[2013-02-16 15:04:17] <Jirachee> workshop pls
[2013-02-16 15:04:18] <penguinx> 9.9
[2013-02-16 15:04:22] <penguinx> fuq off
[2013-02-16 15:04:25] <TCD> hi
[2013-02-16 15:04:25] <Funkasaurus> lol
[2013-02-16 15:04:31] <Honus> u nigga
[2013-02-16 15:04:36] <ium> ok
[2013-02-16 15:04:37] <ium> let's rate
[2013-02-16 15:04:38] <ium> an nu team
[2013-02-16 15:04:40] <Jirachee> n
[2013-02-16 15:04:41] <ficcion> no
[2013-02-16 15:04:42] <ium> then
[2013-02-16 15:04:43] <ium> dont
[2013-02-16 15:04:43] <Honus> lets rate ium
[2013-02-16 15:04:46] <Honus> ^o^
[2013-02-16 15:04:47] <ium> highlight me fat man jirachi
[2013-02-16 15:04:49] <ium> >:|
[2013-02-16 15:04:50] <ium> i am
[2013-02-16 15:04:51] <Funkasaurus> ium is a 4/10
[2013-02-16 15:04:52] <Jirachee> >:(
[2013-02-16 15:04:52] <ium> useless otherwise
[2013-02-16 15:04:57] <ium> funkasarusu is a :| / 10
[2013-02-16 15:04:59] <Honus> ium made a lickilicky picture
[2013-02-16 15:05:00] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> How about this team: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479119
[2013-02-16 15:05:02] <ium> funkasaurus*
[2013-02-16 15:05:03] <Honus> 14/10
[2013-02-16 15:05:05] <Honus> ez mash
[2013-02-16 15:05:09] <ium> karpman is a 9.9/10
[2013-02-16 15:05:21] <ium> 9.9
[2013-02-16 15:05:22] <Honus> 9.9
[2013-02-16 15:05:46] <Jirachee> ok so anyone wants a team to be rated
[2013-02-16 15:05:49] <ium> ok
[2013-02-16 15:05:51] <ium> rate
[2013-02-16 15:05:52] <ium> my nu team
[2013-02-16 15:05:53] <ium> before it dies
[2013-02-16 15:05:58] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> How about this team: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479119
[2013-02-16 15:06:06] <Honus> lots of gifs/10
[2013-02-16 15:06:22] <ium> jirachee http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3478886
[2013-02-16 15:06:23] <ium> y/y
[2013-02-16 15:06:27] <Honus> but i looked at it and it seems a bit volc weak, he'd probably want to put a scarf on either lando or kelder
[2013-02-16 15:06:31] <Jirachee> n
[2013-02-16 15:06:32] <Honus> and then unscarf or i guess keep tar
[2013-02-16 15:06:44] <ium> :|
[2013-02-16 15:06:45] <Honus> ium the logo is rad
[2013-02-16 15:06:47] <Jirachee> ok let's rate the team tnt linked
[2013-02-16 15:06:50] <Honus> :|
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[2013-02-16 15:07:05] <ium> some jirachis just want to watch the world burn
[2013-02-16 15:07:15] <ficcion> yea
[2013-02-16 15:07:16] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Yuss.
[2013-02-16 15:07:27] <BlackRussian> is this the Rate my team workshop?
[2013-02-16 15:07:28] <TGMDoom> laggyass GIFs
[2013-02-16 15:07:34] <Jirachee> yes blackrussian
[2013-02-16 15:07:35] <ium> yes
[2013-02-16 15:07:41] <BlackRussian> ok cool 
[2013-02-16 15:07:53] <Jirachee> do you want a team of yours to be rated?
[2013-02-16 15:07:54] <ium> that's not
[2013-02-16 15:07:55] <Honus> post a team if you want it rated :o
[2013-02-16 15:07:57] <ium> a lot of gifs
[2013-02-16 15:08:00] <ium> you are
[2013-02-16 15:08:00] <ium> silly
[2013-02-16 15:08:01] <BlackRussian> I have one
[2013-02-16 15:08:02] <Honus> theres like 7
[2013-02-16 15:08:07] <ium> 7 isnt bad
[2013-02-16 15:08:09] <ium> :(
[2013-02-16 15:08:09] <Honus> and theyre around the size of a stoutland
[2013-02-16 15:08:16] <ium> jirachee is mean... refuses to r8 mine
[2013-02-16 15:08:17] <Honus> it is when ps has been lagging your computer all day 
[2013-02-16 15:08:18] <ium> u_u
[2013-02-16 15:08:20] <BlackRussian> Do I make a Pastebin for it?
[2013-02-16 15:08:25] <Jirachee> yeah
[2013-02-16 15:08:33] <Jirachee> just pb the importable
[2013-02-16 15:08:34] <TGMDoom> ok that's really laggy
[2013-02-16 15:08:37] <TGMDoom> yeah
[2013-02-16 15:08:58] <BlackRussian> http://mibpaste.com/3eYHiK 
[2013-02-16 15:09:02] <BlackRussian> there
[2013-02-16 15:09:11] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> ium, we can rate your team once joshe's has been rated [i.e. if everyone else approves].
[2013-02-16 15:09:11] <Honus> Woooosh
[2013-02-16 15:09:18] <Jirachee> tnt
[2013-02-16 15:09:22] <Jirachee> ium's team is nu
[2013-02-16 15:09:25] <Jirachee> 9.9
[2013-02-16 15:09:29] <ium> :)
[2013-02-16 15:09:33] <Jirachee> alright so
[2013-02-16 15:09:33] <ium> (:
[2013-02-16 15:09:38] <ium> jirachi has
[2013-02-16 15:09:40] <ium> extensive knowledge
[2013-02-16 15:09:45] <ium> of the tier
[2013-02-16 15:10:12] <Jirachee> Landorus-T / Lucario / Latias / Rotom-W / Heatran / Hydreigon
[2013-02-16 15:10:55] <ficcion> ium i just noticed on ur rmt
[2013-02-16 15:10:58] <ficcion> "costello music"
[2013-02-16 15:10:59] <ficcion> :D
[2013-02-16 15:11:12] <BlackRussian> am I first?
[2013-02-16 15:11:20] <Honus> yea
[2013-02-16 15:11:21] <ium> :O
[2013-02-16 15:11:30] <ficcion> i like that album a lot
[2013-02-16 15:11:38] <Jirachee> honestly
[2013-02-16 15:11:39] <ficcion> cool tunes~
[2013-02-16 15:11:47] <Jirachee> I don't feel like scarf hydreigon
[2013-02-16 15:11:51] <Jirachee> is really effective
[2013-02-16 15:11:57] <BlackRussian> I dont either
[2013-02-16 15:12:01] <Honus> i agree
[2013-02-16 15:12:02] <Jirachee> I think you could really use a faster scarfer
[2013-02-16 15:12:07] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Forum link for BlackRussian's team: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479261
[2013-02-16 15:12:09] <Honus> team seems a bit passive for offense too
[2013-02-16 15:12:10] <TGMDoom> ^
[2013-02-16 15:12:14] <Jirachee> yeah
[2013-02-16 15:12:17] <BlackRussian> I want to change it but idk what to use
[2013-02-16 15:12:35] <Jirachee> you like kinda weak to stuff like
[2013-02-16 15:12:39] <Jirachee> volc+dug
[2013-02-16 15:12:50] <Jirachee> on sun teams
[2013-02-16 15:12:56] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Keldeo seems like a good option for Scarfer. Beats Volc+Dug.
