DF Game Club: Maniac Mansion (part 2)

(07:03:59) Sven_Q45: At  least he was a guest in our Adventure-Treff interview forum just like Gary. :)
(07:04:07) Cheeseness: :)
(07:04:27) Cheeseness: Have people been following the Thimbleweed park campaign?
(07:04:37) Sven_Q45: If you want: http://www.adventure-treff.de/forum/viewforum.php?f=48
(07:04:45) Sven_Q45: I backed last week!!
(07:04:48) Permafry_42: I backed it; can't wait to see what they do with it =D
(07:04:58) Syd: I've backed it as well
(07:05:05) Sven_Q45: I wanted too but the money is a little problem this time...
(07:05:21) Sven_Q45: But I did with $350.
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(07:06:08) Cheeseness: Neat
(07:06:14) Permafry_42: Alrighty I'll be starting up the stream now. Hopefully during the stream Ron will be able to join us
(07:06:22) Fireflower: Would Adventure-Treff like to write something about FireFlower Games? :)
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(07:06:44) Permafry_42: please let me know when you see the logo
(07:06:51) Syd: It's live
(07:07:05) Sven_Q45: Fireflower I don´t know.
(07:07:05) Permafry_42: k
(07:07:07) Sven_Q45: :)
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(07:07:40) Cheeseness: Hey Fhqwhgod
(07:07:43) Fhqwhgod: phew. Almost missed this
(07:07:47) VoodooLord: yaay
(07:07:53) flesk: Yeah, I backed Thimbleweed Park. Only at the $50 tier though.
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(07:08:23) Sven_Q45: It must be a big box at least. ;)
(07:08:38) Cheeseness: Hi meatload
(07:08:44) meatload: hi
(07:08:58) Cheeseness: Did everybody play some Maniac Mansion between last week and now?
(07:09:09) Sven_Q45: No.
(07:09:17) Cheeseness: Tsk tsk
(07:09:21) Fhqwhgod: I haven't. Finished it years ago though
(07:09:33) flesk: Haven't played MM in at least 5 years. :/
(07:09:40) Fireflower: don't think i've finished it actually...
(07:10:00) Cheeseness: I just heard back from Ron who sends his apologies
(07:10:03) Cheeseness: And also "Thanks for asking, microwave a hamster for me."
(07:10:12) Sven_Q45: I played the beta of the 3d remake. But a few months ago the last time. :)
(07:10:30) VoodooLord: ah too bad
(07:10:49) Cheeseness: Sounds like he's pretty busy
(07:10:59) Cheeseness: Sven_Q45: How was it?
(07:11:20) flesk: Speaking of microwaves and hamsters. I just remembered that I'm friends with David B. Fox on Steam.
(07:11:35) Sven_Q45: @Cheese Hehe I like it cuz I alpha/beta test it. ;) :)
(07:11:44) Cheeseness: Oh, yeah. Feel free to invite him, flesk
(07:11:53) Sven_Q45: flesk Nice!
(07:11:55) Cheeseness: I had meant to, but I didn't get around to it :(
(07:12:05) flesk: Cheeseness: I don't think he's been online in several months.
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(07:12:18) Cheeseness: Hi OzzieMonkey
(07:12:40) OzzieMonkey: hello :)
(07:12:57) Cheeseness: flesk: There's a retweet from him in the last hour
(07:13:01) Sven_Q45: Hi.
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(07:13:39) OzzieMonkey: I don't think I've ever finished the game using Wendy, this should be interesting,,,
(07:13:49) flesk: Cheeseness: I meant on Steam. He hasn't been online there for a while. He sent me a friend request after I gave feedback on his game there.
(07:13:53) Fireflower: how many hours of gameplay is it?
(07:14:01) Cheeseness: flesk: Oh, sorry. I totally misread that >_<
(07:14:15) Fireflower: who's David B Fox btw?
(07:14:36) meatload: a man who doesn't like hamsters
(07:14:38) flesk: Fireflower: Designer of Zak McKracken.
