DAVID WATSON AKA SAM THE SKUNKMAN AKA SAM SELEZNY AKA Dr. FrankenbeanStein AKA Dr. FrankenWeedStein AKA King of Snitchcraft

He Is Quickly Becoming The King Of Copyrighted Strain Genetics


I will begin with the smoking gun as to his bust 

Here is an interview with Mel Frank. In the video, Mel talks about his friend from 
California, a very good marijuana breeder he says, who was busted twice and 
ultimately went to the Netherlands. This friend is alleged to have brought Skunk #1, 
Haze, Durban Poison and Afghani #1 to Holland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvkcfrcXmMM


Now, on with the show.


http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/5009/Archief/archief/article/detail/2479440/1998/03/14/Watson-Mijn-bedrijf-is-geen-witwasmachine.dhtml

[quote]In september 1994 kreeg HortaPharm BV opiumverlof van het ministerie van 
volksgezondheid. Het bedrijf van Watson mocht Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) gebruiken 
voor chemisch analytisch onderzoek. THC is een van de stoffen uit de hennepplant die 
als medicijn gebruikt kunnen worden. Het verlof werd alleen voor het onderzoek 
gegeven, niet voor het telen van marihuana. Ook het toedienen bij de mens van THC is 
niet toegestaan. Vorig jaar september liep het verlof af en een tweede verzoek is 
afgewezen. In kort geding bestreed Watson zonder succes die beslissing en nu dient 
zijn hoger beroep. Daarnaast is Watson ook in beroep gegaan bij het College van 
beroep. Een advies over de zaak dat nu op het bureau van de minister ligt, stelt 
Watson opnieuw in het ongelijk. Watson kan op die laatste stand van zaken geen 
commentaar geven. Hij krijgt volgende week pas officieel antwoord. Dat het advies al 
is uitgelekt, ziet hij als een hernieuwde blijk van stemmingmakerij tegen zijn 
bedrijf. “Blijkbaar is het de bedoeling om de grond onder mijn bedrijf vandaan te 
halen”. Al maanden voelt Watson zich met de rug tegen de muur staan en moet hij zich 
voor allerlei zaken verdedigen. Zo werd, ook in Kamervragen, gewezen op het feit dat 
hij voorkomt in de computer van justitie in Santa Cruz, Californië. Hij zou ruim 
dertien jaar geleden zijn opgepakt voor het kweken van hennep. Watson heeft voor die 
affaire een advocaat in de arm genomen. Die heeft deze week in Santa Cruz een zaak 
aangespannen met als doel de naam van zijn cliënt te zuiveren. Volgens een 
medewerkster van advocaat R. Schentz staat Watson in de computer, maar dat is dan ook 
alles. Er is geen rechtszaak geweest, en dus ook geen veroordeling. “Ik was de dag 
van de arrestatie niet eens in Santa Cruz, maar in Nederland”, is Watsons commentaar.
[/quote]


[quote=google translate]
In September 1994 was HortaPharm BV opium license from the Ministry of Health. The 
company Watson was Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) for chemical analytical research. THC 
is one of the substances from the hemp plant which may be used as a medicine. The 
leave was given only for research, not for growing marijuana. Also, the 
administration in man of THC is not allowed. Last September the leave expired and a 
second request was rejected. Interim relief Watson fought unsuccessfully that 
decision and now serves his appeal. In addition, Watson has also appealed to the 
Board of Appeal. An opinion on the case that is now on the desk of the minister, 
Watson argues again unsuccessful. Watson can give to that state of affairs no 
comment. He will next week only official response. That the advice has already been 
leaked, he sees as a renewed expression of animus against his company. "Apparently, 
it is the intention to extract from the ground under my company". For months Watson 
feels with their backs against the wall and he must defend himself for everything. 
Was so, even in a parliamentary question, pointed to the fact that it appears in the 
computer prosecutor in Santa Cruz, California. He would have been arrested over 
thirteen years ago for growing hemp. Watson for the affair took a lawyer. Who has 
this week in Santa Cruz filed a case with the aim of purifying the name of his 
client. According to an employee of attorney R. Schentz stands Watson in the 
computer, but that is all. There has been no litigation, and therefore no 
condemnation. "I was the day of the arrest, not even in Santa Cruz, but in the 
Netherlands," is Watson's comments.[/quote]


Not the best translation, but his lawyer was unable to get his name removed in the 
dutch court proceedings, he at least admits there was a bust in Santa Cruz which he 
now says never happened.

[img]http://oi60.tinypic.com/fm3t4g.jpg[/img]


Do you know what exact bust is Sam referring to when he said he wasn't even in the 
US? Is it the Sacred Seeds bust? Sam claims that he never got busted and never served 
a day in jail. He also said he was the only founding member of Sacred Seeds he has 
never mentioned any other growers/members in S.Seeds. If noone else was a member then 
who did the police bust in the US since Sam claims he was in Holland at the time?

LOL

Sam did not start The Sacred Seeds Collective... it dates back to pre-illegalisation 
and had seed stored at that time that went all the way back to seeds imported in the 
teens and early twenties for the then legal market. 
Sam The Skunkman and also Romulan Joe formerly known as Mendocino Joe are both 
snitches and thieves who ran off with genetics they did not develop and then claimed 
the genetics and made beaucoup money. The ONLY thing Sam did with Skunk #1 was to 
remove the skunk from it, yet he has the nerve to use the name "Skunkman". 
 
   Watson was never anything more than a hangaround with Sacred Seeds and Joe was a 
hangaround who could not make the grade to gain a patch with several East Bay Biker 
groups who fell in with the Korean War vets who brought what became Romulan back 
during the Korean War and carefully cultivated and selected in greenhouses in the 
East Bay and South Bay for a decade and a half before Joe showed up. 

  Sam the Skunkman was in fact present for the famous Santa Cruz bust of Sacred Seeds. Somehow 
he got out before anybody else. Long before. And somehow the DEA threw all the seeds, 
stored pollen, equipment and whole plants into a dumpster and left it guarded by 
nothing but crime scene tape. And then Sam disappeared. Along with a big chunk of the 
Sacred Seeds seed bank.


[quote=Shantibaba]
Hi All

 listen as it is a touchy topic depending upon the side of the water you are on, 
let`s call it a difference of opinion based on similar evidence. The point to all of 
this is that certain things are documented well and have been covered in Holland by a 
radio program that authenticated their facts before going to air. Make of it what you 
wish to believe and let`s be civilised in discussion or remain silent. I do not wish 
to begin to tell off people or ban them so please do not make me start....all the 
best Sb

Sam and Nevil use to work a bit on strains together but when it was revealed that Sam 
and his crew of Americans in Holland all were part of informants for the DEA in 
America on a radio program in Holland they split to the UK to do other things. Sam 
never started or owned a seed company so his claim to all the strains that became 
famous years ago are not really warranted.[/quote]


Contacting VPRO Argos about the dutch radio station broadcast, below is a very basic 
summary of the facts surrounding the VPRO Argos broadcast that is mentioned in the 
Dutch Parliamentary records which also spurred a wave of interest in the Dutch media.

[img]http://oi58.tinypic.com/33n9ug5.jpg[/img]

I can't help but notice that the VPRO accepts the possibility that the info about the 
case may be imprecise if Sam's legal name is different. On the other hand if the 
sheriff gave them such info it may well be valid and true..and probably is 
considering all the facts.



[quote]
Thanks to Uncle Sam


 After 1985 de quality of Nederwiet improved tremendously. Currently "our" wiet is 
considered to be the best. Is that because of Sam Selezny, alias David Watson, the 
super breeder from the states? Or is he under orders?

Report: Bas Barkman and Gert Hage

 It was a lovely day, spring 1985, when a heavily built American landed at Schiphol 
airport. He wore glasses, his long blond hair kept together wih an elastic band. 
Without problems he passed customs and shortly afterwards received a warm welcome 
from another equally heavily built American. 
 Seemingly nothing special, certainly not in the crowded arrivals area of an airport. 
No one could have known that the lugage of the ponytailed man contained a box full of 
seeds- Cannabis seeds.

 The box was the reason for Sam Selezny's trip to Holland. He was here by invitation 
from two pioneers in the weedgrowing industry. Two companions: Michael Taylor and 
Wernard Bruining, the owner of the first coffeeshop in Amsterdam. Although they 
already grew some nederwiet, the quality of it was not particulairly special, the 
knowledge they possessed of growing wasn't extensive enough.

 During that time in Holland, there were probably no more than three big growing 
sites, covering a total a maximum of two thousand square meters. In coffeeshops 
Marrocan hash was still the most popular.
 Sam Selezny, the super grower from the states, as Taylor had announced him to 
Bruining, would change this.
 It proved to be true. Hardly three months after his arrival the first harvest from 
Fat Sam's seeds could be smoked. The connoisseurs where excited, the wiet tasted 
good, with a "high" high.


 Hardly anyone knew at that time, especially not in Holland, that Sam Selezny, who in 
Holland presented himself mainly under the name David Watson, was arrested on the 
20th of march that same year in Santa Cruz, California.

 It was nine years later in the summer of 1994, when Mario Lap, at that time working 
for the Dutch Alcohol and Drugs Institute, tapped Hedy D'acona on the shoulder in 
Brussels.
 "Hedy, can you tell me why you provided David Watson with a license (to grow)?" Lap 
asked the newly appointed MEP and former minister of Health. Lap had only just before 
that found out, to his utter astonishment, that Watson, who he only knew by the name 
of Selezny, was granted a license to grow marijuana for scientific purposes.
 Why on earth Watson, a man with what he had heard a shady past in the states as 
illegal grower, a man who also had been detained and who certainly was not a 
scientist?
 And why not the Academic Medical Center in Amsterdam, which had been after a license 
for years to research the medical workings of the plant?
 MEP D"Ancona didn't know.
 The ministry itself couln't provide Lap with any clearance on the licence which had 
been granted on 16th of september 1994, signed by "plaatsvervangend" director general 
of health, Drs RJ Samsom. 
 Lap; "I couldn't find out how it had happened. Very strange. A bit scary too."
 In two big greenhouses in Rijsenhout, a village near Schiphol airport, the process 
was already under way to develop a cannabis plant with a high THC content, which in 
due course could be used as a basis for medicine. Or rather, it was on those terms 
that, after years of negotiating, the license was granted.
 Three years, with limiting conditions; only chemical analytical research, not more 
than 10 grams of THC and a spotless administration.

