* loner42 is now known as Wilik
<Wilik> hey IFHTT
<IFHTT> sup man
<Wilik> nada
<Wilik> been a fun day
<IFHTT> looks like it :(
<Wilik> figured I might as well come out of hiding and join irc
<IFHTT> lol well it's good to see ya even if the circumstances are shitty
<Wilik> agreed
<snesker> Wilik: did you ever engage in an operation with 7chan?
<Wilik> so I just got done reading a bunch of foolz.us threads about our site
<Wilik> snesker, no
<Wilik> apparently some dummy named BoToX hacked the site
<Wilik> hes from Austria
<woxxy> pretty much, his friends learned a way to enter and he used it
<Wilik> and woxxy, I read you were in the process of trying to archive the entire website
<woxxy> then in that chat he gave a link to the dump
<woxxy> and that got published right away
<woxxy> yeah
<Wilik> how successful were you?
<woxxy> I suppose I’m getting direct download from Yukimura-San 
<woxxy> so i’ll start from scratch
<snesker> other guys were at 50% or so, if I recall
<Wilik> 50% of the entire 1.5tb collection?
<snesker> if I recall
<snesker> 16 or 17 100gb chunks 
<snesker> maybe with redundancy because the guy doing it is bad
<Wilik> well 16 or 17 100gb chucks would give the entire collection if my math serves me right
<woxxy> lol
<snesker> 50% of that
<Wilik> probably gonna be slightly more difficult to get the chucks atm
<Wilik> since I shutdown all the servers
<Wilik> cept for the webserver, so we could post the hacking notice
<snesker> slightly more impossible, you mean
<snesker> so now Jewy McShadyObjective is the only one getting the files
<woxxy> LOL
<Wilik> well, I do pay the server bills
<snesker> from 111 Nigeria Street, South Africa
<Wilik> na
<Wilik> im not from Africa
<snesker> not you
<woxxy> he means me
<Wilik> lol
<Wilik> that depends
<Wilik> im not sure who you are, and I dont remember telling Yuki to give you direct access ;)
* ChanServ sets mode +a #tradersnetwork Yuki|Phone
* ChanServ gives channel operator status to Yuki|Phone
<snesker> also, I thought the reason we were in this mess was because you don't pay the server bills
<woxxy> talk to yuki
<Wilik> +o :)
<Wilik> lol, but the bills do get paid, when the donations are met, someone reported us to paypal which caused the paypal account to be terminated and all donations lost
<snesker> so strangers pay the bills
<Wilik> donations pay the bills
<snesker> so your name is donations
<Wilik> nope
<Wilik> technically on mt I go by Aftershock
<snesker> I go by mrsupsalts
<Wilik> im not sure who you are, I only fix shit when its really broken, pay the bills (with donations) and give horrible news to the community these days
<snesker> aww, shit, I just have away a shitload of personal information
<Wilik> its ok, its not important
<snesker> glad you think my privacy isn't important
<Wilik> it is, but at this point, not much we can do about it
<woxxy> you can get to mailing every user in your database to advise them to change the mail
<Wilik> since all the private info on mt has been leaked onto the internet
<woxxy> err
<woxxy> change passwords
<Wilik> yea, I am working on a script to do that
<woxxy> cool
<Wilik> its gonna take a while, there is 900k+ users
<woxxy> i know
<woxxy> gotta do in batch or something
<Wilik> hey its the foolz.us guys, cool
<Adm|nymous> i was summoned here for some reason :|
<woxxy> nope my name is Jewy McShadyObjective :^)
<snesker> it really is
<Wilik> cool
<Wilik> from south africa, right?
<woxxy> I’m a Shepardi Jew from South Africa that’s right
<Wilik> nice, how many goats do you have?
<woxxy> oh vey
<woxxy> i have none
<Adm|nymous> i just gutted the last one
<Wilik> cool
<Wilik> so woxxy, Yuki isnt gonna give you direct access
<woxxy> i see
<woxxy> you guys have a new plan?
