4:57 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: ok
4:57 PM - Pocket: ok
4:57 PM - Pocket: hey hans, did u just ban me?
4:57 PM - Hans: I had you banned yes.
4:58 PM - Toxic entered chat.
4:58 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: i invited Toxic
4:58 PM - Pocket: was a doing something?
4:58 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: ok
4:58 PM - Hans: Duh.
4:58 PM - Pocket: i*
4:58 PM - Hans: You have been abusing a LOT
4:58 PM - Pocket: i was just killing when i was banned
4:58 PM - Pocket: is that a new rule?
4:59 PM - Pocket: ?
4:59 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: he is busy and i think he will be back in a sec
4:59 PM - Toxic: Well, my friends that was on the server said you were abusing. They said you were nocliping and killing people.
5:00 PM - Pocket: not while noclipped
5:00 PM - Toxic: Also they said you were killing in godmode
5:00 PM - Pocket: i taunted and blew someone up
5:00 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: there is a comment on teh steam group page ntw
5:00 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: wit hsome evidence
5:00 PM - Pocket: yes i know
5:00 PM - Pocket: i was taunting
5:00 PM - Pocket: then he ran right up to me so i would get banned
5:00 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: Toxci
5:00 PM - Toxic: Yes?
5:00 PM - Pocket: he was angry with me for killing him alot fairly earlier
5:01 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: anybody you know that we can invite to the chat
5:01 PM - Pocket: so he took some shots and i'm "banned"
5:02 PM - Pocket: is that why u banned me?
5:02 PM - Pocket: is that "A LOT" of abuse. as you put it
5:03 PM - Crafter entered chat.
5:03 PM - KCUROV entered chat.
5:03 PM - Crafter: :P
5:03 PM - KCUROV: wot is dis
5:03 PM - Pocket: hi crafter and kcurov
5:03 PM - Crafter: elloes
5:03 PM - KCUROV: WOT IS DIS I HAVE SHIT TO DO
5:04 PM - Pocket: this would be like everyone
5:04 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: somebody is banned
5:04 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: for a week
5:04 PM - KCUROV: Mhmm
5:04 PM - Pocket: except maby junkatron
5:04 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: for aboose
5:04 PM - KCUROV: I'm sure we all know who it is, correct?
5:04 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: yes
5:04 PM - Toxic: Obviously
5:04 PM - Crafter: :P
5:04 PM - Pocket: i did not abuse tho u just banned me out of random
5:04 PM - Pocket: i was flamethrowering a sniper and got banned
5:05 PM - Pocket: is killing against kcurov's new rules?
5:05 PM - Toxic: Well
5:05 PM - KCUROV: You've been abusing in the past.
5:05 PM - Toxic: Like i said
5:05 PM - Toxic: Yeah
5:05 PM - KCUROV: And, we have just decided on banning you.
5:05 PM - Crafter: ye
5:05 PM - Pocket: by shooting a sniper?
5:05 PM - Toxic: And like i said my friends told me you have been abusing
5:05 PM - KCUROV: Lying is another reason for your ban.
5:05 PM - Crafter: yep
5:05 PM - Pocket: how do i lie
5:06 PM - Hans: You have been denying all of this crap for a while.
5:06 PM - Pocket: there was 1 guy
5:06 PM - Hans: You could at least be honest with us.
5:06 PM - KCUROV: http://puu.sh/29mkH
5:06 PM - Pocket: you can check the comments on the page
5:06 PM - Pocket: yes red that
5:06 PM - Pocket: so your banning me for him
5:06 PM - Hans: For a lot of people.
5:07 PM - Pocket: you seem to have really strict rules here
5:07 PM - KCUROV: Our proof of you lying and abusing lies within this link.
5:07 PM - KCUROV: ohi hans
5:07 PM - Hans: Hi.
5:07 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: ya Kc
5:07 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: look at the people
5:07 PM - Pocket: lying?
5:07 PM - Pocket: how
5:07 PM - Crafter: theres proof dam
5:07 PM - KCUROV: Plus, you were disobeying an admin earlier
5:07 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: mods and admins
5:07 PM - Crafter: :P
5:07 PM - KCUROV: I'll be back in a second
5:08 PM - Hans: I understand that you only do this when I am not on the server.
5:08 PM - Pocket: how
5:08 PM - Hans: Because I only get reports right after i leave.