 The office and lab of Hortapharm are based in Schinkelhavenkade in Amsterdam. A 
little green building, a big window which in the evenings is covered with a steel 
sliding door. Inside it smells of fresh wiet. David Watson is on his guard. He wants 
to talk, but demands the final say on every sentence written about his firm. It is 
the end of September and Watson is waiting for the decision on the renewal of his 
license. "I want to continue with my research" he says, "I cannot use any publicity 
which might be possibly disadvantageous to my business.
 He is startled when he hears we know the location of his greenhouse. "There are 
millions worth of plants and apparatus, no one is allowed to know."
 Hanging on the wall behind him are 5 licences, granted by the DEA, a worldwide 
operating organization, whose task it is to fight drugs.
 Watson doesn't receive his longed for renewal of his license.
 The ministry announces at the end of September that, since the minister forbids the 
medical supply of cannabis, a license to grow cannabis is no longer in line with the 
health ministries' policies. Besides that, during repeated inspections of Hortapharm, 
it was found the Admin was not run according to the requirements. The decision is 
definite, the two locations where hortapharm is based have to close their doors. On 
29 October the Ministery confirms their decision in writing to Hortapharm: The head 
officials of Justice in Haarlem and Amsterdam have been informed of the fact the 
license has now expired.

 On Schinkelhavenkade however, it is business as usual, the director and only 
shareholder told us last Monday. He saw the decision of the minister in a different 
light. "There are people who want it that way" he said, was his cryptic explanation, 
but there are also people who want it in a different way"
 From his point of view nothing has changed, an "on-going situation". "There is info, 
and there is correct info. They are false statements from the ministry and it's not 
the first time. "
 He didn't want to comment any further on the matter.

 It is not surprising Watson, Alias Sam Selezny is not very willing to talk. Him and 
his firm came under fire only recently during a broadcast from the VPRO. This 
broadcast even lead to questions being asked in Parliament (about the licence)
 The radiomakers had contacted the sheriff of Santa Cruz, who confirmed the arrest of 
Watson on March the 20th in 1985, in relation to illegal cannabis growing.
 How it was possible Watson could set foot in Holland a month later, no one 
understands. Why wasn't he, caught red handed, in prison? As a rule the American 
Justice system doesn't show clemency to drug criminals.
 There are presumptions, also mentioned in the radioprogramme. Is it possible Watson 
struck a deal with American Justice, mainly the DEA? In other words, has he, in 
exchange for his freedom agreed to cooperate with the justice system from time to 
time?

 Questions which are left unanswered.

 The DEA never talks, something the enquetecommitee "van Tra" discovered too.

 On the 5th of November, Minister Borst answered the questions in Parliament.
 No, there had not been a antecedenten investigation in regards to the person 
requesting the license.
 There had been doubts though about the reliability of the request, especially wether 
the cannabis would only be used for scientific purposes. But there was no proof to 
turn these doubts into hard facts. On the basis of doubt a license could not be 
rejected, in the court of law.
 Actively requesting personal information from the police register had never been 
done, but she was planning to do so in due course.

 Subject closed.

 But the case is even stranger than it actually seems.
 How did Watson acquire the funds to found Hortapharm? After some research it shows 
Watson wasn't only involved in illegal weed growing in the USA, but in Holland too. 
Not weedgrowing as a hobby, but on a grand scale, a business worth millions.
 It was clear the Dutch Wietgrowers caught a big fish with getting David Watson on 
board. A man fascinated by the secrets of the cannabis plant. A man on a mission, 
convinced of the blessings of cannabis.

 Like every American, he thought big. Just like Michael Taylor, also known as Michael 
Rich. They became companions, throwing themselves on the big scale growing of 
nederwiet.

 Wernard Bruining declined. "It became too big and too fanatic. They wanted to be the 
best and biggest, which wasn't necessary for me."
 It was annoying for him though that two of his greenhouses were busted shortly after 
wards. A coincidence, the police told him, they just happened to come across it. "But 
it was the first time they busted a big greenhouse. Before that they had never 
managed to do so"

 In the summer two big sites where busted, the third empty upon arrival. Various 
employees where arrested, Watson and Taylor stayed out of sight. In the "us knows us" 
world of growing they were already for some time known as people who pulled the 
strings. Shortly after wards stories circulated the two Americans had started again. 
Within a few months they had set up a new greenhouse. This one was busted too, but 
again no sign of the Americans. 

 Were they simply too smart, or was it something else, something invisible 

(untouchable)?

 No one paid too much attention to it. There were suspicions, but the were erased 
when the two continued a few years later, undisturbed.
 It was the era when partially thanks to Watsons' seed, Holland's masses switched to 
nederwiet.

 It became an internationally recognized product, the new pearl of the dutch 
horticulture.

 But in 1992 the calm tide turned, when in the vicinity of Tilburg two massive 
growsites were busted, with according to the police 40.000 plants.
 Sirens, squat teams, broken doors and a lot of screaming. Two of the approximately 
fifteen suspects broke down practically straight away under questioning and mentioned 
the name Watson as the big man and investor behind the wiet operation. Justice didn't 
act. Didn't ask questions about him, didn't even investigate the large amount of 
funds which apparently left the country via Luxemburg.

 Watson was and remained, to the surprise of many, a free man and founded Hortapharm 
that same year. 

 Supported by advisers he started negotiating with the health ministery about 
acquiring a license. One of these advisors was ex police commissioner (?) K Sietsema, 
at that time already active as Private detective. "If I know Hortapharm? If we're 
talking about the same firm then yes, " Sietsema says; "but I don't talk about my 
clients, a kind of code of honor"

 In the world of the wiet growers suspicion arose. One after the other growsite was 
busted, tens of people disappeared behind bars, but one of the biggest and probably 
best could continue without any disturbances.

 That the American Godfather of Nederwiet had such good contacts that he could 
continue to practice his profession legally for three years, the ultimate breeders' 
dream, was considered utterly strange.

 Coincidence?

 The arrest in 1985, the large scale busts of grow sites without any consequences for 
Watson or his Companion, Hortapharm and its first license, the advisor Sietsema, it 
was too much of a good thing.
 Were Watson and Rich DEA informers after all, as some people had claimed them to be 
before?
 "They started at the right side, but Watson had little choice" Bruining thinks; "It 
was or going to jail or cooperate with the American Justice system."
 Mario Lap, who amongst other things advices the PVDA (dutch political party) on 
drugs problems, is sure of his case.
 
His last bit of doubt dissapeared upon discovering that the Australian Police was 
in possession of a list, compiled by Watson, of renowned Dutch breeders, including a 
precise description of their products, even mentioning the genetic codes. Handy 
with the eye on the plans of the ministry of health to make growing indoors illegal.
 "Instantly those creeps have the monopoly, later on they'll be the only ones 
allowed to breed the seeds, which is what it is about" lap says bitterly.

 Which would make the DEA mission successful. They have the names of the breeders, 
their products and eventually the market of neder weed in hands.
 The DEA has thus proven not only to be champion of controlled drug flow, but has 
also proven itself to be the best wiet grower in the world."

 Copyright: HP/De Tijd 5-12-1997.[/quote]



[quote=Neville]
Neither Marco or Joe Pietri checked the statements that JP attributed to me before 
publishing. Before making statements that are damaging to someone's reputation, you 
need to be sure of your facts, or have first hand knowledge.
 I stand by my testimony re Sam. I was there, I had the documents from the Australian 
Federal Police that Sam gave me and I passed them on to Mario Lap. The rest is 
history.
 I don't know what Sam has said to Marco, to do an about face like that. JP's article 
was not factual and therefore an apology is in order, however it does not mean that 
ALL of the allegations were false, I know they are not.
 N.(nevil)

......

Very true Nev, Sam has cleverly swung this to look like the victim, there is a thread 
at icmag where guys like chimera and tom hill are screaming mad and saying Marco 
needs to do this and that to make right, give money to a charity of skunkman's choice 
etc.
 I would love to step into that thread and say 'hang on, just cos JP was talking 
shite, doesn't make Sam an angel' but it would be deleted asap so why bother.
 Maybe it is time to tell your side of the story Nev. I've had some articles 
published in Marco's magazine, if you wanna provide the info I'd take the time to 
write an article, but given Marco's new stance he might not want to publish it.

.......

I've done that. I've limited my story to the facts. I could speculate what else Sam 
and Rob had in mind when they tried to get me to explain my pedigrees to the feds 
(patents), but the fact remains that they tried to get me to work with the cops in 
order to give people more jail time for what we all do, grow dope. This makes him a 
"dog" in the Australian vernacular. It's all I need to know.
 N.
[/quote]




[quote=dbud1369]It is about seeking the truth. So with that in mind, we all know that 
Nev spent time in jail for his bust (about a year) without ever being charged.... but 
when Sam got busted in '85, then showed up in Amsterdam - did he spend time in 
jail, was he charged? And name ONE other company that has a DEA exemption to use 
Cannabis in the US, just one??? any one???? There aren't ANY? There have been 
Doctors who have tried to get permission to get and use Cannabis to do studies and 
have been repeatedly DENIED > But they [Hortipharm] get the only Import/Export 
DEA approved Cannabis use. They (GW) own about 11 patents on cannabis (cannabinoids) 
and uses and extractions. How does the ball bounce so high in one direction for 
Sam, he got all the breaks in the early 90's and all the way through. I know for a 
fact that there have been many uses of Cannabis for testing purposes (like Brown 
University) and the DEA won't even acknowledge that they DID a study. But let's 
ask someone who would know about the FEDS caring about patients, like their OWN 
FEDERAL PATIENT Irv Rosenfeld - the federal gov't never has done a follow up on any 
of the 13 original IND patients(ya know the ones who can legally smoke cannabis 
WHEREVER THEY WANT per FEDERAL GOV"T) check out the Missoula study for a follow up on 
Irv (done by my friends here in Montana)[/quote]


[quote]There's no jail time in '85 for Mr. Sam. and if served it was very short and 
un-documented. Then showed up in EUROPE with Ed Rosenthal? weird connection to make 
along the way. The "third party DEA " permit to Import/Export Cannabis in US. There 
are doctors and universitys that apply for this to to studies and repeatedly get 
denied.... In fact there are now reports in one state that when a Laboratory filed 
for Sched. I drug handling permit .. they got raided the next week (THIS HAPPEND 
TWICE ) - The DEA permit allows the handling and possesion of Cannabis for research 
and Scientific purposes only. - (ya know like what GW is doing) but for them to deny 
any other University or Doctor access to handle this plant and to continue on with 
recoginized studies.... they control it all. The DEA has colaborated with GW and SAM 
- in ca-hoots if you will.[/quote]



Marco Renda upon lawyers consult made a public apology to sam for a previous article 
written in TY in which Joe Petri, another DEA informant, was quoted outing 'sam the 
skunkman' as a fellow DEA Snitch.