[2013-02-16 15:12:59] <Funkasaurus> jirachee
[2013-02-16 15:13:00] <Funkasaurus> look
[2013-02-16 15:13:00] <Honus> id consider ditching heatran and using a scarfer than can beat volc
[2013-02-16 15:13:02] <Funkasaurus> a workshop
[2013-02-16 15:13:02] <Funkasaurus> !
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[2013-02-16 15:13:06] <Honus> since latias beats every other sun mon
[2013-02-16 15:13:07] <TGMDoom> not under sun
[2013-02-16 15:13:09] <Honus> well not every other
[2013-02-16 15:13:13] <Jirachee> keldeo doesn't really beat volc+dug
[2013-02-16 15:13:26] <TGMDoom> which is where you find vold dug
[2013-02-16 15:13:29] <Jirachee> unless it's rain volc+dug
[2013-02-16 15:13:30] <BlackRussian> Why ditch Heatran?
[2013-02-16 15:13:42] <TGMDoom> and volc somtimes has giga drain so lol
[2013-02-16 15:13:42] <BlackRussian> I needed something to wall Volc
[2013-02-16 15:13:43] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Touche.
[2013-02-16 15:13:54] <Honus> yeah but what else does it do for the team
[2013-02-16 15:14:02] <Honus> plus it kills any momentum really
[2013-02-16 15:14:14] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> IMO, Heatran leaves one massive hole that rain teams can use against you.
[2013-02-16 15:14:19] <BlackRussian> thats true
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[2013-02-16 15:14:26] <Honus> that too
[2013-02-16 15:14:33] <Jirachee> yeah heatran doesn't really help your team
[2013-02-16 15:14:39] <Jirachee> other than taking draco meteors
[2013-02-16 15:14:41] <TGMDoom> I don't like tran as any kind of volc check
[2013-02-16 15:14:49] <TGMDoom> due to hp ground and dug
[2013-02-16 15:14:58] <penguinx> u-turn volc + dug
[2013-02-16 15:14:59] <penguinx> too good
[2013-02-16 15:15:11] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Besides, Volc can run HP Ground, and that's pretty damn common IIRC.
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[2013-02-16 15:15:45] <Porygon2> [BKC] put in position to wage teenage mayhem
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[2013-02-16 15:15:48] <TGMDoom> it is
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[2013-02-16 15:16:21] <BlackRussian> ok so Heatran can be replaced. 
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[2013-02-16 15:16:27] <Jirachee> yea although
[2013-02-16 15:16:29] <BlackRussian> but what to use instead
[2013-02-16 15:16:32] <Jirachee> if you replace heatran
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[2013-02-16 15:16:38] <Honus> maybe something to help luke
[2013-02-16 15:16:42] <Jirachee> you need something that beats special drags
[2013-02-16 15:16:53] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Terrakion can act as a great check to Volc, but again, there's the issue of what to replace. It also serves as a great offensive complement to Luke.
[2013-02-16 15:17:04] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Jirachi beats special drags.
[2013-02-16 15:17:08] <Honus> also dugtrio bai ti guess
[2013-02-16 15:17:10] <Honus> :|
[2013-02-16 15:17:31] <Jirachee> scarf terra works if you're able to keep your rocks on the field
[2013-02-16 15:17:51] <Jirachee> you can use like
[2013-02-16 15:17:58] <Jirachee> scarf terra over hydreigon
[2013-02-16 15:18:11] <Jirachee> you get a much faster scarfer and a volcarona check
[2013-02-16 15:18:21] <BlackRussian> ok Scarf Terrak 
[2013-02-16 15:18:28] <BlackRussian> over hydreigon
[2013-02-16 15:18:37] <Jirachee> and
[2013-02-16 15:18:43] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> He has Landorus-T to set SR up, so Jirachi can run something like Iron Head / BSlam / Wish / U-turn if he wants to use Jirachi in the first place.
[2013-02-16 15:18:51] <Jirachee> you should probably get rid of heatran
[2013-02-16 15:18:52] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Just saying.
[2013-02-16 15:19:02] <Jirachee> idk if jirachi fits the team the best
[2013-02-16 15:19:13] <ficcion> of course u fit
[2013-02-16 15:19:16] <Honus> you might wan tto consider running some form of spikes
[2013-02-16 15:19:24] <Honus> so a hipp0wdon or ttar cant ruin lucarios sweep
[2013-02-16 15:19:31] <Honus> otherwise its usually a cold stop
[2013-02-16 15:19:33] <Honus> scarftar
[2013-02-16 15:19:34] <Honus> that is
[2013-02-16 15:19:38] <Jirachee> yeah
[2013-02-16 15:19:39] <Honus> sorry
[2013-02-16 15:19:46] <Jirachee> scarftar is kinda rare though
[2013-02-16 15:19:48] <Jirachee> but
[2013-02-16 15:19:51] <Honus> or at least some way to pressure those two
[2013-02-16 15:19:54] <TGMDoom> you'd want 2 layers of spikes for hippo
[2013-02-16 15:19:55] <Honus> nah i see it everywhere lol
[2013-02-16 15:19:57] <Honus> im using one
[2013-02-16 15:19:59] <Honus> its owning
[2013-02-16 15:20:07] <TGMDoom> need it under 80% for +2 cc range
[2013-02-16 15:20:19] <Jirachee> for +2 jolly?
[2013-02-16 15:20:21] <Jirachee> or adamant
[2013-02-16 15:20:30] <TGMDoom> adamant
[2013-02-16 15:20:35] <Jirachee> he's jolly luke
[2013-02-16 15:20:38] <Jirachee> .-.
[2013-02-16 15:20:41] <TGMDoom> if it's jolly you'd need all layers,
[2013-02-16 15:20:43] <TGMDoom> iirc
[2013-02-16 15:20:49] <Honus> oh heres an idea
[2013-02-16 15:20:54] <Honus> maybe try a calm mind jirachi
[2013-02-16 15:21:10] <Honus> it works cooepratively with lucarioa gainst hippowdon
[2013-02-16 15:21:12] <Honus> against*
[2013-02-16 15:21:15] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> WishCM, or SubCM?