5:08 PM - Pocket: i killed like an idler and 1 person
5:08 PM - Pocket: with a taunt
5:08 PM - Hans: Bull.
5:08 PM - Pocket: and the dude was angry at me for killing him earlier
5:08 PM - Pocket: so he ran into me while i was taunting me so i could get banned
5:09 PM - Pocket: how else would he get screenshotts, he's constantly taking them?
5:09 PM - Toxic: *You ran into him
5:09 PM - Pocket: opposite of the above^
5:09 PM - Hans: So tell me, why would vince be so mad about you killing one person and an idler.
5:09 PM - Pocket: not vince
5:09 PM - Pocket: the other dude
5:09 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: Kraft pug
5:09 PM - Crafter: :p
5:09 PM - Pocket: yea
5:09 PM - Hans: Why would he want you banned for no reason< huh?
5:09 PM - Pocket: cause i was dominating him
5:10 PM - Hans: He is not that kind of person.
5:10 PM - Pocket: thats why i'm talking to you hans
5:10 PM - Pocket: who
5:10 PM - Hans: kraft.
5:10 PM - Pocket: because he gets really competitibe
5:10 PM - Pocket: competitive*
5:10 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: anybody have kraft on their friends list?
5:10 PM - Crafter: no
5:10 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: if so invite him
5:11 PM - Toxic: I don't think so
5:11 PM - Toxic: I can just add him and just invite him here
5:11 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: he is not on hans said
5:11 PM - Pocket: so your banning me for a supercompetetive guy and killin an idler
5:11 PM - Hans: I just checked.
5:11 PM - KCUROV: Kraft isn't on
5:12 PM - Pocket: seems legit
5:12 PM - Toxic: ah
5:12 PM - Hans: Listen, pocket.
5:12 PM - Pocket: i am
5:12 PM - Hans: If you stop denying it, we will leave the ban at ONE week.
5:12 PM - Hans: Just accept it and don't do it anymore, got it?
5:12 PM - Pocket: denying what!
5:13 PM - Hans: God damn dude
5:13 PM - KCUROV: Ugh
5:13 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: guys
5:13 PM - Crafter: ...
5:13 PM - KCUROV: You've been denying abuse this entire time.
5:13 PM - Pocket: i am not denying anything
5:13 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: is it ok if i invite callum?
5:13 PM - KCUROV: And, you were disobeying admins
5:13 PM - KCUROV: quote "idk im getting banned anyway"
5:13 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: he might have something to say
5:13 PM - Hans: Go for it hungry
5:13 PM - Crafter: ye
5:13 PM - Pocket: he wasnt there
5:14 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:. entered chat.
5:14 PM - Pocket: how would he know?
5:14 PM - Hans: Welcome to hell, callum
5:14 PM - Pocket: he wasnt there
5:14 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: thanks :3
5:14 PM - Pocket: lol
5:14 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: lol hans
5:14 PM - Hans: :P
5:14 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: ok Callum
5:14 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: we have a problem
5:14 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: Pocket has been banned for a week
5:14 PM - Pocket: there banning me for no reason
5:14 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: for abusing and he thinks it is bull
5:14 PM - Pocket: they say "abuse"
5:14 PM - Pocket: and "denying"
5:14 PM - Pocket: but its all bull
5:15 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: im pretty sure like everyone has seen you abuse
5:15 PM - Pocket: they dont even tell me what i'm doing
5:15 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: so would you like to give some examples?
5:15 PM - KCUROV: Yes we have, Callum
5:15 PM - KCUROV: And we have proof of it.
5:15 PM - Pocket: i would love to hear you try
5:15 PM - KCUROV: http://puu.sh/29mkH
5:15 PM - KCUROV: Example A
5:15 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: lol
5:15 PM - Pocket: ok
5:15 PM - Pocket: how many times have i explaned that
5:15 PM - Pocket: 2
5:15 PM - Pocket: i dont wanna make it a third
5:15 PM - Pocket: scroll up and read
5:16 PM - KCUROV: You were in the RED team spawn, taunt-killing with godmode.
5:16 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: :L
5:16 PM - Hans: Stop playing dumb, pocket.
5:16 PM - Pocket: scroll up and read
5:16 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: i am pretty sure Kraft pug does not lie
5:16 PM - Pocket: why, do u know him?
5:16 PM - KCUROV: I've known Kraft for a bit and he's nice
5:16 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: also KC if you have stuff to do do not make this stop you g ahead and do it
5:16 PM - KCUROV: Aight
5:17 PM - KCUROV: I'll leave in a bit then
5:17 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: k
5:17 PM - KCUROV: And, because of me Kraft is donator, Pocket.
