15:56	Sruixan	Did either of the wolves offer any sane and reasonable justification for that kill?
15:57	ProfessorLizzard	Zen didn't. He just choose a random guy. And mehgamehn said okay.
15:57	Sruixan	...
15:57	Sruixan	...
15:58	Sruixan	ok honestly how seriously have they been taking this
15:58	Sruixan	I may be taking it a tad too seriously myself but it seems it's no fun unless you /try/
16:01	ProfessorLizzard	The only thing I managed to decipher:
16:01	ProfessorLizzard	With the Cop dead, he can't say, Zen is mafia. And BSBen doesn't trust MrGuy
16:02	ProfessorLizzard	They think that the Traitor was not on the side of the mafia, but a third party, maybe
16:02	Sruixan	except for the fact that BSBen is willing to go along with MrGuy for today at least
16:04	Sruixan	oh hang on this is a little more awkward than it looks
16:04	Sruixan	because with the assumption that everyone's hanging on to...
16:06	ProfessorLizzard	Also, he wants to kill Wojjie too
16:07	Sruixan	If Zen gets lynched, then either BSBen or MrGuy must die tonight. The death of the former would lead to MrGuy getting a wolf result on mehgamehn or a town result on Wojjie. Either way, mehgamehn gets lynched for town victory
16:07	ProfessorLizzard	And what is MrGuy dies?
16:08	Sruixan	In the other case, BSBen would need to be turned against Wojjie of the back of the "he [Zen] seems to me rather town, actually."
16:08	Sruixan	which is the situation more likely to result in a wolf win
16:09	ProfessorLizzard	The situation can go in either way
16:09	ProfessorLizzard	It depends on BSBen
16:09	Sruixan	Exactly
16:10	Sruixan	A MrGuy kill would have made things a fair bit easier, I would have thought.
16:12		*** Sruixan is now known as Sruxy[shower]
16:39		*** Sruxy[shower] is now known as Sruixan
16:40	Sruixan	Ok, I thought about this a bit more in the shower
16:40	ProfessorLizzard	yes?
16:40	Sruixan	If the wolves target Wojjie tonight, will Wojjie get to know that she was hit?
16:41	ProfessorLizzard	Yes, she will.
16:42	Sruixan	urgh right I am hoping mehgamehn kills MrGuy tonight then, I think. If so, mDoc, wProof and W are through.
16:43	Sruixan	Can BSBen self-protect?
16:43	ProfessorLizzard	No. Also, that only worked against mafia
16:43	Sruixan	Well damn.
16:44	ProfessorLizzard	So, BSBen is effectively Vanilla against you
16:44	Sruixan	Since I was thinking that he would want to lynch the wolf, since he could force a Happily-Ever-After Situation if he and the mafioso are left and it shouldn't take too much to persuade him that mehgamehn is the mafioso
16:45	Sruixan	since he was after all the person who said "don't lynch mafia today plz"
16:45	ProfessorLizzard	We shall see the result. Maybe today. Depends on when they log on.
16:46	Sruixan	I just fear that, come tomorrow, the percieved situation will be 1 town, 1 maf, 1 wolf
16:46	Sruixan	whereas it will actually be 2 town 1 wolf
16:47	ProfessorLizzard	Naw, that is AutoWin for the Wolves, if that happens.
16:47	ProfessorLizzard	Wait no
16:47	ProfessorLizzard	Sorry, misread
16:47	Sruixan	no, it wouldn't be. That's the problem
16:47	ProfessorLizzard	I know, my eyes just slipped. Or however you say that
16:48	Sruixan	it's something like that
16:48	Sruixan	ok right I'm thinking now
16:48	Sruixan	tonight there will either be 1 or 0 kills
16:49	Sruixan	now in the situation of the former, BSBen will assume that he protected the second kill target
16:49	Sruixan	therefore the person he targets is confirmed not-mafia
16:50	ProfessorLizzard	Well, I don't have to tell him if he misunderstoods his role. XD
16:50	Sruixan	misunderstood
16:50	Sruixan	wait, what does he think it is?
16:52	ProfessorLizzard	Oh wait. He still thinks that there is one more mafia.
16:52	Sruixan	exactly
16:52	Sruixan	actually
16:53	Sruixan	hand on
16:53	Sruixan	*hang
16:53	Sruixan	who did he target tonight?
16:54	ProfessorLizzard	Knaleidos.
16:54	ProfessorLizzard	He should know that it was a wolf kill by this...
16:54	Sruixan	quite
16:55	Sruixan	that might actually be advantageous
16:57	Sruixan	why would the wolves go for the /mafia/ cop rather than the wolf cop? You could arguably construe that to mean that MrGuy is in fact a wolf masquerading as wolf cop who bussed me D1 to almost confirm him. The referenced "ace up our sleeve" could well be the fact that we accidentally hit the wolf cop N1 and figured we could work with that
16:57	Sruixan	except for the fact that that logic is so convoluted it would have made Escher throw up
16:59	ProfessorLizzard	Meh, Escher could survive it. We'll, we will see what Wojjie decides. To Lynch, or not?
