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  1. Nov 27 15:32:43 <copypaste> hey
  2. Nov 27 15:32:46 <copypaste> i got good news for you
  3. Nov 27 15:32:52 <n-tech>    wassat
  4. Nov 27 15:32:56 <copypaste> jim wants to meet you tomorrow
  5. Nov 27 15:32:59 <copypaste> he's offering you a job
  6. Nov 27 15:33:02 <copypaste> but don't tell him i told you that
  7. Nov 27 15:33:06 <n-tech>    To do what?
  8. Nov 27 15:33:11 <copypaste> i don't know
  9. Nov 27 15:33:12 <n-tech>    oh it's secret
  10. Nov 27 15:33:13 <n-tech>    okay
  11. Nov 27 15:33:16 <copypaste> yeah
  12. Nov 27 15:33:22 <n-tech>    probably having to do with the financial future of 8chan
  13. Nov 27 15:33:30 <copypaste> he says he's impressed with the beta site
  14. Nov 27 15:33:42 <n-tech>    i am a nuclear engine of autism
  15. Nov 27 15:34:17 <n-tech>    hum
  16. Nov 27 15:34:21 <n-tech>    well shit today's a good day then
  17. Nov 27 15:34:29 <n-tech>    I'm so happy I found my issue with referenecs
  18. Nov 27 15:34:29 <n-tech>    ; ;
  19. Nov 27 15:34:34 <copypaste> :D
  20. Nov 27 15:38:12 <n-tech>    thanks for the heads up too
  21. Nov 27 15:38:16 <n-tech>    I have to do my spring cleaning and bathe
  22. Nov 27 15:38:18 <n-tech>    =3=
  23. Nov 27 15:38:21 <n-tech>    so stressful
  24. Nov 27 15:38:43 <copypaste> we're going to meet at like a restaurant
  25. Nov 27 15:38:47 <copypaste> not are your apartment man
  26. Nov 27 15:38:50 <copypaste> at*
  27. Nov 27 15:38:52 <n-tech>    o ok
  28. Nov 27 15:38:58 <n-tech>    mm food
  29. Nov 27 15:40:50 <copypaste> it'll be at Giovanni's
  30. Nov 27 15:40:54 <copypaste> i know where it is
  31. Nov 27 15:41:00 <n-tech>    sounds like pizza
  32. Nov 27 15:41:00 <copypaste> it's right downstairs. we went there when you first came here
  33. Nov 27 15:41:03 <copypaste> yep
  34. Nov 27 15:41:08 <n-tech>    didn't we eat there
  35. Nov 27 15:41:13 <n-tech>    like straight from the airport
  36. Nov 27 15:41:17 <copypaste> yeah we did
  37. Nov 27 15:41:19 <copypaste> that's what i said, lol
  38. Nov 27 15:41:21 <n-tech>    o
  39. Nov 27 15:41:23 <n-tech>    O
  40. Nov 27 15:41:38 <copypaste> ok. 10AM tomorrow
  41. Nov 27 15:41:41 <copypaste> i'll come get you
  42. Nov 27 15:42:12 <copypaste> it will be you, jim, mochi and i
  43. Nov 27 15:43:39 <copypaste> also, you should know that jim spent the last month at like a temple or something learning yoga
  44. Nov 27 15:43:51 <copypaste> he hurt his hip really bad and went to the hospital at the end of it
  45. Nov 27 15:43:54 <copypaste> but he did graduate
  46. Nov 27 15:46:51 <n-tech>    fuck man
  47. Nov 27 15:46:52 <n-tech>    that sucks
  48. Nov 27 15:47:18 <n-tech>    man this motherfucker with my box
  49. Nov 27 15:47:23 <n-tech>    has an hour and 15 minutes to get to me with my box
  50. Nov 27 15:47:34 <n-tech>    or imma be really steamed at these guys
  51. Nov 27 15:48:26 <n-tech>    Does this mean Jim has seen beta/jim/?
  52. Nov 27 15:48:48 <copypaste> you know i don't know
  53. Nov 27 15:48:50 <copypaste> you'll have to ask him
  54. Nov 27 23:30:45 <copypaste> aw man i just crashed my GTA:SA by editing my save file to put an RC bandit in the garage