[2013-02-16 15:21:23] <BKC> superachi
[2013-02-16 15:21:25] <BKC> with grass knot
[2013-02-16 15:21:31] <BKC> if you want to beat up hippowdon
[2013-02-16 15:21:31] <Jirachee> yeah superachi is great
[2013-02-16 15:21:33] <Honus> that would be rad actually
[2013-02-16 15:21:34] <BlackRussian> hold on lost
[2013-02-16 15:21:35] <BKC> wishcm or subcm jira
[2013-02-16 15:21:39] <BlackRussian> im lost 
[2013-02-16 15:21:40] <BKC> just outright lose
[2013-02-16 15:21:56] <Jirachee> another thing that could be used
[2013-02-16 15:21:59] <Jirachee> is pivot scizor
[2013-02-16 15:22:00] <BlackRussian> I looked away for a sec now im behind
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[2013-02-16 15:22:06] <BlackRussian> what did I miss
[2013-02-16 15:22:14] <Jirachee> we were discussing
[2013-02-16 15:22:18] <Jirachee> what you should use
[2013-02-16 15:22:21] <Jirachee> instead of heatran
[2013-02-16 15:22:26] <BlackRussian> oh ok
[2013-02-16 15:22:29] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> @BlackRussian: We're looking into Heatran replacements.
[2013-02-16 15:22:35] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Oh, ninja'd.
[2013-02-16 15:22:38] <BlackRussian> so Terrakion is good over Hydreigon?
[2013-02-16 15:22:41] <Jirachee> yep
[2013-02-16 15:22:47] <BlackRussian> what moveset?
[2013-02-16 15:22:52] <Jirachee> scarf
[2013-02-16 15:22:56] <BlackRussian> the smogon one?
[2013-02-16 15:23:02] <Jirachee> yea
[2013-02-16 15:23:06] <BlackRussian> ok
[2013-02-16 15:23:19] <Jirachee> with cc se x-s rs
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[2013-02-16 15:23:58] <Jirachee> so
[2013-02-16 15:24:05] <Jirachee> about the heatran replacement
[2013-02-16 15:24:15] <Jirachee> it needs to beat special dragons
[2013-02-16 15:24:27] <Jirachee> cm rachi looks nice
[2013-02-16 15:24:42] <Jirachee> but I think pivot scizor could fit too
[2013-02-16 15:24:59] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> BKC's Superachi looks cool.
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[2013-02-16 15:26:05] <Jirachee> ok then
[2013-02-16 15:26:09] <Jirachee> jirachi it is
[2013-02-16 15:26:17] <BlackRussian> so Cm Jirachi?
[2013-02-16 15:26:21] <Jirachee> yea
[2013-02-16 15:26:28] <Jirachee> use
[2013-02-16 15:26:37] <Jirachee> cm psychic hp fire grass knot
[2013-02-16 15:26:46] <BlackRussian> what EV's?
[2013-02-16 15:27:12] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[2013-02-16 15:27:14] <Jirachee> modest leftovers with enough speed to outspeed max speed toxicroak
[2013-02-16 15:27:21] <Jirachee> so 295 speed
[2013-02-16 15:27:23] <Jirachee> stat
[2013-02-16 15:27:42] <BlackRussian> ok makes sense
[2013-02-16 15:27:47] <Cow_Moolester> dont listen to jirachee
[2013-02-16 15:27:50] <Cow_Moolester> he roots for the mtl canadiens
[2013-02-16 15:27:54] <BlackRussian> so the rest of the is solid
[2013-02-16 15:27:57] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +b *!*@synIRC-34576B83.bstnma.fios.verizon.net by Jirachee
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[2013-02-16 15:28:04] <ficcion> lol
[2013-02-16 15:28:05] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Oh. Personally, I think that max / max is the way to go. I'll pull some EVs up.
[2013-02-16 15:28:11] <Honus> who is/was that user
[2013-02-16 15:28:15] <Jirachee> s_l
[2013-02-16 15:28:19] <Honus> ah
[2013-02-16 15:28:21] <Honus> sup bro
[2013-02-16 15:28:24] <Jirachee> nm bro u
[2013-02-16 15:28:25] <ficcion> nm bro u
[2013-02-16 15:28:44] <Jayde> nm bro u
[2013-02-16 15:28:47] <Jirachee> ok
[2013-02-16 15:28:58] <Jirachee> the rest of the team looks nice
[2013-02-16 15:29:04] <Honus> yes :D
[2013-02-16 15:29:08] <BlackRussian> ok cool
[2013-02-16 15:29:16] <Honus> one thing though
[2013-02-16 15:29:23] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> BlackRussian, here's an EV spread that you should use for Jirachi: 12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe Modest.
[2013-02-16 15:29:25] <Honus> what are you trying to accomplish specifically with latias?
[2013-02-16 15:29:34] <BlackRussian> were you looking at the pastebin or the RMT?
[2013-02-16 15:29:39] <Honus> pb
[2013-02-16 15:29:40] <Jirachee> pb
[2013-02-16 15:29:40] <Honus> sorry
[2013-02-16 15:29:44] <BlackRussian> ok good
[2013-02-16 15:29:55] <BlackRussian> cuz thats the up to date one
[2013-02-16 15:29:59] <Honus> i guess i can see the merit sof thunder wave but are there any mons its hitting specifically?
[2013-02-16 15:30:05] <Honus> otherwise you may want to try the dmeteor lo one
[2013-02-16 15:30:13] <Honus> has a lot more offensive presence
[2013-02-16 15:30:15] <Jirachee> yeah
[2013-02-16 15:30:17] <Honus> also nukes hippos
[2013-02-16 15:30:20] <Honus> ttars too i guess
[2013-02-16 15:30:21] <Honus> ;o
[2013-02-16 15:30:23] <Jirachee> n
[2013-02-16 15:30:27] <Jirachee> you lose to tar
[2013-02-16 15:30:38] <Honus> still dents
[2013-02-16 15:30:40] <Honus> w/ surf
[2013-02-16 15:30:41] <Jirachee> yea
[2013-02-16 15:30:43] <BlackRussian> Latias was bait for TTar
[2013-02-16 15:30:55] <BlackRussian> so I can send in Luke to set u
[2013-02-16 15:30:55] <Honus> ah
[2013-02-16 15:30:56] <BlackRussian> up*
[2013-02-16 15:31:07] <Honus> well i think you might want to try out th elo attacker set
[2013-02-16 15:31:08] <Honus> on the site
[2013-02-16 15:31:23] <BlackRussian> for Latias?
[2013-02-16 15:31:23] <Honus> its pretty po_owerful
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[2013-02-16 15:31:25] <Honus> yeah
[2013-02-16 15:31:42] <BlackRussian> all right ill give it look and try it out
[2013-02-16 15:32:25] <BlackRussian> Jirachi: 12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe Modest or 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe 
[2013-02-16 15:32:40] <Jirachee> you don't really need max speed
[2013-02-16 15:32:56] <Jirachee> nothing runs base 100 252 neutral
[2013-02-16 15:33:23] <BlackRussian> so which spread?
[2013-02-16 15:33:42] <Jirachee> 244 spe
[2013-02-16 15:33:56] <BlackRussian> ok cool
[2013-02-16 15:34:06] <BlackRussian> thanks ill test the team now
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[2013-02-16 15:34:31] <Jirachee> anyone got another team to be rated?
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[2013-02-16 15:35:27] <TGMDoom> sorry I went afk there for a bit
[2013-02-16 15:35:37] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Hey, can someone keep me up to date with what we're rating?
