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  1. Request for personal ID
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  3. [13:14:27] *** moots changes topic to 'janiteam | We highly suggest setting +GCRp user modes on IRC connect. | Want to change your password? Use https://reports.4chan.org/changepass | CHECK YOUR E-MAIL!'
  4. [13:14:30] <moots> per topic, check email
  5. [13:15:56] <Grubermeister> I haven't recieved an email yet, but I'm hoping its hotpockets coupons
  6. [13:16:20] <Scrubadour> wewll, this way the big m will know where to send them to, if they ever happen
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  9. [13:17:09] <moots> check spam i guess
  10. [13:17:10] <DOTDOTDOT> great now you're gonna see my fucking horrible ID photo
  11. [13:17:11] <Grubermeister> Ah, my bad, it was in my junk folder for some reason
  12. [13:17:16] <Grubermeister> o-oh god
  13. [13:17:24] <Grubermeister> but I was sick when I took my health card photo
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  18. [13:17:41] <Scrubadour> the address specified doesn't seem to work
  19. [13:18:21] <DOTDOTDOT> yeah doesnt work
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  22. [13:19:05] <moots> whoospie
  23. [13:19:16] <moots> try now
  24. [13:19:16] <Grubermeister> Yeah, reports.4chan.org/agreement takes me to a blank page too
  25. [13:19:23] <Grubermeister> oh
  26. [13:19:26] <Scrubadour> moots is there going to be an agency verifying the documents? it's not difficult to get fake IDs or manufacture them, thereby defeating the purpose
  27. [13:19:28] <relare> file not found
  28. [13:19:28] <Grubermeister> much better
  29. [13:19:53] <Grubermeister> >implying we aren't all grabbing our parents ID
  30. [13:19:55] <moots> if by agency you mean moot
  31. [13:20:09] <Grubermeister> but yeah, it says in the email that only moot himself sees them I think
  32. [13:20:12] <moots> it is in fact a crime in the united states to misrepresent your identity for the purposes of an agreement like this
  33. [13:20:49] <Grubermeister> I just want to know how I'm supposed to send you my ID
  34. [13:20:57] <Grubermeister> like, do you just want a picture of my health card or something>
  35. [13:20:58] <Scrubadour> that should probably be stated somewhere, because if someone actually wants to become a janitor and be malicious, they will be able to just forge ID. also what about people outside the US?
  36. [13:21:04] <ChibaK> https://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/52571428/concentrate-all-fire-on-that-super-star-destroyer
  37. [13:21:05] <moots> Your ID
  38. [13:21:05] <moots> A photograph or scanned copy of your government-issued identification document.
  39. [13:21:05] <moots> Must be a JPEG smaller than 2MB and 2000x2000px.
  40. [13:21:14] <moots> look at the bottom of the form
  41. [13:21:19] <Grubermeister> Oops, my bad
  42. [13:21:22] <Troid> :(
  43. [13:21:48] <EconRaptor> No disrespect meant but, what is being asked of the mods, them being in a higher spot over us janitors.
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  46. [13:22:03] <moots> they all signed the same agreement.
  47. [13:22:14] <moots> before you all
  48. [13:22:14] <cdnexplorer> I don't know how I feel about this moots but I understand it's requirement in light of recent events. I will do this sometime this evening.
  49. [13:22:22] <EconRaptor> Ok thank you, it just said janitors so I wasn't 100% sure thanks.
  50. [13:22:38] <moots> if you look at the text of the agreement it's generic and refers to "moderators" "moderation"
  51. [13:22:44] <moots> and not "janitors" in it
  52. [13:22:54] <cdnexplorer> This would be >really bad< if it was leaked however, and that concerns me.
  53. [13:22:55] <moots> that email just went out to you all, but is adapted from essentially the same exact email they got a few weeks ago
  54. [13:23:16] <moots> that is indeed your nightmare and my own because it would mean that someone has access to my harddrive
  55. [13:23:49] <cdnexplorer> So it is only you who will have access to this information?
