**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 01 23:34:15 2012 Jan 01 23:34:15 * Now talking on #bitme.help Jan 01 23:34:15 * Topic for #bitme.help is: OFFICIAL BITME HELP CHANNEL: Help for site members ONLY.NO idling, PMing staff, or invite requests, IP bans are not lifted. State your username & problem for help and wait for a reply. Please Use Your Site Nick. Join #bitmetv.help for BITMETV.org issues. DO NOT IDLE IN THIS CHANNE Jan 01 23:34:15 * Topic for #bitme.help set by wOLF at Sat Sep 17 11:59:02 2011 Jan 01 23:34:19 BlueBunny hi Jan 01 23:34:27 <&BlueBunny> hello Jan 01 23:34:30 You have received a warning for 14 days from BlueBunny Jan 01 23:34:35 Reason: Uploading a dupe while adding some files and then reporting the original Jan 01 23:34:36 <&BlueBunny> yes Jan 01 23:34:41 ..i was trumping Jan 01 23:35:08 <&BlueBunny> wth is that? Jan 01 23:35:26 thats like anywhere. you're replacing an incomplete copy with a complete one Jan 01 23:35:52 <&BlueBunny> well there was no need and no permission to do so Jan 01 23:36:17 <&BlueBunny> you could have just upped the missing files Jan 01 23:36:31 that's messy Jan 01 23:36:53 this is awkward Jan 01 23:37:00 <&BlueBunny> and you did not ask for permission either Jan 01 23:37:39 i'm replacing an incomplete copy with a complete copy after somebody in the comments complained Jan 01 23:37:46 this is reasonable Jan 01 23:38:52 <&BlueBunny> he did not complain, he merely asked if the uploader had the so called missing files aswell Jan 01 23:39:27 so you fix this at bitme just by uploading some unorganised files? Jan 01 23:40:50 <&BlueBunny> no we play by the rules here, if you would have come here, or had sent a msg to the mods asking for permission to upload said files there would not have been an issue, seeing as 66% of your upload is a dupe Jan 01 23:41:47 can you show me for next time where it says this in the rules please Jan 01 23:42:40 <&BlueBunny> http://www.bitme.org/faq.php#86 Jan 01 23:43:31 <&BlueBunny> seems pretty clear to me Jan 01 23:44:58 i'm deducing from that that it's neither dead or packaged differently Jan 01 23:45:36 i'm making the release better for everyone here Jan 01 23:46:09 did you just want me to approach you and ask for permission/notifying you that i'll be replacing something with something better? Jan 01 23:46:44 <&BlueBunny> yes Jan 01 23:47:26 <&BlueBunny> otherwise people will start upping "better" stuff when they feel like it Jan 01 23:47:31 what changes if i notify you after with a torrent report explaining what just happened and what i've thoughtfully done? Jan 01 23:47:54 it is 100% better. undeniable Jan 01 23:48:00 complete. Jan 01 23:48:18 a trump Jan 01 23:48:20 <&BlueBunny> not much, but not everyone that thinks they have a better torrent actually does have a better torrent Jan 01 23:48:53 in this example i am not everyone thinking i have something better but i am me knowing i have a 100% complete retail release Jan 01 23:49:10 can you see? Jan 01 23:49:34 <&Drisanna> I am knowing that arguing with mods over the rules and procedures isn't the worlds best ever idea. Jan 01 23:49:48 <&Drisanna> But I'll shut up now. Just my opinion. Jan 01 23:49:53 <&BlueBunny> well if you just had pm'd the mods at http://www.bitme.org/contactmod.php explaining your case there would not have been an issue Jan 01 23:50:22 there is no issue to have began with if i can talk freely for the sake of complete knowledge and information Jan 01 23:50:35 i am improving the site's content Jan 01 23:50:54 <&BlueBunny> but that does not excuse you from following