  55. Nov 27 23:30:59 <n-tech>    god fuck those missions
  56. Nov 27 23:31:04 <n-tech>    the zero rc missions can suck a dick
  57. Nov 27 23:31:09 <n-tech>    literally the only missions i never completed
  58. Nov 27 23:31:12 <n-tech>    could never blow up the fucking vans
  59. Nov 27 23:31:31 <copypaste> wow really?
  60. Nov 27 23:31:35 <n-tech>    yea
  61. Nov 27 23:31:38 <n-tech>    infuriating
  62. Nov 27 23:31:39 <copypaste> i had a lot of trouble with the last one from him
  63. Nov 27 23:31:43 <copypaste> if you never blew up the vans
  64. Nov 27 23:31:45 <copypaste> you nevre got to it
  65. Nov 27 23:31:48 <n-tech>    i never got that far, but I knew of them
  66. Nov 27 23:31:52 <copypaste> you literally have 5 seconds
  67. Nov 27 23:31:56 <n-tech>    because I read a ton of guides
  68. Nov 27 23:32:04 <copypaste> you have to help his bandit get through an obsticale coruse
  69. Nov 27 23:33:43 <n-tech>    I have a nigger song for you
  70. Nov 27 23:33:45 <n-tech>    that you might actually like
  71. Nov 27 23:33:47 <n-tech>    wanna hear it?
  72. Nov 27 23:34:23 <n-tech>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eIf3GijdMA
  73. Nov 27 23:35:37 <n-tech>    this is probably
  74. Nov 27 23:35:39 <n-tech>    the most nigger song
  75. Nov 27 23:35:42 <n-tech>    i've ever fucking heard
  76. Nov 27 23:35:46 <n-tech>    like it's just so dense
  77. Nov 27 23:35:50 <n-tech>    listen to the lyrics, if you can
  78. Nov 27 23:35:50 <copypaste> it's not bad
  79. Nov 27 23:35:51 <n-tech>    all of it
  80. Nov 27 23:35:55 <n-tech>    no no no just listen to the lyrics
  81. Nov 27 23:35:58 <n-tech>    the song is really good actually
  82. Nov 27 23:35:59 <copypaste> 2 and 3 dollas between us
  83. Nov 27 23:36:00 <copypaste> :DD
  84. Nov 27 23:36:01 <n-tech>    but the LYRICS
  85. Nov 27 23:36:02 <n-tech>    are NIGGER
  86. Nov 27 23:36:04 <n-tech>    it gets so much worse
  87. Nov 27 23:36:19 <copypaste> dominos boy lol
  88. Nov 27 23:36:23 <n-tech>    every verse
  89. Nov 27 23:36:26 <n-tech>    is more nigger than the last
  90. Nov 27 23:36:32 <n-tech>    you're gonna love like 3 minutes in
  91. Nov 27 23:36:32 <copypaste> ain't you hungry my nigga
  92. Nov 27 23:36:35 <copypaste> i'm dying
  93. Nov 27 23:36:36 <n-tech>    helll yeaaaa
  94. Nov 27 23:37:56 <copypaste> that CC fraud part
  95. Nov 27 23:37:59 <copypaste> i'm not even mad
  96. Nov 27 23:38:03 <n-tech>    gets worse man
  97. Nov 27 23:38:06 <copypaste> i thought that was white trash type of crime
  98. Nov 27 23:38:12 <copypaste> i KNOW people who do that
  99. Nov 27 23:38:15 <n-tech>    lolol
  100. Nov 27 23:38:29 <copypaste> niggas getting in on our trailer park business
  101. Nov 27 23:38:39 <copypaste> i'm going to tell my homeys to pop em
  102. Nov 27 23:38:40 <copypaste> :^)
  103. Nov 27 23:38:50 <n-tech>    hood versus the park man
  104. Nov 27 23:38:57 <n-tech>    or maybe even
  105. Nov 27 23:38:59 <n-tech>    hood versus the hoods
  106. Nov 27 23:39:07 <copypaste> fuck the welfare, we say reparations
  107. Nov 27 23:39:10 <copypaste> topkek
  108. Nov 27 23:39:11 <n-tech>    yeeeee
  109. Nov 27 23:39:16 <n-tech>    that's the good one
  110. Nov 27 23:40:09 <copypaste> flips all steal from their jobs
  111. Nov 27 23:40:15 <copypaste> that's the purpose of the security guards
  112. Nov 27 23:40:16 <copypaste> as i told you
  113. Nov 27 23:40:19 <copypaste> they don't care about us
  114. Nov 27 23:40:29 <copypaste> i mean, they help me (even carry wheelchairs upstairs)
  115. Nov 27 23:40:37 <copypaste> but they aren't there to watch us
  116. Nov 27 23:40:39 <copypaste> lol
  117. Nov 27 23:40:49 <n-tech>    what do you mean?
  118. Nov 27 23:41:09 <copypaste> i mean that filipino employees are by and large thieves.
  119. Nov 27 23:41:09 <n-tech>    it feels like i missed a line or two
  120. Nov 27 23:41:13 <n-tech>    ahh
  121. Nov 27 23:41:14 <n-tech>    lol
  122. Nov 27 23:41:23 <n-tech>    idk the security guards are chill here
  123. Nov 27 23:41:29 <n-tech>    i've not had a bad encounter with an employee
  124. Nov 27 23:41:34 <copypaste> yeah, as i said they're there to keep the employees in check
  125. Nov 27 23:41:37 <copypaste> and to keep the other guards in check
  126. Nov 27 23:41:45 <copypaste> because it's not hard for an employee and one guard to collude
  127. Nov 27 23:41:47 <n-tech>    are all the men in white narcs then?
  128. Nov 27 23:41:51 <copypaste> yes
  129. Nov 27 23:42:03 <copypaste> they get more money when they turn fools in
  130. Nov 27 23:42:12 <n-tech>    $$narclife$$
  131. Nov 27 23:42:23 <copypaste> i once rode uber with a former NBI agent
  132. Nov 27 23:42:33 <copypaste> i was kind of spooked when a black SUV rolled up and i saw his shirt
  133. Nov 27 23:42:41 <copypaste> lol
  134. Nov 27 23:42:47 <copypaste> he now owns a security guard business
  135. Nov 27 23:42:52 <n-tech>    what? really? do they share rides with uber?
  136. Nov 27 23:42:52 <copypaste> and was telling me about the trade
  137. Nov 27 23:42:54 <n-tech>    or was he the driver?
  138. Nov 27 23:42:59 <copypaste> yeah he was the driver
  139. Nov 27 23:43:05 <n-tech>    we always have fucking weird drivers
  140. Nov 27 23:43:18 <copypaste> i was like first off "NBI don't pay you enough?"
