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- The rights of women and tumblr
- Feb 05 17:58:31 <Troid> >posting on /pol/
- Feb 05 17:59:27 <Axism> he said he was a victim of cisphobia
- Feb 05 17:59:44 <Axism> ie being persecuted for being the same gender as his biological sexuality
- Feb 05 17:59:48 <Axism> ie straight
- Feb 05 17:59:51 <Troid> lolwut
- Feb 05 17:59:58 <Axism> yeah
- Feb 05 18:00:07 <Axism> he opened a whole can of worms he doesn't understand
- Feb 05 18:00:13 <Axism> his followers are going to eat him alive
- Feb 05 18:01:07 <Cadfael> lol. I sometimes post in the question time threads. I think the old addge 'lurk moar' still applies to boards in general, but piers moran probably does get discussed on occassion, same with the issue at hand
- Feb 05 18:01:16 <Axism> there's apparently this whole complicated system to sexuality and gender
- Feb 05 18:01:27 <Axism> [I don't personally think so]
- Feb 05 18:01:44 <Axism> but apparently biological sex isn't the same as gender, which is psychological or w/e
- Feb 05 18:01:49 <Scrubadour> i got this retweeted at me, so, the spread is already happening.
- Feb 05 18:02:01 <Troid> man
- Feb 05 18:02:07 <Troid> I just can't bring myself to care about any of this nonsense
- Feb 05 18:02:11 <Axism> he is going to get the trans and tumblrette community tearing him to shreds
- Feb 05 18:02:12 <Troid> from either side, whatever they're saying
- Feb 05 18:02:45 <Troid> the words "tumblr" "cis" "trans" "sjw" etc. just put me to sleep immediately
- Feb 05 18:03:03 <Axism> well that's because you're disconnected with the e-world
- Feb 05 18:03:03 <Cadfael> it really undermines bigger issues to do with gender and 'womens issues' globally, its tiresome
- Feb 05 18:03:26 <Axism> what, cadfael, tumblr oppression?
- Feb 05 18:03:26 <Troid> good
- Feb 05 18:03:39 <Axism> or what they define as oppression?
- Feb 05 18:03:43 <Cadfael> yeah
- Feb 05 18:03:49 <Troid> if I were in touch with the e-world I would be much unhappier
- Feb 05 18:03:59 <Axism> It's identity politics, status jockeying, and oppression olympics
- Feb 05 18:04:05 <Axism> all of it
- Feb 05 18:04:15 <Troid> but axism
- Feb 05 18:04:35 <Troid> what about the people who are reasonable and tolerant and actually care about simpler issues like women's rights?
- Feb 05 18:04:55 <Troid> because those are still issues in the real world
- Feb 05 18:05:04 <Axism> they are phazed out by the crackpots
- Feb 05 18:05:09 <Troid> no matter what they've become in the online butthurt blogosphere
- Feb 05 18:05:16 <Axism> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzdf4V7Cf_M
- Feb 05 18:05:19 <Axism> tumblr irl
- Feb 05 18:05:21 <Axism> in essence
- Feb 05 18:05:23 <Troid> they're not though
- Feb 05 18:05:30 <Troid> you can choose to let your views of them be shaped by the crackpots
- Feb 05 18:05:33 <Troid> but that's your fault
- Feb 05 18:06:21 <Scrubadour> Axism what the fuck
- Feb 05 18:06:34 <Troid> like when you were asking what cadfael meant you immediately jumped to define it by "tumblr oppression"
- Feb 05 18:06:40 <Scrubadour> that video
- Feb 05 18:06:43 <Troid> or wait did I misread that
- Feb 05 18:06:56 <Troid> were you clarifying what was being undermined, or what was undermining it?
