- (00:08:57) +scrubadour: what i don't understand
- (00:09:09) +scrubadour: is why these posters don't just post their obviously huge collection of elf porn to /e/
- (00:09:23) +scrubadour: or their lamias drinking cum to /d/
- (00:09:45) +scrubadour: god knows they have enough images to make a thread
- (00:10:12) %RapeApe: 'all my friends are here'
- (00:10:22) +scrubadour: it's not even western-style art, it's obviously anime stuff
- (00:10:27) %RapeApe: it's the excuse everyone uses to post off-topic crap
- (00:10:48) %RapeApe: they think *these* anonymous posters are special, and *those* anonymous posters are completely different
- What they are to some extend. Board culture, customs and moderation do shape board and giving them different character.
- Does that excuse posting garbage? frankly, no.
- (02:30:52) +scrubadour: mods have it even worse, they deal with the complaining, all of OUR mistakes, more than a few boards (which they have to be familiar with), and generally things we can't deal with
- (02:31:41) +Spitch: I sympathize with them, the Fallout Wiki is definitely not on their scale, but I've put up with quite a bit over there.
- (02:31:57) +scrubadour: moot has it worst of all, since he needs to run the whole shebang AND pay for it, with a toxic userbase that hates him and remembers every single slight
- (02:32:55) +scrubadour: at the end of the day, all of 4chan literally runs on sunshine and rainbows, because 10 years for a purely volunteer organization where nobody gets paid is a monumental achievement
- (10:19:13) +errorname457: oi
- (10:19:28) +errorname457: what's the protocol when dealing with insane people
- (10:19:30) +errorname457: https://boards.4chan.org/v/res/181343149
- (10:20:01) +errorname457: I was thinking of BRing it for inciting a raid, but seems like he's got bigger problems
- (10:20:08) +errorname457: maybe it would be good to just delete it?
- (10:24:27) +AoC: Just delete them so it doesn't trigger them against us
- (10:24:42) +AoC: if pattern continues, issue BR over raid call
- (13:11:07) +Deckenkatze: gif of a dog getting mutilated is global 1 or 3?
- (13:11:32) @ALTERNATIVE: a picture of it doesnt violate us law
- (13:11:54) +Deckenkatze: k i thought rapeape had said that crush gifs et al were global 1s
- (13:12:01) @ALTERNATIVE: if they were the person who did it it would be illegal
- (13:12:25) @ALTERNATIVE: it does say discuss so I can see how you can apply it to that
- (13:12:45) @ALTERNATIVE: but I would lean towards 3 in most cases
- (13:12:50) +Deckenkatze: aight den
- (13:13:23) @ALTERNATIVE: we can always increase the ban length to account for the added horribleness
- (13:15:17) %RapeApe: ALTERNATIVE, animal crush images are illegal
- (13:15:20) %RapeApe: there is a special law
- (13:15:54) %RapeApe: pictures of aan animal is being crushed to death for sexual pleasure is strictly illegal in the united states
- (13:16:36) @ALTERNATIVE: it really specifies that we need to know the photographer's level of arousal?
- (13:16:42) @ALTERNATIVE: or does it only become illegal when the viewer is aroused
- (13:16:46) %RapeApe: http://blog.aspca.org/content/victory-president-signs-new-crush-act-law
- (13:17:05) @ALTERNATIVE: oh the high heels ones
- (13:17:17) @ALTERNATIVE: it's really that specific?
- (13:17:37) %RapeApe: yes, it's that specific
- (13:17:38) @ALTERNATIVE: I was speaking on a general level, can you photograph a burning cat?
- (13:18:02) %RapeApe: distributing animal abuse photos, other than animal crush, is legal as far as i am aware
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- (13:19:54) @ALTERNATIVE: Definition- In this section the term ‘animal crush video’ means any photograph, motion-picture film, video or digital recording, or electronic image that--
- (13:19:58) %RapeApe: i just want to make sure moot doesn't get in shit for illegal content on his website
- (13:20:16) +McNuggets: The old law was struck down because it didn't specify interstate commerce or foreign distribution and, thus, infringed on State's rights by overstepping Federal bounds. The new law is specifically for interstate/foreign distribution and that includes the internet.
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- (13:23:10) +Spitch: What are you guys talkinb about? I can't see the rest of the conversation
- (13:23:20) +McNuggets: "the intentional crushing, burning, drowning, suffocating, or impaling of animals for no socially redeeming purpose."
- (13:23:41) @ALTERNATIVE: he asked if an animal mutilation photo fell under a ban request for global rule 1 or 3
- (13:23:43) +McNuggets: This law, Splitch http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr5566/text
- (13:24:10) +McNuggets: Spitch ... sorry ... whiskey day
- (13:24:30) +Spitch: I would say so
- (13:24:34) +Spitch: Happy St pats day
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- (13:34:11) +AoC: I just BR as illegal all animal abuse since mods like to give customs for those
- (13:34:18) +AoC: including zippo cat, shovel dog
- (13:34:20) +AoC: and so on
- (13:35:15) +McNuggets: Yup. HR 5566 covers zippo cat and shovel dog.