[quote=Matt Rize]
TRUTH will never be revealed on this topic, because sam won't let it out. He denies 
an '85 arrest...? That's just the start.
 He hasn't commented on marco's apology on ic... and you know he has seen it, he is a 
damn mod with 1000 snitches/fanboys over there, and they censor every post with 
financial and political scrutiny.
 Seems if he is hiding the truth it is most likely for a good reason. No one wants to 
deal with the skeletons, especially regarding huge illegal transactions, lol.[/quote]


[quote=Marco Renda]
All I was told is that Sam has 3rd party contracts. Sorry but I have never seen a DEA 
contract before so I really don't know what is on 1.[/quote]


Sam the Skunkman is the one collaborating with Monsanto to produce GMO modified 
cannabis along with herbicide ready varieties and strains ****with NO THC content****
HortiPharm ( Clarke and Watson) sold the HortiPharm genetic library to GW 
Pharmaceuticals. And GW is connected to Bayer Pharmaceuticals. Bayer is the money 
behind the acquisition of close to 40k acres within the Emerald Triangle. That 
partnership bought Bayer the licensing for Sativex in the US as the only competitor 
for Marinol.

Read Dr. David Malmo-Levine sometime on where all this crap is going

Google patent number 6,630,507


"sam" is a conspiring thief who cornered the market by turning in his competition to 
the DEA

Lets put another myth to rest , Sam wasn't the FIRST American to get to The 
Netherlands , nor was he the first to bring Kush region genetics to Norcal or even 
the primary source of 'em. 
 In point of *fact* there are records of Indica genetics in this country dating 
***from the days of prior legality*** and mostly in the regions in which the medical 
cannabis of that time were raised. And Bigpharma of THAT era was heavily invested in 
cannabis. 


Sam's beef with Neville seems clear enough: Neville sold strains to Ben Dronkers’ 
Sensi Seeds while Sam sold the same ones to GW Pharm leaving questions of "property 
rights" for when cannabis became normalized.

If it was just ego on the line, that would be one thing. Unfortunately there is much 
more at stake, especially in light of the fact the Bitter Petrols, Original Gangsters 
and M16s of the world are all in fact hybrids derived from lines Skunkman and company 
would like everyone to believe are their responsibility. And it doesnt take very long 
to see how that benefits these individuals in the long run and how that could affect 
the "community" later.


Its amazing what one can find with a little bit of research. I found the information 
below quite significant, in that it clearly shows Hortapharm is providing samples of 
cannabis (presumably Skunk #1 and other common varieties used in today's modern 
breeding scene) which are being used to "establish conspiracy in the cultivation of 
marijuana" 

 How many varieties of cannabis are hybridized with Skunk#1, or Northern Lights, 
White Widow, Haze, etc? If these samples are sent to testing facilities funded by the 
United States government, which are then being used as evidence in conspiracy charges 
against growers and maybe even breeders, think of the ultimate implications of 
Hortapharms cooperation with the Drug Enforcement Administration. If you've got a 
variety of cannabis related to the samples provided by Hortapharm, and find yourself 
on the wrong end of the law and your plants are then analyzed and found to be 
genetically related to the samples provided by Hortapharm, that information can then 
be used as evidence to support a conspiracy in cultivation charge not just against 
you, but perhaps those who provided the seeds to you and even the breeder themselves. 

 With some time pondering over the ultimate outcome(s) that this research could yield 
in terms of potential legal ramifications against many well known names in the 
industry today, one can not take this information lightly or simply over look it as 
so many of you have chosen to do thus far. Potentially anyone not associated with 
Hortapharm could find themselves a target from the samples of cannabis provided to 
the US government for this research. Pillars of the breeding industry such as Skunk 
#1, Northern Lights, Haze, White Widow etc. are the basic building blocks of 
commercialized seed today. Their prevalence in breeding programs around the world 
today is not questioned, thus making professional and amateur seed alike related in 
some shape, form or fashion to these lines extremely common. And thus rounding into 
the potential for anyone not associated with Hortapharm to become a target simply 
based on genetic relation of their strains to those of the samples Hortapharm has 
provided the government to use in the aiding and abetting of bringing conspiracy of 
cultivation charges against anyone who finds themselves on the wrong end of the law.



Genetic Variation in Hemp and Marijuana (Cannabis sativa L.) According to Amplified Fragment Length Polymorphisms*
 Shannon L. Datwyler, Ph.D. 1,2 ; and George D. Weiblen, Ph.D. 2
 1 Department of Plant Biology, University of Minnesota, 1445 Gortner Avenue, Saint 
Paul, MN 55108.
 2 Present Address: Department of Biological Sciences, California State University, 
Sacramento, 6000 J Street, Sacramento, CA 95819.
 Correspondence to Additional information and reprint requests:
 George D. Weiblen, Ph.D
 Department of Plant Biology
 University of Minnesota
 1445 Gortner Avenue
 Saint Paul, MN 55108
 E-mail: gweiblen@umn.edu

 *HortaPharm B.V. (the Netherlands) and Kenex Ltd. (Canada) provided controlled 
substances for research registered and permitted by the United States Drug 
Enforcement Administration and the Minnesota Board of Pharmacy with support from the 
David and Lucille Packard Foundation and the Minnesota Agricultural Experiment 
Station. The study was first presented at the Botanical Society of America Annual 
Meeting in 2004 at Snowbird, Utah.
 Copyright Copyright © 2006 by American Academy of Forensic Sciences
 KEYWORDS
 forensic science • DNA typing • amplified fragment length polymorphism • analysis of 
molecular variance • heterozygosity • DNA fingerprinting • sex linkage

 ABSTRACT

 ABSTRACT: Cannabis sativa L. (Cannabaceae) is one of the earliest known cultivated 
plants and is important in the global economy today as a licit and an illicit crop. 
Molecular markers distinguishing licit and illicit cultivars have forensic utility, 
but no direct comparison of hemp and marijuana amplified fragment length polymorphism 
(AFLP) has been made to date. Genetic variation was surveyed in three populations of 
fiber hemp and a potent cultivar of marijuana using AFLP markers. Ten primer pairs 
yielded 1206 bands, of which 88% were polymorphic. Eighteen bands represented fixed 
differences between all fiber populations and the drug cultivar. These markers have 
practical utility for (1) establishing conspiracy in the cultivation and distribution 
of marijuana, (2) identifying geographic sources of seized drugs, and (3) 
discriminating illegal, potent marijuana cultivars from hemp where the cultivation of 
industrial hemp is permitted.

 Received 17 Dec. 2005; and in revised form 21 July and 3 Oct. 2005; accepted 22 Oct. 
2005; published 13 Feb. 2006.



Here's another one.




Identification of candidate genes affecting Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol biosynthesis in Cannabis sativa
 M. David Marks,1* Li Tian,2† Jonathan P. Wenger,1 Stephanie N. Omburo,1 Wilfredo 
Soto-Fuentes,1 Ji He,2 David R. Gang,3 George D. Weiblen,1 and Richard A. Dixon2
 
Plant growth and gland isolation

Seeds from the marijuana cultivar Skunk no. 1 were provided by HortaPharm BV 
(Amsterdam, The Netherlands) and imported under a US Drug Enforcement Administration 
(DEA) permit to a registered controlled substance research facility.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2736886/pdf/erp210.pdf



Here are some quotes from, and about ole' sam, the crusader for cannabis.


 Speaking at the International Cannabinoid Research Society (ICRS) conference in 
Montpellier, Dr Geoffrey W Guy, Chairman of GW Pharmaceuticals, said that HortaPharm 
will provide GW with exclusive access to its entire range of cannabis varieties for 
the development of medicines. The worldwide rights acquired by GW for an undisclosed 
sum cover varieties grown to date with certain exceptions and all varieties to be 
bred in future.


 In addition GW will fund HortaPharm's botanical research and HortaPharm scientists 
will assist in the UK Glasshouse propagation, cloning and cultivation programme.
 Dr Guy, said: "There has been much speculation as to the exact role of the various 
chemical components of cannabis in treating patients with illnesses such as Multiple 
Sclerosis and AIDS wasting syndrome. In particular THC (the psychoactive constituent 
chemical) has received much attention. Historical medical reports and more recent 
work may point to the influence of cannabidiol (CBD) in epilepsy and stroke for 
example. We wish to explore the therapeutic benefits and the potential for reduction 
in unwanted effects that may be offered through administration of complete extracts 
containing various defined ratios of the principal cannabinoids."

Mr David Watson, Chief Executive of HortaPharm commented "HortaPharm leads the world 
in its understanding of cannabis botany and has built up over many years the most 
extensive 'Living Library' of Medicinal Cannabis varieties. As soon as Dr Guy's 
clinical research indicates the exact desired composition our scientists can breed 
and register new medicinal varieties".

http://production.investis.com/gwpharmaceuticals/releases/1998-07-23/?version=1

http://www.gwpharm.com/Details%20released%20of%20collaboration%20between%20GW%20Pharmaceuticals%20and%20Hortapharm%20medicinal%20cannabis.aspx


"It looks like dope, but really it's hope," explains the proprietor, American 
entrepreneur David Watson. What he means is that many of these plants have been 
specifically bred not to produce an intoxicating resin or hashish. Indeed, HortaPharm 
hopes to thwart the aims of the average recreational user.

The team are already close to finding their own commercial Holy Grail - seeds that 
will produce a one-off, female, seedless crop of plants with no psychotropic effects 
(or THC highs, to the layman) for the consumer. Why, you might ask, would they want 
to do that?

 .....


Mr Watson and his Dutch colleague, biochemist Etienne de Meijer, are confident that 
by using their own exclusive cross-breeding methods, they can develop healthy plants 
which will combine only the desired chemical make-up of individual medicines.

 There will be no generational deterioration and no genetic difference between each 
plant because they will be bred from themselves: they will be cloned. "You can clone 
a plant 10 times," explains Mr de Meijer, "and every time it will be exactly the 
same."
 Mr de Meijer has developed his own technique of "self-progeny" - or "selfing" - 
where he turns half of one female plant temporarily into a male. Fertilising a plant 
with itself in this way means the same genetic make-up can be reproduced.

 "I can make 20,000 clones with 'selfed' parents in two weeks," he says. "Humans may 
degenerate from inbreeding, but these plants do not. I'm sure I am the first person 
to apply this method of inbreeding to cannabis and I found the selfing process was 
amazingly simple."

But the unique research has no market in Holland. "Because the sale of the drug is 
tolerated in coffee shops, there is no interest - though people don't really know 
what they are buying," says Mr Watson.

 .....