  56. [13:24:06] <butterfingers> I am fine with this, but not fine with uploading a pic to the server. I'd rather use encrypted email for this stuff
  57. [13:24:11] <moots> unless i have a legal reason/requirement to share it, that's the plan
  58. [13:24:14] <Scrubadour> have you considered putting it into disconnected storage that would only be accessed if needed?
  59. [13:24:28] <moots> my local harddisk is that
  60. [13:24:39] <moots> the information is stored on the server while the counter-signature is pending, but then deleted
  61. [13:25:07] <moots> (i need to counter-sign it)
  62. [13:25:12] <cdnexplorer> Okay. I rest a little easier based on that. Could you give us an exmaple of what kind fo legal requirements would be necessary to share this information?
  63. [13:25:16] <moots> it will generate a PDF and email it to you
  64. [13:25:21] <moots> so you have a copy for your own records
  65. [13:25:26] <butterfingers> but that kinda is the weak link in the whole thing, isn't it? The having it on the server for a bit, I mean
  66. [13:25:37] <moots> law enforcement request, our lawyers needing it for some reason, me enforcing the agreement against you for you violating it
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  69. [13:26:17] <Scrubadour> if it's on your hard disk, it's not really "cold data storage," which is usually offline and needs to be explicitly brought online
  70. [13:26:22] <moots> butterfingers: unfortunately it's the best solution we have
  71. [13:26:33] <moots> i suppose i could store them in an encrypted container on my harddrive
  72. [13:26:41] <moots> i'll do that
  73. [13:26:53] <Scrubadour> http://searchsolidstatestorage.techtarget.com/news/2240214450/Solid-state-technology-for-cold-storage-Facebook-thinks-its-possible
  74. [13:27:21] <Scrubadour> usually used for large backups
  75. [13:27:43] <Scrubadour> amazon glacier is a cloud solution that is this, but probably wouldn't work for this situation
  76. [13:27:56] <cdnexplorer> Rodger that moots. I pray that this information never gets leaked. Just the fact that there could very well be a list of names of people who do this "job" would be tanatilizing to anyone with malicious intent towards our team.
  77. [13:27:57] <Grubermeister> aw man, the only thing that sucks about this is that the only Photo ID I have is just terrible
  78. [13:28:10] <butterfingers> >not looking pretty for moot
  79. [13:28:19] <EconRaptor> Does anyone have a pretty ID? lol.
  80. [13:28:26] <ChibaK> no
  81. [13:28:48] <moots> believe me when i say we share the same concerns
  82. [13:28:54] <moots> i am anal about personal security
  83. [13:28:55] <moots> as you can imagine
  84. [13:28:57] <butterfingers> but really, isn't there an alternative to this uploading a picture to the server thing? It doesn't sit too well with me.
  85. [13:29:01] <WalterWhite> lkololol
  86. [13:29:15] <Scrubadour> could probably send a copy via cerfitied mail?
  87. [13:29:27] <moots> im not accepting them via mail
  88. [13:29:33] <moots> you can pen and paper and PDF it yourself if you want
  89. [13:30:56] <WalterWhite> wow troid
  90. [13:31:23] <Troid> lol
  91. [13:34:25] <Grubermeister> cdnexplorer, well, the only people that even know that this list exists are the people that have their Identity at risk
  92. [13:34:44] <Grubermeister> these files are like our own litte metal gear
  93. [13:35:28] <Kobayashi> Moots, do passport scans count?
  94. [13:35:41] <Grubermeister> Oh yeah, does it need to be a Photo ID?
  95. [13:35:43] <moots> any government-issued ID
  96. [13:35:48] <Grubermeister> I have my birth certificate as well,
  97. [13:35:54] <Kobayashi> Great, because it's the only one I have besides birth certif.