  141. Nov 27 23:43:21 <copypaste> i'm pretty rude i guess
  142. Nov 27 23:43:24 <copypaste> but it got him talking
  143. Nov 27 23:43:26 <copypaste> lol
  144. Nov 27 23:43:26 <n-tech>    lol
  145. Nov 27 23:43:29 <n-tech>    did it?
  146. Nov 27 23:43:37 <copypaste> sure, he told me all about his security guard business
  147. Nov 27 23:43:42 <copypaste> and his ranch with 11 dogs
  148. Nov 27 23:43:47 <n-tech>    bow wow
  149. Nov 27 23:43:54 <n-tech>    nononon
  150. Nov 27 23:43:55 <n-tech>    i meant
  151. Nov 27 23:43:55 <copypaste> it's in antipolo
  152. Nov 27 23:43:59 <copypaste> he even invited me to gothere
  153. Nov 27 23:44:00 <n-tech>    the nbi didn't pay enough
  154. Nov 27 23:44:06 <copypaste> oh
  155. Nov 27 23:44:13 <copypaste> no he just got too old to keep being in it
  156. Nov 27 23:44:16 <copypaste> there's an age limit
  157. Nov 27 23:44:23 <copypaste> for the foot soldiers at least
  158. Nov 27 23:44:43 <copypaste> (if he was telling the truth - he also could have been quietly dismissed for being corrupt to the core)
  159. Nov 27 23:44:50 <copypaste> (lol welcome to the fils)
  160. Nov 27 23:49:21 <n-tech>    http://i.imgur.com/E1Skotu.png
  161. Nov 27 23:51:55 <n-tech>    I wonder what the daily life of Kim Jung Un is
  162. Nov 27 23:52:04 <n-tech>    Does he ever have a day to just sit around in his underwear playing western video games
  163. Nov 27 23:52:20 <n-tech>    If I was the God King I'd want those days
  164. Nov 28 00:15:49 <n-tech>    https://beta.8ch.net/next/thread/2909#3299
  165. Nov 28 00:49:01 <copypaste> yes good including CAPTCHA?
  166. Nov 28 00:49:09 <copypaste> and i can lock only certain board's settings?
  167. Nov 28 00:49:12 <n-tech>    there are no captcha settings on the board
  168. Nov 28 00:49:15 <n-tech>    yes
  169. Nov 28 00:49:19 <n-tech>    all locks are board-specific
  170. Nov 28 00:49:22 <copypaste> OK
  171. Nov 28 00:49:32 <n-tech>    the only thing you cant lock
  172. Nov 28 00:49:32 <copypaste> for example, mark once threatened to make his board "SFW"
  173. Nov 28 00:49:35 <n-tech>    and i may have to change this
  174. Nov 28 00:49:36 <n-tech>    yess
  175. Nov 28 00:49:37 <n-tech>    that's one
  176. Nov 28 00:49:43 <copypaste> also, i'd like per-board CAPTCHAs as well...
  177. Nov 28 00:49:46 <n-tech>    title, description, sfw, overboard, indexing
  178. Nov 28 00:49:53 <n-tech>    those are board level and not settings
  179. Nov 28 00:49:54 <copypaste> some boards are just spam magnets
  180. Nov 28 00:49:56 <copypaste> /furry/
  181. Nov 28 00:49:58 <copypaste> OK
  182. Nov 28 00:50:02 <copypaste> but it can be done?
  183. Nov 28 00:50:13 <copypaste> i don't need to be able to lock it
  184. Nov 28 00:50:15 <n-tech>    anything can be done, but that sort of locking wouldn't fit into the convention
  185. Nov 28 00:50:19 <n-tech>    oh you can change it sure
  186. Nov 28 00:50:20 <copypaste> but they should be able to make their CAPTCHAs more strict
  187. Nov 28 00:50:24 <copypaste> ok
  188. Nov 28 00:50:31 <n-tech>    captcha settings would be easy
  189. Nov 28 00:50:33 <n-tech>    it's "planned"
  190. Nov 28 00:50:38 <n-tech>    i want people to pick captcha profiles too
  191. Nov 28 00:50:43 <n-tech>    between light/dark/chinese/arabic
  192. Nov 28 00:50:52 <n-tech>    only the first two are colors
  193. Nov 28 00:50:53 <copypaste> cool
  194. Nov 28 00:50:56 <copypaste> also do a kana one
  195. Nov 28 00:50:56 <n-tech>    im not talking like brown colored captchas
  196. Nov 28 00:50:58 <n-tech>    that'd be racist
  197. Nov 28 00:50:59 <copypaste> for ultra weebs
  198. Nov 28 00:51:00 <n-tech>    oh that's done
  199. Nov 28 00:51:01 <n-tech>    :---DDD
  200. Nov 28 00:51:06 <copypaste> neat
  201. Nov 28 00:51:06 <n-tech>    i forgot jap
  202. Nov 28 00:52:11 <n-tech>    I'm doing uh, content originality settings
  203. Nov 28 00:52:16 <n-tech>    for image and post specifications
  204. Nov 28 00:52:18 <n-tech>    that's the second blocker
  205. Nov 28 00:52:25 <n-tech>    it's going to be:
  206. Nov 28 00:52:32 <n-tech>    Image [thread/board] enforcement
  207. Nov 28 00:52:40 <n-tech>    Post content [thread/board/r9k] enforcement
  208. Nov 28 00:52:45 <n-tech>    where r9k is board but with autobans
  209. Nov 28 00:54:21 <copypaste> you keep dodging the v1 API :-DDDD
  210. Nov 28 00:54:30 <n-tech>    because it's shib :---DDDDD
  211. Nov 28 00:54:33 <copypaste> yeah
  212. Nov 28 00:54:49 <copypaste> how hard is it to insert a post in all V1 API thread responses
  213. Nov 28 00:54:51 <copypaste> just
  214. Nov 28 00:54:57 <n-tech>    not very
  215. Nov 28 00:55:04 <n-tech>    you know what's going to be hard?
  216. Nov 28 00:55:05 <n-tech>    maintaining it
  217. Nov 28 00:55:10 <n-tech>    i will probably have to make fucking
  218. Nov 28 00:55:13 <n-tech>    unit tests for that shit
  219. Nov 28 00:55:18 <n-tech>    ffssfskfjgfd
  220. Nov 28 00:56:14 <copypaste> "This response uses the V1 API ("4chan compatible API / vichan API"). This API will be deprecated on January 1, 2017 in favor of the new API, documented here(link). Please inform the developer of this application that he needs to update before then. Also, any new feature that was not available in the v1 API will not be available to you."
