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  1. [18:20:51] <Kite-kun> Sometimes I'm willing to pull out Major Complications to keep things going
  2. [18:21:00] <Kite-kun> ... no wonder no one wants me as a GM...
  3. [18:21:06] <Kite-kun> Indecisive, jerkwad...
  4. [18:21:06] <Latooni> kite are you implying that you have ever GMed a game of adeva
  5. [18:21:07] <Malachi_Ortega> it wasn't quite that straightforward, and we decided the talent was e-scale rather than p-scale
  6. [18:21:11] <Kite-kun> ...
  7. [18:21:16] <Kite-kun> I tried to get players but
  8. [18:21:16] <Malachi_Ortega> so was applied to the evangelion rather than the pilot
  9. [18:21:20] <Kite-kun> Ouch...
  10. [18:21:23] <Kite-kun> No recruits
  11. [18:21:27] <Kite-kun> Just a ton of eggs
  12. [18:21:30] <Kite-kun> and smelly meat
  13. [18:22:17] <ChillyWilly> You should recruit again sometime. I'm not desperate for a game, of course not...
  14. [18:22:22] <Malachi_Ortega> what the fuck are you talking about kite
  15. [18:22:31] <Kite-kun> ... tried to recruite players for AdEva
  16. [18:22:34] <Kite-kun> and got nothing but scorn
  17. [18:22:41] <Latooni> that's awful
  18. [18:22:46] <Latooni> why would someone treat you like that?
  19. [18:22:55] <Kite-kun> Apparnetly they saw my notes
  20. [18:23:42] <Kite-kun> Apparently they don't approve of SEELE's desiction to accelerate their plans and start Third Impact without the players getting a chance to disrupt it
  21. [18:23:50] <Malachi_Ortega> fags
  22. [18:24:08] <Latooni> well you're not supposed to tell them you're railroading them
  23. [18:24:25] <Kite-kun> and for a different system, they also don't like the plan I had for the BBEG to have the last laugh and have the Empire beat the Rebellion even if the BBEG dies
  24. [18:24:33] <Kite-kun> Both earn me scorn
  25. [18:24:41] <Latooni> is it an Empire of Shadows
  26. [18:24:59] <Malachi_Ortega> kite you are already a better gm than I because you actually had notes
  27. [18:25:00] <Kite-kun> Just the Imperials beating the Rebellion
  28. [18:25:17] <Kite-kun> Yea but they don't seem to like me giving out bleak endings no matter the player's actions
  29. [18:25:21] <Malachi_Ortega> I had shit I scribbled down during class the afternoon before I had to run a fight, sometimes
  30. [18:26:18] <Kirika_Yamashiro> Having the same ending no matter what the players do is kind of... well, what's the point?
  31. [18:26:31] <Kirika_Yamashiro> I can see how they'd not want to bother.
  32. [18:26:32] <Malachi_Ortega> evangelion
  33. [18:26:38] <Kite-kun> Well
  34. [18:26:41] <Malachi_Ortega> it's in-theme
  35. [18:26:42] <Latooni> it's not optimal but as long as they don't know that they don't actually affect the plot
  36. [18:26:44] <Kite-kun> Third Impact is something you can't escape from
  37. [18:26:49] <Latooni> you can keep the illusion that they affect it
  38. [18:26:58] <Kite-kun> The hows of getting there they could avoid but
  39. [18:27:02] <Kite-kun> Third Impact will still be there
  40. [18:27:25] * BMJ looks at his notes for RT, which are just a giant Question-esq conspiracy flowchart that traces back to Seelie every time
  41. [18:28:29] <BMJ> It was going to be Alberts dad pulling all the strings. Then Albert died.
  42. [18:28:35] <BMJ> so that plotline sort of fell apart
  43. [18:28:40] <Kite-kun> Yea
  44. [18:28:44] <Kite-kun> Complications happen but...
  45. [18:28:51] <Kite-kun> I still feel down because when I recruit, they get into my notes
  46. [18:28:57] <Kite-kun> and then they scoff at me
  47. [18:28:57] <Scraggiel> he ejected upon impact is working for me too
  48. [18:29:05] <Kite-kun> Giving them a Bleak ending isn't their style apparently
  49. [18:29:06] <BMJ> how do they keep getting your notes?
  50. [18:29:13] <Kite-kun> I carry my stuff in a backpack
  51. [18:29:16] <Kite-kun> In a folder
  52. [18:29:20] <BMJ> and they look?
  53. [18:29:23] <Kite-kun> Yea
  54. [18:29:25] <Kirika_Yamashiro> Well, you should have the player's actions, possibly actually matter instead.
  55. [18:29:35] <Locomotive_Breath> So they just rifled through your stuff?
  56. [18:29:37] <Kite-kun> Yes
  57. [18:29:39] <Locomotive_Breath> That's, kinda rude.
  58. [18:29:48] <Kirika_Yamashiro> Also hide your notes better.
  59. [18:29:54] <BMJ> dude
  60. [18:29:56] <BMJ> explot this
  61. [18:30:01] <BMJ> deploy FAKE NOTES
  62. [18:30:03] <Kite-kun> Pff, what's the use
  63. [18:30:09] <Kite-kun> They scoff at me after seeing htem
  64. [18:30:23] <Kite-kun> What does fake notes have to help me out
  65. [18:30:26] <OfficerCr> kill
  66. [18:30:28] <OfficerCr> KILL
  67. [18:30:46] <Kite-kun> Seriously
  68. [18:30:49] <Locomotive_Breath> But yeah, I do kinda agree, I mean, it's fine for them to lose in the end, but I think it's kinda important for them to at least be able to influence how they lose.
  69. [18:30:58] <Locomotive_Breath> Killing them is a fine alternative though.