* Yuki|Phone gives channel operator status to Wilik
<snesker> the files have to be had somehow, before the site goes down
<snesker> for good, I mean
<Yuki|Phone> There, back to drinking for me now
<Wilik> have fun Yuki
<Wilik> ping me when you're home
<Wilik> well
<Wilik> as for what we do now
<Wilik> thats a very good question
<Wilik> what do you plan to do woxxy?
<Wilik> setup a new site?
<snesker> others from /a/ plan to as well
<Wilik> do what we've been doing for the past 10 years?
<woxxy> pretty much
<Yuki|Phone> Not till tomorrow man, ttyl
<woxxy> maybe with different structure and infrastructure but the idea is serving direct downloads
<woxxy> and make it easy
<snesker> some guys from /a/ want to create multiple redundancies and archive all of the files and see what happens from there
<Wilik> interesting
<Wilik> how do you guys plan to pay for it?
<Wilik> donations as well?
<Wilik> or just plain old kind people giving you servers?
<woxxy> we got the foolz archive that pays for servers already
<woxxy> this could probably run for free
<woxxy> maybe ads at most
<woxxy> if it gets pricier
<Wilik> yea ads are crap payouts
<woxxy> i know
<woxxy> and really unreliable
<Wilik> manga isnt a field people are fighting to get a hold in
<woxxy> neither it’s nice to put ads on copyrighted material
<woxxy> getting busted is easy
<Wilik> yep
<woxxy> part of foolz team has been working on a release tracking site since past year
<woxxy> this would just come to be integrated to that
<snesker> you'd better do it right
<snesker> people have mangaupdates and google and it does them fine
<woxxy> snesker I’ll give all data if we were to fail
<woxxy> that’s for sure
<woxxy> it’s just how it works for the archive too
<woxxy> if we were to not be able to archive a board, we get in contact with people who can keep it up
<Wilik> well if people have mangaupdates and google, why is getting everything from mt so important?
<woxxy> because scanlators died in the meanwhile and if we lose this data is pretty much gone?
<Wilik> I suppose that makes sense, we do have 10 years worth of manga
<woxxy> yeah.
<woxxy> i even lost my own manga once
<woxxy> that’s why i got a login from you
<Wilik> ah
<Wilik> that sucks
<woxxy> i mean the ones edited by my group
<woxxy> well just a few chapters
<woxxy> but if they weren’t there
<woxxy> it would’ve been pretty hard to get back originals
<snesker> and there's the 6000 mt-exclusive fujoshit titles
<woxxy> lol
<snesker> remember the 6000
<Wilik> lol
<Wilik> is that some kind of spartan joke :P
<snesker> jew joke
<snesker> poorly worded
<snesker> since the channel is jew city
<Wilik> well woxxy
<Wilik> heres what I can do
<snesker> give me little kisses
<snesker> henceforth to be referred to as 'sloppy wets'
<Wilik> I got an offer a while back to sell mt, but I turned it down
<Wilik> i'll sell everything to you, domain and all, for $10k
<snesker> that was a bad decision if you're not going to put some serious effort into improving the site
<woxxy> i don’t want your site, you just leaked passwords for 1m accounts
<Wilik> k
<snesker> I must be out of the loop in the jew world, because I don't understand how a site that doesn't run without donations can expect to go for 10k.
<woxxy> i thought we were going to save data
<Wilik> woxxy, probably not
<woxxy> and i even had the support from the guy who donated 1800$
<woxxy> this is offputting
<Wilik> yea, it kinda sucks
<snesker> so are the servers still burning donated cash while the site is down?
<Wilik> like getting your paypal account killed by some asshat because they dont like your site, or getting over that hurdle only to have some other guy basically dos your site because they want to make a 'archive' or the second you solve that problem getting your site hacked, its all in a days work I suppose :P
<snesker> well, it was more like 40 or 50 guys
<Wilik> guy is a relative term here snesker
<snesker> well
<snesker> I don't particularly think it's right for a dying, unmotivated monolith to hold, as you said, 10 years worth of content hostage for 10 grand.
<Wilik> lol
<snesker> Even in the face of a guy who gave you like $1800 to ensure everyone could get the manga.
<Wilik> the $1800 is going to go towards keeping our backup server online
<snesker> After you leaked 900k emails and passwords.