5:17 PM - Pocket: he got superconpetetive and tried to ban me
5:17 PM - Pocket: thats the shortened version for you
5:17 PM - Hans: I feel like this is high council judging someone for death or something lol
5:17 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: donator and mods can not ban
5:17 PM - Pocket: i know
5:17 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: lol hans true
5:17 PM - Hans: Mods can.
5:18 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: can we?
5:18 PM - Pocket: he posted that thing so i would get banned
5:18 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: did not know taht
5:18 PM - Pocket: see the logic?
5:18 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: that*
5:18 PM - KCUROV: Pocket, if he wanted you banned he would've told me
5:18 PM - KCUROV: But, he hasn't come running up to me saying "POCKET DOMINATED ME LET'S BAN HIM"
5:18 PM - Pocket: he did
5:18 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: lol
5:18 PM - KCUROV: No, he posted proof of you abusing.
5:18 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: makes perfect sense
5:18 PM - Pocket: he wouldnt have said that
5:19 PM - Hans: Ok, this is going nowhere. I have made my decision, so it is done either way. Just come back in a week and deal with it.
5:19 PM - Pocket: if you wanna get someone banned dont say its because of domination
5:19 PM - Pocket: say its because of abuse
5:19 PM - KCUROV: Oh, and you wouldn't have dominated him if it weren't for the taunting and godmode.
5:19 PM - Pocket: ok
5:19 PM - Pocket: no
5:19 PM - Pocket: he was dominated long before
5:19 PM - Pocket: thats how he got supercompetitive
5:19 PM - KCUROV: 1:09 PM - Hans: Why would he want you banned for no reason< huh?
1:09 PM - Pocket: cause i was dominating him
5:19 PM - KCUROV: sorry
5:19 PM - KCUROV: wat
5:19 PM - Pocket: ok just refund me, and i'l never see you guys again
5:19 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: dat evidence
5:19 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: soo
5:19 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: Hans
5:20 PM - Hans: Yea, hungry?
5:20 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: should i kick Pocket from the chat
5:20 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: orrr
5:20 PM - Hans: Let him ramble if he likes.
5:20 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: ok
5:20 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: :3
5:20 PM - Crafter: :3
5:20 PM - Toxic: Mhm
5:20 PM - Pocket: refund me my keys and i will never haf to see u guys again
5:20 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: :3 x3
5:20 PM - Hans: he can come back in one week, it is not that bacd.
5:20 PM - Hans: *bad
5:21 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: Pocket it is not you
5:21 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: it is what you do
5:21 PM - Pocket: yes but if you ban me for this, then i'l surely get banned for nothing later
5:21 PM - Pocket: what i do defines me
5:21 PM - KCUROV: "banned for nothing"
5:21 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: "nothing"
5:21 PM - Toxic: You were banned for a reason.
5:21 PM - Pocket: for someone elses competeitveness
5:21 PM - Hans: I probably would have made the ban shorter if you had said "I am sorry, it will not happen again."
5:21 PM - Pocket: are you gunna ban me for that?
5:21 PM - KCUROV: Are we honest men, or are we devils?
5:21 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: devils
5:21 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: :3
5:21 PM - Hans: xD
5:21 PM - KCUROV: noh u dont sey dat
5:22 PM - Pocket: because it didnt happen
5:22 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: im sorry it wont happen again :L
5:22 PM - Pocket: i'm sorry it wont happin again
5:22 PM - Pocket: there
5:22 PM - Pocket: ya feel better now?
5:22 PM - KCUROV: Pocket, it's too late for that as it seems
5:22 PM - Pocket: for you
5:22 PM - KCUROV: 1:21 PM - Hans: I probably would have made the ban shorter if you had said "I am sorry, it will not happen again."
5:23 PM - KCUROV: "probably"
5:23 PM - KCUROV: inb4 r u gona ban me for dis
5:23 PM - Toxic: :/
5:23 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: are we executing him for one week then ressurecting him
5:23 PM - Pocket: for real guys?
5:23 PM - Pocket: without the words abuse, and denying explain why i am getting banned
5:24 PM - Toxic: Killing people in godmode.
5:24 PM - Toxic: And noclip killing
5:24 PM - KCUROV: Abusing, lying after you've been caught, and disobeying admins.