As a result, the seeds that HortaPharm is producing are passed straight on to Britain 
to take their place in the soil at the ground-breaking facility set up this summer by 
Dr Geoffrey Guy in south-east England. "We hooked up with Dr Guy in January and right 
now all we are doing is providing the basic building blocks for his work," says Mr 
Watson. "We were rather surprised that it would happen in England first."
 HortaPharm's sample plants are analysed in the laboratory with a gas chromatographer 
and with each new batch the team homes in on the plant's distinct chemical components 
or cannabinoids - THC, CBD, CBC, CBG and THCV. When Dr Guy completes his medical 
research in Britain, HortaPharm will breed plants to supply the right combination of 
active ingredients for his treatments. "Once Dr Guy has worked out what he wants in 
chemical form, we will find him the right physical characteristics, too, by combining 
desirable features from plants found around the world - high-resin production and 
resistance to disease," says Mr de Meijer.

HortaPharm is only interested in developing female plants that are sterile, but this 
is not just to protect their genetic copyright. "If a plant is not kept busy 
producing seeds, all its energy can go into resin production," says Mr de Miejer.


 Sitting at his computer screen in Amsterdam, Mr Watson can keep an eye on the 
perimeter fence at Dr Guy's British farm via the internet. "The security he has there 
is amazing," says Mr Watson, who flew out to plant the first seeds there two months 
ago.

 In June, Dr Guy's company, G W Pharmaceuticals, secured the first British licence to 
grow the plant for medical purposes. By arrangement with the Home Office, the doctor 
can farm cannabis plants and investigate their properties with a view to marketing a 
cheap herbal-based answer to the debilitating symptoms of MS, Glaucoma, Parkinson's, 
cancer, asthma and Aids.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/cannabis-a-year-that-changed-minds-1200871.html
 .....


There is no question that GW plans to enforce its patents on Sativex, which is a 
precisely dosed medicine. Warns Guy: “To protect our extensive investment, we have 
sought to identify and patent certain inventions throughout the growing, extraction 
and manufacturing process. My comments to Mr. Lucas were made as a friendly and, 
hopefully, helpful gesture as I did not wish him to invest a great amount of effort 
into obtaining approval for a product as a prescription medicine only to find that he 
did not have the freedom to operate in the first place.”

 Guy’s warning was reiterated shortly after I arrived in England to interview him, 
when Mark Rogerson, GW’s grey-templed, elegantly dressed, public relations man, met 
me at the Oxford train station. “Once it’s approved and Sativex becomes a medicine 
under the law, there needs to be a minor change in legislation so it can be 
prescribed,” he said, as he steered his Hyundai (his Audi was in the shop) into 
near-gridlock. “The Home Office has already said they will do that, and then patients 
will be taking a legal medicine. But if you are an MS sufferer, it would still be 
illegal for you to grow cannabis at the bottom of the garden to treat your symptoms. 
Our medicine will be legal, but anything else will not be.”

http://www.walrusmagazine.com/print/2005.02-medicine-medical-marijuana-activist/
 ............


 Speaking at the International Cannabinoid Research Society (ICRS) conference in 
Montpellier, Dr Geoffrey W Guy, Chairman of GW Pharmaceuticals, said that HortaPharm 
will provide GW with exclusive access to its entire range of cannabis varieties for 
the development of medicines. The worldwide rights acquired by GW for an undisclosed 
sum cover varieties grown to date with certain exceptions and all varieties to be 
bred in future. Plant registrations arising from the Dutch breeding programme will be 
owned by GW.

http://www.gwpharm.com/Details%20released%20of%20collaboration%20between%20GW%20Pharmaceuticals%20and%20Hortapharm%20medicinal%20cannabis.aspx
 ........


 At a secret location in southeastern England, GW Pharmaceuticals has built what 
might well be the most high-tech pot palace on the planet. Surrounded by electrified 
razor wire, video cameras, and motion detectors, the greenhouse sprawls across more 
than an acre of land. At any one time, more than 15,000 marijuana plants are growing 
under its 14-foot ceiling, with its banks of lights. Inside is a sea of green, 
comprised of some of the world's most potent strains of pot: Hindu Kush, White Widow, 
Skunk, Northern Lights. Outside of the Netherlands, GW is the only commercial 
organization in Europe licensed to cultivate cannabis on this scale.

http://www.maps.org/media/fc021704_2.html
 .....


 “Monsanto terminator technology is being applied to Cannabis by (David Watson) at Hortapharm in Holland".'

http://community.kpfz.org/node/17

 Quote: “Terminator seeds are genetically engineered to produce a plant that will not 
produce viable seed, meaning that growers would be forced to go back to Monsanto each 
year to buy more seed stock to replant. Governments and public alike became wary of 
the concept when it was discovered that the terminator seed could possibly cross the 
species barrier, possibly spreading infertility among the plant kingdom like a 
disease.” 

 Quote: As we can learn from the Mayans in the foregoing article, the concept of 
saving seeds is sacred and central to their spiritual and physical way of life. The 
same is true for cultural and religious practices all around the world, whether 
you’re a Christian, Buddhists, Hindu, Muslim, Jew, or just a plain old Human Being, 
the concept of saving seed is as old as human society itself. If corporations like 
Monsanto, GW Pharma, Bayer and HortaPharm are allowed to carry out there interests, 
they will hold the genetic copyrights to all Cannabis strains on the planet. GW 
Pharma and HortaPharm have stated their intent to engineer Cannabis strains similar 
to Monsanto’s terminator seed technology. Their strains seem to be artificially 
manipulated to produce "one-off sterile females" which prevents reproduction of 
harvest-able seeds. These are the kinds of strains that are waiting to be controlled, 
regulated, licensed and taxed after the potential passage of proposition 19 in 
California and many similar initiatives across the United States being funded 
directly by Monsanto shareholders. 

 Quote: “Cannabis seeds from Monsanto are almost definitely genetically engineered. 
Genetically engineered plants can be patented, and it is in Monsanto's best interest 
to hold a patent on any seed they sell. Seed patents ensure that companies like 
Monsanto can continue to profit from seeds from year to year, as farmers are legally 
bound to buy patented seeds from the patent holder rather than simply store them from 
the last year's crop.” 

 Quote: “Evidence of an attempted Canadian medical marijuana monopoly began back in 
2000, with a leaked, unpublished document entitled "Draft Statement of Work for The 
Development of a Comprehensive Operation for the Cultivation and Fabrication of 
Marijuana in Canada". The plan called for a seed monopoly - "a licit source" only - 
and the eventual phase-out of all but a pharmaceutical "inhaler" device. According to 
the anonymous source who leaked the document, the first version of the plan also 
called for cannabis strains to be patented "as if they had been genetically 
modified". It appears that GW Pharmaceutical and Bayer have now done so with the 
Cannabis strain "Grace".” 

 Quote: “Cannabis monopolies are nothing new. One can argue that the prohibition of 
Moses's holy kanneh-bosm annointing oil - found in Exodus 30:32 - a prohibition for 
people other than priests and kings - was a type of cannabis monopoly. When botanical 
medicine became popular again in the fourteen hundreds, women healers were first 
called "unschooled" and later called "witches" to prevent them from competing with 
the newly emerging male pharmacists. The same thing happened in the mid eighteen 
hundreds, except this time instead of "witches", these botanical healers were called 
"quacks".” 

 Quote: “A source within the Ministry of Health, who wishes to remain anonymous, has 
provided documents and information to Cannabis Culture, describing how Canadian pot 
is to be grown for upcoming medical trials. The documents call for 185 kg (408 
pounds) of pot to be grown in the first year, and double that amount for the second 
through fifth years.”
 “The thirty-five page guideline document, with the weighty title, Draft Statement of 
Work for The Development of a Comprehensive Operation for the Cultivation and 
Fabrication of Marijuana in Canada, is still open to revisions. It includes proposals 
for how marijuana should be grown, processed and fabricated. Included in these 
guidelines is the potential to give a notorious pharmaceutical company exclusive 
rights for selling seeds to the budding medpot industry.”


Round-Up ready cannabis here we come!


 That is sam's contribution to our community aside from ruining Skunk. 
Terminator seeds owned by GW pharm
How much in royalties might be owed once all common "building block" strains are 
patented like romulan, white widow, haze, skunk #1, northern lights et.al?


Patents on cannabis strains are not gonna be a good thing for anyone but ole' sam.

Especially since Bayer now has been licensed by GW Pharma to produce Sativex , 
Monsanto is in the mix and of course HortiPharm turned over and licensed their 
genetic base to GW (and of course ya need to research Kennex an Novartis in all this) 
All courtesy of the sellout of the weed world and friggin pirate extraordinaire David 
Watson pissant snitch that he was/is along with the bitch known as Robert Connell 
Clarke
 The powergrab by BigPharma on MMJ is already here , the folks that *think* they're " 
movers and shakers" within the industry currently such as Richard Lee , Ken Estes ( 
both of whom have the ethics of a shithouse rat) , Harborside etc are being moved out 
for the arrival of the BIG players. 
 And they're after patenting the genetics. Especially around the new high CBD strain 
push. And of course the jackass pirates have moved into THAT area too , like it's 
anything new since the pre-prohibition " Hemp" strains were very high in CBD and CBN 
while having a low THC content. But since those strains ***are still in existence and 
grown in much of the world for industrial hemp*** the seed companies are trying to 
keep 'em from the Med market , and JUST the "medical" seed market worldwide is a 
MULTI billion dollar a year business. 

 And again, HortiPharm is the **ONLY** DEA licensed seed and gentics production 
company in the world. Supplies genetics to the labs and facility at U of Miss , and 
David Watson didn't exist prior to his arrival in A'Dam in '85 , somehow toting along 
somewhere between 5 and 20 lbs of seed..........odd isn't it that HE got out after 
the Sacred Seeds bust and the rest of the folks didn't , and when you're running from 
the DEA how do you turn up in A'Dam with pretty much ALL the NorCal genetics in tow? 






More history from Shantibaba, to give you insight:

Now to clear up the story and myths that go around, due mainly to people in the 
industry(other seed companies) who are more interested in making money than giving 
information that is correct. Haze brothers worked on the Haze’s and they did get to 
Sam and Nevil(owner of THE SEEDBANK…and then Ben Dronkers retailed Nevils strains 
under the label of SENSI SEEDBANK after Nevil had some jail time in Australia .Nevil 
was the first seed bank or company to exist in Holland so his legendary strains such 
as Northern lights 5, Ultra skunk , Nl5 Haze, Early pearl , Early girl, Shiva 
Skunk….and so on became the basis for a lot of offspring seed companies that followed 
in the 90s.