(07:14:41) Sven_Q45: I know someone who is playing Maniac Mansion with Razor and Jeff at the moment. :D
(07:14:42) Fireflower: ah
(07:14:44) Cheeseness: Fireflower: It's a bit like The Cave in that you can take a selection  of a broader cast of characters, so there's more game in there if you want to explore multiple party configurations
(07:15:03) Fireflower: i see
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(07:15:04) Cheeseness: Fireflower: He also did a bit of work on Maniac Mansion
(07:15:27) meatload: hamster related work
(07:15:28) flesk: And according to a TP update he came up with the idea of putting the hamster in the microwave.
(07:15:39) flesk: He did scripting on MM.
(07:15:42) Cheeseness: Yeah
(07:15:55) Fireflower: think i prefer Zak over Maniac
(07:16:07) flesk: I'm very fond of Zak McKracken.
(07:16:19) flesk: I really hope that's one of the games to get a re-release on GOG.
(07:16:37) Cheeseness: :)
(07:16:38) flesk: I had it on the Amiga years ago.
(07:16:46) Fireflower: if they can find the files...
(07:16:48) Cheeseness: Zak McKracken came out after Maniac Mansion, right?
(07:16:53) flesk: I don't have the Amiga or any of the Amiga games anymore though. :(
(07:16:57) meatload: right
(07:17:11) Cheeseness: flesk: Aww :(
(07:17:44) Fireflower: where did you get this version?
(07:18:20) Cheeseness: Fireflower: I'm not certain how Permafry got this version, but I don't believe it's sold anywhere anymore
(07:18:31) Fireflower: ok
(07:18:54) Cheeseness: (though it might show up on GOG in the future maybe, since they've got a deal with Disney and are running through the LucasArts back catalogue)
(07:19:06) Fireflower: i know
(07:19:19) Fireflower: wish i had a deal with Disney...
(07:19:29) Sven_Q45: Or go to ebay and buy it there. :D
(07:19:50) meatload: maniac mansion will be released "soon" as it is part of day of the tentacle
(07:19:59) flesk: Do you have any exclusives, Fireflower?
(07:20:01) Syd: I know this particular version is the 1989 re-release, usually called Maniac Mansion v2. You might be able to hunt down a copy online.
(07:20:04) Fhqwhgod: I must have misplaced my "hundreds of dollars" so ebay is a no go
(07:20:22) Sven_Q45: The directors cut of Zak Between time and space with english voice is in the works. Hope we can play it here then. :)
(07:20:24) Fireflower: flesk: some, but no major titles, just small indie games
(07:20:26) Cheeseness: I like tyhat Cousin Ted appears to be wearing the same glasses as Bernard
(07:21:18) Fireflower: i have some exclusive DRM-free titles
(07:21:19) Cheeseness: Ha ha, or maybe I was remembering Bernard's glasses wrong ^_^
(07:21:23) Syd: I kind of wonder if Maniac Mansion will still be playable in DOTT SE. I don't see why it'd have to be removed, but something could get in the way of it being included.
(07:21:34) Cheeseness: I really hope that it is
(07:21:42) Sven_Q45: tyhat? thy hat? :D Sorry Cheese. I know what you meant. ;) :D
(07:21:57) meatload: it would be cool if they would include this version also
(07:22:07) Permafry_42: oops lol
(07:22:30) Cheeseness: That ladder climbing animation
(07:22:40) Sven_Q45: Syd With todays technics I don´t think it would be a problem to include MM in the SE.
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(07:22:46) OzzieMonkey: it would be awesome if this was included with DOTT SE, but then Disney may count it as a seperate game
(07:22:56) OzzieMonkey: wouldn't be apposed to a DLC of it though
(07:23:07) Cheeseness: Sven_Q45: It depends on how much work they're doing and what's involved with that
(07:23:14) Fhqwhgod: 5$ or pre order DLC incoming
(07:23:25) Cheeseness: Plus like OzzieMonkey says, it may come down to legal arrangements
(07:23:50) OzzieMonkey: it would be great to see this game as a talkie
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(07:23:57) Fireflower: yeah
(07:24:01) Cheeseness: Maniac Mansion/
(07:24:21) Fireflower: some music would be nice too
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(07:24:30) Sven_Q45: shame there was no FM-Towns version.