- (13:36:07) +McNuggets: The lawyer voice in me would argue that exposing animal cruelty for the purposes of social justice would be defensable, but I can see 4channers seriously abusing that privilege.
- (13:38:40) %RapeApe: they have exposed those who have committed animal cruelty before
- (13:39:07) +AoC: woman throwing cats into garbage bin comes to mind
- (13:39:38) +AoC: but they're the exception rather than the norm. I've been seeing the same man defecating over a restrained baby too many times over the years
- (13:40:21) +Spitch: I doubt anyone posts that shit for the exposition lol
- (13:41:02) +AoC: they still do sometimes. That gang of smiling guys holding a beheaded cat started as a raid call
- (13:41:27) +McNuggets: True, and the Dusty thing was also pretty nice. But I can see the potential for some serious abuse if the loophole is allowed. It's best not to give the mouse a cookie. 4chan is not a court of law.
- (13:41:40) +AoC: unfortunately it just becomes shock ammo for driving away newfags and spamming whatever they dislike
- (13:42:08) %RapeApe: do they not understand that newfags come here specifically for shock images?
- (13:42:25) +Spitch: Case and point, "Hey I'm new to /b/, can I have a shock/gore thread?"
- (13:42:40) +AoC: "hey guys, I'm showing my friends this site, post gore"
- (13:42:46) +McNuggets: Ah, yes ... the "4chan is neo-Ogrish.com" mentality.
- (13:43:34) +AoC: I seriously had to contain a spam wave yesterday over "nubs/GET a day keeps the newfags away" while they were derailing a perfectly good Dark Souls thread
- (13:43:53) +AoC: And that's why user moderation never works.
- (13:44:00) +BluRay: terrible
- (13:44:29) +McNuggets: I'd say that putting the nuts in charge of the nuthouse is insane, but then I remember that someone actually allowed me to be a Janitor.
- (13:46:24) +McNuggets: Honestly I can't believe there are people out there who seriously want us to go with an up/down vote system.
- (13:47:40) +Spitch: They're just people coming from reddit who can't stand to see a different system.
- (13:48:08) +Spitch: Moot described it perfectly, "A waterfall of content." it's good.
- (13:48:21) +McNuggets: Change is an odd thing to fear.
- (13:48:53) +AoC: the reddit system allows for bubbles of content and promoting only circlejerks. It's never used for promoting better content, just as a "I agree with this guy" button
- (13:49:08) +AoC: dissent dies in the hidden pages
- (20:07:01) ~moots: AoC: are you around
- (20:07:43) +Spitch: Hey Moot
- (20:08:01) +Spitch: I just got in, so I don't know where he is
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- (20:09:16) ~moots: i asked him if he was around, not you
- (20:09:37) ~moots: who are the other a/jp janitors
- (20:10:43) +Spitch: Sorry.
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- (20:12:25) +Sange: me azatsu and mcnuggets moots
- (20:12:35) +Sange: in /jp/'s case
- (20:14:26) +andonuts: fsdfdsf, VCR, Nouz, Azatsu and myself are on /a/.
- (20:20:03) +AoC: hey moot
- (20:20:16) ~moots: you're fired
- (20:20:38) +AoC: oh well. See you some other day then
- (20:20:39) ~moots: pranked
- (20:20:43) ~moots: for once, i'm kidding!
- (20:20:54) ~moots: i require your sagely wisdom
- (20:20:57) +Anikitan: in before double trolled and he actually is fired
- (20:21:05) +AoC: oh you
- (20:21:07) ~moots: i wouldn't put that past me
- (20:21:17) +nemo`: inb4 moot fires himself by accident
- (20:21:26) ~moots: i also wouldn't put that past me
- (20:32:01) +Anikitan: theres been a ton of MGS threads on /v/ lately
- (20:32:05) +Anikitan: im not complaining :3
- Is that the moment where MSG's popularity began to rise?
- (22:27:22) +duanemoody: is there a board where 'reddit' is filtered or autobanned or can someone please tell the boards this isn't a thing
- (22:28:03) +AoC: the reddit block is global as far as I know
- (22:28:16) +duanemoody: they can't spell out the letters or they can't post a link
- (22:28:23) +AoC: both
- (22:28:35) +AoC: no reddit, no reddit.com, no red.it
- (22:28:48) +duanemoody: was this a higher priority than other wordfilters
- (22:28:51) +duanemoody: seriously
- (22:28:58) LingeringParticles: you don't get a ban for it, though
- (22:29:05) LingeringParticles: last i checked
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- (22:29:31) +Deckenkatze: reddit is a global ban and kotaku is a /v/ ban iirc
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