Dynamo: Moderator's Point of View

12:52 <IcyMew>Okay this is ridiculous. Now they're attacking my thread with another one.
12:52 <IcyMew>While I did laugh this shit's getting old.
12:52 <IcyMew>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31224
12:53 <IcyMew>Anyways.
12:53 <Dynamo>it's honestly not the first time the shoot argument has started
12:53 <Dynamo>if you want my honest opinion it's best just to ignore it
12:53 <IcyMew>Oh I'm aware I've been here for a long time mate.
12:53 <Dynamo>as I said already I stopped caring completely about the competition forum
12:54 <IcyMew>I think this is why I didn't get too involved with the community.
12:54 <IcyMew>For so long.
12:54 <Dynamo>competitive community*
12:54 <Dynamo>the rest is generally fine
12:54 <IcyMew>I had such high hopes.
12:54 <IcyMew>I disagree.
12:54 <IcyMew>They were talking about android development
12:54 <IcyMew>And like 5 people jumped in and insulted the poor lad
12:54 <IcyMew>And HE apologized.
12:54 <IcyMew>I wanted to say something but I was like wow, fury please.
12:55 <IcyMew>Something needs to be done about this rampant hatred and sarcasm.
12:55 <IcyMew>I mean I can't see how this is okay that every single response is urinated upon.
12:55 <Dynamo>"And HE apologized."
12:56 <Dynamo>who?
12:56 <Dynamo>and where. I must have missed this
12:56 <IcyMew>Some newer player
12:56 <IcyMew>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31041
12:57 <Dynamo>holy shit
12:57 <Dynamo>Slime and Aenima
12:57 <Dynamo>two people I dislike
12:57 <Dynamo>I didn't check this thread
12:58 <Dynamo>if I had aenima would probably be in purgatory right about now
12:58 <IcyMew>Well uh
12:58 <IcyMew>I think decay and iced should be slapped across the face for their antics.
12:58 <IcyMew>But they're not.
12:58 <IcyMew>What Aenima did is no worse than what those two are doing right now.
12:58 <Dynamo>well they used to be, just like everyone else
12:58 <Dynamo>then the abyss got crowed with posts about competition
12:58 <Dynamo>and everyone made fun of the staff because of it
12:59 <Dynamo>it might sound stupid, but that's how politics go
12:59 <IcyMew>This isn't right.
12:59 <IcyMew>Politics or not.
12:59 <IcyMew>These people are really...REALLY arrogant.
12:59 <Dynamo>personally if iced/decay act like idiots outside of the forum they are gonna be given warnings on the spot
12:59 <Dynamo>but I won't touch the competition forum. not anymore
12:59 <IcyMew>So you're turning a blind eye to it then?
12:59 <Dynamo>I only did like two splits from it
12:59 <Dynamo>yet I took the blame for most of the stuff
13:00 <IcyMew>I just left #GV because he pretty much threatened to ban me.
13:00 <IcyMew>For talking to him about how he was acting.
13:00 <Dynamo>I dunno why iced is even a mod there tbh
13:00 <IcyMew>Well it looks like I'm back in my corner again.
13:00 <Dynamo>I'm considering warning aenima
13:00 <Dynamo>even if it's 20 days later
13:01 <IcyMew>That's your decision, personally I think what he did is nothing compared to the intrusion on the exhibition thread.
13:01 <IcyMew>And not because it's my thread.
13:01 <IcyMew>Because of the absolute absurdity that they'd come in and start bashing hte map
13:01 <IcyMew>Not even bothering to watch the demo or consider the skill put into it
13:01 <IcyMew>That's the problem.
13:01 <Dynamo>the bash started because of johnzombie actually
13:02 <IcyMew>If they had legitimate claims.
13:02 <IcyMew>Funny, JZ defended my point of  view.
13:02 <IcyMew>Even though he jumped in.
13:02 <Dynamo>I think the thread is meant to troll him more than anything
13:02 <IcyMew>I'm neutral.
13:02 <IcyMew>It's still silly.
13:02 <IcyMew>Ok
13:02 <IcyMew>Have you looked at the thread?
13:03 <IcyMew>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=31209
13:03 <IcyMew>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31224
13:03 <IcyMew>Then that
13:03 <IcyMew>Please take a moment to read it.
13:03 <IcyMew>And then perhaps consider what I am saying.
13:03 <IcyMew>If not then that's fine.
13:03 <IcyMew>But I implore you to see through it all.
13:04 <Dynamo>it's not nearly as bad as most other topics, the only asshole reply in the first thread was Iced's
13:04 <IcyMew>I disagree.
13:04 <Dynamo>I think decay's isn't that bad (the reply in the first thread)
13:04 <Dynamo>of course the second thread is just retarded
13:05 <IcyMew>What purpose should he link to some other duel?
13:05 <IcyMew>I mean that's kind of mean.
13:05 <IcyMew>Secondly the ongoing argument is stupid.
13:05 <IcyMew>And the second thread is pretty much dumbtarded.
13:33 <IcyMew>You're saying that well in the end I just try to please people. I responded with the fact that SOME TIMES POPULAR DECISIONS ARE WRONG! And to base your decisions on what's good rather than what's right is terrible.
13:33 <IcyMew>And you responded with a simple does it matter?
13:33 <Dynamo>earlier I said that I could ban every quakenet troll
13:34 <Dynamo>well technically I can't.
13:34 <Dynamo>but if I could
13:34 <Dynamo>what would it lead to
13:34 <IcyMew>Well, straight up people cannot be allowed to act like this.
13:34 <IcyMew>Even myself, as I apologized sufficiently for my mistake.