the rules Jan 01 23:51:24 i'm sorry but my upload is neither replacng something dead nor is it differently packaged in a new format Jan 01 23:51:33 i do not fall under your two bullet points Jan 01 23:51:50 <&BlueBunny> 66% of your upload is a dupe Jan 01 23:52:11 <&BlueBunny> with new files added, this makes it a differently packed upload Jan 01 23:52:37 will you allow this to exists since i'm hear talking to you? Jan 01 23:52:45 asking for permission Jan 01 23:53:24 <&BlueBunny> yes follow the rules as in the faq and add [approved by BlueBUnny] Jan 01 23:53:44 in the torrent description i presume Jan 01 23:53:52 <&BlueBunny> yes Jan 01 23:53:53 what will happen to the other incomplete one? Jan 01 23:54:18 There's another rule of which you should be aware, Groxxxy. I quote from the FAQ: Jan 01 23:54:21 <&Drisanna> What are the rules? Jan 01 23:54:21 <&Drisanna> BitMe.ORG has a number of simple rules you should always follow. Complying with these rules will ensure that your account does not get disabled. Among the most important of the rules are: Jan 01 23:54:21 <&Drisanna> Never defy the wishes of the admins or moderators. Jan 01 23:54:49 i am handling my warning with the staff member that issued it and we're discussing how to best do this Jan 01 23:54:56 <&BlueBunny> I will add a comment with a link to yours Jan 01 23:55:04 alright Jan 01 23:55:29 so could this have been thought of before i was warned? Jan 01 23:55:57 perhaps i needed to be here to settle this equally Jan 01 23:56:57 since my torrent can exist and you're approving it and i cannot see why this conclusion could not have been thought of before, can i please ask for my warning to be removed Jan 01 23:57:44 i know the correct delicate procedure now Jan 01 23:57:48 <&BlueBunny> I am willing to knock it down to one week, take it or leave it Jan 01 23:58:28 can i know the justification for the warning please Jan 01 23:58:35 after the all of the above Jan 01 23:58:36 <&Teej> Whats delecate about uploading a dupe? Jan 01 23:58:54 i am handling my warning with the staff member that issued it Jan 01 23:59:35 i have given my explanations above Jan 01 23:59:56 i know what to do and how to do it and on what grounds beside the ones not being fallen into in your faq Jan 02 00:00:05 i apologise and know how to behave for next time Jan 02 00:00:19 <&BlueBunny> you break the rules you get a warning thats how it works Jan 02 00:00:43 it is my first time Jan 02 00:01:01 like i say it is to make the site better Jan 02 00:01:32 i know now to msg that staff team and inform them of my 'trump' Jan 02 00:01:38 <&BlueBunny> I see some notes that this is not your first run in with staff Jan 02 00:02:29 if this scenario is anything to go by i'm not surprised that you can add into those notes anything you want Jan 02 00:02:56 i apologised and i learnt what to do Jan 02 00:03:00 what more do you want Jan 02 00:03:08 i'm helping the site Jan 02 00:03:12 <&BlueBunny> nothing we're done Jan 02 00:03:16 this is bizarre Jan 02 00:03:25 [15:10] this is clearly stupid and you... Jan 02 00:03:25 [15:10] oh screw it Jan 02 00:03:33 your own words Groxxxy Jan 02 00:03:39 i don't remember Jan 02 00:04:07 <&Teej> Over the script not giving you 150 megs upload credit when you first joined Jan 02 00:04:14 <&Teej> I clearly remember it. Jan 02 00:04:32 yes your system miscounted upload and as it was my first upload it was easy to spot Jan 02 00:04:37 <&Teej> You took up alot of my time and was abusive. Jan 02 00:05:10 it was a very frustrating experience and you were not being as understanding of the problem