  98. [13:36:12] <ChibaK> https://i.4cdn.org/tv/1421525849139.jpg
  99. [13:36:17] <Kobayashi> containing up-to date info, that is. 2014.
  100. [13:36:19] <butterfingers> I hope you are familiar with foreign stuff
  101. [13:36:41] <relare> moots, does all the information need to be displayed on the id we upload?
  102. [13:36:42] <EconRaptor> >mfw an /o/ janitor doesn't have a DL to scan moot. /k/ no CWP
  103. [13:37:38] <moots> you can PM me specific questions re: IDs you have
  104. [13:37:48] <relare> sounds good
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  106. [13:43:07] <trout-senpai> Grubermeister: well, if someone decided to resign over this, they could feasibly leak the existence of the list
  107. [13:43:55] <DOTDOTDOT> haha great signature moot
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  110. [13:44:28] <moots> two people have done it so far and i can confirm the files are deleted immediately once i counter-sign
  111. [13:44:36] <moots> i'd really recommend you all delete the fully executed agreement from yoru email though
  112. [13:44:39] <moots> and store it locally like i will
  113. [13:45:39] <ChibaK> on paper?
  114. [13:45:52] <moots> no, what
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  116. [13:46:15] <Grubermeister> I'm going to frame mine (^:
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  119. [13:46:33] <Grubermeister> a .pdf isn't a bad idea though
  120. [13:46:43] <Scrubadour> >2. Relationship; No Compensation.
  121. [13:46:45] <Scrubadour> lmao though
  122. [13:46:54] <butterfingers> it's a pity that all the email traffic is not encrypted
  123. [13:46:55] <Scrubadour> now we legally do it for free
  124. [13:47:13] <EconRaptor> Relationship and no compensation, sounds like my last girlfriend!
  125. [13:47:30] <Scrubadour> sick burn
  126. [13:47:36] <moots> >for free
  127. [13:47:41] <moots> i really, really wanted to squeeze that in there
  128. [13:47:43] <moots> alas, lawyers
  129. [13:47:50] <butterfingers> lel
  130. [13:47:54] <EconRaptor> hahah
  131. [13:48:02] <moots> at least i got it in that blog post
  132. [13:48:04] <BearKnife> so what's all this about moot wantin' muh dox?
  133. [13:48:41] <Scrubadour> check your email
  134. [13:48:54] <Scrubadour> alternatively, check https://reports.4chan.org/agreement
  135. [13:48:56] <BearKnife> yeah, I'm just curious as to the minutiae
  136. [13:49:20] <Scrubadour> basically, the big m has your DOX and has the legal basis to sue you if you leak stuff
  137. [13:49:30] <Scrubadour> also you do it for free
  138. [13:49:34] <butterfingers> does law enforcement want your staff's details? or did? Or is that just in there should that ever happen?
  139. [13:50:12] <moots> i've only had it happen once, it was a prosecuting attorney
  140. [13:50:18] <moots> they wanted to know if i could identify a moderator
  141. [13:50:21] <moots> but to date it's never happened
  142. [13:50:24] <moots> but that's not to say it never will
  143. [13:50:36] <moots> if you delete/ban for something that results in a criminal or civil action, it's possible they could try to get you to testify
  144. [13:50:50] <Grubermeister> o-oh jeez
  145. [13:50:51] <moots> but frankly that's always been a thing regardless of whether or not i have your information
  146. [13:50:58] <moots> i would have been legally required to attempt to put them in contact with you
  147. [13:51:04] <moots> but in 11.5 years that's never happened
  148. [13:51:07] <moots> since everyone pleads out anyway
  149. [13:51:18] <butterfingers> yeah, I get it. That's a valid reason.
  150. [13:51:21] <moots> very few 4chan related cases actually go to trial AFAIK
  151. [13:51:26] <butterfingers> thanks for the clarification
  152. [13:51:31] <BearKnife> how would a deletion or BR result in a criminal or civil action, anyway?