 In fact companies like Dutch passion and Nirvana began by copying Nevils seeds from 
the F1 seed…but most of them would never say so as they are Dutch business men who 
see dollars first and not genetics….Sam and Nevil use to work a bit on strains 
together but when it was revealed that Sam and his crew of Americans in Holland all 
were part of informants for the DEA in America on a radio program in Holland they 
split to the UK to do other things. Sam never started or owned a seed company so his 
claim to all the strains that became famous years ago are not really warranted. He 
did however do a lot of work on Skunk and shared some seed with Nevil, but as you 
know for breeding you cannot just take any plant and make a strain like Greenhouse 
does nowadays. I was working in Australia on varieties like Mullumbimby madness and 
Thai and Columbia strains of sativas, as well as a lot of original Afghan stock. When 
I came to Holland in 1990 with my seed stock I linked up with Nevil , and used 
Arjan’s coffeeshops to introduce strains of cannabis and a little later the seed 
versions, but we never gave any of the plants to him.Arjan just sold seed produced by 
Nevil and myself. I co founded the Greenhouse Seed Company with Arjan in 1994(unlike 
Arjan’s claim it began in 1985 from him alone…he was angry that I sold my half share 
to him and left in 1998 to Switzerland and to open Mr Nice Seedbank with Nevil and 
Howard…but I was and still am the sole owner of MNS). In 1995 I came out with the 
seed version of White widow, then White Rhino 1996 and White Shark 1997…el nino1998 , 
Himalayan gold and so on. Nevil and I co worked on some Haze strains during the early 
to mid 90s of which Super Silver Haze and Mango Haze were two strains that eventually 
came out of this work.The seed was sold under the Greenhouse Seed co label but Nevil 
held those plants and only sold the seed of these varieties as well as the weed 
version that won all those awards.So as to help Arjan sell the correct weed we set up 
our own independent grow rooms and produced those weeds and Arjan bought them all so 
as no other Dutch shop could compete. In those days the Greenhouse sold the correct 
weed and seed.But in 1998 when I won all the cups with Nevil(including Shantibaba’s 
Hash for best nederhash) I was givien a better offer by a Swiss group to set up a 
medical cannabis farm and distil oil…so I sold my share to Arjan and left. A lot of 
people were shocked as they thought we were a solid unit but actually Arjan was over 
the top already with his success and his ego was too much to listen to and 
considering the Swiss thing had unlimited possibility where as Holland was stuck at 
being glorified dope dealers….as it still is today. Medical was more my interest.

 I took all my plants which made the seeds, especially my fathers and Nevil put all 
his plants with me so together we had a library of all genetics possible in the 
cannabis world. Nevil soon sold his part in one of the coffeeshops and had a big 
problem with Arjan too…but it took another year or two for them to split. Take a look 
at the High times Cannabis cup after 1998, so 1999 onwards….only while Nevil was 
there did they win with SSH, but that soon left with Nevil and Arjan even got caught 
cheating or trying to bribe people to win cup…so was disqualified one year.

 A lot of stories exist about the Widow family and a lot of people had access to some 
of the female versions I left in Holland and soon began claiming to be the creature 
etc….but the original seed versions that won the first cup in 1995 came from my 
plants not anyone else’s. Till today we have all the plants in original form. Franco, 
the Italian working for Arjan now does not even know the original plants as he did 
not come on the scene till after I left. I have nothing against him at all but he is 
paid by Arjan and is part of that show so believes what ever is feed to him. The GHSco 
tried to get things going by buying some seed Nev and I had for sale from a guy in 
Holland during this time. The guy called me up and told me Arjan bought a few 
thousand euros of this seed and a year later came out with seed under the well known 
names he had used previously. The growers could not know this until they grew it out 
and considering a lot of people never grew it before they did not even know what they 
were looking at and still do not.So many seed companies use the names like White 
widow but the genetics are all different. I wrote out the true origins of the plant 
and everyone copied that so it looks like everyone is selling the same genetics but 
it is they are all selling a name that sells…nothing more.Ask Franco to show you a 
photo of the original parents that make the widow…he cannot as he has never seen 
them.The Ghsco linked up with others like Ingemar who claims to be the widow breeder 
but he is only a grower and he never came out with a seed version until after I made 
it in 1995. But all the facts have become mixed and people try to confuse the grower 
by claiming things that no one else can prove to be correct or wrong…as there are no 
rules in the seed game since all cannabis is actually not recognized in the official 
plant world as sub species due to it being drug related. So in actual fact no one 
owns nothing…even all the trademarked R after the names you see from various seed 
companies are all bullshit as they are not really able to protect any names as the 
plants do not officially exist…but that is another story.

 In the late 90s I gave plants to Soma, and he began a seed company a year later 
too…mixing his skunks to my males. This has occurred many times to me just look at 
the Spanish seed companies and 10 years ago…none existed until I went there in 1995 
and gave away 3 kilos of seed to growers via Canamo magazine….but that is another 
story too.

 Now the female seed story saved a lot of seed companies who never really breed seed 
as you only need a F1 female and chemicals….no need for a male…..so go figure why 
companies like the Greenhouse or Dinafem etc…set up selling female seed…..the money 
the demand and not really needing skill with males are all prerequisites to make a 
female seed. It is therefore obvious to me why Arjan (who is a very marketing person 
nothing more) and Franco come out every year with a new name plant…they buy an 
original F1 seed and donk it with silver nitrates and there you have there products…
but now adays there are so many doing it it is incredible. Even companies have called 
me to tell me they feminised a clone of Critical mass in spain and call it critical 
plus….but say nothing more than thanks. So actually I really do not care any longer 
about other companies and what they say. We at MNS sell the real versions that won 
the original awards and made the legends…nowadays it is all confused and everyone is 
going feminised…except MNS. We exist so people who like to breed will be able to with 
the original true breed plants that come from selection and natural collection from 
traveling around the world. As they say, an empty barrel makes a louder noise…and we 
are full. 

 ShantiBaba



[quote=Cannabis Farmer]
Who is Sam the Skunkman and where did he come from? Better yet, whom is he really 
backed by?
As with almost everything these days the hidden agendas of those who are trying to 
control the weed market, or any power organization, the theories abound. To me, in my 
opinion, there is only the gut feelings and organizational independence to keep you 
on a straight path.
Cannabis Farmer is always interested in weed, how to grow and how to cultivate. 
Having spent the better part of 45 years in the search for knowledge and power in the 
plant have provided an abundance of providence.
In the first case I should admit to personally knowing Joe Petri both in the early 
days in the Far East and these later days of his activism on the west coast of the 
USA. For the most part I stay the Cannabis Farmer, just dedicated to growing and 
sharing – as we did back in San Francisco during the mid sixties. It was Joe who 
brought the first, and best, water pressed Afghan to us. I remember it well. Smoking 
it for the first time in Aaron Russo’s rock venue in Chicago.

I watched as Joe worked the scene in Bombay and created the market for American 
Touristers to Australia. An amazing run. Joe was creative and helped a lot of people 
make a living from their lifestyles. I do not know of one instance where Joe “turned” 
on anyone but I did see some abandoned runners. Who they were running for is where it 
gets cloudy and Joe was not close enough to be on the bad edge.

Perhaps Joe’s abrasive tone does not sit well with many, but his idea is straight as 
an arrow. Cannabis is a plant, its use is no business of governments and there should 
be no laws granting or taking any right to a natural plant or imbibing in it. Freedom 
does not allow governments to tell you what to do with plants unless you give them 
the rights to tell you how to live. Did you?

Joe Petri reflects what Cannabis Farmer’s live for – weed for whatever you want. This 
puts him at odds with the sellouts who try to subvert the effort at ending 
prohibition using the lame excuse of medical necessity. Who does not have some pain, 
some problem, something? So what? 

Cannabis is a simple plant, a weed, and its control by government is just wrong. What 
started as a corporate terrorist action to tax cannabis out of existence by Morgan 
banks and Dupont Chemicals (to capitalize the patents for synthetic fiber – which are 
running out and the reason laws are being eased) has been replaced with extreme 
disinformation about a simple weed. All this obscuring the fact that government, 
particularly one under the original US Constitution, has no right making a plant 
illegal. Joe Petri campaigness for the end of prohibition, he, and we, fight for the 
same thing. Others want to allow continued government control over what we can and 
cant do with plants – by letting government control the plant under their medical 
system.

This allows a joke to be made of medical marijuana in so far as you only need to find 
your doctor Feelgood and get a paper to buy it. But it leaves the control of a plant 
under the government.

Sam the Skunkman? Well, I have not had any personal contact with this gentleman and 
the contact here is the most I have had. I had seen him around the “scene” for years 
promoting bubble bags at the various conferences, but he did not make it to my level. 
Maybe he was too much in Amsterdam and not in the world of global marketing? Mostly I 
have seen him pushing the mud bags, the worst rip off in Cannabis history. Trying to 
sell bags and more bags to ignorant stoners, sort of an easy job.
The case Sam the Skunkman makes on my blog to lambaste Petri is weak at best. Calling 
him a snitch when it is he who should be wary of such labels. Skunkman has spent his 
time in trying to corner the coming legal cannabis market by getting on the top of 
the government distribution. One must have some kind of connection to get to this 
level and that is why Sam the Skunkman has problems with credibility.

Since the DEA and CIA will not disclose the names of their agents or snitches it will 
be impossible to verify the veracity of anyone working for them. It is up to you to 
decide where you will place your confidence.

As for me, the Cannabis Farmer, I like Joe and I think Skunkman an arrogant agent of 
mis-information as he pushes a lot of people at the top of the junk pile and his 
horrible bubble bags.
[/quote]




[quote=Detroitmike]
 High Times-Operation Green Merchant-Cannabis Cup


 
On March 20th 1985 David Watson was busted for growing in Santa Cruz, California, 
Watson a junior member of the Sacred Seed collective. The Sacred Seed bank collective 
was created in the 1940’s, most original members long gone or well into there 70’s, a 
generation or more older than I, I’m 63, and have been in Cannabis trade 50 years 
and I can only speak from my 50 years experience of fighting the drug war.
A month later, Watson, now traveling as Sam Selezny arrived in Amsterdam in the 
company of Ed Rosenthal. In his baggage, were the research from the sacred seed 
collective, and 250,000 cannabis seeds.  Ed Rosenthal introduced Sam Selezny as David 
Watson to everyone who was anyone at the time on the Dutch scene. Which was very 
small compared to what it is today.
Surviving members still question how Watson managed to pull this off? A collective 
member states that Watson was a junior member, had nothing to do with creating Skunk 
or`haze strains attributed to Skunk-man as he is now known. Original Skunk had the 
real skunk spray smell, impossible to mask.

The first time I met Skunk-man at the 2007 cup his first comment to me was that I 
blew his cover due to a chapter in my book King of Nepal The Ice Wars edition? He 
even put up wanted posters for me at the cup calling me a snitch. On the scenes I 
came from if was a snitch I’d be dead long ago.

By the time you finish this article you may realize that Sam Selezny aka David Watson 
aka Skunk-man started as a DEA undercover agent, whose undercover career makes Donnie 
Brasco pale when compared, since he finally became a DEA licensee and ”private 
contractor” with the power to make the agency move against competitors
and anybody in his way and to cut deals with Bayer, Monsanto, and the Dutch and 
English Government. Ed Rosenthal’s duped by Watson as well? Rosenthal was the 
cultivation expert at High Times at that time.