  221. Nov 28 00:56:19 <copypaste> second post in every v1 JSON
  222. Nov 28 00:56:24 <copypaste> should spur action
  223. Nov 28 05:55:14 *   Disconnected (No such device or address)
  224. Nov 28 11:19:08 <copypaste> shit dude that was crazy
  225. Nov 28 11:19:15 <n-tech>    lol
  226. Nov 28 11:19:26 <copypaste> i'm letting him have it in slack now
  227. Nov 28 11:19:37 <copypaste> he wrote "let's close 8chan" into my query window
  228. Nov 28 11:19:39 <copypaste> not into the servers chat
  229. Nov 28 11:19:41 <copypaste> he's playing games
  230. Nov 28 11:19:47 <n-tech>    duh
  231. Nov 28 11:20:03 <n-tech>    he understands that 8chan is a binding of people surrounding a set of boxes and software
  232. Nov 28 11:20:10 <n-tech>    and if the underlyings change they will migrate as they have before
  233. Nov 28 11:20:28 <copypaste> lol
  234. Nov 28 11:20:34 <copypaste> things will fall apart without our support
  235. Nov 28 11:20:38 <copypaste> he thinks RQI can fix vichan?
  236. Nov 28 11:20:40 <copypaste> pffhahaha
  237. Nov 28 11:20:47 <n-tech>    they'd end up using next on public agpl3
  238. Nov 28 11:20:57 <copypaste> perhaps ron will chip in and write a new broken thing in haskell
  239. Nov 28 11:21:04 <copypaste> eight months later when the site is dead as a doornail
  240. Nov 28 11:21:12 <n-tech>    my offer was good idk what the problem was
  241. Nov 28 11:21:17 <copypaste> neither do i
  242. Nov 28 11:21:22 <n-tech>    i lit up when i found the words "sublicense" in my brain
  243. Nov 28 11:21:27 <n-tech>    i was like aww yeee that's the right word
  244. Nov 28 11:21:54 <n-tech>    maybe he got mad because a dumpy looking hippie in a hoodie in 40 degree heat stood him up on a pretty attractive offer
  245. Nov 28 11:22:06 <copypaste> lol
  246. Nov 28 11:22:17 <copypaste> i told him that you are not all about money
  247. Nov 28 11:22:20 <copypaste> and you are about the community
  248. Nov 28 11:22:29 <copypaste> i chose AGPL as an insurance policy by the way
  249. Nov 28 11:22:33 <copypaste> it's like a last will and testament
  250. Nov 28 11:22:44 <copypaste> if he fucks up 8ch it can move because the software is free
  251. Nov 28 11:22:48 <copypaste> just like RMS would have wanted
  252. Nov 28 11:23:03 <n-tech>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYURxfaTdpY
  253. Nov 28 11:23:32 <copypaste> we could have gone with BSD but i had it in the back of my mind
  254. Nov 28 11:23:35 <copypaste> that he's pull some BS like this
  255. Nov 28 11:23:39 <copypaste> now you see the value of AGPL
  256. Nov 28 11:23:51 <n-tech>    for things like this ye
  257. Nov 28 11:23:57 <n-tech>    i think that agpl3 on brennan captcha was excessive
  258. Nov 28 11:24:02 <copypaste> yeah
  259. Nov 28 11:24:04 <n-tech>    we did have a contributor for that yesterday though
  260. Nov 28 11:24:05 <copypaste> i should bsd that
  261. Nov 28 11:24:15 <n-tech>    oman contributed arabic captchas :^)
  262. Nov 28 11:24:19 <copypaste> lol
  263. Nov 28 11:24:22 <n-tech>    he even added rtl solutions
  264. Nov 28 11:24:37 <n-tech>    i had a feeling jim is just going to be like
  265. Nov 28 11:24:44 <n-tech>    one of those people who I fucking infuriate for reasons beyond me
  266. Nov 28 11:24:49 <copypaste> https://imgur.com/xgVa9pu
  267. Nov 28 11:24:54 <copypaste> this is what i wrote to him
  268. Nov 28 11:26:08 <n-tech>    maybe he's just seeing if we talk about this
  269. Nov 28 11:26:16 <n-tech>    i'm trying to give jim credit somehow in my mind
  270. Nov 28 11:26:17 <n-tech>    lol
  271. Nov 28 11:26:19 <copypaste> lol
  272. Nov 28 11:31:46 <copypaste> part 2 https://i.imgur.com/rQJDWs7.png
  273. Nov 28 11:38:25 <n-tech>    i didn't troll him i asked a question
  274. Nov 28 11:38:32 <n-tech>    if i can't ask questions we can't do business
  275. Nov 28 11:38:43 <n-tech>    i'm not going to let myself be bullied by some old prick who doesn't get modern technology and consumerism
  276. Nov 28 11:38:52 <n-tech>    respecting the user is the keystone to a successful business
  277. Nov 28 11:39:15 <copypaste> i agree with you
  278. Nov 28 11:40:24 <copypaste>  jim 11:31 AM My concern is company privacy. I don't care about license if it is developed inside the company. I am concerned that josh can't or won't keep secrets. I understand why he doesn't hold jobs well. I can overlook that personality defect, but I can't allow company privacy to be at risk.
  279. Nov 28 11:40:26 <copypaste> ​
  280. Nov 28 11:40:28 <copypaste> 11:34
  281. Nov 28 11:40:30 <copypaste> So figure it out fredrick. You are the manager. If you can control him and use him effectively and keep contact with me at a minimum. We can hire him.