(07:24:34) Gurok: Hey Babar
(07:24:38) Cheeseness: Hi Gurok
(07:24:41) Babar: hey Gu
(07:24:42) OzzieMonkey: yeah, I always found it strange that this game was missing any kind of a soundtrack
(07:24:45) Babar: I lied, actually, Gurok
(07:24:46) Fireflower: Hey Babar
(07:24:52) Babar: there's no Grumpygamer this week :O
(07:24:52) OzzieMonkey: I know the NES version had themes for the kids
(07:24:53) Babar: hey FF!
(07:24:56) Babar: thanks for the free game :D
(07:25:19) Fireflower: no problem, Babar :)
(07:25:30) Sven_Q45: Yes the MM from LucasFan had music.
(07:25:36) Syd: The NES version had a lot of technological improvements over the other versions, but it was also censored. You win some, you lose some. :P
(07:25:49) OzzieMonkey: I just checked the kickstarter page for Thimbleweed park, it's so close to getting the talkie stretch goal, reckon they'll make it?
(07:26:01) Syd: I'm sure it will
(07:26:03) Sven_Q45: I don´t like censoring!
(07:26:04) Permafry_42: pay attention to the easter eggs
(07:26:05) Babar: what were the technological improvements?
(07:26:29) Cheeseness: Gurok: I got an email earlier from Ron saying that he couldn't make it and asking if we could microwave a hamster for him (which it looks like Permafry is going to do ^_^
(07:27:31) VoodooLord: well canonically speaking the hamster lives, so no worries there
(07:27:34) Sven_Q45: Permafry_42 It´s possible to get ALL items while Ed is out! ;)
(07:27:51) Permafry_42: already did; showing easter eggs
(07:27:53) Syd: I think the biggest technical improvement with the NES version was that it ran faster.
(07:28:09) Cheeseness: That chart is a re-creation of one of Ron's design documents IIRC
(07:28:31) Babar: is that really an improvement for this game, Syd? :D
(07:28:47) meatload: nes version ran faster but some rooms were made smaller
(07:29:23) Syd: I imagine that this game probably ran a bit more sluggishly on most computers at the time than it runs on a modern machine with ScummVM
(07:29:48) Syd: Drawing in the graphics for new rooms, scrolling graphics, etc.
(07:30:11) OzzieMonkey: hahaha, what was that? I don't think I've ever seen that through the telescope before!
(07:30:23) asz: me neither
(07:30:23) asz: :)
(07:31:02) meatload: it was reference to rescue on fractalus
(07:31:10) Sven_Q45: Yes this easteregg with the telescope. :)
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(07:33:08) Cheeseness: Taking into account its vintage, the amount of detail in the house is pretty cool
(07:33:14) OzzieMonkey: I really wish more adventure games had you play as multiple characters, it really enhances the puzzle solving, it's why DOTT is one of my favourites of the genre
(07:33:24) Permafry_42: dead hamster incoming. those who are sqeemish may look away now
(07:33:29) Babar: :D
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(07:34:04) Sir_Burpalot: Oh noes.
(07:34:10) meatload: bernard won't do it
(07:34:25) Cheeseness: heh
(07:34:32) Permafry_42: i forget which characters can
(07:34:33) Sir_Burpalot: The tension is almost palpable, isn't it?
(07:35:03) meatload: razor and syd at least
(07:35:39) asz: have to leave, nice reading you
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(07:35:58) Cheeseness: According to the Thimbleweed Park update that flesk mentioned earlier, Davd said that microwaving the hamster was "comedy gold"
(07:36:10) Syd: One of them has to be heartless enough to blow up a hamster in a microwave
(07:36:28) Permafry_42: if not i'll use a ne save file next week
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(07:36:51) OzzieMonkey: there needs to be at least one animal sacrifice in Thimbleweed Park
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(07:36:54) Fhqwhgod: Syd & Razor will put the hamster in
(07:37:11) Syd: I liked DOTT's nod to the hamster in a microwave thing.
