[09:43] hi [09:43] how are you [09:43] lets be clear [09:43] i voted for you [09:43] because you are not contributing [09:43] over a long period of time [09:43] and i think you are just trying to ride through [09:43] and hope ppl call you town [09:43] its general inactivity [09:43] i think thats scummy [09:43] yes [09:43] i know you are capable of more [09:44] how does that indicate my alignment? [09:44] and you arent doing it unless prompted [09:44] you realize [09:44] lynching matters at this point [09:44] and pressure votes aren't good [09:44] at this point [09:44] ive been busy [09:44] on my phone [09:44] i havevnt ben on irc [09:44] this the first time ive been at a computer [09:44] yeah.. but.. even on phone you can still post [09:44] in about 4 ays [09:44] all you did is troll post yesterday [09:45] yes lynching matters [09:45] who said its a pressure vote [09:45] its an intention to lynch [09:45] because no one was providing substance [09:45] i havent been in conctact with anyone [09:45] since the last time we talked [09:45] ok ok [09:45] if you base readsd off the thread [09:45] right now [09:45] lets pretend we let the inactivity slide [09:45] i have zero clue [09:45] who your scum reads are [09:45] there is no way youd reach the conclusions that you are doing [09:45] im working off te votes i see [09:46] if i based reads off the thread. you are definitely suspcious [09:46] and the interactions i see [09:46] you never responded to the issues with your last big post [09:46] e.g. its not even clera why you dropped your mayor campaign to vote BC [09:46] there are people that you are ignoring who seem to be in my shoes [09:46] hmm. im listening [09:46] inactivity [09:46] ok [09:46] skanjab [09:46] has been in real contact [09:46] with any of you? [09:46] dont give me [09:46] some BH circle stuff [09:47] i feel like im the only one he has not mentioned [09:47] have YOU been in conctact with him [09:47] coagulation as well [09:47] is getting a bye because he does this [09:47] and i typically do not? [09:48] skanjab is someone im watching carefully [09:48] but he has signfiicantly mroe activity than you do over the psat 72hrs [09:48] ok so then you are talking to him? [09:48] caog is certianly not getting a bye [09:48] to answer your question... no. i am not talking to him outside the thread [09:48] maybe but his posts are not content filled [09:48] im willing to hear you out [09:49] go on [09:49] keep in mind [09:49] i cant access the thread cos of firewall [09:49] ill look at him for you but i dont think you should ignore him [09:49] so you may have to copy/paste relevant snippets [09:49] ok [09:49] nono.. dont look at him for me [09:49] you said hes suspcious [09:49] detail it [09:49] i dont see explanatons for his reads [09:49] for example... [09:50] give me a second [09:50] kk [09:50] sorry, i keep interjecting [09:50] it feels like you making blunt statements and want me to fill in the gap [09:50] i want it all from you; and then me to say at the end.. i agree or i disagree [09:53] the only person he gives reasons on is you [09:53] i missed his case on you [09:53] but he has no one else on his radar [09:53] i thought he called me mafia but he was just calling me stupid [09:54] ok; but that is still more than what you have done/ [09:54] in the same time period [09:55] ok. sorry i shouldnt be snide [09:55] see but hes around [09:55] so these reasons fro me being scum [09:55] i havent been [09:55] what do you think of them. considering you felt the same way [09:55] yeah [09:55] or feel.. i dont even know [09:55] i probably misread some things [09:55] hes focuse on you [09:55] even thought im suspicious of you [09:55] i dont concentrate on just one person [09:56] do i have permission to summarise? [09:56] i take it groups [09:56] yes/no? [09:56] summarise what? [09:56] ok [09:56] hear me out [09:56] (1) Bum finds skanjab suspicious [09:56] (2) Bum reads skanjab filter [09:56] (3) Bum says i misinterpreted him [09:57] 4? [09:57] Mocsta is thinking.. if i asked you for a scum read.. why are you giving me a name thats not even processed by you [09:57] like.. what is your "revised" read on skanjab post-skim [09:57] its a gut read i havent tried to make a case on him [09:57] its just what i see from the thread [09:57] that he focused alot on you [09:57] e did give reasons though [09:57] that i ont remember reading [09:58] you should talk to skanjabs then [09:58] you guys seem to be ok with reading each other 1 on 1 [09:58] what does that mean? [09:58] reading each other 1 on 1? [09:58] i dont think i can do that as well [09:58] i ahvent talked to him outside the thread [09:58] like right now [09:59] ohhh [09:59] but i should [09:59] im not asking you to make a case on skanjab [09:59] im asking you to define your gut read [09:59] i rembmer him looking bad [09:59] and when you tried to substantiate, you basically recanted the gut read (in my opinion) [09:59] tkeeping an update on my phone [09:59] i dont like his posts [09:59] tell me otherwise, if its so [09:59] what does