calling it a frame
  210. [23:43] Apt Cult - Xheoh: This was handmade by someone
  211. [23:43] Apt Cult - Xheoh: They're selling it for $100k
  212. [23:43] Apt Cult - Xheoh: http://www.etsy.com/listing/83765373/vintage-inspired-wedding-dress-crystal?ref=sr_gallery_5&ga_search_query=Dress&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=ZZ&ga_min=0&ga_max=0&ga_order=price_desc&ga_page=0&ga_search_type=all&ga_facet=Dress
  213. [23:44] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Stuff like that sells
  214. [23:44] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Because it's hand made
  215. [23:44] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It's exclusive
  216. [23:44] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I stand corrected
  217. [23:44] Apt Cult - Xheoh: 247k
  218. [23:44] RK4000: do you really think it's that simple?
  219. [23:44] RK4000: i pity you.
  220. [23:44] RK4000: i seriously do.
  221. [23:44] Apt Cult - Xheoh: No
  222. [23:44] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Of course it isn't
  223. [23:45] Apt Cult - Xheoh: No photographer has actually experimented or expanded
  224. [23:45] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It's just
  225. [23:45] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Take picture
  226. [23:45] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Put it up
  227. [23:45] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Take picture
  228. [23:45] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Put it up
  229. [23:45] RK4000: and what do you plan on doing?
  230. [23:45] Apt Cult - Xheoh: No-one as far as I know has tried putting their own photos on cups and selling those
  231. [23:45] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Or onto T-shirts, mousemats, etc etc
  232. [23:45] RK4000: dude, even if you were as well known as this guy and selling stuff like this, you won't make NEARLY enough money to last you.
  233. [23:45] Apt Cult - Xheoh: They focus on prints and nothing else
  234. [23:46] RK4000: and you think that's going to last you?
  235. [23:46] RK4000: and that's been done... like... everywhere.
  236. [23:46] RK4000: people do that lol
  237. [23:46] RK4000: you think you're really the first one that thought about that?
  238. [23:46] Apt Cult - Xheoh: And because no-one is doing anything like that (At the current time) the doors are wide open
  239. [23:46] RK4000: and how much do you think you're going to sell of said-things?
  240. [23:46] Apt Cult - Xheoh: You have a following on one place, show them another place and they'll go
  241. [23:46] RK4000: not nearly enough, my friend.
  242. [23:47] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I have no idea. :P At the moment it's all speculation.
  243. [23:47] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I accept that
  244. [23:47] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I also accept that it could fall flat on its face
  245. [23:47] Apt Cult - Xheoh: THen I'll try something else
  246. [23:47] RK4000: which, knowing today's cruel world, it will.
  247. [23:47] RK4000: by the time you'll find something that actually makes as much money as an average job, you'll be 40, having wasted everything.
  248. [23:47] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I'm waiting on payment for taking photos of freaking fudge for friends of the parents
  249. [23:48] RK4000: and how much is that?
  250. [23:48] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Which are being used on the stalls, the website, etc etc
  251. [23:48] RK4000: how much are you selling it for.
  252. [23:48] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Nono. I'm not selling it to them :P
  253. [23:48] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I gave them the photos
  254. [23:48] Apt Cult - Xheoh: They pay me based on what they use
  255. [23:48] Apt Cult - Xheoh: As it turns out, is a lot
  256. [23:48] RK4000: how much are you selling your photos for.
  257. [23:48] RK4000: what is a lot.
  258. [23:48] RK4000: GIVE ME NUMBERS.
  259. [23:49] Apt Cult - Xheoh: XD
  260. [23:49] RK4000: i'm being serious here.
  261. [23:49] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Sorting out a fulfilment company to print the things
  262. [23:49] RK4000: you're trying to go down a path that won't really bring you much, except disappointment and failiure.
  263. [23:49] RK4000: now i say again.
  264. [23:49] Apt Cult - Xheoh: And of course
  265. [23:49] RK4000: how much are you selling photos for.
  266. [23:49] RK4000: numbers.
  267. [23:49] RK4000: no emoticons.
  268. [23:49] RK4000: numbers.
  269. [23:50] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It hasn't been set yet.
  270. [23:50] Apt Cult - Xheoh: As soon as I get the fulfiment and shipping in order
  271. [23:50] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I'll get back to you
  272. [23:52] RK4000: if you're not making at least 1k a month, you're fucked.
  273. [23:52] RK4000: and that's steady income.
  274. [23:52] RK4000: ONLY TO LIVE PROPERLY you need about 1.5-1.8k (pounds) of income a month.
  275. [23:52] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I'm not the only one trying to earn money. Two other people are working their asses off too :P
  276. [23:53] Apt Cult - Xheoh: We need roughly £35 a day
  277. [23:53] RK4000: and what's that supposed to mean?
  278. [23:53] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Something like that
  279. [23:53] Apt Cult - Xheoh: To live comfortably
  280. [23:53] Apt Cult - Xheoh: Including food and clothes and everything
  281. [23:53] Apt Cult - Xheoh: It means I'm not the only thing in the equation.
  282. [23:53] Apt Cult - Xheoh: I may need 1k a month
  283. [23:53] Apt Cult - Xheoh: By myself
  284. [23:53] Apt Cult - Xheoh: But I'm not by myself
  285. [23:53] RK4000: you poor misguided person.
  286. [23:53] RK4000: i really do feel sorry for you.
  287. [23:54] RK4000: real life is going to hit you in the face SO HARD when you face it, i just feel sorry for you right here and right now
  288. [23:54] RK4000: end of discussion, i must go.
  289. [23:54] RK4000: afk.
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