  153. [13:51:41] <moots> not against you
  154. [13:51:47] <moots> i mean, theoretically not
  155. [13:51:57] <moots> but say you deleted a post about a school shooting, and that person was then charged with a crime
  156. [13:52:14] <butterfingers> you might as well be wanted as a witness
  157. [13:52:16] <FnFy> Mhm
  158. [13:52:18] <moots> they could possibly ask you to testify as to why you deleted the post, which wouldnt be wrong, but they would use it to build a case against the defendant
  159. [13:52:22] <FnFy> I'm not american, what should I submit?
  160. [13:52:27] <moots> i've testified twice in 11.5 years
  161. [13:52:36] <trout-senpai> can you refuse to testify in that sort of situation
  162. [13:52:38] <moots> and no moderator or janitor has ever been asked/required to
  163. [13:52:39] <moots> no
  164. [13:52:41] <moots> generally not
  165. [13:52:42] <moots> believe me i tried
  166. [13:52:43] <BearKnife> I just don't know how I feel about what is arguably part of the doxxing hotbed (whether you like it or not, that's still a part of this site) having my personal information
  167. [13:52:47] <moots> it's the last fucking thing i wanted to do
  168. [13:52:49] <ChibaK> twice?
  169. [13:53:01] <moots> once was a juvenile case
  170. [13:53:07] <moots> once was the federal trial where the transcript is public
  171. [13:53:10] <ChibaK> oh sry
  172. [13:53:16] <butterfingers> I loved that transcript
  173. [13:53:16] <Kobayashi> Ah shit, I can't submit this data until Monday, 19th
  174. [13:53:30] <moots> http://www.businessinsider.com/4chan-founder-moots-weird-testimony-in-sarah-palin-email-hacking-trial-2010-8
  175. [13:53:38] <ChibaK> fug
  176. [13:53:47] <BearKnife> oh that one? I thought it was the Mad Thad one
  177. [13:53:57] <moots> i've never had to deal with his cases
  178. [13:54:00] <ChibaK> i remember that
  179. [13:54:01] <moots> afaik
  180. [13:54:05] <butterfingers> I imagined you all said that with a deadbeat voice
  181. [13:55:04] <FnFy> moots, I'm not sure how it works for europoors like me. Do I have to submit a scanned copy of both front and left of my ID? Or only the part with my name and photo?
  182. [13:55:14] <FnFy> I meant front and back
  183. [13:55:15] <moots> it can just be the front
  184. [13:55:17] <moots> and a photograph
  185. [13:55:28] <FnFy> Ok. And what about the signature?
  186. [13:55:32] <moots> i just need some way of confirming you are who you say you are
  187. [13:55:38] <moots> you sign it on that form, it explains it
  188. [13:55:43] <moots> By typing your full name below, you are providing us with your digital signature, which is as legally binding as your physical signature. Please note that your signature must exactly match the first and last names that you entered at the top of this web form in order for your submission to be successful, and you must include a signature symbol (such as "/s/") before signing your full name.
  189. [13:55:57] <moots> then i countersign it
  190. [13:55:59] <moots> and you get a PDF via email
  191. [13:56:03] <FnFy> So just "/s/ Name Lastname"?
  192. [13:56:04] <moots> it's pretty spiffy and takes like a second.
  193. [13:56:06] <moots> yes
  194. [13:56:09] <FnFy> Alright
  195. [13:56:25] <BearKnife> so what kind of security measures are in place to make sure that anyone, yourself included, can't misuse this information?
  196. [13:56:31] <FnFy> >inb4 everything leaks tomorrow
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  199. [13:56:44] <butterfingers> >in b4 people replace /s/ with the board they janitor
  200. [13:56:48] <FnFy> kek
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  202. [13:57:11] <BearKnife> not that I don't trust you, but I like to keep people at arms distance with regards to the internet
  203. [13:57:15] <butterfingers>  /mlp/ Applejack Apples
  204. [13:57:37] <EconRaptor> As much as I'm a tin foil hat at time, the local bar tender who I have no idea who he is has seen my ID and my CC. Really all he needs to rip me off for a car loan.