[2013-02-16 15:35:39] <TGMDoom> ctc was taking down taylor for spl
[2013-02-16 15:35:57] <Jirachee> tnt we don't have a team yet
[2013-02-16 15:36:01] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> My laptop decided to spaz out for a second. Okay, thanks.
[2013-02-16 15:36:02] <BlackRussian> we just finished with my team
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[2013-02-16 15:36:22] <Jirachee> we can rate this one I guess
[2013-02-16 15:36:23] <Jirachee> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479299
[2013-02-16 15:36:25] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Cool.
[2013-02-16 15:37:24] <Jirachee> deo-d / gengar / luke / loom / jolteon / terra
[2013-02-16 15:37:29] <Jirachee> ok so
[2013-02-16 15:37:31] <Jirachee> this team
[2013-02-16 15:37:33] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Timid w/ 0 Attack IVs > Jolly on Deo-D should be the first change.
[2013-02-16 15:37:40] <Jirachee> gets raped by starmie
[2013-02-16 15:37:44] <TGMDoom> is the guy that made the team here?
[2013-02-16 15:37:48] <Jirachee> n
[2013-02-16 15:37:50] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> No.
[2013-02-16 15:37:58] <Jirachee> starmie fucks that team so bad
[2013-02-16 15:38:05] <Jirachee> it spins easily
[2013-02-16 15:38:09] <Honus> sun and rain teams
[2013-02-16 15:38:15] <Honus> drop enormous mixtapes on it
[2013-02-16 15:38:16] <Jirachee> and actually checks 5/6 of his mons
[2013-02-16 15:38:16] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Modest Volc ruins him.
[2013-02-16 15:38:19] <Honus> politoed specs hpump spam
[2013-02-16 15:38:22] <Honus> volcaronas
[2013-02-16 15:38:24] <Honus> victinis
[2013-02-16 15:38:24] <Honus> etc
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[2013-02-16 15:38:41] <TGMDoom> he has nothing for volc
[2013-02-16 15:38:45] <TGMDoom> o wow lag lol
[2013-02-16 15:38:46] <Leftiez> Honus :DDD
[2013-02-16 15:38:53] <Honus> Leftiez :D
[2013-02-16 15:38:56] <Honus> the boss rater
[2013-02-16 15:39:00] <TGMDoom> flimsy ass water resist
[2013-02-16 15:39:03] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Scarfing Terrakion alleviates the Volc problem.
[2013-02-16 15:39:05] <Leftiez> yere
[2013-02-16 15:39:08] <Honus> but some significant changes will be made to this team
[2013-02-16 15:39:13] <Honus> if it wants to function well
[2013-02-16 15:39:18] <BlackRussian> brb 
[2013-02-16 15:39:22] <Jirachee> I think that starmie is the biggest issue to this team
[2013-02-16 15:39:23] <Honus> i think dealing with weather offense
[2013-02-16 15:39:24] <Jirachee> honestly
[2013-02-16 15:39:26] <Honus> is probably the first
[2013-02-16 15:39:26] <Jirachee> it just
[2013-02-16 15:39:31] <Jirachee> fucks him
[2013-02-16 15:39:33] <Jirachee> so bad
[2013-02-16 15:39:43] <Honus> a lot of mons do that jira,,,
[2013-02-16 15:39:48] <Jirachee> If I had this team vs starm
[2013-02-16 15:39:49] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Jirachee, offensive LO Volc is his largest problem.
[2013-02-16 15:39:53] <Jirachee> might as well wuit
[2013-02-16 15:39:58] <TGMDoom> this team hase too many wekanesses
[2013-02-16 15:40:01] <Jirachee> the thing is
[2013-02-16 15:40:01] <Honus> ye
[2013-02-16 15:40:04] <Honus> im not sure if
[2013-02-16 15:40:06] <Jirachee> offensive lo volc
[2013-02-16 15:40:10] <Honus> its worth rating without changing significantly
[2013-02-16 15:40:13] <Jirachee> is much less common
[2013-02-16 15:40:13] <Jirachee> lol
[2013-02-16 15:40:20] <Honus> it seems like he just slapped mons on there 
[2013-02-16 15:40:27] <Honus> which obviously is fine
[2013-02-16 15:40:39] <Honus> but yeah im not sure if progress can be made here
[2013-02-16 15:40:57] <Jirachee> hm
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[2013-02-16 15:41:01] <Jirachee> I think it's fixable
[2013-02-16 15:41:07] <TGMDoom> rate something else imo
[2013-02-16 15:41:09] <Honus> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479223
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[2013-02-16 15:41:11] <Porygon2> [BKC] put in position to wage teenage mayhem
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[2013-02-16 15:41:12] <Honus> maybe zeishins team
[2013-02-16 15:41:15] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Jolteon looks to be the least useful member on his team IMO.
[2013-02-16 15:41:28] <Honus> yeah
[2013-02-16 15:41:31] <Honus> as a very basic change
[2013-02-16 15:41:36] <Jirachee> he could use like
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[2013-02-16 15:41:37] <Honus> rotom-w>jolteon
[2013-02-16 15:41:52] <Jirachee> dragonite somewhere
[2013-02-16 15:42:00] <Jirachee> which helps him vs all weathers
[2013-02-16 15:42:03] <TGMDoom> sdef with twave could work
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[2013-02-16 15:42:11] <Jirachee> and is generally good on offense
[2013-02-16 15:42:13] <Jirachee> meh
[2013-02-16 15:42:19] <Jirachee> sdef rotom-w on deo-d
[2013-02-16 15:42:23] <TGMDoom> but then again this is ho
[2013-02-16 15:42:24] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> DNite > Lucario y/y
[2013-02-16 15:42:54] <Jirachee> hm
[2013-02-16 15:43:04] <TGMDoom> hm
[2013-02-16 15:43:07] <DTC> the formatting 9.9
[2013-02-16 15:43:16] <Jirachee> why not just
[2013-02-16 15:43:20] <Jirachee> get rid of jolteon
[2013-02-16 15:43:27] <TGMDoom> rocks :(
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[2013-02-16 15:43:49] <Jirachee> he has magic coat deo-d :o
[2013-02-16 15:44:08] <TGMDoom> ik but js
[2013-02-16 15:44:28] <TGMDoom> for the most part that should work fine
[2013-02-16 15:44:33] <Jirachee> yeah
[2013-02-16 15:44:40] <Jirachee> standard dd lum nite
[2013-02-16 15:44:54] <TGMDoom> bit weaker to like rak though
[2013-02-16 15:45:09] <Jirachee> yeah
[2013-02-16 15:45:11] <Jirachee> but
[2013-02-16 15:45:14] <Jirachee> he does has loomer
[2013-02-16 15:45:21] <Jirachee> to deal w/ terra
[2013-02-16 15:45:34] <Jirachee> and it's not like jolteon was really good against terra lol
[2013-02-16 15:45:42] <Jirachee> he also has bp luke
[2013-02-16 15:46:09] <TGMDoom> oh I thought we were still nite > luke
[2013-02-16 15:46:09] <TGMDoom> woops lol
[2013-02-16 15:46:18] <Jirachee> lol
[2013-02-16 15:46:32] <Jirachee> jolteon is just useless on that team imo
[2013-02-16 15:46:46] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> So, we're replacing Jolty with DNite?