  282. Nov 28 11:40:32 <copypaste> copypaste
  283. Nov 28 11:40:34 <copypaste> 11:36 AM What is "company privacy"? The board software is open and anonymous. This model actually guarantees that secret components won't ever be accidentally leaked. Right now on 8chan all components have to be hardlinked into the code ("include"). The new software allows all components being in their own world, and you still being able to "login with your 8ch account." (Just like "Login with
  284. Nov 28 11:40:36 <copypaste> your Facebook account"). That is how passes and softserve will eventually be implemented, as closed source software that links via OAuth.
  285. Nov 28 11:40:38 <copypaste> ​
  286. Nov 28 11:40:40 <copypaste> 11:36
  287. Nov 28 11:40:42 <copypaste> This model is actually technically genius because it allows us to mix the strength of the AGPL with closed source componoents. I came up with it.
  288. Nov 28 11:40:44 <copypaste> ​
  289. Nov 28 11:40:46 <copypaste> 11:38
  290. Nov 28 11:40:48 <copypaste> You shouldn't expect Josh to keep secrets for you, because up until now he didn't work for you. He worked for the 8chan community and they all donated to him.
  291. Nov 28 11:40:50 <copypaste> ​
  292. Nov 28 11:40:52 <copypaste> 11:38
  293. Nov 28 11:40:54 <copypaste> I chose to endorse his software after a short contest because it was the soundest option presented, but this was entirely a community effort.
  294. Nov 28 11:40:56 <copypaste> ​
  295. Nov 28 11:40:58 <copypaste> 11:40
  296. Nov 28 11:41:01 <copypaste> Other entries were a node.js imageboard, an unfinished Python concept and some Haskell vaporware.
  297. Nov 28 11:41:12 <n-tech>    ll
  298. Nov 28 11:41:18 <n-tech>    i can't spill company secrets if i don't know any
  299. Nov 28 11:41:23 <n-tech>    all the things i do know how remained with me
  300. Nov 28 11:41:29 <n-tech>    i asked him a question that anyone using 8chan could have asked
  301. Nov 28 11:41:39 <n-tech>    i just asked it really well because I knew exactly what answer I needed to hear
  302. Nov 28 11:41:49 <n-tech>    I held my job for 4 years and left on my own terms
  303. Nov 28 11:41:54 <n-tech>    because they pissed me off
  304. Nov 28 11:42:02 <n-tech>    people who piss me off don't get to have influence over me
  305. Nov 28 11:43:01 <n-tech>    he's not telling you what he's really worried about
  306. Nov 28 11:43:07 <copypaste> yeah
  307. Nov 28 11:43:09 <n-tech>    he thinks i'm some uber-virtuous whistleblower
  308. Nov 28 11:43:16 <n-tech>    who will fuck him over the first chance I get
  309. Nov 28 11:43:23 <copypaste> what whistle is there to blow?
  310. Nov 28 11:43:28 <n-tech>    he breaks many laws
  311. Nov 28 11:43:29 <copypaste> unless he's really datamining or something
  312. Nov 28 11:43:30 <n-tech>    he doesn't trust me
  313. Nov 28 11:43:43 <copypaste> what laws?
  314. Nov 28 11:43:58 <n-tech>    his tax shit is probably iffy, what he wants to do with 8chan might not be in people's best interest
  315. Nov 28 11:44:06 <n-tech>    he's afraid of having someone hurting 2channel from within
  316. Nov 28 11:44:10 <n-tech>    and you know what they say
  317. Nov 28 11:44:18 <n-tech>    never trust a man with long hair, a hoodie, and a laptop
  318. Nov 28 11:45:42 <copypaste> jim
  319. Nov 28 11:45:45 <copypaste> 11:40 AM OK, I don't want to interact with him. Security is your responsibility. If you can control him we can hire him. In the future please talk to and explain to me before community efforts begin. It is my fault for never visiting the infinity next website.
  320. Nov 28 11:45:47 <copypaste> copypaste
  321. Nov 28 11:45:49 <copypaste> 11:45 AM It was never the plan to hire him, at least it was never my plan. This was your idea and I entertained it, but I shouldn't have. The new software is well commented and uses a well-known framework "Laravel". We really don't need his help after it's done, though it would be nice. I planned to just let him go work on his Chinese chan (which yes, will probably fail) and then maintain it
  322. Nov 28 11:45:51 <copypaste> myself, perhaps with RQI helping and share-alike my changes.
  323. Nov 28 11:45:53 <copypaste> ​
  324. Nov 28 11:45:55 <copypaste> 11:45
  325. Nov 28 11:45:57 <copypaste> That was the whole plan.
  326. Nov 28 11:45:59 <copypaste> ​
  327. Nov 28 11:46:01 <copypaste> 11:45
  328. Nov 28 11:46:03 <copypaste> You made alternate offers which confused things
  329. Nov 28 11:46:41 <copypaste> I trusted that you understood the project's status considering it's public information, but I guess I was naive...
  330. Nov 28 11:47:14 <copypaste> -
  331. Nov 28 11:47:30 <copypaste> sorry if this hurts your feelings but it's all true, if you left we could continue to maintain it, that's the whole point of the rewrite