Was Watson/Selezny working undercover to bring Sacred Seed collective down? Then used 
Ed Rosenthal to develop his Skunk-man cover and go deeper undercover in Amsterdam?
Did Rosenthal make his fortune from selling our scene to the Dutch due to Reagan drug 
war policy, which shut down ol skool, and any High Times competitor upstart? At what 
point did Ed Rosenthal realize that Skunk-man was DEA undercover?
Neiderweit went from shit to shineola with the introduction of the sacred seed 
collective’s seed bank, now renamed Cultivator’s Choice.

In 1987 Steven Hager was named the new editor for High Times. Operation Green 
Merchant was also created in 1987 the brainchild of DEA agent Jim Stewart. The target 
being High Times, and Sensimilla Tips, as well as the blossoming Indoor grow 
industry. Sensimilla Tips, the all time best grow magazine was put out of business. 
In 1989, raids were conducted in 46 states on grow shops and wholesalers. The only 
one to remain unscathed was High Times, amazingly?

Operation Green Merchant worked many angles. One that they pulled off in Hawaii was 
they opened a grow store in Kona, partied, smoked and got to know some growers,. They 
offered growers a deal, we will give you seeds, nutrients, what ever you need, you 
grow the product and bring it here where we will ship it to your people, you collect 
the money and pay us a share. Only a few went for the deal at first, that went super 
smooth, all packages arrived safely, monies paid, and the share given to grow shop. 
2nd year everyone jumped on board, they busted people from Kona to Brooklyn, You can 
only imagine the numbers, 100’s of folks lost everything, many went to prison.. 
Nearly all busted in 46 States came from information seized from High Times and 
Sensimilla tips, hell all they needed to do was read the magazine, which is how DEA 
Jim Stewart came up with the idea for Green Merchant, shooting fish in a barrel. At 
this point was High Times compromised? Or?

In 1987 Hager went to Amsterdam to interview Nevil of the Seed Bank, while there he 
meets the Skunk-man, who relates tales to him about harvest festivals in Santa Cruz 
and suggests having a Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam as a yearly event. The Skunk-man 
spins his web and Hager is taken in, from this point on everything stated by either 
Skunk-man or his partner Robert C Clarke is taken as fact, Remember Rosenthal is 
cultivation editor, and Clarke used to write under R. Connoisseur at High Times as 
well. Hager being a newbie was enthralled by the lies coming from this trio. At this 
point cannabis history starts to be rewritten by High Times.

In 1988 the first Cannabis Cup was held and lo and behold Cultivators Choice wins for 
Skunk #1. Imagine what an intelligence bonanza the Cannabis Cup, where every grower 
comes to judge the best strains and buy seeds. The database created a DEA agent’s wet 
dream. Funny things started to happen around Amsterdam, seems as if a lot of 

Cultivators Choice competition were being busted, and even Skunk-man’s own warehouse 
grows are busted as well but he remained untouched, took his money to Luxemburg and 
returned to go on, while everyone else went to jail.

In 1990, Nevil Shoenmakers who was also targeted by Green Merchant for his seed bank, 
was not extradited by Holland but was arrested in Australia, where his lawyer in 
court records noted that the police had dossier on Nevil as well as everyone who was 
anyone on the Dutch scene, and that they were complied by Sam Selezny, now known as 
David Watson AKA Skunk-man. This is public knowledge in Amsterdam, noted by Dutch 
crime investigator Mario Lap. Lap investigated Selezny/ Watson as well as Ed 
Rosenthal. Skunkman according to Hager in High Times article sold seeds to Nevil..

 You have to wonder if the Cannabis Cup an idea the Skunk-man proposed
 had been an operation of Green Merchant?  How best for DEA to get information on 
growers than to open a seed bank in Holland, create a cannabis cup, and even win the 
1st cup awarded?

Every top grower in the world goes to Amsterdam for the Cannabis Cup, a bonanza of 
information for DEA and law enforcement around the globe. One has to wonder when 
Rosenthal and Hager realized that Skunk-man was DEA undercover? Without a doubt 
Skunk-man had his claws in High Times, who printed his every word as if gospel.

Everyone busted but High Times, the smell of sulfur coming to my nose, certainly not 
true skunk. Had a deal been struck between Government and High Times and so they 
could remain in business? Since this time much of what has been written by High Times 
is in fact fantasy made up by the Skunk-man to build up his mystique as well as his 
cover. The Haze brothers a figment of Skunk-mans imagination, a play created for 
stoners in order to hype their products. Frankly I shouldn’t blame the Dutch so much 
for fraud as Skunk-man was the one who taught the Dutch the ropes and they fear him, 
as we fear DEA here.

It’s beyond question that the Skunk-man has been a source of information to police 
agencies around the globe.

1994 David Watson/ Selezny was issued a cannabis research license for Hortapharm R & 
D along with his partner Robert C. Clarke aka R. Connisseur, above legitimate 
Universities and PHD’s due to the strong endorsement of DEA, instead of extraditing 
him back to Santa Cruz for that grow bust in 1985? To this day he is one of two 
companies allowed to import cannabis products into US, and the only supplier licensed 
by DEA to supply seeds of predictable quality for research. In a 1998 interview in UK 
Journal, he stated that Hortapharm only wants to produce sterile females, to protect 
the genetic copyright? He has sent botanist’s around the globe to contaminate and 
collect inbred landrace strains, in order to confuse origin in order to claim 
intellectual copyright. Now he claims to have the largest library of medicinal 
cannabis seeds in the world. In other words he patented the munchie effect amongst 
others. Wherever you go on the planet you will find skunk gene pool, this is a war 
crime, to contaminate the original medical strains so as to be able to call them your 
intellectual property is obscene. Just as the making of Mother Nature’s healing 
plants illegal is a war crime, so is the research Hortapharm is doing. Instead of 
extraditing Watson back to Santa Cruz for his 1985 grow bust, he was praised and 

supported by DEA.

In 1997 the inventor, Reinhard Delp introduced the Ice Water Method at the 97 
Cannabis cup and it was off to the races, the most copied and ripped off formula in 
Cannabis history, and who designed and created the fraud? Skunk-man with Clarke, Mel 
Frank and High Times. He did this in order to confuse the origin of the patent.
During the 97 Cup Reinhard had offers promising the world for an exclusive license 
for the method patent pending by “an English Pharmaceutical outfit”, he did a 
comparison test for them with a bigger machine, where he trashed a Pollinator as to 
quality and quality, but finally refused the “exclusive” and insisted on real 
“publishing”, for immediate use for everybody.
At the end of the 97 Cup Hortapharm set up a meeting with Reinhard where Clarke 
demanded “we can’t publish that” and asked why, responded “the people can not handle 
it, it is too strong.”  Unaware of the “powers” of Hortapharm, the inventor told 
Clarke that he was full of it and they had a “fall out”. Reinhard never wanted to 
play monopoly with characters like Hortapharm, Bayer or Monsanto.
The meeting happened at Bill Barth’s place, a much liked, very outspoken fellow, 
equally unimpressed by Clarke at the meeting. The inventor was later told that Bill 
passed away in his sleep.

Crazed by their money and the power they had due to their DEA connection,
High Times and most European Cannabis publications in their pocket, Hortapharm’s 
Watson and Clarke set out to erase the introduction of the Xtractor 420 and the Ice-
Water-Method on the 97 Cannabis Cup from Cannabis history. One year later Mila, who 
just broke a license contract with Reinhard was now the proud owner of the Hemp 
Hotel, received a government grant to develop her invention and Clarke was marketing 
Mila and her new invention: the Ice-O-lator.  But Mila was stupid enough to sell her 
“new creation” with the instructions she received with the XTR 420 .
Another glitch in the scam: some journalistic conscience managed to record the event 
from 1997, simply explaining the new Method in High Times May 98 issue.

In his book Clarke spins the Ice-Water-Method back to the old unsuccessful “Sadu Sam 
Secret” Recipe, which Ed Rosenthal did not mention anymore in a 96 High-Times article 
about Hash, even though he was selling the recipe on a 900 fax years earlier.
Clarke streamlined the recipe for his book, cold water became “chilled”, Mila was 
introduced as the Lady Of Hash and the 1997 XTR 420 was otherwise blacked out of the 
Media. “No limit”- Skunkman approaches the inventor in e-mails, boasting about 10 000 
square meter grows, claimed to have designed Mila’s and the Canadian “Bubble man’s” , 
Mark Richardson’s inventions and threatens legal action, “prior artwork” and “what 
have you”.

In May 2009 Reinhard’s financial lifelines grobots.com and icecold.org got busted by 
the DEA, the company and home vandalized, company inventory destroyed, all private 
and company money taken. (treatingyourself.com, issue 19 “Update”)
He does not stop to sue them for patent infringement.
Also taken was the Cannabis Collective’s seedbank, ten pounds high quality Cannabis 
seeds from landrace strains -sounds familiar?
 
 Skunkman stole the method like the strains he had stolen, created GW Pharmaceuticals 
on the promise of the Ice-Water-Method and hoped to control all cannabis based 
medicines. In fact Sativex was created from Thai genetics, I wonder how the Thai 
government feels about that since cannabis has 8400year history as medicine in 
Thailand?

Watson due to his control of information has been able to pull scam after scam as an 
endorsement from High Times is all you used to need in this business. He knows that 
young stoners and medical patients have no cannabis knowledge and that he can sell 
anything he wants, the frauds have had a tremendous effect on the quality of medicine 
produced. At the same time he has been a mentor to the Dutch who now play from the 
same deck of control of information.

I know by now you have reached the WTF moment in this article, how much more stinky 
is this going to get?

Let’s face it no corporation has more at stake that cannabis continues to be illegal, 
so that only they can produce cannabis based medicine than GW Pharmaceuticals, now 
part of Bayer. GW not only bought strains from Hortapharm but also funds botanical 
research. They paid to collect medicinal strains around the globe while contaminating 
them with skunk strain to confuse origin. By doing this they legally could shut down 
all medical grows for infringing on intellectual property of GW and Hortapharm. Does 
the GW stand for Guy & Watson? When asked now, that GW made it, they inform that 
Watson and Clarke are no longer with them.

WTF, talk about quantum leap, from being wanted for a grow bust in Santa Cruz, to 
being the CEO of Hortapharm, with 5 DEA licenses and partners with GW and Bayer.
Dude, not only did the the DEA seedbank win the 1st cannabis cup, but last year Danny 
Don’t Know, the new cultivation expert at High Times, named the DEA seed-bank 
Cultivators Choice as the all time greatest seed-bank. Then went on to state that 
Skunk-man was the founder of Sacred seeds, when that collective can be traced back to 
before prohibition. There is no foundation of truth from Danny Don’t 
Know nor from High Times when it comes to Skunk-man, they were duped, hoodwinked, 
bamboozled, led down a trail of tears.