5:24 PM - Hans: And godmode taunt killing in spawn
5:24 PM - Pocket: that is the word abuse
5:24 PM - KCUROV: Abusing as in what Toxic&Hans said
5:24 PM - KCUROV: Pocket, in our case abuse is killing people with the commands
5:24 PM - Pocket: hhow am i lying
5:25 PM - Toxic: *sigh*
5:25 PM - Pocket: yes sigh
5:25 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: *sigh*
5:25 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: lesigh
5:25 PM - Pocket: you guys are so hard to find out why i'm banned
5:25 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: le sigh*
5:25 PM - Crafter: *le sigh*
5:25 PM - KCUROV: Ugh, again I have to post this.
5:25 PM - KCUROV: http://puu.sh/29mkH
5:25 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: le sigh x3
5:25 PM - KCUROV: In that you were lying
5:25 PM - Crafter: XD
5:25 PM - KCUROV: Gotta go
5:25 PM - KCUROV: bye
5:25 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: bah
5:25 PM - Crafter: ok
5:25 PM - Pocket: i was not lying in that
5:25 PM - Pocket: tho
5:25 PM - KCUROV disconnected.
5:26 PM - Pocket: i just looked over it for the 10000-000th time
5:26 PM - Crafter: o.o
5:26 PM - Pocket: yes
5:26 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: i gtg t dinner bye sorry
5:26 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: to*
5:26 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: bah
5:27 PM - Toxic: Bai
5:27 PM - Hans: Bai
5:27 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR: bai
5:27 PM - Hungry Blanket TϟR disconnected.
5:27 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: i feel left out of the bai group
5:27 PM - Pocket: hey guys, refund me my donator keys and you never have to deal with this conversation ever again
5:27 PM - Hans: When you get banned forcefully, there is no refund.
5:28 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: or you could deal with the ban and come bck next week and not abuse
5:28 PM - Pocket: I DONT ABUSE THO
5:28 PM - Toxic: Oh my..
5:28 PM - Pocket: btw hans, r u a scammer?
5:28 PM - Toxic: 5:24 PM - Toxic: Killing people in godmode.
5:24 PM - Toxic: And noclip killing
5:28 PM - Toxic: Thats abuse
5:28 PM - Hans: Oh, yes. I scam people all the time.
5:28 PM - Pocket: cause theres proof
5:28 PM - Hans: You didnt know?
5:28 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: same :3
5:29 PM - Pocket: deep in the comments
5:29 PM - Pocket: thats not cool dude
5:29 PM - Toxic: Oh
5:29 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: its good fun to scam a few buds now and them
5:29 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: then*
5:29 PM - Toxic: I got a strange sapper for a key
5:29 PM - Hans: everyone scams
5:29 PM - Toxic: Does that count as a scam?
5:29 PM - Pocket: wow
5:29 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: meh it means the dude was an idiot
5:29 PM - Pocket: i see i was out of my 15 keys
5:30 PM - Crafter: :P
5:30 PM - Pocket: and i would like you to refund them
5:30 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: we're off topic btw :P
5:30 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: ok back on
5:30 PM - Hans: orly.exe
5:30 PM - Toxic: okai
5:30 PM - Pocket: btw i got a screenshot of this conversation
5:30 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: nope.exe
5:31 PM - Pocket: you might get steambandded
5:31 PM - Hans: LOL
5:31 PM - Toxic: lmao
5:31 PM - Toxic: how?
5:31 PM - Pocket: you are not so bright are you
5:31 PM - Toxic: just because we banned you?
5:31 PM - Toxic: are you retarded?
5:31 PM - Hans: I need to screenshot this, now
5:31 PM - Pocket: for no reason
5:31 PM - Pocket: its alright hans
5:31 PM - Pocket: i already did
5:31 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: shoutout to people
5:31 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: take it now ^
5:32 PM - Toxic: Well i dont care about steamrep
5:32 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: Nor do i
5:32 PM - Hans: Me neither
5:32 PM - Hans: Nor do my key buyers.
5:32 PM - Pocket: well
5:32 PM - Pocket: i hope you like tradeing
5:32 PM - Pocket: cause you wont be able to
5:32 PM - Pocket: might even be banned from steam!