  332. Nov 28 11:47:38 <n-tech>    yeah that's the whole idea
  333. Nov 28 11:47:43 <n-tech>    that wouldn't hurt my feelings, it's what i wnat
  334. Nov 28 11:47:50 <n-tech>    people are disposable
  335. Nov 28 11:48:45 <n-tech>    i am finally chaotic neutral
  336. Nov 28 11:50:04 <copypaste> I can't believe he offered you a salary even
  337. Nov 28 11:50:22 <copypaste> I think he's going senile or way out of touch with the reality of the situation
  338. Nov 28 11:50:33 <n-tech>    he can't buy me and he hates it
  339. Nov 28 11:50:44 <copypaste> Perhaps he wants you to take my place
  340. Nov 28 11:50:50 <copypaste> That could be it, I wouldn't mind
  341. Nov 28 11:50:50 <n-tech>    THE SINGAPOREAN DREAM
  342. Nov 28 11:50:53 <copypaste> lol
  343. Nov 28 11:51:00 <copypaste> Or at least wanted
  344. Nov 28 11:51:09 <n-tech>    I doubt it, he fucking hates me apparently lol
  345. Nov 28 11:51:40 <copypaste> At the end of the convo he fucking hated you
  346. Nov 28 11:51:44 <copypaste> But at the beginning he was offering you shit
  347. Nov 28 11:51:48 <copypaste> Did you hear 100,000?
  348. Nov 28 11:51:51 <copypaste> That's pesos.
  349. Nov 28 11:51:54 <n-tech>    i her 100 but i don't know what that means lol
  350. Nov 28 11:51:56 <n-tech>    per month?
  351. Nov 28 11:52:02 <copypaste> I'm positve.
  352. Nov 28 11:52:07 <copypaste> That's how salaries are paid here.
  353. Nov 28 11:52:12 <copypaste> Actually bi-weekly and 13th month pay.
  354. Nov 28 11:52:21 <n-tech>    + rent
  355. Nov 28 11:52:25 <n-tech>    that's almost as much as i made in aus
  356. Nov 28 11:52:33 <copypaste> Mochi gets a salary of 10,000
  357. Nov 28 11:52:34 <n-tech>    if it was biweekly that's more than i made in aus
  358. Nov 28 11:52:35 <n-tech>    lol
  359. Nov 28 11:52:39 <copypaste> For Christmas she gets an extra 10K
  360. Nov 28 11:52:43 <copypaste> (this is a tradition here)
  361. Nov 28 11:52:46 <n-tech>    aww
  362. Nov 28 11:53:15 <copypaste> It could be monthly, but since he quoted pesos
  363. Nov 28 11:53:21 <copypaste> I think he wanted to pay you using the local system.
  364. Nov 28 11:53:46 <n-tech>    between 2600~4700$ a month
  365. Nov 28 11:53:51 <n-tech>    depending on if it was biweekly or not
  366. Nov 28 11:55:06 <copypaste> jim
  367. Nov 28 11:55:08 <copypaste> 11:51 AM No I don't understand it. I felt sorry for Josh because he seemed to be getting a raw deal, and Ron was saying we should hire him. I am sorry I wasted your time.
  368. Nov 28 11:55:10 <copypaste> copypaste
  369. Nov 28 11:55:12 <copypaste> 11:54 AM He is probably getting a raw deal, I agree. But he's very much a free spirited person. He really believes in this Chinese chan, and no one can talk him out of it. I'm fine with it, the project had been going so well until today
  370. Nov 28 11:55:14 <copypaste> ​
  371. Nov 28 11:55:16 <copypaste> 11:54
  372. Nov 28 11:55:18 <copypaste> We were planning to switch 8ch.net over on the 15th and by January have completely taken over development. Then he'd probably leave in February.