From setting up grow shops to operating seed banks in Holland is no quantum leap in 
information gathering during Operation Green Harvest. Or that some of their assets 
from that time, continue to provide information to this day.
Worse thing of all is that for the past 22 years or more everything written on 
cannabis is written in support of frauds these people created. So they have you 
spending more for growing less. That the quality of cannabis and cannabis seed has 
gone down from what ol skool medical imports were originally is without doubt. The 
best cannabis was grown during the golden age of Cannabis 1840-1940, when it was 
legally farmed for medicinal use, Sacred Seeds sought to preserve those strains.

September 2010, Danny Don’t Know states that High Times has no connection to Skunk-
man. Wow has he changed his tune, but is it the truth?

No, Robert C Clarke, partner of David Watson - Skunk-man in Hortapharm and GW 
Pharmaceuticals, continues to promote fraud.
In a special issue of High Times that basically introduces new products to consumers. 
Clarke brought the bubble bag fraud full circle again, calling it a new innovative 
technique, basically using the same information they used when they introduced these 
frauds in 1998-2000. They have a new generation of young stoners and medical patients 
with no cannabis knowledge to cheat.

There are 3 photographs that show the fraud for what it is:

 

   1. You see resins glands at bottom of glass, valuable oils and terpenes 
floating on top, and on top of that water floating, clear separation seen. You lose 
immediately 30-40% using either 25 or 33 micron catch bag. From this point you should 
have gone to coffee filter 5 micron, but you don’t make money selling paper coffee 
filters. Everything about bags works against and retards the Ice Water technique, the 
US patent was granted in 2000, but for Europe and Canada only in 2006 (!). Every time 
you add a bag on top of the 2 bag system you can add a dilution, in a 9 bag system 
you have diluted formula a dozen times. What they neglected to tell you is that 
Mother Nature does all the work for you. The ice method made sieving and all forms of 
processing cannabis obsolete.
   2. In Clarke’s article he states nylon sieving bags as new innovative technique. 
Well thank Soumi  La Valle for leaving us his great work on Hashish. Circa 1979 there's
pictures of a Lebanese cannabis worker holding her 70- micron sieve. This is the final 
sieve used in making the finest Lebanese hashish, they started with metal window 
screen to remove seeds and stems and that material they processed threw 3 sizes of 
nylon sieves the 1st being 150 micron –120 micron-70 micro being the last sieve used 
to make 00 hashish the finest. . They attached this Lebanese technique to the Ice 
Method and called it new innovative technique, when reality the Ice method made 
sieving obsolete. They told you to grind up your material, why? As in the ice water 
environment leaves become flexible, fiber matter stays intact, and resin glands fall 
off with simple agitation. What they don’t tell you is that the method releases the 
oils in trichomes, and that the bags have no way of collecting them, flavor, taste, 
aroma lost. Clarke calls it a new innovative technique, when sieving of Hashish goes 
back to Alexander the Great in the Bekaa Valley of Lebanon, and is one of the oldest 
techniques used by Chinese farmers in Asia going back 1000’s of years, before nylon 
they used silk, metal sieves were introduced in the 19th century and are still in use 
in Afghanistan to this day.  What’s funny is that all the grow gurus never show you 
the Lebanese technique, as that would expose the fraud.
   3. There is a photo of the back of a Lebanese hash factory and mounds are 
leftover cannabis from the hash making process. I can reprocess that left over 
material, and give you more and better hashish than you made to begin with, because 
everything under 70 micron was left behind. I can do the same with any material run 
threw any bag system, flavor, aroma, taste I will recapture using correct technique.
 

All these years the same people have profited enormously due to the illegality of 
cannabis.. The very people who claim to be Free Da Weed are actually working to keep 
it illegal so only they can profit. The learning curves and misinformation these 
people have put out never ceases to amaze me.

 Mark Heinrich who recently did a 2hour interview with Nevil, who is now living in 
Perth. This interview will appear in TY. Stated that not only had Skunkman written a 
dossier on him for DEA, but was recently offered a deal from his bail jumping charge 
from 1990, stemming from Operation Green Merchant. Auzzies would drop charges if 
Nevil would allow Skunkman access to his genetics, so that he could get their DNA and 
track crops around the globe. He refused.
The Cannabis Cup has the stink of Skunkman and operation Green Merchant, who knows 
how many folks have been arrested and sent to prison due to intelligence gathered at 
the High Times Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam.
[/quote]


[quote=Steven Hager]
Truth is, Sam had no idea I’d be inventing the Cannabis Cup later that year, as I 
didn’t even get the idea until I was on the plane home. Did Sam’s stories of the 
Santa Cruz harvest festivals of the 1970s influence me? Of course. But Sam never 
presented himself as a major player in those harvest festivals, or even the boss of 
Sacred Seeds, or the breeder of Skunk #1, which was his primary strain. The story I 
got was Skunk #1 popped up unexpectedly and everybody loved it, and it won some early 
harvest festivals. Which is pretty much the story you get about most of the really 
famous strains.
When I returned to Holland for the first Cannabis Cup months later, Sam was there to 
greet me. He wasn’t sure he wanted Cultivator’s Choice, the name of his new Seed 
Company, to enter the first Cannabis Cup, which so far consisted of Nevil’s Seed Bank 
and Ben Dronkers’ Sensi Seeds. As I recall the Sensi Seed strains were all freshly 
harvested and we couldn’t smoke them without running the samples through a microwave. 
It would take another year for many to catch on to the importance of curing, and keep 
in mind some people in the industry weren’t even stoners. Nevil didn’t care whether 
he won, or whether Skunk #1 won, because he had both Skunk #1 and Northern Lights. 
The final decision was not Dave Watson’s, but something entirely decided by grow guru 
Bram Frank and I because we liked the taste. The only other judge was the 
photographer Jiffy Schnack, who preferred Northern Lights. Nevil at the time was into 
dry sift made from Haze, which he kept to himself, while Sam and Robert were smoking 
full-melt Skunk #1, and were giddy about the way it turned to liquid when they hit it 
with a flame. This was all new to me.
A few years later, Arjan of the Greenhouse showed me a report by Mario Lap indicating 
Sam was really Dave Watson, who’d been busted in Santa Cruz one month before arriving 
in Amsterdam. And he’d supposedly arrived in Amsterdam with hundreds of thousands of 
seeds for sale one month after his bust. After selling the seeds to Nevil, who was 
making a fortune at the time in cash sales, Watson got the only license to study 
medicinal cannabis in Holland. It sure looked like Watson was secretly working with 
the DEA, and those operations might include tracking the ID’s of all the strains of 
the world and documenting the growers and dealers distributing them.
I don’t know if this database was real, or, if so, if it is still being pursued, but 
Mario claimed Watson had written a profile on the situation in Australia that named 
many growers and dealers.

I would not be surprised if Watson is a spook, and I can guarantee the world of 
illegal drugs is filled with spooks in all possible nooks and crannies. He went on to 
co-found Hortapham, which made the deal with GW Pharma, which made the bigger, better 
deal with Bayer, the powerhouse in European medicine. Surely you realize big money is 
an Octopus that pulls strings everywhere it goes?[/quote]

 
Treating Yourself - Meet Dr. Frankenbeanstein
 Konsupsa's picture
 Mon, 06/29/2009 - 08:24 — Konsupsa

 Are your expensive Dutch female seeds hard to clone, or when you try to breed them, 
all you get are hermaphrodites?
 Thank Dr Frankenbeanstein, aka the Skunkman, real name David Watson.

 A bit of history:
 At a 1997 Vancouver Hemp conference, Watson spoke of his research. His main focus 
was to stop growers from cloning nor being able to create any seeds, from strains 
being bred in Amsterdam. The funding for this research came partially from the Dutch 
Government, the rest from DEA. Watson had been busted for growing in Santa Cruz 
California 3-20-85 and resurfaced in Amsterdam to start his seed company Cultivator’s 
Choice. DEA supported the Skunkman’s application for a license to grow for research 
in Holland, even though they should have been extraditing him back to Cali for his 
1985 in Santa Cruz grow bust! DEA endorsement was so strong that he was the first to 
be granted a permit in Holland when several universities and domestic research groups 
with PHD’s and legitimate reasons for research were denied! The Dutch government even 
supplied three greenhouses for Dr. Frankenbeanstein to do his heinous experiments, 
while normal Dutch growers lost all their equipment and had to serve murder-like 
sentences at that time! Dutch seed companies have become the Monsanto of the cannabis 
seed industry, and hope to make us all seed junkies at $20 a seed.!

 The license gave Hortapharm/Skunkman/DEA control over what researchers are allowed 
access to pedigreed seeds of predictable quality! The object is to patent up every 
possible combination of cannabinoids and terpenes with efficacy for every possible 
disease they can treat, and every possible genetic sequence! Once ready to make the 
move, they will shut down every medical cannabis grower for patent fraud, and those 
they can’t will be run out when they produce a more effective product for 
significantly less than $250 an ounce the growers are getting! The Skunkman’s company 
Hortapharm, is the only private organization approved by the Drug Enforcement Agency 
to supply genetics to researchers to this day!

 Gibberillen is a natural growth stimulant, that also changes the sex in plants, male 
to female, female to male. First discovered in the 1930's by researchers looking for 
hormones to stop elongation of the stem during early growth stages of rice and 
prevent crop failures due to to drought or excessive rain, during early growth 
stages. After many years of research, in the 1950's, gibberillens were found that had 
the optimum of success in treating this problem. This is also when researchers 
discovered that gibberillens had beneficial effects on many food crops, increasing 
their yields ten fold! Professor Carlson of Midwestern University created sonic bloom 
in the late 70's, using gibberillens and fertilizers, that when applied to crops , 
then bombarded with sonic waves at a specific frequency, produced yields in most 
crops that were increased 4-10 fold!
 The discovery of the effects of gibberillens were first noted by Sues who discovered 
the product in the early 80's, and tried it as sold by Carlson for increasing his 
gardens yield by using their product and playing (Music) to his plants. It worked! It 
not only increased his yields but produced a few seeds in his stable of pure females 
plants! The ingredient was gibberillens! After using the product several times, he 
has seeds in every crop there after. Confused as to why, his research discovered the 
main active ingredient was gibberillen. After using this for several years, he 
noticed that depending on when you sprayed gibberillens that there would be a few 
seeds or a large amount of seeds! Size was pretty much increased every time. From 
these experiments he discovered that pure stable female plants could be sprayed at 
the (right) times, and produce a few a few male stamens that would create, exact 
duplicates of the mother and would be feminized seeds, sprouting out as females every 
seed!