[2013-02-16 15:47:00] <Jirachee> yea
[2013-02-16 15:47:04] <Jirachee> but then again
[2013-02-16 15:47:15] <Jirachee> he still has nothing vs starmie
[2013-02-16 15:47:22] <TGMDoom> still weak af to starm
[2013-02-16 15:47:27] <TGMDoom> fucking ninja lol
[2013-02-16 15:47:39] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Aight, that's a good first step. Leaves him weaker v. Starmie, which could be helped ever so slightly by Scarfing Rakion.
[2013-02-16 15:47:40] <Jirachee> he could use weavile somewhere I guess
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[2013-02-16 15:47:46] <Honus> rotom-w>jolt imo
[2013-02-16 15:48:20] <Jirachee> with weavile you ca go to gengar vs starmie
[2013-02-16 15:48:25] <Jirachee> and if it spins you block it
[2013-02-16 15:48:38] <Honus> or throw a latios or somethin on here
[2013-02-16 15:48:40] <Jirachee> if it decides to kill gengar you can pursuit it afterwards
[2013-02-16 15:49:23] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> With Jolteon gone, Lucario seems like the next most replaceable member. Weavile appears to be the best replacement. You're getting most of the same weaknesses, alongside a check for Starmie.
[2013-02-16 15:49:49] <Jirachee> yeah either terra on luke can be replaced
[2013-02-16 15:50:00] <Jirachee> honestly I don't think r-w really fits this team well
[2013-02-16 15:50:23] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> I personally would like to keep Terrakion and turn it into a SubSD set.
[2013-02-16 15:51:03] <Jirachee> hm
[2013-02-16 15:51:05] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Lucario can go.
[2013-02-16 15:51:46] <Jirachee> that works I guess
[2013-02-16 15:52:01] <Jirachee> so with the changes it becomes
[2013-02-16 15:52:02] <TGMDoom> mhm
[2013-02-16 15:52:30] <Jirachee> deo-d / gengar / weavile / dnite / breloom / terra
[2013-02-16 15:52:30] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Deo-D / Geng / Weavile / Loom / DNite / Rakion
[2013-02-16 15:52:56] <Jirachee> that looks like an okay team
[2013-02-16 15:53:09] <TGMDoom> lol
[2013-02-16 15:53:15] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Ninja'd Jirachee. What does everyone else think?
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[2013-02-16 15:54:05] <Jirachee> so
[2013-02-16 15:54:07] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> About the changes, that is.
[2013-02-16 15:54:13] <Jirachee> the changes
[2013-02-16 15:54:23] <TGMDoom> looks good
[2013-02-16 15:54:28] <Jirachee> Jolteon ---> Standard DD Lum Dnite
[2013-02-16 15:54:36] <TGMDoom> triple priority is great
[2013-02-16 15:54:43] <Jirachee> Lucario ---> a random LO Weavile
[2013-02-16 15:55:02] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Double Dance Terrakion ====> SubSD Terrakion?
[2013-02-16 15:55:04] <Jirachee> double dance terra ---> SubSD
[2013-02-16 15:55:16] <Jirachee> alright that looks good
[2013-02-16 15:55:26] <Jirachee> anyone has another team to be rated?
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[2013-02-16 15:55:53] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> We could always rate ium's team, but I lack knowledge of the NU metagame, so I can't help.
[2013-02-16 15:56:17] <Jirachee> heh
[2013-02-16 15:56:22] <Jirachee> no one here
[2013-02-16 15:56:25] <ium> ok
[2013-02-16 15:56:26] <BlackRussian> same 
[2013-02-16 15:56:27] <Jirachee> really rates nu
[2013-02-16 15:56:27] <ium> go go go
[2013-02-16 15:56:30] <ium> y
[2013-02-16 15:56:35] <ium> ok how about
[2013-02-16 15:56:36] <BlackRussian> I can really only kinda do OU
[2013-02-16 15:56:38] <ficcion> ium does
[2013-02-16 15:56:39] <ficcion> !
[2013-02-16 15:56:39] <ium> one of you guys
[2013-02-16 15:56:43] <ium> make your own nu team
[2013-02-16 15:56:45] <ium> and i solo rate
[2013-02-16 15:56:46] <ium> !
[2013-02-16 15:56:50] <Jirachee> 9.9
[2013-02-16 15:56:50] <Funkasaurus> I know how to spice up the chat
[2013-02-16 15:56:52] <TGMDoom> I only ou
[2013-02-16 15:56:54] <ium> :|
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[2013-02-16 15:56:55] <ium> |:
[2013-02-16 15:56:57] <TGMDoom> lol
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[2013-02-16 15:57:05] <Party_Starter> there he is
[2013-02-16 15:57:06] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Is FLCL online?
[2013-02-16 15:57:06] <TGMDoom> :|
[2013-02-16 15:57:07] <Jirachee> !Kb butt
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[2013-02-16 15:57:10] <ium> yea he is
[2013-02-16 15:57:13] <Party_Starter> ugh
[2013-02-16 15:57:14] <Party_Starter> why
[2013-02-16 15:57:20] <Party_Starter> he is a nice butt
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[2013-02-16 15:57:38] <ium> !butt funkasaurus
[2013-02-16 15:57:39] <butt> ium: butt
[2013-02-16 15:57:41] <ium> :|
[2013-02-16 15:57:41] <Party_Starter> leave him alone
[2013-02-16 15:57:46] <Party_Starter> !butt jirachee is a fagger
[2013-02-16 15:57:46] <Jirachee> !kb butt
[2013-02-16 15:57:46] <butt> Party_Starter: jirachee is a fagbutt
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[2013-02-16 15:57:56] <BlackRussian> I can give another one of my teams if we need another
[2013-02-16 15:58:03] <Jirachee> if you want
[2013-02-16 15:58:11] <ium> jirachee this is
[2013-02-16 15:58:14] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Here's a team I was asked to rate: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
[2013-02-16 15:58:16] <ium> discriminating
[2013-02-16 15:58:21] <ium> slander
[2013-02-16 15:58:22] <BlackRussian> lol
[2013-02-16 15:58:22] <ium> imo
[2013-02-16 15:58:28] <Jirachee> oh we can rate that tnt
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[2013-02-16 15:58:34] <Party_Starter> garchomp is not a diva
[2013-02-16 15:58:36] <ium> i am
[2013-02-16 15:58:36] <ium> hated
[2013-02-16 15:58:38] <ium> :'(
[2013-02-16 15:58:38] <Party_Starter> it is a chomper
[2013-02-16 15:58:41] <Party_Starter> I don't hate you ium
[2013-02-16 15:58:42] <Party_Starter> n_n
[2013-02-16 15:58:45] <Jirachee> although
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[2013-02-16 15:58:46] <ium> your opinion doesn't count tho
[2013-02-16 15:58:49] <Jirachee> it does have
[2013-02-16 15:58:51] <Jirachee> infernape
[2013-02-16 15:58:52] <Jirachee> so 9.9
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[2013-02-16 15:58:54] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> I think that I should be the one that picks teams for the RMT workshops.