  373. Nov 28 11:55:40 <copypaste> -
  374. Nov 28 11:57:04 <n-tech>    the issue is very much that he doesn't trust me because I have a code lol
  375. Nov 28 11:57:15 <copypaste> lol
  376. Nov 28 11:57:31 <copypaste> the code is open though
  377. Nov 28 11:57:33 <copypaste> it's not like it's secret
  378. Nov 28 11:57:38 <copypaste> he just doesn't like that he has to share
  379. Nov 28 11:57:51 <n-tech>    he kept saying stuff about security but that's the main purpose of open source
  380. Nov 28 11:57:52 <copypaste> (even though that will be completely my responsibility)
  381. Nov 28 11:57:58 <copypaste> i know
  382. Nov 28 11:58:03 <n-tech>    and even if all of 8chan dumped
  383. Nov 28 11:58:03 <copypaste> that's not the problem at all
  384. Nov 28 11:58:07 <n-tech>    even if the contents of the beta server leaked
  385. Nov 28 11:58:10 <n-tech>    there is nothing valuable there
  386. Nov 28 11:58:16 <n-tech>    even authorship data is retained for only 2 weeks
  387. Nov 28 11:58:16 <copypaste> only PIs
  388. Nov 28 11:58:18 <copypaste> IPs*
  389. Nov 28 11:58:21 <copypaste> yeah
  390. Nov 28 11:58:24 <copypaste> that's even better than 8ch.net
  391. Nov 28 11:58:29 <copypaste> which keeps it as long as posts exist.
  392. Nov 28 11:58:40 <n-tech>    yea and i tell people that and it always surprises them lol
  393. Nov 28 11:58:53 <copypaste> I'll have to rewrite the privacy policy
  394. Nov 28 11:58:57 <copypaste> To match the new software
  395. Nov 28 11:59:03 <copypaste> Except this time it'll be better than the old one
  396. Nov 28 11:59:08 <copypaste> no forced YT embeds and so on
  397. Nov 28 12:01:51 <copypaste> so glad you accepted this license right now
  398. Nov 28 12:01:57 <copypaste> we beat the man
  399. Nov 28 12:02:04 <copypaste> he just folded
  400. Nov 28 12:03:17 <n-tech>    http://i.imgur.com/nE4yxFo.jpg
  401. Nov 28 12:06:31 <copypaste> also
  402. Nov 28 12:06:39 <copypaste> the last time i gave you money i told you it was a donation but i lied
  403. Nov 28 12:06:40 <copypaste> that's true
  404. Nov 28 12:06:44 <copypaste> i knew you wouldn't take it from me
  405. Nov 28 12:06:47 <copypaste> unless you thought it was a donation
  406. Nov 28 12:06:50 <copypaste> so, surprise! ( ≖‿≖)
  407. Nov 28 12:07:05 <n-tech>    did ron give you money ..?
  408. Nov 28 12:07:14 <copypaste> Pulled it out of my savings
  409. Nov 28 12:07:20 <n-tech>    ;~; don't do that ok
  410. Nov 28 12:07:23 <n-tech>    stannis got my back
  411. Nov 28 12:07:26 <n-tech>    he a real trooper
  412. Nov 28 12:08:49 <copypaste> i'm good now though, i thoght it would be hard but i got that oekaki contract
  413. Nov 28 12:08:55 <copypaste> already signed and paid jim can't retract it
  414. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    gcam [12:21 PM]
  415. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    I want to save pages as a static site, to be served statically directly from nginx for speed
  416. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    jawsh [12:28 PM]
  417. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    not
  418. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    ​[12:28]
  419. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    no
  420. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    ​[12:28]
  421. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    no
  422. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    ​[12:28]
  423. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    no no no
  424. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    ​[12:28]
  425. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    do not do that
  426. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    ​[12:28]
  427. Nov 28 12:28:47 <n-tech>    DO NOT do that
  428. Nov 28 12:35:47 <n-tech>    Is he still saying anything?
  429. Nov 28 13:21:33 <n-tech>    cwcvilletechsupport
  430. Nov 28 13:40:33 <copypaste> sent
  431. Nov 28 13:40:38 <copypaste> i called his cell in japan
  432. Nov 28 13:40:43 <copypaste> he'll call you on skype when he has time
  433. Nov 28 13:40:51 <n-tech>    alrighty, thanks
  434. Nov 28 13:41:02 <copypaste> also here's the schedule
  435. Nov 28 13:41:09 <copypaste> Hey Fred. I’m preparing to order these tickets. So you and Josh will fly to Okinawa on the 21st. Then we all go to Sapporo on the 24th, then back on the 28th. Correct?Since Josh is with you, I’ll probably go to Tokyo on the 16th, and then meet you guys in Okinawa. I just need Josh's full name.
  436. Nov 28 13:41:22 <n-tech>    sweet
  437. Nov 28 13:41:23 <n-tech>    thanks
  438. Nov 28 13:41:23 <copypaste> i told him your name already so that's all set
  439. Nov 28 13:41:35 <copypaste> we're setting both extremes of japan
  440. Nov 28 13:41:38 <copypaste> okinawa and sapporo
  441. Nov 28 13:41:40 <copypaste> (⌐■‿■)
  442. Nov 28 13:42:03 <copypaste> they sell dihydrocodeine OTC in japan so i will be high the whole time
  443. Nov 28 13:42:07 <copypaste> it'll be a gr8 vacation
  444. Nov 28 13:42:14 <n-tech>    is that an upper or a downer
  445. Nov 28 13:42:28 <copypaste> they mix it with caffeine
  446. Nov 28 13:42:30 <copypaste> so both :DD
  447. Nov 28 13:42:34 <n-tech>    wew
  448. Nov 28 13:42:53 <copypaste> i blame kara for all my drug experimentation
  449. Nov 28 13:42:56 <copypaste> she got me into this shit
  450. Nov 28 13:42:57 <copypaste> fucking bitch
  451. Nov 28 13:43:10 <copypaste> before her i had never even drank alcohol
  452. Nov 28 13:43:14 <copypaste> or smoked weed, or had sex
  453. Nov 28 13:43:17 <n-tech>    you still don't lightweight
  454. Nov 28 13:43:23 <n-tech>    ye you could be like me
  455. Nov 28 13:43:29 <n-tech>    viced by pure desire for productivity
  456. Nov 28 13:43:32 <n-tech>    well then again i did all those things
  457. Nov 28 13:43:32 <copypaste> lol
  458. Nov 28 13:43:38 <n-tech>    but i still like productivity
  459. Nov 28 13:43:40 <n-tech>    sex isn't productive
  460. Nov 28 13:43:44 <n-tech>    only reproductive
  461. Nov 28 13:43:48 <copypaste> after we did all that stuff
  462. Nov 28 13:43:48 <n-tech>    and ain't nobody got time for that
  463. Nov 28 13:43:53 <copypaste> in a month we were doing psychedelic drugs
  464. Nov 28 13:44:02 <copypaste> things ramped up fast
  465. Nov 28 13:44:04 <copypaste> lol
  466. Nov 28 13:44:33 <n-tech>    lol
  467. Nov 28 13:44:37 <n-tech>    i've still never done psychadelics
  468. Nov 28 13:44:54 <copypaste> it's the most fun i've ever had in my life
  469. Nov 28 13:44:58 <copypaste> you should have taken my invitation
  470. Nov 28 13:45:01 <copypaste> i don't get those very often
  471. Nov 28 13:45:05 <copypaste> whenever i do i drop everything
  472. Nov 28 13:45:11 <copypaste> clear the calendar
  473. Nov 28 13:45:15 <copypaste> send mochi somewhere
  474. Nov 28 13:45:18 <copypaste> lol
  475. Nov 28 13:50:20 *   copypaste has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  476. Nov 28 15:00:51 <n-tech>    How much bandwidth does have 8chan have?