that mean.. [09:59] i dont like your posts... [09:59] no [09:59] you told me "whast teh scum motive" [09:59] you said you dont like my inactivity [09:59] im returning the favour [10:00] well i dont like the posts either [10:00] but i cant update what posts i dont like. cos you arent making any [10:00] well what is skanjabs motive? [10:00] is it to hunt scum? [10:00] thats for YOU to tell me [10:00] or to lynch mocsta? [10:00] well. its to lynch mocsta [10:00] do you think im doing that? [10:00] or something similar? [10:00] i can agree with that [10:01] I've tried to get objective reads [10:01] on the information i ave [10:01] ok.. Bum. riddle me this [10:01] lets talk about another [10:01] grack [10:01] ok.. you beat me to it [10:01] not grack. just another read in general [10:01] yes pls. go on [10:02] hes been active correct? [10:02] i see confident active posting [10:02] in the threa [10:02] i see reads [10:03] but other then general one line bits [10:03] he doesnt seem to base it on anything solid [10:03] hes probably active in PMs [10:04] but don't get where he is a town read to most everyone else [10:05] its demotivated posting [10:07] I had reads pretty similar to kush, and he seeme to be in a similar scenario where he wasnt talking to too many people outside of the thread [10:07] he came up with some silly reason why skan was town i felt [10:07] but i think kush was based because he thought you were scum as well [10:07] thats what it seems like [10:07] reading the thread is so much easier on a computer lol [10:09] Slam an coag [10:09] i dont have much [10:09] but either one or both are mafia [10:09] has slam said what he was roleblocked for? [10:10] i dont know anything about the night actions so what i see is what i get [10:11] sorry, was doing work stuff [10:11] about to read ya stuff now [10:11] hmmmm... [10:11] bum tell me [10:11] do you bus as scum? [10:12] if it suits me [10:12] hypothetically, if you are both scum. Is the scenario suitable now? [10:12] it really depends on the situation [10:12] hmmm [10:12] who? [10:12] how do you know hes demotivated? [10:12] grack [10:12] i dont see much in his posting that says otherwise [10:12] so you dont think skanjab was +1'n kush? [10:13] see that where i cant get a solid rea [10:13] if people are tlaking oustide of the thread [10:13] and going back to grack... hes confident active posting.. hes giving reads... hes apparently still demotivated [10:13] whats the actual issue you have at hand? [10:13] i think kush being dead means he threatening [10:13] or a blue read [10:13] i dont know [10:14] there isnt enough content to his posts [10:14] to be that sure [10:14] is he typically this big of an ego? [10:14] ok [10:14] bum [10:14] im prejudice against you [10:14] but im actually trying to be fair here [10:14] fair enough [10:14] and listen and engage [10:14] because i dont want to mislynch if i cna avoid it [10:14] now [10:14] obvously [10:14] lokoing back through this convo [10:14] you raise names [10:14] raise superficial issues [10:15] but you never explain why its scummy [10:15] then when i push for this info [10:15] you shudder [10:15] what do you mean superficial? [10:15] superficial. surface deep [10:15] THAT ALL I HAVE TO GO ON [10:15] you are skimming ppl NITPICKING things you dont like [10:15] i havent talked with these people [10:15] thats scummy [10:15] at all [10:15] you are scum [10:15] SCUM SCUM SCUM [10:15] :) [10:15] im standing outside of this game [10:15] ok thats out of my system [10:15] looking in [10:15] lol [10:15] why do you need to talk to these people [10:15] they have put their thoughts into the thread? [10:16] because apparently thatswo people are developing reads [10:16] perfect exmaple, skanjab [10:16] hes made a case on me [10:16] have you read it [10:16] you said before you didnt [10:16] maybe you should read it [10:16] and give me an opinion on skanjab alignment [10:16] he has to be talking to others if anyone can get a town read on him [10:16] after all, cases say more about the maker than the target [10:16] i saw it just now [10:16] why? [10:16] because nothing in the thread is indicative of him being town [10:16] the votes [10:17] his one scum read [10:17] and his prescence in the thread [10:17] again. i dont have access to the thread [10:17] prove to me your examples [10:17] cos i cant double check them [10:17] ok who did he vote for? [10:17] skanjab [10:17] BC [10:17] i thoguht? [10:17] the mayor race did not matter [10:17] and last cycle. i dunno if he voted balla [10:17] but YOU prematurely hammered [10:17] all the people put forward were town [10:17] actually [10:17] exaplin to me why you hammered [10:17] he didnt [10:17] he was there [10:17] because i thoguht balla was scum [10:17] yeah. so what [10:18] it wasnt in our favour to early hammer [10:18] so ok [10:18] basically. *YOU* prevented balla from talking further.. [10:18] its great he flipped [10:18] but that information was denied [10:18] meh [10:18] like. i dont recall balla being an issue for you in our talks, or the