rockbox blows Eevee: When did you last try it? what answer would I have to give to not be scoffed at Eevee: You lead me to believe that you've NEVER tried it. Strife89: version I have is certainly from earlier this year it is a cool idea but the execution is, well, less so Eevee: A LOT has been done over the past several months. rather than hacking a device I don't like I'd just prefer to have a hackable device I do like For me, Rockbox is invaluable. for me, rockbox is unusable I prefer it over every DAP OF I've ever tried. Eevee: Please explain why, maybe we can address the problem. :) ok the battery life sucks it never reindexes correctly after a sync and I have to do a full db refresh -- meanwhile it's very vague about the status of such and when it's actually done there is no jp support which makes a lot of my music impossible to tell apart "JP"? Japanese characters? japanese Ah. accelerated wheel scrolling is wonky at best There is, actually. it says unicode support Vixie, Eevee: Yes, but the font also has to be Unicode. plugging an ipod5 in while locked or some other obscure combination of factors will jump back to the native os and I have to restart it but I suppose most damning is that I don't care to lug around an ipod any more and would rather just use last.fm on my phone it is very clearly a nerd tool it is *capable* of doing a lot of things, but the basic stuff like ~playing fucking music~ is a pain in the ass because making that work right is boring What about it, exactly, is a PITA? (10 minutes pass, with lots of chit-chat in the channel) Eevee: What about getting music to play is so bothersome? Strife89: you're looking for like a button you can tell me to push or something that will make it totally lucid and it's not going to happen this is across two years of using the thing and now I have no reason to use it Eevee: I see. Eevee: If you don't mind, I'd like to relay this to the devs, maybe they can use the feedback. Strife89: it doesn't Just Work and it's rarely clear about what he's actually doing