 At that 1997 Vancouver Hemp conference Master Grower Seus met Watson and explained 
his discovery and findings on gibberillens. That information went back with Dr 
Frankenbeanstein, and when he got back to Amsterdam he called it his own invention 
and from there came the feminized seed phenomenon.. Watson sold his new discovery to 
all takers. One Dutch seed bank even claim that it is their own invention, I guess 
cause the bought the formula from Skunkman? Over application of gibberillens cause 
smaller and less vigorous seed! The habit of not letting them fully finish, the seeds 
are grey, in distinct and hard to sprout.

 Recently Dr Frankenbeanstein testified at another conference in Canada against the 
use of industrial hemp in Canada! GW Pharm/Hortapharm are scared of the hemp 
industry, why? You see, low industrial hemp produces GW’s miracle drug, CBD as a by 
product! There is primariy one gene that tells a plant to be either a primary CBD 
producer or a primary THC producer! The Bd gene produces the enzyme that converts 
cannabigerol into CBD, and the gene Bt gene produces enzyme that converts cannabigerl 
into THC. If a plant inherits a Bt gene from each parent it will only produce low 
cannabigerol of CBD, and visa versa if it gets a Bd gene from each parent. If it 
receives a Bd from one parent, and Bt from another, it will be roughly 50/50 
chemotype, but this is not true breeding. Most herb in the med clubs is homozygous 
for BT, meaning that it does not produce appreciable amounts of CBD. Since CBD 
actually blocks the psychoactive effects of THC, it was selected against by American 
breeders, even though it is extremely effective in boosting the medical efficacy of 
cannabis, especially with regards to degenerative nervous condition, without any 
psychoactivity! CBD by itself has also been shown to be very effective in treating 
anxiety disorders with effectiveness of valium and other benzo drugs, without the 
extreme addictiveness and potential for overdose! Valium and benzos are the most 
dangerous drugs to detox from! Their withdrawal many times worse than crack or 
heroin!

 The only time cannabis users ever really had assess to a higher level of CBD was 
with hashish farmed with populations with varying ratios of Bd and Bt genes! So as it 
stands now, CBD is not available to any real extent to medical cannabis users! If 
industrial hemp farmers were to catch on, that they’re producing a very needed 
medicine, it will harm GW Pharm/Hortapharm!

 In the UK all you hear is the dangers of the new Skunk-weed, that it leads to 
psychosis, that it drives people insane. Just a few years back it looked like 
cannabis laws in the UK were loosening. Cannabis was re-classified back down to level 
2, it was the lowest priority for the police. Then all of a sudden this new Skunk 
strain is introduced causing mass hysteria and reefer madness, to the extent that 
cannabis is reclassified back up to level1! What happened?

 One thing we know, the last thing that GWPharm/Hortapharm want is the medical 
cannabis scene catching hold as it has in California, and many other states in the 
US, in the UK! Hortapharm with the support of DEA and GW Pharm have introduce a 
geneticly engineered super strain of Skunkweed, that makes people paranoid, 
psychotic, and makes you completely stupid. If your not an experienced smoker you may 
not handle it well. First time smoker’s can be scared straight, never to use cannabis 
again! Remember chief lobbyist/ spokeperson for GW Pharm is an X DEA head!
 Cannabis has only been illegal 72 years, it had all ways been legal. 100 years ago 
you could buy Cannabis Sativa Americana and Cannabis Indica extract from Parke Davis 
Pharmaceuticals at your local drug store! In fact in the early 20th century Parke 
Davis seed collectors introduced Indian sub-continent seed into Southern Appalachia 
to create Cannabis Americana of equal or greater potency to the Indian sub-continent 
product they were having difficulty importing due to disruption of shipping from 
world war one! Parke Davis collected seeds from India, Turkestan, and Nepal, and sent 
them back to be grown in the Blue Ridge mountains and Mexico! Parke Davis Scientist 
conducted blind trials on themselves and found the American product both more 
pleasant and more potent! Those heritage medical strains were selected from 100's of 
years of selective breeding legally! Nothing today comes close to the heirloom 
medical strains from that period. Anyone who states that the cannabis of today is 
stronger than yesteryear is dreaming. The pot they smoked in the tea pads of Harlem 
in the 1920's-30's was much better than any concocted strains today! Dr. 
Frankenbeanstein with the help of Rob Clarke, Mel Frank, Ed Rosenthal, Milla 
engineered the largest misinformation ripoff campaign in Cannabis history, that only 
diluted the original Ice Water technique by attaching the ancient dry seiving method, 
to confuse the origin of the now patented Ice Water Method. Attaching this seiving 
technique to the Ice Water method, enabled them to sell Nylon at wedding dress 
prices, but makes no sense! Due to their scam most of the bag product is no progress 
since it contains more fiber than old style quality dry seived Hash and lost taste 
and aroma!

 In the Soumi LaValle book on hashish, you see first hand the seiving technique used 
by a Lebanese family in Baalbek , the different screening process is shown in it’s 
entirety, from that book came the idea for bags. In a dry seive you don’t release 
oils, so the naturals terepenes are in the hash, which is sticky. The bag technique 
releases the oils but only collects broken pieces of resin akin to kief not hash! The 
Lebanese women doing the seiving, could out perform 1000 people using bags. It wasn’t 
a revolutionary technique in hash making it was backward steps!

 Yet clever Dutch and Canadian marketing sent out a huge learning curve, and people 
have been ruining there medicine ever since! This ripoff of a patent method will soon 
be settled in a Canadian court. I hate to burst your bubble but Milla and Bubbleman 
had nothing to do with inventing the Ice Water technique! A patent which made all 
traditional forms of processing cannabis obsolete. Dr Frankenbeans sold a patented 
method that did not belong to him, and laid the foundation for GW Pharmaceuticals, we 
all know that the first step of making Sativex is Ice Water Extraction! The damage 
that has been done to Cannabis is immeasurable! He even sold Mexican and Central 
American genetics, as well as Afghan genetics to GW, as his own!! A call to GW and we 
were told that David Watson and Robert C. Clarke no longer work there. Robert 

Clarke’s book on hashish, as well as Rosenthal, Cervantes, Mel Frank, all wrote in 
support of the fraud. You see those idiots go by one rule, all stoner’s are stupid, 
they feed on young stoner’s and medical patients with no cannabis knowledge. Since 
Dutch seed companies control the media and information, they feel that cannabis 
consumers will buy whatever they tell them to buy!

 When old school ran the cannabis scene, you paid $30-50 an ounce for super Columbian 
gold and red, $60-75 an ounce for high altitude seedless Mexican sativa, $100 an 
ounce for the best Thai, $150 for Hawaiian so strong you thought you were on acid.! 
Now you pay $35 for one seed of Jack Herer, which is Mexican genetics. Ed Rosenthal 
sold our pot culture to the Dutch Monopoly, and now the Dutch seed companies are 
selling it back to us at $20 a seed!

 By 2009, several old school pioneers whose books debunked all the myth and out right 
lying surrounding David Watson/Dr Frankenbeanstein. Dutch cannabis industry should 
thank Ronald Reagan by naming a sewer canal after him! Reagan shut us down, 
imprisoned for years, stripped of their wealth and left with nothing to defend 
themselves. In fact The Black Tuna gang leaders still in prison nearly 30 years, 
Brian Daniels the Thai Stick King recently released after 27 years. Howard Marks who 
no doubt sold a lot of cannabis, was a spoke in the Daniels wheel! They used the US 
Air force, Navy, and the Coast Guard to shut down the entire Caribbean, Gulf of 
Mexico, the Eastern and Western seaboard, to finally shut us down, but before we were 
shut down we had a baby, and that baby was called Home Grown American, from the seeds 
we brought back from Asia!

 Watson’s claim that he was the breeder of California Orange debunked by Jerry 
Beisler’s book, The Bandit of Kabul. In the book Jerry shows his creation California 
Orange, and some of the earliest photos of outdoor grows known circa 1973-74, Jerry 
ran one of the earliest documented seed banks in California!
 Without Ronald Reagan the Dutch cannabis industry would have never happened, the pot 
scene is an American phenomenon that spread around the globe!
 It is just a matter of time before one of the medical states legalizes and taxes and 
regulates cannabis. In fact there is a bill being presented in California that would 
do just that! It would tax cannabis $50 an ounce! The Billions in revenue that would 
generate would cause other medical states to follow, remember folks we are in a 
depression! California legalization is the Dutch Cannabis industry’s worst nightmare. 
Once the coffee shops open in San Francisco, that will be the death of the Dutch 
ripoff scene. American seed banks will be able to operate openly on the world stage!
 Organic land race American seed unpolluted by Dutch genetics will take over the 
market world wide!

 The original strains are still available and wild cannabis still flourishes. 
American growers are going back to the original heirloom medical strains and creating 
there own hybrids. Most of the original American strains have been bred and re-bred, 
engineered and re-engineered by the Dutch seed companies, that at this point are 
useless to the breeder.

 Monsanto terminator technology is being applied to our beloved Cannabis by Dr. 
Frankenbeanstein at Hortapharm in Holland. Let me explain exactly what this means and 
use cotton as example!

 In the cotton example, the goal is to develop a variety of cotton that will grow 
normal until the crop is almost mature. Then, and only then, a toxin will be produced 
in the (seed) embryos, specifically killing the entire next generation of seeds. The 
system has three components: 1. A gene for a toxin that will kill the seed late in 
development, but that will not kill any other part of the plant. 2. A method for 
allowing a plant breeder to grow several generations of cotton plants, already 
genetically-engineered to contain the seed-specific toxin gene, without any seeds 
dying. This is required to produce enough seeds to sell for farmers’ to plant. 3. A 
method for activating the engineered seed- specific toxin gene after the farmer 
plants the seeds, so that the farmer’s second generation will be killed.. These three 
tasks are accomplished by engineering a series of genes, which are all transferred 
permanently to the plant, so that they are passed on via the normal reproduction of 
the plant.

 Dr Frankenbeanstein threatened Skunk magazine to have all Dutch advertizing 
cancelled, which amount to 60% of their revenue, after printing part one of this 
article! This is the complete article. Skunk, High Times, Cannabis Culture, Weed-
World in reality are trade pamphlets, that support the continuing rip off of our 
cannabis community by Hortapharm/GW Pharm/DEA, and the Dutch Cannabis Industry.
 The one beacon of truth telling is Treating yourself magazine in our community. My 
only claim to fame being that I have always been a general in Lord Shiva’s Ganja 
Army. Bom Shiva Bom Shankar Joe Pietri

 King of Nepal


^Joe is also a strain stealing snitch who admits in his book to helping the DEA but the fact remains, there is an abundance of evidence that Sam is a DEA snitch and is actively working to both control, and ruin the cannabis gene pool with terminator technology.