16:59	Sruixan	If she doesn't tomorrow is going to be so much more fun
17:02	ProfessorLizzard	Well, she might post soon, she was in the games forum not too long ago
17:18	Sruixan	ok Wojjie I love you now
17:19	Sruixan	on the grounds of what I said not twenty minutes ago
17:22	ProfessorLizzard	Oh my.
17:22	ProfessorLizzard	:o
17:26	Sruixan	the great thing about that is
17:26	Sruixan	that the votals are currently Zen (2) and MrGuy (1)
17:27	Sruixan	three to lynch
17:27	Sruixan	there are two wolves out there with no placed votes
17:28	ProfessorLizzard	!
17:28	Sruixan	As long as Zen is not silly enough to self-hammer, I do believe we have won
17:28	ProfessorLizzard	I guess I have to start writing the PMs for thex next game a day earlier XD
17:28	ProfessorLizzard	Eh, Zen can do anything! XD
17:28	Sruixan	That's my problem
17:29	Sruixan	He should get online very, very soon
17:29	Sruixan	Now, be he town or scum, he /should/ vote for Wojjie; it's the only sane and reasonable vote to make
17:29	Sruixan	which would allow mehgamehn to hammer and win
17:30	Sruixan	or, an even better circumstance
17:30	Sruixan	would be if BSBen switched votes
17:31	Sruixan	due to his already noted suspicions of Wojjie and that post being the clincher
17:35	Sruixan	SHOCKING NEW DEVELOPMENT!
17:35	Sruixan	BSBen has unvoted Zen
17:36	Sruixan	therefore, as long as Zen does /not/ vote for Wojjie until BSBen has
17:36	Sruixan	we win
17:37	ProfessorLizzard	Oh my. This is getting even more intricating.
17:37	Sruixan	I am cheering from beyond the grave
17:37	ProfessorLizzard	Wait until you see... Conspiracy Town >: D
17:37	Sruixan	I am looking forward to that
17:38	Sruixan	Is it going to be very conspiracy-ish? Because that would make it /awesome/
17:40	ProfessorLizzard	Hopefully.
17:40	Sruixan	*rubs hands together in anticipation*
17:40	ProfessorLizzard	Currently I am checking somethings, not to be too unbalanced.
17:40	ProfessorLizzard	Well, it might NOT be that good, but I had fun designing it.
17:40	Sruixan	That does remind me. I must check to see if the PM logs for Death Note mafia ever got finished
17:41	Sruixan	because I spectated that game and it was all conspiracy-ish and it was /awesome/
17:47	ProfessorLizzard	Heh : D
17:49	Sruixan	hmph. The log has D1 and D4 but nothing in the middle...
17:53	Sruixan	http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=60622
17:53	Sruixan	if you ever have two hours to kill
17:53	Sruixan	then that will probably do it
17:54	ProfessorLizzard	I will definitely look at it.
17:55	Sruixan	SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT III
17:55	Sruixan	mehgamehn is now online
17:55	ProfessorLizzard	Now we have to wait for Zen.
18:01	ProfessorLizzard	MEHGAMEHN VOTED
18:04	Sruixan	YES!
18:04	Sruixan	ZEN IS ONLINE!
18:04	Sruixan	he is viewing his subscribed threads
18:04	Sruixan	my heart is pounding here
18:08	ProfessorLizzard	The excitement!
18:10	ProfessorLizzard	Okay, now I really have to start writing the new PMs XD
18:11	Sruixan	ok at this rate I am tempted to drop him a PM saying "HAMMER YOU FOOL"
18:12	ProfessorLizzard	I want to do it too.
18:29		*** Sruixan is now known as Sruxy[afk]
18:29	Sruxy[afk]	man I am going to be so tense over dinner
18:30	Sruxy[afk]	I'm going to have to come up with some excuse to run away from it after it's finished
18:30	ProfessorLizzard	Heh XD Hopefully, Zen will be quick...
18:34	ProfessorLizzard	FFFFFFFF HE LOGGED OF
18:57	Sruxy[afk]	PL
18:57	Sruxy[afk]	look at this
18:57	Sruxy[afk]	http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?31513-Weird-Mafia.-Currently-playing-WvsMvsT-%28DAY-5%29/page10
18:57	Sruxy[afk]	it is a hammer
18:58	ProfessorLizzard	Stop!
18:58	ProfessorLizzard	Its Hammer time!
19:07	ProfessorLizzard	Done!
19:07	ProfessorLizzard	Congratulations!