  477. Nov 28 15:00:51 *   [copypaste] is away (Not here right now. since 2015-11-28 14:52:05+0800)
  478. Nov 28 15:30:20 <copypaste> 20TB monthly thereabouts
  479. Nov 28 15:30:27 <copypaste> it's not being unplugged so we don't have to worry about it yet
  480. Nov 28 15:30:29 <copypaste> but yeah
  481. Nov 28 15:30:37 <copypaste> i was hoping that this would lower that by 20% or so
  482. Nov 28 15:30:42 <copypaste> but we'll have to see ...
  483. Nov 28 19:43:17 <copypaste> did you talk to ron ?
  484. Nov 28 19:43:30 <copypaste> i think i have a solution that makes everyone happy
  485. Nov 28 19:44:19 <copypaste> you are hired by Ron's company, you get instructions from Ron and I (mostly just "pls help me implement X"), and you don't have to talk to Jim at all
  486. Nov 28 19:44:28 <copypaste> you also aren't privy to any RQI/NTT info so Jim won't care about you
  487. Nov 28 19:44:52 <copypaste> Jim seemed to like this solution
  488. Nov 28 19:46:46 <copypaste> and we have you for a year in case we need help with anything (which we are bound to even though we could figure it out ourselves)
  489. Nov 28 19:46:57 <copypaste> ron seems to really like you which is good news for you
  490. Nov 28 19:47:07 <copypaste> Ron is the Dick Cheney to Jim's George W Bush
  491. Nov 28 23:53:20 *   copypaste has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  492. Nov 29 00:02:33 *   copypaste has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  493. Nov 29 00:59:40 <n-tech>    Ron is amiable. I just don't know what the terms of employment would be.
  494. Nov 29 00:59:48 <n-tech>    If it's just fix stuff on 8chan, add proprietary module to complement public software
  495. Nov 29 00:59:51 <n-tech>    I can do that no problem
  496. Nov 29 01:00:00 <n-tech>    but I'm very opinionated. He needs to know that.
  497. Nov 29 02:47:16 *   copypaste has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  498. Nov 29 17:32:33 <copypaste> ron can handle it much better than jim
  499. Nov 29 17:32:49 <copypaste> jim is someone everyone walks on eggshells around
  500. Nov 29 17:33:11 <copypaste> ron would at least listen to your criticism of softserve or anything even if he didn't agree
  501. Nov 29 17:33:16 <copypaste> jim would just explode
  502. Nov 29 17:33:25 <copypaste> whenever i really want something i talk to ron and he makes it happen
  503. Nov 29 17:33:31 <copypaste> start doing that and you'll be alright
  504. Nov 29 17:34:15 <copypaste> he doesn't even understand why 2ch is still in business, the real reason
  505. Nov 29 17:34:22 <copypaste> not that the other textboards don't scale, that's a lod of shit
  506. Nov 29 17:34:32 <copypaste> it's just a very old, very popular site that everyone knows about
  507. Nov 29 17:35:00 <copypaste> if it was just as easy as "if you build it they will come" he would have been broke last year when all that drama happened
  508. Nov 29 17:35:51 <n-tech>    yea that's why 4chan stays up
  509. Nov 29 17:36:07 <n-tech>    they can abuse the user's trust as long as they want because the oldest users were there when they were kids
  510. Nov 29 17:37:18 <copypaste> after that little incident yesterday
  511. Nov 29 17:37:26 <copypaste> i am going to be much more careful around jim
  512. Nov 29 17:37:48 <n-tech>    I don't consider him trustworthy at all, like that was almost lolcowish
  513. Nov 29 17:37:53 <n-tech>    EXECUTE ORDER SIX SIX
  514. Nov 29 17:37:55 <copypaste> yeah i agree
  515. Nov 29 17:38:18 <n-tech>    i would have totally started up 16ch.sg the same day
  516. Nov 29 17:38:29 <copypaste> if he shut it down, sure
  517. Nov 29 17:38:32 <n-tech>    ye
  518. Nov 29 17:38:32 <copypaste> but he was just bluffing
  519. Nov 29 17:38:35 <copypaste> throwing a tantrum
  520. Nov 29 17:38:35 <n-tech>    ye
  521. Nov 29 17:38:40 <n-tech>    he couldn't buy me
  522. Nov 29 17:38:45 <n-tech>    i am true chaotic neutral
  523. Nov 29 17:38:49 <n-tech>    the autism elemental
  524. Nov 29 17:38:58 <copypaste> i told him befroe to just close it if he's mad about the money
  525. Nov 29 17:39:17 <copypaste> but it's not the money he's concerned about, he told me at taco bell that he's afraid 2ch is getting too far in the past
  526. Nov 29 17:39:24 <copypaste> he's afraid of twitter and other sites the japs are using now
  527. Nov 29 17:39:34 <copypaste> he sees it as a testbed in a language he can understand
  528. Nov 29 17:40:31 <n-tech>    lol, if he had funded it from the beginning I probably would have been okay with it
  529. Nov 29 17:40:34 <n-tech>    but he didn't
  530. Nov 29 17:40:38 <n-tech>    8chan owns that software
  531. Nov 29 17:41:05 <n-tech>    I can afford to work ...
  532. Nov 29 17:41:05 <n-tech>    17 days and 8 hours
  533. Nov 29 17:41:05 <n-tech>    ... thanks to $12,045 donated by generous contributors,
  534. Nov 29 17:41:05 <n-tech>    who have supported development for 208 days so far.
  535. Nov 29 17:47:57 <copypaste> indeed
  536. Nov 29 17:48:02 <copypaste> he didn't like the idea at first
  537. Nov 29 17:48:08 <copypaste> now that it's almost done he wants to be cut in
  538. Nov 29 17:48:23 <copypaste> 8chan was still working back when we started, remember
  539. Nov 29 17:48:27 <copypaste> he probably thought it was unnecessary
  540. Nov 29 17:48:47 <n-tech>    ye the true inspo for this was the posts_ table
  541. Nov 29 17:48:49 <copypaste> and not only that, any ad revenue or whatever is still his
  542. Nov 29 17:48:56 <n-tech>    which is now one of the lesser issues
  543. Nov 29 17:48:58 <copypaste> anything else his RQI guys amke is his
  544. Nov 29 17:49:02 <copypaste> just this is owned by the community
  545. Nov 29 17:49:07 <copypaste> he is a straight up dick about it
  546. Nov 29 17:49:29 <copypaste> yeah i remember
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