thread [10:18] and suddenly you hammer him? [10:18] i dodnt know how you want me to respond to that? [10:19] do you think thats really that bad? [10:19] hmmm [10:19] to hammer? [10:19] ermm no [10:19] i gues this goes no where [10:19] you cant say i didnt read balla [10:19] when you get time [10:19] read my flter again [10:19] because you are defintely basing your read [10:19] off nothing i have said in the thread [10:20] ok bum.. heres the situation [10:20] there is a cricle of ppl [10:20] there thoughts arent ALWAYS in the thread. but we all have a rough idea of what each other is thnking [10:20] ie been told [10:20] in most cases more than rough [10:20] then theres a left over group of ppl , that arent in pm-land or thread-land [10:20] 3 examples are you, skanjab, coag [10:21] and do you think thats it? [10:21] now.. maybe its not CONCLUSIVELY scummy to not be posting [10:21] that no one you are in contact with is scum? [10:21] However; all you keep telling me is [10:21] i cant give a good read on player XYZ cos they arent tlaking [10:21] how about this [10:21] have you tried to initiate convo? [10:21] which you realize [10:21] tis is the first chance [10:21] ive gotten [10:21] but you were online yesterday trolling [10:21] like this past hour [10:22] why didnt you PM anyone? [10:22] i was on my phone saying whatever [10:22] i did lol [10:22] WHO? [10:22] i tol grack i thought he was scum [10:22] he said "lol ok" [10:22] ok.. lets work with this [10:22] yesterday you thought grack was scum [10:22] in the thread [10:22] hes purused oats and outted the OMGUS alliance [10:22] thoughts on the motive behind this? [10:23] i dont know what the omgus alliance is [10:23] i thought he was talking about the term? [10:23] an is oats part of a circle? [10:23] im not in a position to disclose that information bum [10:24] why should that change anything if he was or was not./ [10:25] because i dont hae a read on him [10:25] so again [10:25] i hae to assume [10:25] he talking to others [10:25] i basically thought he was town because grack said he was scum [10:25] but that coul be wrong [10:25] who knows [10:26] ok so again in summary [10:26] you have no reads on anyone, because you need to talk to ppl 1 on 1 [10:26] whats your read on me bum [10:26] no id rather get my reads from the thread [10:26] since i seem to be the only person you have been talking to 1on 1 [10:26] where i ve been [10:26] OMG... from the thread [10:26] your probably town [10:26] but you arent identifying scum motive [10:26] wtf.. [10:26] because of the balla thing [10:27] balla thing? what balla thing? [10:27] ..... [10:27] talk now [10:27] the lynch [10:27] ohhh [10:27] is that it? [10:27] you were the one who started it [10:27] it would be pretty bold of you [10:27] ?? BH voted first [10:27] this sounds pretty token to me bum [10:27] to just bring scum up out of no where [10:27] oh [10:27] i probably misread that [10:28] hmmmm [10:28] look im coming back to the game with a lot of pieces missing [10:28] this is my reintroduction [10:28] Bum, this is what im going to do [10:28] i appreciate you talking to me about everything [10:28] give you benefit of the doubt to offiically catch up over 12-24hrs [10:28] iknow its night time for ya [10:28] im going to post these logs in the thread so other ppl realise how scummy you are [10:28] ok [10:28] and im going to give you an opportunity to prove your townieness if it exists [10:28] im ok with that [10:29] wait [10:29] you tink these logs [10:29] are scummy? [10:29] yesi do [10:29] ... [10:29] because i havent been here [10:29] i think you are hiding from being accountable for your reads [10:29] and i dont have proper information? [10:29] i cant prove it because clearly you are not offering to be accountable [10:29] at this stage in the game [10:29] i think that is scummy [10:29] thats ok for an opinion for you to have [10:29] but that doesnt make it universally ba [10:30] it doesnt matter what im accountable for [10:30] you need to judge my alignmment not retributon because i havent been around [10:30] nah you twisting things [10:30] its got nothing to do *now* with not being around [10:30] you told me skanjab + grack are scummy [10:30] i think we are one talking you dont have a mindset to see me unbiasedly [10:31] you ignore coag [10:31] havnet said anything on oats [10:31] you think im town for a token reason [10:31] and regarding skanjab you retracted it once you read his filter [10:31] so [10:31] you think coag is scum? [10:31] yes [10:31] based off what [10:31] meta [10:31] him not talking? [10:31] correct [10:31] ok [10:31] coag's meta? [10:31] that was strong [10:31] i dont think coag *IS* scum [10:31] i think he is *LIKELY* scum [10:32] and im prepared to mislynch him [10:32] because town shouldnt have to go to MYLO with him as a player [10:32] i never gave you what i thought on him? [10:32] i wouldnt lynch him today [10:32] you said hes unreadable above [10:32] soooo [10:32] then you think he is scum [10:32] do you have a solid read [10:32] on anyone? [10:33]