as a new user would have expected Jan 02 00:05:16 <&Teej> I`m a volunteer, I don`t need the abuse from a very few members. Jan 02 00:05:39 this was a problem that affected the entire site, statistics is what BT runs on Jan 02 00:05:53 <&Teej> Yes I was wrong, BlueBunny is wrong.Neuronstar and Drisanna are wrong. Jan 02 00:06:02 <&Teej> You on the other hand are right Jan 02 00:06:03 no abuse sir at all but i was quite aggravated to say the least Jan 02 00:06:20 Teej the system failed Jan 02 00:06:29 don't blame me Jan 02 00:06:51 <&Teej> You reported the original uploader in a site Report also. The uploader who you duped. Jan 02 00:07:04 today? Jan 02 00:07:08 <&Teej> I`m sorry BlueBunny, I`ll step back now. Jan 02 00:07:11 i've only ever reported torrent Jan 02 00:07:13 s Jan 02 00:07:52 i'm not getting anywhere here Jan 02 00:08:02 you can't be reasoned with Jan 02 00:08:12 <&Teej> ok, sir Jan 02 00:08:13 i'll take my 2 weeks Jan 02 00:08:26 <&Teej> Your account here is NOT a right Jan 02 00:08:42 can i have some sort of confidence that you understand my explanations Jan 02 00:09:06 <&Teej> Account disabled, feel free to go over my head Jan 02 00:09:27 <&Teej> I can`t be reasoned with. Again you are correct. Jan 02 00:09:52 i'm not afraid of you in the slightest Jan 02 00:10:02 this is a very bizarre situation Jan 02 00:10:43 <&Teej> This has been going on for 36 minutes on a holiday Jan 02 00:11:15 i came here to talk with the staff member that warned me Jan 02 00:11:26 i don't know why you took this Jan 02 00:11:48 why you just disabled a seeder on 29 out of 50 torrents i don't know Jan 02 00:12:18 i wasn't complaining or being defensive Jan 02 00:12:29 it was only a conversation Jan 02 00:12:48 can i please be enabled Jan 02 00:12:57 i confirmed that i had understood Jan 02 00:13:31 * Pankaj (Pankaj@2F518695.125E8B0E.A79CA204.IP) has joined #bitme.help Jan 02 00:13:43 hello Jan 02 00:13:49 bluebunny Jan 02 00:13:52 Groxxxy please come back tommarow and we`ll talk about enabling your account. Jan 02 00:14:00 Good bye Groxxxy Jan 02 00:14:02 alright Teej Jan 02 00:14:09 teej **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 02 00:14:15 2012 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 02 22:12:50 2012 Jan 02 22:12:50 * Now talking on #bitme.help Jan 02 22:12:50 * Topic for #bitme.help is: OFFICIAL BITME HELP CHANNEL: Help for site members ONLY.NO idling, PMing staff, or invite requests, IP bans are not lifted. State your username & problem for help and wait for a reply. Please Use Your Site Nick. Join #bitmetv.help for BITMETV.org issues. DO NOT IDLE IN THIS CHANNE Jan 02 22:12:50 * Topic for #bitme.help set by wOLF at Sat Sep 17 11:59:02 2011 Jan 02 22:12:57 Hello Jan 02 22:14:40 Groxxxy. Was told by Teej to return in a day to get my account back. Jan 02 22:19:13 Yes after further consideration I won`t be enabling your account Groxxxy Jan 02 22:19:28 for what reason? Jan 02 22:19:37 <&Teej> Staff has enough to do with their time than spend hours on your problems. Jan 02 22:19:42 why was i banned in the first place Jan 02 22:19:45 <&Teej> I don`t need a reason Jan 02 22:19:52 <&Teej> This is your problem Jan 02 22:19:55 i didn't have any problems Jan 02 22:20:01 <&Teej> You are entitled to nothing here Jan 02 22:20:26 <&Teej> Please leave, I don`t have another hour to spend with you Jan 02 22:20:42 but i want to fileshare Jan 02 22:20:42 * Teej sets ban on *!*Groxxxy@*. Jan 02 22:20:42 * You have been kicked from #bitme.help by Teej (Good day) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 02 22:20:42 2012