(07:37:19) OzzieMonkey: ....I may have sounded very twisted to anyone not familiar with this game
(07:37:26) Fireflower: Syd, put the hamster in :)
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(07:38:40) Syd: Aww, they all refuse to
(07:38:40) Permafry_42: we'll have to wait til next week unfortunately for the hamster murder
(07:38:50) Cheeseness: The power
(07:38:56) Permafry_42: i promise i will kill that hamster though
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(07:38:57) Fhqwhgod: wrong set of characters
(07:38:57) Cheeseness: s out but the light is still on
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(07:39:47) Sven_Q45: How long will this go tonight? I have to quit internet and not want to do it while the stream is on.
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(07:40:02) VoodooLord: so in a shocking twist of events
(07:40:04) VoodooLord: the hamster lives
(07:40:08) Fhqwhgod: I guess 20 more minutes
(07:40:12) Cheeseness: Woo, go Hamster!
(07:40:22) Syd: Perma will make a special save for next week dedicated to hamster destruction.
(07:40:29) Fhqwhgod: Hamster you may live. For now.
(07:40:52) VoodooLord: you must do it, for Ron
(07:40:58) Fireflower: The hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning
(07:41:28) Sven_Q45: hehe :D
(07:41:33) Fhqwhgod: Hamed would kill every hamster no problem
(07:41:39) Fireflower: :)
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(07:43:00) meatload: i dare you to push the red button
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(07:43:23) Sven_Q45: Please PUSH the red button. :D
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(07:43:41) Fhqwhgod: stupid Firefox
(07:44:07) Sven_Q45: Yeah? I´ve problems with Chrome today. :D
(07:44:21) meatload: hmph he didn't push the button
(07:44:45) Permafry_42: time to kill a dear friend instead
(07:44:51) Fireflower: have to go. cya
(07:45:16) Cheeseness: Cheers Fireflower
(07:45:19) Cheeseness: Have a good one
(07:45:24) Sven_Q45: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBD4F-Oxt8U :D
(07:45:24) meatload: did he fix the wires by the way?
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(07:45:33) Syd: That nuclear reactor in the pool makes an appearance in The Cave
(07:46:00) Permafry_42: just to let off steam for not having killed the hamster
(07:46:02) Sven_Q45: Cheeseness did say good bye BEFORE someone left. :D
(07:46:15) Permafry_42: might as well also see the house blowing up too
(07:46:22) Cheeseness: Sven_Q45: Shh, you saw nothing
(07:46:47) Permafry_42: the fail states in this game can be very fun to watch
(07:47:53) Cheeseness: Permafry_42: Do you have a favourite?
(07:48:06) Permafry_42: pushing the red button is a highlight
(07:48:19) meatload: it sure does take while for the house to blow up
(07:48:56) Sven_Q45: Also funny: Purple gets you but doesn´t turn on the power. :D
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(07:50:35) Cheeseness: Oh neat, a torch
(07:51:19) Sven_Q45: a torch? Where?
(07:51:35) Fhqwhgod: torch = flashlight
(07:51:41) Fhqwhgod: stupid americans
(07:51:46) Fhqwhgod: ;)
(07:52:42) Sven_Q45: Yes but I thought you mean a REAL torch. then say torchlight. ;)
(07:52:59) Sven_Q45: torch as flashlight is british.
(07:53:11) Permafry_42: now for a bit of a wait
(07:53:24) circuitbomb: in america, torches are for mobs
(07:53:52) circuitbomb: and ofc dungeons
(07:53:53) Sven_Q45: That´s what I mean. :D
(07:53:55) Permafry_42: we have to wait for the arcade event to occur in orer to get the final code needed
(07:53:58) Cheeseness: Fhqwhgod: We don't need to call our American friends stupid. That won't help them learn
(07:54:01) Sven_Q45: but in Europe also. ;)
(07:54:18) Fhqwhgod: who do you call friends?