- Feb 05 18:08:32 <Axism> I was asking if it was "tumblr issues" conflating the real issues, or something else
- Feb 05 18:08:39 <Troid> oh whoops
- Feb 05 18:09:10 <Axism> women's right sare an issue outside of the imaginary mysognist mantopia of the western world
- Feb 05 18:09:22 <Cadfael> yeah
- Feb 05 18:09:34 <Troid> I think the internet stays on the internet for the most part, even when it comes to "tumblr feminism"
- Feb 05 18:09:34 <Axism> dolphins are treated more like people than women in India
- Feb 05 18:09:53 <Troid> anyone who says the kind of things they say online about priviliege and whatever in real life will sound stupid
- Feb 05 18:09:56 <Axism> well these tumblrettes don't invent all their issues
- Feb 05 18:10:03 <Axism> they're taught it in liberal academia
- Feb 05 18:10:19 <Troid> what?
- Feb 05 18:10:21 <Troid> where?
- Feb 05 18:10:28 <Troid> social justice 101?
- Feb 05 18:10:43 <Axism> sociology, psychology, women's studies in general
- Feb 05 18:11:02 <Cadfael> i mean it is complicated, but there seems to be an undue and misplaced discourse being pursued on twitter/tumblr by idiots thats masqurading as feminism/gender issues and the such
- Feb 05 18:12:09 <Troid> axism I'm just imagining that /pol/ image of the head with a teacher shoving gay rights and stuff into the student's head
- Feb 05 18:12:20 <Troid> you don't actually believe real life is like that do you
- Feb 05 18:12:21 <Axism> it's not exactly like that
- Feb 05 18:12:34 <Axism> I've been through some of those courses first hand
- Feb 05 18:12:49 <Axism> sociology instructors love to talk about shit like that
- Feb 05 18:13:00 <Axism> they take statistics
- Feb 05 18:13:08 <Axism> extrapolate them erroneously to guide their ideals
- Feb 05 18:13:11 <Axism> bam
- Feb 05 18:13:13 <Axism> patriarchy
- Feb 05 18:13:18 <Axism> institutionalized racism and sexism
- Feb 05 18:13:33 <Axism> they interpret statistics how they like and work from there
- Feb 05 18:13:47 <Troid> institutionalized racism and sexism are a real thing
- Feb 05 18:14:06 <Axism> not to the extent tumblrettes would have you believe
- Feb 05 18:14:09 <Troid> if you can believe in institutionalized liberal tumblr feminism brainwashing I don't see why that's so hard to believe
- Feb 05 18:14:30 <Troid> well again, that's tumblrettes
- Feb 05 18:14:34 <Axism> tumblrettes go batshit on their own volition
- Feb 05 18:14:36 <Axism> yeh
- Feb 05 18:14:40 <Axism> that's what I'm talking about
- Feb 05 18:15:00 <Axism> those who don't go off the deep end usually just move on
- Feb 05 18:15:10 <BOOF> "inb4 thread turns to full furry discussion and skinfag kike mod that's out for furry blood comes in and b&hammers everyone"
- Feb 05 18:15:20 <BOOF> yes
- Feb 05 18:15:26 <BOOF> fear me mortals
- Feb 05 18:16:05 <Axism> the liberal academia works as a starting point for tumblrettes
- Feb 05 18:16:18 <Troid> I disagree there
- Feb 05 18:16:33 <Troid> people who take class about social justice (and sure, they exist) are looking for that already
- Feb 05 18:17:03 <Axism> some courses are prerequisites
- Feb 05 18:17:06 <Cadfael> we should leave this topic for the boards of /pol/ & /lgbt/ imo, its very un-janiteam
- Feb 05 18:17:07 <Axism> or however its spelt
- Feb 05 18:17:24 <Troid> I don't believe in the narrative of young impressionable students going through their degrees and coming out as the kind raging feminist you dislike
- Feb 05 18:17:32 <Troid> kind of*
- Feb 05 18:17:49 <Axism> not all of them, no
- Feb 05 18:18:03 <Axism> not talking in absolutes here, just saying that's how some of them go
- Feb 05 18:19:26 * LingeringParticles has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
- Feb 05 18:20:23 <yetsturdy> Troid: that's exactly what happens, though
- Feb 05 18:20:43 <Troid> sure whatever
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