<woxxy> i think he was promised that he’d get a copy?
<woxxy> don’t remember heh
<Wilik> how could I remember? I didnt promise him a copy
<woxxy> i dunno, i read things on 4chan you know
<Wilik> if Yuki said he was going to get a copy, i'll make sure he does, until then we'll work on rewriting mt, which luckily 1800 will pay for our backup server for quite a while, so we can do that :)
<snesker> How long until the site is fully functional again?
<Wilik> good question
<Wilik> since I actually have a day job these days and am not a unemployeed college student like I was years ago when I wrote the original mt code base
<Wilik> might take a bit longer then 3 days like last time
<snesker> With your business attitude I doubt anyone would help for free.
<Wilik> help write the code?
<snesker> it's not like the site isn't written already
<Wilik> but as you guys have pointed out, its full of security holes right?
<Wilik> for instance, we practically gave away 1m user accounts
<Wilik> would you continue to use that code?
<snesker> So you're going to re-write the whole thing, one some guy's dime, for which he was misled, when you have no time and the same level of skill that allowed it to happen in the first place?
<snesker> I should stop antagonizing you, for my own sake.
<snesker> on*
<Wilik> lol
<Wilik> so you assume that I have the same level of skill I had 10 years ago?
<snesker> yes
<Wilik> k
<Wilik> then why do it, right?
<Wilik> i'll just give bluethings his money back and kill my servers
<Wilik> thanks for all the fish!
<woxxy> i’d rather that heh
<woxxy> guy is extremely generous
<woxxy> and nice
<Wilik> woxy good luck on your endeavor
<woxxy> i rather have the guy back with the money really
<woxxy> and thank you
<snesker> I'm confused
<snesker> Are you fixing the site?
<Wilik> no
<Wilik> im giving bluethings his cash back and canceling my servers
<Wilik> thanks for the input guys
<snesker> c'mon
<Wilik> c'mon what?
<snesker> don't be that way
<Wilik> ha
<snesker> If you quit now, what were the 10 years for?
<Wilik> woxxy is cool with it, and you basically called me a hack, whats the big deal?
<Wilik> they were for fun
<snesker> We're just two random guys from the internet.
<Wilik> yep
<Wilik> im not taking any of this to heart, its all good snesker
<snesker> ;-;
<Wilik> shit happens dude
<Wilik> you got google
<Wilik> and mangaupdates
<Wilik> have fun
<Talarczyk> Wait, are you really killing the whole thing off?
<snesker> What about all the manga that can't be sourced elsewhere?
<snesker> there were 6000 titles at last count
<Wilik> snesker, yea that sucks
<Wilik> seem my previous comment
<Talarczyk> >All this people flowing in from /a/
<Chojiki> Yo
<Talarczyk> Well, shit. That's it, I guess.
<neko> So the services goes down? Finally?
<Chojiki> Is what's going around the baords true?
<Wilik> neko, yes
<Talarczyk> Yep.
<neko> Are you sharing the database, at least?
<neko> Not the user one though. Lol.
<sakisan> Wilik: pm'd you about some stuff
<Wilik> neko, no
<Talarczyk> So, what the hell was the point of this? http://i.imgur.com/SxYwo0z.png
<neko> Why not? There is an attempt to save the work. YOUR work.
<Wilik> the database isnt gonna help save my work, people just want the manga, the manga isnt in the database
<sakisan> yes, but your work, i.e. the site, facilitated the collection and distribution of a lot of manga that now isn't available elsewhere
<Wilik> Talarczyk: its important people know to change their passwords
<Wilik> Talarczyk: for security reasons
<Chojiki> There's gotta be some kinda middle ground we can reach here.
<neko> I hope so.
<Tensei> Can't you at least wait unti lthe 14th like you were going to originally so that the people who were trying to save the manga can finish? 
<risho> listen if you're going to be giving up everything, which is understandable after all that mt has had to put up with over the past week, wouldn't it be best for the community if you passed the torch so to speak?
<sakisan> like I said to you in PM--a lot of people are appreciative of what you've donethe database