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[2013-02-16 15:59:00] <ium> n
[2013-02-16 15:59:05] <ium> must be nu team
[2013-02-16 15:59:12] <TGMDoom> infernape a_a
[2013-02-16 15:59:18] <TGMDoom> such a bad mon
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[2013-02-16 15:59:26] <Party_Starter> n_n
[2013-02-16 15:59:31] <TGMDoom> ro jirachee have you seen the warstory in overused?
[2013-02-16 15:59:33] <Jirachee> yeah his scarfer is useless against rain
[2013-02-16 15:59:35] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Who's worse, Infernape or Froslass?
[2013-02-16 15:59:35] <TGMDoom> the ctp one
[2013-02-16 15:59:43] <Jirachee> yeah I saw doom lol
[2013-02-16 15:59:45] <Party_Starter> infernape
[2013-02-16 16:00:01] <TGMDoom> did you see the slops section?
[2013-02-16 16:00:05] <Jirachee> yes
[2013-02-16 16:00:05] <TGMDoom> :]
[2013-02-16 16:00:06] <Jirachee> a_a
[2013-02-16 16:00:11] <ium> there's this team
[2013-02-16 16:00:13] <ium> i dont want to touch because
[2013-02-16 16:00:17] <ium> this guy doesnt want to get rid of
[2013-02-16 16:00:18] <ium> curse golurk
[2013-02-16 16:00:23] <Honus> lol
[2013-02-16 16:00:27] <BlackRussian> lol
[2013-02-16 16:00:27] <TGMDoom> did yo usee how I put you down as my aborted baby
[2013-02-16 16:00:36] <Honus> i remember zeb tried to rate a team and the guy said no
[2013-02-16 16:00:38] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> whatisthisidonteven
[2013-02-16 16:00:45] <Honus> and wouldnt change any pkmn
[2013-02-16 16:00:47] <Party_Starter> [16:00:28] <+Honus> i remember zeb tried to rate a team and the guy said no
[2013-02-16 16:00:50] <Party_Starter> story of my life
[2013-02-16 16:00:59] <BlackRussian> for the team Pirates_vs_Ninjas gave
[2013-02-16 16:01:15] <BlackRussian> I think Froslass can be replaced
[2013-02-16 16:01:17] <Party_Starter> tnt
[2013-02-16 16:01:23] <Party_Starter> why is your irc name so bad
[2013-02-16 16:01:27] <BlackRussian> as well as ape
[2013-02-16 16:01:29] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Hey BlackRussian, just call me TNT. Easier to type.
[2013-02-16 16:01:35] <Party_Starter> tnt
[2013-02-16 16:01:36] <Party_Starter> why is your irc name so bad
[2013-02-16 16:01:37] <BlackRussian> oh 
[2013-02-16 16:01:38] <BlackRussian> ok
[2013-02-16 16:01:41] <BlackRussian> well do
[2013-02-16 16:01:44] <BlackRussian> will *
[2013-02-16 16:01:46] <ium> [16:00:14] <+Honus> i remember zeb tried to rate a team and the guy said no
[2013-02-16 16:01:48] <ium> because
[2013-02-16 16:01:50] <ium> you need to
[2013-02-16 16:01:51] <ium> lov ur pkmn
[2013-02-16 16:01:53] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Also Funk, I forgot the pass to my TNT alt.
[2013-02-16 16:02:00] <Honus> :)!
[2013-02-16 16:02:09] <Party_Starter> irc nicks expire
[2013-02-16 16:02:19] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> I'll check if it's expired now.
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[2013-02-16 16:02:24] <tnt> this isn't registered
[2013-02-16 16:02:24] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Thanks for the tip.
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[2013-02-16 16:02:34] <tnt> gg
[2013-02-16 16:02:36] <tnt> you're a goner
[2013-02-16 16:02:37] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Thanks.
[2013-02-16 16:02:37] <Party_Starter> going for it
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[2013-02-16 16:02:57] <Party_Starter> ium, did you group it
[2013-02-16 16:03:21] <TGMDoom> this isn't
[2013-02-16 16:03:22] <tnt> do you want me to
[2013-02-16 16:03:37] <TGMDoom> the best wrkshop ever
[2013-02-16 16:03:42] <Jirachee> lol
[2013-02-16 16:03:59] <Jirachee> ok so
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[2013-02-16 16:04:05] <Jirachee> for Beautiful Life
[2013-02-16 16:04:09] <Jirachee> he needs to change his scarfer
[2013-02-16 16:04:14] <Jirachee> infernape is just
[2013-02-16 16:04:15] <Jirachee> bad
[2013-02-16 16:04:19] <Party_Starter> the best
[2013-02-16 16:04:28] <BlackRussian> Terrakion over Ape?
[2013-02-16 16:04:30] <Party_Starter> infernape@the.best
[2013-02-16 16:04:31] <TGMDoom> repost team imo
[2013-02-16 16:04:44] <Jirachee> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
[2013-02-16 16:04:45] <skybot> Jirachee: Pirates_vs_Ninjas linked that 6 minutes ago.
[2013-02-16 16:05:01] <Jirachee> !kb skybot
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[2013-02-16 16:05:02] =-= skybot was booted from #ratemyteam by Porygon2 (Requested (Jirachee))
[2013-02-16 16:05:15] <Trinitrotoluene> Alright. Finally got this alt wrested under my control. Terrakion > Infernape IMO.
[2013-02-16 16:05:21] <Party_Starter> jirachee
[2013-02-16 16:05:24] <Party_Starter> I have a query
[2013-02-16 16:05:32] <Jirachee> Hello
[2013-02-16 16:05:35] <Party_Starter> are you a tryanitar baised team builder
[2013-02-16 16:05:53] <Jirachee> KelTar a Tryanitar + Keldeo baised team
[2013-02-16 16:05:54] <Jirachee> ?
[2013-02-16 16:06:02] <Party_Starter> y
[2013-02-16 16:06:11] <Jirachee> lol
[2013-02-16 16:06:13] <Jirachee> anyway
[2013-02-16 16:06:16] <Party_Starter> are you tryanitar baised
[2013-02-16 16:06:22] <Party_Starter> based tyranitar
[2013-02-16 16:06:41] <Honus> lol
[2013-02-16 16:06:44] <Honus> that team is so based
[2013-02-16 16:06:48] <Trinitrotoluene> TTar + Keldeo is cool.
[2013-02-16 16:07:10] <Trinitrotoluene> So, what are we rating now?
[2013-02-16 16:07:19] <Jirachee> beautiful life
[2013-02-16 16:07:32] <BlackRussian> the Beautiful life team 
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[2013-02-16 16:07:49] <jurachee> :|
[2013-02-16 16:07:59] <Jirachee> :|
[2013-02-16 16:08:10] <BlackRussian> IMO I say Scarf Terrakion over Ape
[2013-02-16 16:08:27] <Jirachee> scarf terra works I guess
[2013-02-16 16:08:35] <Trinitrotoluene> Thank you. Also ium, if you want, you can keep the TNT alt.