(07:54:27) Cheeseness: Everybody :b
(07:54:34) Cheeseness: This approach to real time stuff is neat, but hard to players to read I think
(07:55:08) Fhqwhgod: sure cheese but you also want to sell them hintbooks and want them to call the helpline
(07:55:10) Cheeseness: I wonder if Thimbleweed Park will have any real time stuff
(07:55:37) Sven_Q45: I don´t know who is really "friend".
(07:56:12) circuitbomb: Obama is your friend
(07:56:38) Sven_Q45: He has family members in Germany. ;)
(07:56:43) Fhqwhgod: Thanks Obama
(07:56:47) Permafry_42: while we wait lets explore a bit
(07:56:48) Cheeseness: Anyway
(07:56:50) Cheeseness: Maniac Mansion
(07:56:55) Sven_Q45: But Bush is not a friend. Maybe to Merkel. :d
(07:57:03) Sven_Q45: :D
(07:58:34) Sven_Q45: When I was in Washington Obama wasn´t in the White house. Cuz he was on the move. Politically I think.
(07:58:38) Sven_Q45: :(
(07:59:09) Permafry_42: there we go
(07:59:33) Fhqwhgod: quit spoiling the stream perma!
(07:59:38) Fhqwhgod: :p
(08:01:59) Sven_Q45: Btw Pendulo and Microids are doing something together. I hope for a "next big thing"! (i don´t mean the game)
(08:02:06) Cheeseness: That was a quick game
(08:03:01) Sven_Q45: Well the Pendulo team is very small these days. :(
(08:03:13) Permafry_42: we can officially kill dave here now
(08:03:23) Permafry_42: let's end the stream on a high note
(08:03:24) Sven_Q45: But still I damn like their games!
(08:03:32) Fhqwhgod: Next big thing was neat. except for that music puzzle
(08:03:45) Sven_Q45: Oh that one yeah.
(08:03:47) Cheeseness: Sven_Q45: I was talking about the arcade machine in Maniac Mansion :b
(08:04:32) Sven_Q45: @Cheese. It´s not a game! just a highscore list! ;) :D
(08:04:46) Cheeseness: That's what I was commenting on :b
(08:05:31) Permafry_42: love the red button
(08:05:34) Cheeseness: This pool is in Maniac Mansion ,right?
(08:05:53) Cheeseness: Is in The Cave, right?^
(08:06:03) Cheeseness: When doing the Scientist's section
(08:06:08) meatload: right
(08:06:10) Sven_Q45: Cool.
(08:06:40) Permafry_42: one last thing before we go this week
(08:07:17) meatload: well now you can tell ron that instead of the hamster you decided to kill the character that represented ron
(08:07:32) Permafry_42: ooooh my bad
(08:07:33) Sven_Q45: Last thing. Blowing the f... I mean damn thing up IS the biggest thing to end this. :D
(08:08:25) Syd: Thanks for streaming again, Perma
(08:08:28) Cheeseness: There we go. Thanks Permafry_42
(08:08:49) Syd: We'll try our best to get Ron in again for the finale next week
(08:08:51) VoodooLord: thanks for playing!
(08:08:51) beansmyname: Thanks for streaming, Permafry_42.
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(08:09:14) OzzieMonkey: Hope to join you guys in the chat again next week :D
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(08:09:24) Permafry_42: We'll be doing every ending that can be done with bernard and wendy next week, and killing the hamster too
(08:09:29) Sven_Q45: Cheese?
(08:09:30) Sven_Q45: ;)
(08:09:42) Syd: See you all at the final session!
(08:09:42) Cheeseness: Bye OzzieMonkey and meatload
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(08:09:56) VoodooLord: well the hamster kinda died too so that's accomplished somehow
(08:09:58) Cheeseness: I'll wrap up the chat log there. Don't forget to leave an opinion in the forum thread! http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/15881/