  205. [13:57:39] <Scrubadour> yeah i don't janitor /s/ wtf
  206. [13:57:50] <Scrubadour> ;)
  207. [13:57:54] <moots> it'll be stored locally on my harddrive in an encrypted container
  208. [13:58:06] <moots> and used to enforce the agreement, comply with legal/law enforcement requests and obligations, etc
  209. [13:58:12] <trout-senpai> moot are you going to google us and giggle at our online presence when you know our names
  210. [13:58:36] <Scrubadour> tfw senpai notices you
  211. [13:59:23] <BearKnife> and should I resign at a later juncture, will this information be deleted immediately? or held for a length of time until it is determined no longer needed?
  212. [13:59:49] <Scrubadour> >Your obligations under Sections 4, 5 and 6 of this letter agreement shall survive any termination or expiration of this letter agreement.
  213. [13:59:58] <Scrubadour> even in death you are still legally bound
  214. [13:59:58] <moots> it will likely be held indefinitely, because the agreement stays in force indefinitely.
  215. [14:00:09] <moots> you cant resign and leak shit
  216. [14:02:53] <Starfrog> whats going on??
  217. [14:03:03] <FnFy> Mhm... Given that there's no info about me online I guess I can submit my personal infos without a worry, but I guess we're gonna see a password change this week
  218. [14:03:19] <FnFy> Starfrog, check yo email
  219. [14:03:32] <Starfrog> trying, but it's not working shitty work wifi
  220. [14:03:51] <FnFy> You have to submit your full name and a copy of your ID to be a janitor
  221. [14:04:00] <FnFy> Before monday
  222. [14:04:09] <Starfrog> Easy enough I'll do it right now
  223. [14:04:10] <moots> er the email said 7 days
  224. [14:04:15] <BearKnife> yeah
  225. [14:04:17] <moots> did it not
  226. [14:04:17] <FnFy> Oops
  227. [14:04:19] <BearKnife> I was gonna say
  228. [14:04:20] <FnFy> yeah
  229. [14:04:24] <Starfrog> Moot I'M MUCH MORE HANDSOME THAN MY ID I WAS 17 IN THAT PIC I SWEAR!
  230. [14:04:25] <FnFy> sorry
  231. [14:04:34] <FnFy> >inb4 people fired for being underage
  232. [14:04:36] <Scrubadour> yeah we've got a while to read and accept the agreement, think it over, etc
  233. [14:05:01] <FnFy> There could be a 12 years old in this channel right now, sweating heavily, desperately trying to find a solution
  234. [14:05:09] <Starfrog> big bros id
  235. [14:05:34] <moots> for those who have actually done it and want to comment on the process, feel free
  236. [14:05:39] <moots> a few of you have done it already
  237. [14:05:44] <moots> i'll send out another email clarifying some things
  238. [14:06:07] <BearKnife> Yeah, I'm gonna really have to mull it over. This isn't the kind of thing I'm comfortable with jumping right into, unfortunately
  239. [14:06:16] <trout-senpai> same here
  240. [14:06:29] <moots> totally understand
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  243. [14:06:36] <moots> fwiw it's a requirement for incoming janitors as well
  244. [14:07:14] <Starfrog> I notice it asks for my board, does this mean in the future I wont have a chance to add other boards to my volunteering?
  245. [14:07:28] <Grubermeister> I'm sure that would be updated later on
  246. [14:07:36] <DOTDOTDOT> it didnt ask for my board
  247. [14:07:39] <BearKnife> was there something specific that set this off?
  248. [14:07:49] <Starfrog> In the future I'd like to add more boards to my duty when I'm a bit better.