  70. [18:31:13] <Kite-kun> It doesn't change the fact that well
  71. [18:31:16] <Kite-kun> Fake notes or not
  72. [18:31:19] <Kite-kun> They'll still scoff at me
  73. [18:32:32] <Kite-kun> Seriously
  74. [18:32:37] <Kite-kun> I give them the Pitch page
  75. [18:32:41] <Latooni> I try to imagine ways players will fuck up my general plans and make loose contingency ideas
  76. [18:32:41] <Kite-kun> Someone else gets into my notes
  77. [18:32:50] <Kite-kun> and then they all say no
  78. [18:32:53] <Kite-kun> The moment someone relays the notes
  79. [18:32:56] <Latooni> it requires making at least 3 times as much story but usually a lot of it's recycleable
  80. [18:33:03] <Kite-kun> Like I don't get the chance to defend
  81. [18:33:35] <Kite-kun> Like
  82. [18:33:39] <Kite-kun> Someone relays my notes and plans
  83. [18:33:42] <Kite-kun> and they all scoff at me
  84. [18:35:14] <Kite-kun> So I don't get the chance to make my case
  85. [18:35:18] <Kite-kun> and they all deny me...
  86. [18:35:42] <Malachi_Ortega> why didnt you just rerecruit with non-buttfaggots
  87. [18:36:03] <Kite-kun> Because I'm afraid they'll spread my reputation for bleak games around
  88. [18:36:05] <Kite-kun> and I get noone
  89. [18:37:37] <Kite-kun> I feel so defenceless
  90. [18:37:50] <Kite-kun> Even if I could exploit their tendency to screw me up well
  91. [18:37:51] <OfficerCr> are you GM or a mouse?!
  92. [18:37:57] <OfficerCr> GET MAD
  93. [18:37:59] <OfficerCr> GET DEVIOUS
  94. [18:38:00] <Kite-kun> ... sadly I'm just a spineless coward...
  95. [18:38:06] <Kite-kun> No matter how good my deception is
  96. [18:38:10] <Kite-kun> ...
  97. [18:38:12] <OfficerCr> Start predictably and then turn everything they know on it's head!
  98. [18:38:17] <OfficerCr> Take away what they take for granted!
  99. [18:38:22] <OfficerCr> DESTROY THAT WHICH THEY LOVE!
  100. [18:38:35] <Latooni> Katawa Yandere - Rin Route (Part 6) Akira !!UjNzln6KLxU 05/05/12(Sat)21:35 No.18993195   [Reply]
  101. [18:38:36] <Iruel>   [reply]
  102. [18:38:41] <Locomotive_Breath> Make them play a game of Evangelion where there are not Angels!
  103. [18:38:42] <Latooni> and quest thread quality continues to drop
  104. [18:38:46] <Kite-kun> ...
  105. [18:39:01] <Kite-kun> So what, take advantage of the "Other Opponents" section?
  106. [18:39:03] <Locomotive_Breath> Just spending some time as teenagers
  107. [18:39:13] <Kite-kun> T-RIDEN-Ts, MP EVAs, Jet Alones and such
  108. [18:39:18] <Geremy-Tibbles> Jet Together
  109. [18:39:18] <Kite-kun> ... too bad there's not much on that end
  110. [...]
  111. [18:49:35] <BMJ> "How to run games" is half of Adeva at this point
  112. [18:50:13] <Kite-kun> Yea...
  113. [18:50:16] <Kite-kun> But...
  114. [18:50:17] <BMJ> "Working with ODs" "Here, have these global conspiracy ideas!" "Scenerios everywhere!" "9 THIRD IMPACTS"
  115. [18:50:24] <Kite-kun> It's hard for me to stay comforting...
  116. [18:50:42] <BMJ> oh, BTW
  117. [18:50:43] <Kite-kun> Sorry if I'm bringing up a sob story on how potential players just scoff at me for my notes
  118. [18:50:55] <BMJ> you keep using that word
  119. [18:50:57] <BMJ> "scoff"
  120. [18:51:08] <Kite-kun> But when two games never get started beyond the Pitch point when someone got into my notes...
  121. [18:51:09] <Kite-kun> Yea
  122. [18:51:14] <Kite-kun> I fear that it'd get worse
  123. [18:51:38] <Kite-kun> Apparently they expect more well... happier endings not bleak ones
  124. [18:51:44] <Kite-kun> or endings where they feel helpless
  125. [18:51:50] <Kasuga_Yoshiko> so why are you letting people get into your notes?
  126. [18:51:57] <BMJ> then write a happier ending in your notes
  127. [18:52:02] <BMJ> even if you know it is a lie
  128. [18:52:08] <BMJ> and change it at the last session
  129. [18:52:11] <Kite-kun> I don't but...
  130. [18:52:17] <Kite-kun> I feel like it's futile
  131. [18:52:22] <Kite-kun> I always fear someone gets into my notes
  132. [18:52:25] <Kite-kun> and they screw me up
  133. [...]
  134. [18:53:35] <Mr_Rage> Like
  135. [18:53:41] <Latooni> ultramarines have a hilarious amount of spinoff chapters
  136. [18:53:46] <Mr_Rage> I realize that, as a GM who has never kept even a Notepad worth of notes
  137. [18:53:51] <Mr_Rage> I might not understand your position
  138. [18:53:55] <Mr_Rage> But this fucking mystifies me
  139. [18:54:02] <Mr_Rage> Lat: They do
  140. [18:54:06] <Kite-kun> What, how my potential recruits break into my notes
  141. [18:54:08] <OfficerCr> Just improvise everything from this point on.
  142. [18:54:12] <Kite-kun> and pretty much shoot down my pitch?
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