13:34 <IcyMew>However.
13:34 <IcyMew>Where I draw the line is in game.
13:34 <IcyMew>And IRC.
13:34 <IcyMew>And on the forums
13:34 <IcyMew>SKULLTAG property.
13:34 <IcyMew>This happened on quakenet
13:34 <Dynamo>you don't realize nobody cares about what people are "allowed" to do
13:35 <IcyMew>Really I had no reason to apologize.
13:35 <IcyMew>But I did because I cared.
13:35 <Dynamo>why do you think everyone made fun of DA when he quoted rules
13:35 <IcyMew>They are rules to be abided by.
13:35 <IcyMew>Your attitude is appalling.
13:35 <IcyMew>Seriously, hand out punishment and be done with it.
13:35 <IcyMew>Repeat offenders begone.
13:35 <IcyMew>Grow up.
13:35 <IcyMew>Seriously
13:35 <IcyMew>Keep the shit on your own property
13:35 <IcyMew>The fact of the matter is
13:35 <IcyMew>It's on the SKULLTAG forums
13:36 <IcyMew>If it was on the A3 forums
13:36 <IcyMew>No one would care
13:36 <IcyMew>BUT THIS
13:36 <IcyMew>Is the skulltag
13:36 <IcyMew>SKULLTAG
13:36 <IcyMew>Forums
13:36 <IcyMew>On SKULLTAG servers.
13:36 <IcyMew>In SKULLTAG IRC
13:36 <IcyMew>Granted
13:36 <IcyMew>The servers are hosted by others.
13:36 <IcyMew>WHO HAVE THEIR OWN RULE SETS
13:36 <IcyMew>Which are frequently broken.
13:36 <IcyMew>In the same manner.
13:36 <IcyMew>Someone needs to step up and enforce.
13:36 <IcyMew>Without bias.
13:36 <IcyMew>I have no bias anymore.
13:36 <IcyMew>I have no friends.
13:36 <IcyMew>And I certainly won't suck someone's dick
13:36 <IcyMew>It's a fucking game but the princples still stand.
13:37 <IcyMew>It's not about what it is
13:37 <IcyMew>It's about the principle behind it.
13:37 <IcyMew>Straight up.
13:37 <IcyMew>Tell me, is any of this incorrect?
13:37 <Dynamo>I think this is becoming more complex than it originally was meant to be
13:37 <Dynamo>I know very well what the problem is
13:47 <Dynamo>20:40  <Dynamo>but I am not involved with competition and I want /nothing/ to do with it
13:47 <Dynamo>here.
13:47 <IcyMew>I've literally hammered out this conversation soley based on pointing out the inconsistencies.
13:47 <Dynamo>if you post something that is funny, even if slightly "political incorrect", but is relevant to a topic
13:47 <Dynamo>then fine
13:47 <IcyMew>Okay, so let me refer back to the posts I quoted.
13:47 <Dynamo>but posting that is 1) not funny 2) not relevant 3) retarded 4) etc
13:48 <Dynamo>I know you wouldn't do it but yeah
13:49 <IcyMew>It's not funny to slap someone's obviously breathtakingly mind melting match because of the map choice. IT's not relevant that you think the map sucks to post it in the thread, that shows massive disrespect to all involved, it's retarded to show so much arrogance and it's hilarious he gets away with it while I'm shoveled with it's the internet and I'm not involved and here's the line rhetoric.
13:49 <IcyMew>That's my personal opinion.
13:49 <IcyMew>Then
13:49 <IcyMew>I go to the channel to avoid posting into the drama
13:49 <IcyMew>To talk about it and I recieve the same treatment
13:49 <IcyMew>And have to vacate the channel in the face of a ban.
13:49 <Dynamo>I had absolutely nothing to do with that
13:50 <IcyMew>Now I'm talking to a moderator who is backed into a corner and is afraid to stand up for what's right.
13:50 <IcyMew>What's wrong here?
13:51 <Dynamo>are you seriously blaming me for what happened on the forums
13:51 <IcyMew>Is that what you're making this out as?
13:51 <Dynamo>no
13:51 <Dynamo>just curious
13:51 <IcyMew>No, only thing I'm calling you out for is for turning a blind eye to this whole deal.
13:51 <IcyMew>You should be calling out your higher ups.
13:51 <IcyMew>Or telling me who I should be calling out.
13:52 <IcyMew>I already used the report button
13:52 <IcyMew>And it got moved to finished events after a heartfelt appeal.
13:52 <IcyMew>And the drama kept going
13:52 <IcyMew>Fun fact I reported at decay's post and moved on.
13:52 <Dynamo>alright then
13:52 <IcyMew>Now there's a troll thread about it.
13:52 <Dynamo>I'll ask konar what role iced2 has within grandvoid
13:53 <IcyMew>Okay.
13:53 <Dynamo>first and foremost get back in the channel
13:53 <Dynamo>20:54  <Dynamo>what role does iced2 have within grandvoid?
13:53 <Dynamo>20:54  <TheToxicAvenger>He has one?
13:53 <IcyMew>After this I'd like to speak with whomever can help me with this whole problem over unwarranted arguing and hostility towards geniune good works.
13:54 <Dynamo>you can talk to me about anything EXCEPT the competitive section on the forums or competitive servers in general
13:54 <IcyMew>Direct me to someone who can help me with this then.
13:54 <IcyMew>Because at this time this is my prime concern.
13:56 <Dynamo>I just asked in the staff channel
13:56 <IcyMew>Okay. Please get somebody who is prepared or willing to speak with me on this subject if there are any.