  249. [14:07:58] <BearKnife> Starfrog /s/ is on all the forms
  250. [14:08:06] <BearKnife> it just means signed
  251. [14:08:09] <BearKnife> kind of like an X
  252. [14:09:37] <WalterWhite> BearKnife: smash?
  253. [14:10:04] <BearKnife> maybe for a little bit. I have to leave in an hour
  254. [14:10:10] <TheBurnWard> Yeah like with that one leak that happened a while back with the janitor names i'm really hesitant about it.
  255. [14:11:14] <BearKnife> granted this agreement is to prevent shit like that with laws and shit
  256. [14:11:27] <BearKnife> but it's still concerning
  257. [14:11:39] <BearKnife> Walt make the room
  258. [14:11:49] <FnFy> It's also to prevent stuff like people leaking chat logs and user information
  259. [14:13:09] <moots> the main thing is just to insulate the company from its volunteers and the volunteers from the company from a legal perspective
  260. [14:13:25] <moots> these types of agreements are common for that reason
  261. [14:14:10] <Inf> is there a particular reason it happened now and not ages ago?
  262. [14:14:18] <EconRaptor> That's also true, in a case something happens to the site, unless direct cause and or support lability is reduced for us.
  263. [14:14:34] <moots> because i finally got around to it
  264. [14:14:39] <Inf> haha
  265. [14:14:49] <Inf> nice hustle
  266. [14:15:11] <WalterWhite> zzz'"
  267. [14:16:01] <TheBurnWard> Even removing the chance of people inside spreading information, outside breakins are more my concern.
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  272. [14:19:03] <butterfingers> TheBurnWard: if moot encrypts his stuff locally, we'll be fine. not NSA-fine, but these people can read our emails, anyway, and that's enough to know who is 4chan staff and who isn't
  273. [14:20:36] <TheBurnWard> Yeah but for me theres a huge difference between having my email leaked and my full name and address leaked. Something that doesn't currently exist in any linked manner online.
  274. [14:21:03] <Inf> put the encrypted drive in a bank safe and we're cool
  275. [14:21:51] <BearKnife> fucking Jeff
  276. [14:22:09] <Troid> golden hammer couldn't save you
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  278. [14:22:40] <BearKnife> aww damnit I picked dorf again :|
  279. [14:26:01] <FnFy> >Please note that you will not be able to access the moderation tools until you have accepted/signed the agreement
  280. [14:26:05] <FnFy> But I can?
  281. [14:26:21] <Scrubadour> in seven days you won't be
  282. [14:26:24] <Scrubadour> able to i mean
  283. [14:26:33] <FnFy> That's not what it says
  284. [14:26:39] <Scrubadour> yeah i know
  285. [14:26:40] <FnFy> >Please note that you will not be able to access the moderation tools until you have accepted/signed the agreement, and your account will be terminated in 7 days if you fail to do so.
  286. [14:27:01] <moots> we haven't flipped that switch yet
  287. [14:27:07] <moots> but yeah you'll get locked out at some point
  288. [14:27:20] <moots> wanted to ensure there were no bugs/issues
  289. [14:27:23] <moots> which there don't appear to be
  290. [14:28:09] <FnFy> And what about people that are currently travelling/not around or with no internet?
  291. [14:28:29] <butterfingers> we were always supposed to tell if we were gone for longer than a week
  292. [14:29:12] <BearKnife> this item selection lol
  293. [14:29:46] <FnFy> Well yes, but if you check the /j/ thread there's one janitor with no internet access till february. I sure hope they won't be fired because they cannot check their email
  294. [14:30:19] <Troid> that was awful
  295. [14:30:23] <WalterWhite> lmao
  296. [14:30:24] <BearKnife> yeah
  297. [14:30:35] <BearKnife> the worst item selection on an FD stage.