[2013-02-16 16:08:49] <jurachee> but
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[2013-02-16 16:08:51] <jurachee> i dont need it
[2013-02-16 16:08:53] <jurachee> i have this
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[2013-02-16 16:09:02] <zebraiken> :)
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[2013-02-16 16:09:26] <idumb> n_n
[2013-02-16 16:09:28] <ium> n_n
[2013-02-16 16:09:31] <ium> n_u
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[2013-02-16 16:09:42] =-= mui is now known as Trinitrotoluene
[2013-02-16 16:09:51] <Vrai_Espoir> n_n
[2013-02-16 16:09:54] =-= ium is now known as vrai
[2013-02-16 16:09:55] <TGMDoom> could try scarf land
[2013-02-16 16:09:55] <TGMDoom> for that volturn
[2013-02-16 16:09:55] <vrai> n_n
[2013-02-16 16:10:04] <Jirachee> oh yeah
[2013-02-16 16:10:09] <Jirachee> that's a possibility too
[2013-02-16 16:10:26] <Trinitrotoluene> Landy also gives him another immunity to Spikes.
[2013-02-16 16:10:46] <Funkasaurus> scarf landorus, more like terrible
[2013-02-16 16:10:53] <Vrai_Espoir> lol
[2013-02-16 16:11:02] <Vrai_Espoir> which team is this?
[2013-02-16 16:11:10] <BlackRussian> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
[2013-02-16 16:11:11] <Trinitrotoluene> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
[2013-02-16 16:11:12] <BlackRussian> this one
[2013-02-16 16:11:17] <BlackRussian> ninja'd
[2013-02-16 16:11:23] <Vrai_Espoir> lol
[2013-02-16 16:11:30] <Vrai_Espoir> jesus why cant people use real pictures
[2013-02-16 16:11:49] <vrai> karpman
[2013-02-16 16:11:50] <vrai> n_n
[2013-02-16 16:12:06] <BlackRussian> instead of Scarf Lando would SF RP Lando work?
[2013-02-16 16:12:08] <Vrai_Espoir> n_n
[2013-02-16 16:12:09] <Funkasaurus> :'(
[2013-02-16 16:12:16] <Vrai_Espoir> this is like heists team low calorie edition
[2013-02-16 16:12:30] <Jirachee> no
[2013-02-16 16:12:32] <Funkasaurus> honus
[2013-02-16 16:12:34] <Funkasaurus> did you know
[2013-02-16 16:12:34] <Jirachee> he needs a scarfer
[2013-02-16 16:12:36] <BlackRussian> who is heists?
[2013-02-16 16:12:38] <Funkasaurus> your name rhymes with
[2013-02-16 16:12:38] <Funkasaurus> bonus
[2013-02-16 16:12:39] <Funkasaurus> !
[2013-02-16 16:12:41] <Vrai_Espoir> !_!
[2013-02-16 16:12:46] <Jirachee> I think terra is the best choice though
[2013-02-16 16:12:49] <Vrai_Espoir> hmm the garchomp set
[2013-02-16 16:12:53] <Vrai_Espoir> doesnt seem verygood
[2013-02-16 16:12:57] <Vrai_Espoir> he might as well just do sd sr
[2013-02-16 16:13:18] <Vrai_Espoir> latios also tears him a new one if it has hp fire
[2013-02-16 16:13:27] <Vrai_Espoir> or you wear down sciz
[2013-02-16 16:14:49] <BlackRussian> I agree with the Latios thing
[2013-02-16 16:15:24] <Vrai_Espoir> started from the bottom now we here
[2013-02-16 16:15:33] <BlackRussian> no
[2013-02-16 16:15:37] <BlackRussian> stop that
[2013-02-16 16:17:24] <Trinitrotoluene> Landorus-T >  Garchomp as a SR setter?
[2013-02-16 16:18:30] <BlackRussian> yes plus he need could use a Terrakion switch in
[2013-02-16 16:19:41] <Jirachee> hm sorry I was doing something else
[2013-02-16 16:19:54] <Jirachee> why would you drop chomp for lando-t
[2013-02-16 16:20:43] <Trinitrotoluene> Rak switch-in and VoltTurn momentum starter. Also, Chomp isn't the best SR setter in the world.
[2013-02-16 16:20:58] <TGMDoom> hmm
[2013-02-16 16:21:06] <Jirachee> chomp is like
[2013-02-16 16:21:13] <Jirachee> one of the best srers
[2013-02-16 16:21:15] <Vrai_Espoir> i think its a decent sr setter
[2013-02-16 16:21:21] <Vrai_Espoir> he just should run sr sd
[2013-02-16 16:21:22] <TGMDoom> lol
[2013-02-16 16:21:25] <Vrai_Espoir> not the set he has now
[2013-02-16 16:21:28] <Jirachee> yeah
[2013-02-16 16:21:31] <Jirachee> his set is
[2013-02-16 16:21:32] <Jirachee> Not Good
[2013-02-16 16:21:34] <Trinitrotoluene> Iunno, I never really liked Chomp as a SR setter.
[2013-02-16 16:21:35] <BlackRussian> why SR Sd?
[2013-02-16 16:21:35] <Vrai_Espoir> NG
[2013-02-16 16:21:40] <TGMDoom> sash y/y
[2013-02-16 16:21:41] <TGMDoom> lol
[2013-02-16 16:21:52] <Vrai_Espoir> because it threatens shit like hippowdon or anything really
[2013-02-16 16:21:59] <Vrai_Espoir> eh maybe lum
[2013-02-16 16:22:02] <Jirachee> sr sd is the best at gaining momentum
[2013-02-16 16:22:20] <Trinitrotoluene> Huh. I never really tried that out.
[2013-02-16 16:22:20] <BlackRussian> oh ok
[2013-02-16 16:22:41] <BlackRussian> I've used chomp so im jw
[2013-02-16 16:22:47] <BlackRussian> never used*
[2013-02-16 16:23:02] <Trinitrotoluene> We still need to replace that Infernape.
[2013-02-16 16:23:12] <Jirachee> yeah
[2013-02-16 16:23:13] <BlackRussian> yeah
[2013-02-16 16:23:28] <Jirachee> is there anything this team's weak to
[2013-02-16 16:23:30] <BlackRussian> I think we agree on ScarfRakion?
[2013-02-16 16:23:39] <Jirachee> wait
[2013-02-16 16:23:43] <Jirachee> we can choose a scarfer
[2013-02-16 16:23:44] <Vrai_Espoir> he doesnt look like he has a fun time vs sun teams
[2013-02-16 16:23:49] <Jirachee> based on this team's needs
[2013-02-16 16:24:27] <Trinitrotoluene> Venusaur tears him a new one if it can set up.