5:33 PM - Hans: pocket i love you
5:33 PM - Hans: this is greqat
5:33 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: wowz
5:33 PM - Toxic: they are just a bunch of nerds saying that "this and that guy is scammer" and shit
5:33 PM - Hans: *great
5:34 PM - Hans: Imma post these to the group for the publics lawls
5:34 PM - Toxic: lol
5:34 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: btw hans will you ever fix the tags :3
5:35 PM - Pocket: lol hope you do
5:35 PM - Pocket: cause you scamm people
5:35 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: ill give you a key if you can do it in the next year :P
5:35 PM - Hans: Ill ge around to it, it is things like this that take my time up.
5:35 PM - Hans: xD
5:35 PM - Pocket: and deserve retribution
5:35 PM - Toxic: How does he scam?
5:35 PM - Toxic: yExplain how
5:35 PM - Pocket: he admited it
5:35 PM - Toxic: explain*
5:35 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: hans scammed me out of my scrap metal
5:35 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: im nothing...
5:35 PM - Toxic: and then gave it back
5:36 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: :P
5:36 PM - Pocket: got a shot of the scamm out of scrap
5:36 PM - Pocket: just keep going
5:36 PM - Pocket: cmon guys
5:36 PM - Toxic: Oh and i also admit it so your just gonna go on steam rep for false report
5:36 PM - Toxic: ?
5:37 PM - Pocket: lol
5:37 PM - Hans: Pocket. Listen to me and listen good. You have a lot of growing up to do before ANYONE will ever give you a tiny ounce of their respect. You act like you posess the intellect and maturity level of a 5 year old.
5:38 PM - Toxic: ^
5:38 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: ^
5:38 PM - Pocket: lol
5:38 PM - Pocket: that would be abuse and could get you further banned
5:38 PM - Pocket: i am warning you
5:38 PM - Hans: You just proved my point
5:38 PM - Toxic: wut
5:38 PM - Hans: Thanks.
5:39 PM - Pocket: np
5:39 PM - Pocket: lol
5:39 PM - Pocket: anything else you have to admit to?
5:39 PM - Toxic: i hack
5:39 PM - Hans: I hack too
5:40 PM - Pocket: lol
5:40 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: i use speedhax
5:40 PM - Hans: I have one more thing to admit to as well
5:40 PM - Pocket: you guys...
5:40 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: and nawclipz
5:40 PM - Toxic: i also stole a dollar from my moms purse
5:41 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: i stole a creme egg when i was 5 :3
5:41 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: i didnt know you had to pay :P
5:41 PM - Toxic: i use reDarkstorm
5:41 PM - Toxic: for hax
5:42 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: i use hack.com
5:42 PM - Hans: i have something terrible to admit to
5:42 PM - Hans: I own a well kept server with well trained admins who tell me everything I need to know. I have a good community of honest people. And worst of all, I care about my players
5:42 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: oh my god...
5:42 PM - Pocket: honest?
5:42 PM - Hans: ban me now
5:42 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: im going to throw up
5:42 PM - Pocket: good?
5:42 PM - Pocket: well trained?
5:42 PM - Pocket: i'm confuzed
5:43 PM - Hans: Give me proof that shows anything else
5:43 PM - Pocket: lol
5:43 PM - Pocket: i got all your confessions
5:43 PM - Pocket: and will file them appropiate
5:43 PM - Hans: they are jokes, child
5:44 PM - Pocket: dont blame me
5:44 PM - Pocket: blame yourself
5:44 PM - Pocket: yourselves
5:44 PM - Hans: ok, ill be waiting for my ban
5:44 PM - Pocket: its plural
5:44 PM - Hans: ill be sure to thank you
5:44 PM - Toxic: also mine and callum.
5:44 PM - Hans: O, great pocket
5:44 PM - Pocket: lol
5:44 PM - Pocket: yep
5:44 PM - Pocket: dude
5:44 PM - Pocket: i'm not a god
5:44 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: what
5:44 PM - .:♠CallumRaggo6♠:.: i was playing gmod :P
5:44 PM - Hans: lol
5:45 PM - Toxic: what if you are though
5:45 PM - Pocket: am i?
5:45 PM - Toxic: nop
5:45 PM - Pocket: i dont think so
5:45 PM - Toxic: your just a kid on the internet like us
5:45 PM - Pocket: god would not have made you angry in the first place
5:45 PM - Hans: im not mad im laughing my ss off
5:45 PM - Hans: *ass
5:46 PM - Pocket: i hope you are
5:46 PM - Pocket: i'm trying to be a comedian when i pass highschool
5:46 PM - Hans: good for you