  298. [14:30:46] <moots> anyone who leaves as a result of not signing would be welcomed back in the future
  299. [14:31:11] <BearKnife> oh fug we might have some retard stage because I have all stages on, hope that doesn't change anything
  300. [14:31:21] <Troid> shitty custom stages are the best
  301. [14:31:26] <Grubermeister> smash?
  302. [14:31:31] <WalterWhite> ya
  303. [14:31:32] <BearKnife> it's not customs, just regular stages
  304. [14:31:42] <Grubermeister> I think I only have aliens added
  305. [14:31:48] <Troid> well as long as you have great cave and kid icarus temple off
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  307. [14:33:01] <Grubermeister> What are your NNIDs?
  308. [14:34:50] <BearKnife> OTChainsaw
  309. [14:35:08] <BearKnife> RIP TOGEPI
  310. [14:35:11] <Kobayashi> moots, now that you'll soon have access to my wonderful Transylvanian vampire visage, I hereby formally request that we have coffee whenever I'm in North America.
  311. [14:35:27] <moots> i will be amenable to that
  312. [14:35:55] <Kobayashi> This contract is sealed. Do I need to sign it in blood?
  313. [14:36:01] <Troid> I liked the part where walter got the heart and I did all the damage back in 3 seconds
  314. [14:36:01] <WalterWhite> Grubermeister: Waiterwhite
  315. [14:36:15] <Troid> Grubermeister, mine's zTroid
  316. [14:37:02] <Arsarkinum> >tfw my Drivers license photo is probably one of the better pictures I've ever taken
  317. [14:37:05] <Arsarkinum> feels weird man
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  320. [14:37:31] <Kobayashi> I do have to wonder how many folks we'll lose over this.
  321. [14:38:02] <RapeApe> sort of sad that paragraph 2 doesn't include the phrase "for free"
  322. [14:38:05] <Grubermeister> Troid, WalterWhite  added
  323. [14:38:25] <Grubermeister> RapeApe,  Moot tried but the lawyers wouldn't let him
  324. [14:38:47] <BearKnife> whose fucking stage is this lol
  325. [14:43:22] <BearKnife> seriously what the fuck was that shit
  326. [14:43:22] <Troid> my friend made that
  327. [14:43:27] <Cephei_> Are you serious with the government id?
  328. [14:43:27] <BearKnife> your friend is a cuntr
  329. [14:43:28] <Troid> it's aptly titled "Competitive"
  330. [14:43:30] <Cephei_> Like
  331. [14:43:51] <moots> i sent out another email clarifying a few things
  332. [14:43:56] <Troid> that's not even the worst one I have. but I'll pick regular stages now
  333. [14:44:01] <Cephei_> I tend to take internet anonimity very seriously and that's a slap in the face of a supposed website that has similar interests
  334. [14:44:23] <WalterWhite> Grubermeister: ok sec
  335. [14:44:27] <Grubermeister> I've been working on remaking the Smash 64 stages as best as I can
  336. [14:44:32] <FnFy> Oh wait a sec >You are welcome to blur/block out any ID numbers, barcodes, etc.
  337. [14:44:33] <Cephei_> Unless I can blacken out information that I deem unnecessary for this process, I will no longer continue donating my time here. My IRL security has a higher priority than helping out with the moderation here
  338. [14:44:37] <Kobayashi> Read up the following email, Cephei_
  339. [14:44:39] <WalterWhite> Troid: wanna add grube?
  340. [14:44:39] <BearKnife> I like Smashketball
  341. [14:44:42] <Cephei_> Doing it in a sec
  342. [14:44:43] <Troid> oh yeah
  343. [14:44:43] <Kobayashi> it covers exactly that.
  344. [14:44:46] <FnFy> Does this also include street address?