[2013-02-16 16:24:55] <Vrai_Espoir> offensive tran maybe
[2013-02-16 16:25:04] <Vrai_Espoir> volc looks kinda gay too
[2013-02-16 16:26:02] <Vrai_Espoir> playing vs rotom-w looks like adisaster too
[2013-02-16 16:26:14] <Vrai_Espoir> i think a hydreigon or lati@s would greatly benefit him
[2013-02-16 16:26:38] <Jirachee> latios is not good against venusaur
[2013-02-16 16:26:42] <Jirachee> latias works though!
[2013-02-16 16:27:06] <Trinitrotoluene> Scarf Latias looks like an interesting replacement. Too bad 72 / 4 / 252 / 180 Timid is the new 4 / 252 / 252 Modest.
[2013-02-16 16:27:19] <Jirachee> uh scarf latias
[2013-02-16 16:27:21] <Trinitrotoluene> Actually, forget the Scarf.
[2013-02-16 16:27:23] <Jirachee> is just
[2013-02-16 16:27:24] <Vrai_Espoir> scarf latias what
[2013-02-16 16:27:25] <Jirachee> not good
[2013-02-16 16:27:30] <Trinitrotoluene> I know.
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[2013-02-16 16:27:56] <Trinitrotoluene> That's why I said forget the Scarf. I was going to suggest Scarf Latios, but then I changed my mind.
[2013-02-16 16:28:08] <Jirachee> scarf latios
[2013-02-16 16:28:12] <Jirachee> doesn't outspeed venusaur
[2013-02-16 16:28:13] <Jirachee> .-.
[2013-02-16 16:28:21] <Trinitrotoluene> I just forgot to remove the Scarf in that statement. Sheesh, don't drag on me for it.
<TGMDoom> g2g sorry
<TGMDoom> :(
<TGMDoom> spl shenanigans
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<Jirachee> bbl
<Jirachee> tnt is hosting
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<AB2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tklYWVV-xY
<Trinitrotoluene> Welp, I'm taking responsibility, I guess.
<Trinitrotoluene> So, where did we last leave off?
<BlackRussian> umm 
<BlackRussian> we brought up Scarf Latios
<BlackRussian> but its doesnt outspeed Venusaur
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<Trinitrotoluene> Okay. That proposition was shot down a bit ago.
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<Trinitrotoluene> Recap for those that are joining us: we're rating this team: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
<BlackRussian> so a scarfer is needed
<Trinitrotoluene> And the changes established so far are: SR SD Chomp > his current Chomp.
<Trinitrotoluene> We're discussing replacements for his Scarf Infernape.
<BlackRussian> Latios and terrakion werent going to work
<BlackRussian> yea
<Trinitrotoluene> We came across Latias most recently.
<Trinitrotoluene> <Trinitrotoluene> Venusaur tears him a new one if it can set up. <Vrai_Espoir> offensive tran maybe <Vrai_Espoir> volc looks kinda gay too <Vrai_Espoir> playing vs rotom-w looks like adisaster too <Vrai_Espoir> i think a hydreigon or lati@s would greatly benefit him
<AB2> well yeah obv it's weatherless offense
<AB2> it's going to be weak to sun no matter what p much
<AB2> unless you add weather
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<Trinitrotoluene> Those are the problems that we're factoring in for our search for a replacement.
<Trinitrotoluene> So, any other suggestions?
<BlackRussian> I got nothing
<Trinitrotoluene> So, we're all agreeing that LO Latias is the best replacement for his Infernape?
<BlackRussian> umm
<BlackRussian> i think that should work
<AB2> why
<Jayde> er
<AB2> im not really sure how much it would help with venusaur
<AB2> not really much at all...
<AB2> +2 sludge bomb just kos
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<LizardMan2> Oh is this a seminar?
<BlackRussian> yes
<LizardMan2> Oh cool
<vuIpix> shoutout to my mom and dad
<BlackRussian> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253 
<BlackRussian> heres the team we are rating 
<AB2> it's weatherless offense it's going to be really tough to fix a venu weak
<BlackRussian> we established so far
<AB2> w.o adding weather
<AB2> lol
<BlackRussian> that Chomp >>> to SD SR Chomp
<BlackRussian> and we are still working of the Venusaur problem
<LizardMan2> Looks kinda weak to LO Latios
<LizardMan2> A well played LO Latios could probably hammer that team really hard
<LizardMan2> Oh
<LizardMan2> Infernape is scarf
<LizardMan2> nvm
<LizardMan2> helps a little bit
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<BlackRussian> Like @AB2 said the Venusaur thing is going to be an issue regardless 
<BlackRussian> since its a weatherless team
<LizardMan2> Oh
<LizardMan2> Breloom looks annoying
<LizardMan2> The bulky ones
<LizardMan2> So Latios is starting to sound kind of good, and so does the more offensive chomp
<LizardMan2> I'd probably do LO Latias though
<LizardMan2> A little better for Breloom and Venusaur since its bulkier. Not ideal, but it is a common problem with weatherless offense
<Trinitrotoluene> Alright. I'm back from lunch. So, LO Latias over Infernape?
<LizardMan2> He has Garchomp / latios to help deal with sub, venu has trouble setting up vs him anyway
<LizardMan2> Worst case scenario is
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<LizardMan2> Scizor locked into pursuit
<LizardMan2> Even if its like Rotom-w vs Venusaur
<LizardMan2> You could always WoW, switch to Scizor if you think they will Giga Drain
<LizardMan2> Then Bullet Punch
<LizardMan2> Im not worried about +2 growth. Im more concerned about an aggressive Venusaur which just starts attacking everything
<Trinitrotoluene> Doesn't Latias live a +2 Sludge Bomb and OHKO with LO Psyshock?
<LizardMan2> and wears all the switch ins down
<LizardMan2> Im unsure
<LizardMan2> Life Orb Venu probably kills it
<LizardMan2> but those are less common I think
<Trinitrotoluene> I'll run calcs.
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<Trinitrotoluene> 252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 72 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 129-152 (40.43 - 47.64%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
<Trinitrotoluene> +2 252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 72 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 253-300 (79.31 - 94.04%) -- 43.75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
<AB2> still very shaky
<Trinitrotoluene> I agree, but again, this is weatherless offense.
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<BlackRussian> Are we going with LO Latios?
<Trinitrotoluene> So, in conclusion, the changes are: SR SD Chomp ====> his current Chomp, and LO Latias ====> Infernape.
<Trinitrotoluene> Did I miss anything?
<Trinitrotoluene> I'll take your silence as a no then.
<LizardMan2> AB2, its shaky but you have some wiggle room
<LizardMan2> You can kind of play around it since you have Scizor, Latias, Garchomp
<LizardMan2> Definitly not perfect but no team is, and its naturally venu weak by the teams design.
<LizardMan2> A lot of Deoxys D teams are venu weak too
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<harsha> most deo-d teams are just weak to sun in general
<harsha> at least imo
<harsha> venusaur and volcarona
<harsha> can usually run through
<Trinitrotoluene> Unless they over-prepare for sun by using LO Weavile + offensive DD Dragonite + ScarfRakion + generic sun counter.