  345. [14:44:48] <Troid> sc
  346. [14:44:49] <Troid> sec
  347. [14:45:28] <Cephei_> You have no way of proving I am the person I am willing to put down as government issued ID
  348. [14:45:31] <Cephei_> why do you ask in the first place
  349. [14:45:39] <Cephei_> I could just fabricate one
  350. [14:45:42] <Cephei_> Very easily so too
  351. [14:45:49] <moots> feel free to resign
  352. [14:45:53] <Cephei_> What's the point of this exercise again?
  353. [14:45:53] <moots> in fact, i insist
  354. [14:46:02] <BearKnife> it's OTChainsaw by the way sorry Gruber
  355. [14:46:16] <Cephei_> I'm thinking of doing that, I take seperating my internet life and real life very seriously. I'm still reading the email
  356. [14:46:18] <Grubermeister> I tried that earlier, but it said there is no NNID by that name
  357. [14:46:34] <BearKnife> OrangeChainsaw I mean D:
  358. [14:46:38] <BearKnife> I keep saying the wrong one
  359. [14:46:51] <Grubermeister> Cephei_, Only moot would have it, and it would be on his own personal HDD
  360. [14:46:57] <Cephei_> So?
  361. [14:47:05] <Cephei_> And if obama persnally asks me for my id
  362. [14:47:35] <Grubermeister> Well, moot has also been insisting that it has the least amount of personal info on it
  363. [14:47:36] <WalterWhite> Grubermeister: you playin?
  364. [14:47:48] <BearKnife> he's adding me I think
  365. [14:47:50] <Cephei_> What information is required specifically
  366. [14:47:55] <WalterWhite> ohkk
  367. [14:47:57] <Grubermeister> I could play a few rounds, yeah, gonna watch some Jojo with a friend in a bit though
  368. [14:48:03] <Troid> I'm hosting if you wanna join, Grubermeister
  369. [14:48:17] <Cephei_> Is this some kind of US law thing, explain to my why this is necessary
  370. [14:48:24] <FnFy> moots, just to clarify, does the ID we submit have to contain anything else besides our name and our face? For example my country's ID contains job, street address, and such. Am I free to blur them out?
  371. [14:48:36] <Kobayashi> >JOB
  372. [14:48:38] <Kobayashi> >in the ID
  373. [14:48:41] <FnFy> yeah
  374. [14:48:43] <Kobayashi> woah, Italy, what the hell
  375. [14:48:44] <Grubermeister> Cephei_, it just needs to be government issued, its so that we can be held accountable if we leak info if I'm not mistaken
  376. [14:48:45] <FnFy> such is life in italy
  377. [14:48:58] <EconRaptor> I'm as tin foil as they get, but I stated earlier, last time I went out for a beer, I gave a lot more info out with less safety than what Moot has asked, it's your call and all I'm just bringing that up.    
  378. [14:48:59] <Grubermeister> You can also PM moot for more info, he asked us to earlier
  379. [14:48:59] <FnFy> It also has written my hair and eye color
  380. [14:49:00] <BearKnife> Gruber what's your NNID? I'll send it to you instead
  381. [14:49:10] <Grubermeister> should be manotaur
  382. [14:49:18] <Troid> you can send friend requests to each other on the results screen if you just join my game
  383. [14:49:24] <WalterWhite> yea
  384. [14:49:45] <Troid> after a match you press X (I think), view miiverse profile, send request
  385. [14:50:00] <BearKnife> oh mother fuck
  386. [14:50:11] <BearKnife> apparently even though smash is opened, it closed it to open it back up to play
  387. [14:50:12] <BearKnife> lol
  388. [14:50:24] <WalterWhite> :O
  389. [14:50:24] <Troid> >nintendo in charge of suspended software
  390. [14:50:38] <WalterWhite> yeah that happens if you go to settings menu on the wiiu
  391. [14:50:38] <BearKnife> no, I selected play together from the friendlist
  392. [14:50:40] <WalterWhite> so weird
  393. [14:50:56] <Troid> oh yeah it'll do that
  394. [14:51:02] <Troid> reboots smash to join their game
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