What to do with /jp/?

(16:14:54) ‹+Sange› can't have local mods

(16:15:09) ‹+Azatsu› elshoggotho recovered /tg/ from the shitpost with his iron fist

(16:15:16) ‹+Bloom› oh well, theres really no sense in having a discussion about wanting/needing more mods again, it sbeen done to death in the past 2-3 months

(16:15:29) ‹+Azatsu› Yep

(16:15:42) ‹+Sange› I'm new, so I can't really know, just saying how bad /jp/ is at the moment

(16:15:45) ‹+Azatsu› I just want more support

(16:15:50) ‹+Azatsu› if the other mods could be here more often

(16:16:10) ‹+Azatsu› I'm pretty sure there are a few more mods that aren't here, so it would be cool if they came here more often

(16:16:15) ‹+Azatsu› but if they have other things to do, I understand

(16:16:44) ‹nikka› you just cant ban all...

(16:16:53) ‹+Bloom› sure you can

(16:17:00) ‹+Bloom› you just cant get away with it

(16:17:13) ‹+Sange› 1/3 of the board treats it as it was /b/ 2.0, and I'm not exaggerating anything

(16:17:34) ‹+Sange› there's people who come literally everyday

(16:17:39) ‹+Sange› just to spam ron paul

(16:17:42) ‹nikka› sp is bigger shit than /jp/

(16:17:43) ‹+Sange› for 3 hours

(16:17:45) ‹nikka› imho

(16:18:00) ‹+Sange› I'm not familiar with /sp/

(16:18:06) ‹+Sange› but it should be pretty bad then

(16:18:20) ‹+Azatsu› nikka : when you have an admin that comes to a board and tell a mod to chill because he was too strict, yeah

(16:18:24) ‹+Azatsu› /sp/ enjoys being that way

(16:18:29) ‹+Azatsu› /jp/ is not supposed to be that way

(16:18:55) ‹+Azatsu› you are comparing a board that takes it easy and enjoy off topic content for a while with one that spams shit the whole day and has an extensive history of shit

(16:19:10) ‹+Azatsu› you don`t see ynh deleting 5~7 pages of /sp/ everyday for obvious reasons

(16:19:26) ‹+Azatsu› if anything /jp/ is the worst possible board to be a janitor of

(16:19:35) ‹%dongfix› nigré

(16:19:44) ‹+Azatsu› (you can't be a janitor of /b/, after all)

(16:21:12) ‹+Sange› 5~7 pages

(16:21:16) ‹+Sange› is exaggerated

(16:21:19) ‹+Sange› it's usually 3

(16:21:21) ‹+Bloom› no

(16:21:22) ‹+Sange› to 2

(16:21:24) ‹+Bloom› aoc deleted 6 pages

(16:21:27) ‹+Bloom› like 3 days ago

(16:21:33) ‹+Azatsu› AoC deleted 10 pages

(16:21:41) ‹+Bloom› oh

(16:21:43) ‹+Azatsu› I've gone to my farthest today, 9 pages

(16:21:45) ‹+Bloom› maybe i twas 6 left

(16:21:53) ‹+Azatsu› but it was in a horrible state...

(16:21:57) ‹+Azatsu› simply horrible

(16:22:40) ‹+Azatsu› hell, if I applied AoC's judgements of that day, we would have about 2~3 pages

(16:22:45) ‹+Azatsu› but I was kind enough to left many meh threads up

(16:22:49) ‹+Azatsu› *leave

(16:24:01) ‹+Sange› it's not about kindness

(16:24:20) ‹+Sange› they're either related or not, there's no point in overkilling

(16:24:37) ‹+Azatsu› it was just an expression

(16:26:04) ‹+Sange› yeah

(16:26:15) ‹+Sange› I'm just saying that other day was overkilling it

(16:26:24) ‹+Sange› legitimate threads deleted for no reason

(16:26:30) ‹+Sange› and half the board was angry for that

(16:26:34) ‹+Sange› this will never help

(16:26:47) ‹+Bloom› it was dealt with though

(16:28:03) ‹+Azatsu› it was, but the impression of that wasn't cool

(16:28:11) ‹+Azatsu› only a few users agreed with what he did

(16:28:18) ‹+Azatsu› but he was gambling, after all

(16:28:25) ‹+Azatsu› He risked it, to seee what would happen

(16:28:49) ‹+Sange› well it was pretty obvious

(16:30:38) ‹+VCR_Working› ./jp/ needs to be set in line

(16:31:18) ‹+Sange› it's impossible without a local mod

(16:31:28) ‹+Azatsu› we need someone to set up policies

(16:31:30) ‹+Azatsu› and ban

(16:31:34) ‹+Sange› so it's better just leaving meaningless threads to not anger the posters

(16:31:43) ‹+VCR_Working› OH PLEASE

(16:31:52) ‹+Bloom› shitposting is never board culture

(16:31:53) ‹+VCR_Working› they don't deserve it

(16:32:02) ‹+Bloom› and catering to shitposters is never policy

(16:32:09) ‹+Bloom› no matter how angry they get

(16:32:16) ‹+Sange› you delete a shitty thread, the guy decides to spam for 4 hours

(16:32:16) ‹+VCR_Working› ^

(16:32:23) ‹+Azatsu› where did I say

(16:32:27) ‹+Sange› and we can't ban him

(16:32:29) ‹+VCR_Working› it's called being a spoiled bitch

(16:32:36) ‹+Azatsu› that the mod should focus on shitposters

(16:32:42) ‹+VCR_Working› even if you ban, they end up evading

(16:32:43) ‹+Azatsu› are you implying there are only shitposters in /jp/

(16:32:50) ‹+Azatsu› you should take a look at your own board before saying that to us

(16:33:02) ‹+Sange› chill

(16:33:06) ‹+VCR_Working› well i'm not

(16:33:11) ‹+VCR_Working› but the most notorious ones

(16:33:11) ‹RapeApe_› menchii dongfix https://boards.4chan.org/b/res/407949484#p407969915 child nudity

(16:33:14) ‹+VCR_Working› are the real issue here

(16:33:34) ‹+Azatsu› They are

(16:33:35) ‹+Bloom› [18:32] <Sange> you delete a shitty thread, the guy decides to spam for 4 hours

(16:33:37) ‹+VCR_Working› they've almost completely monopolized the board into their own little sandbox

(16:33:39) ‹+Bloom› thats what this job is

(16:33:50) ‹+Bloom› maybe not to that extreme on every board

(16:34:03) ‹+Bloom› i know /tv/ has a few guys like that

(16:34:16) ‹+Azatsu› I've gone as far as deleting accelspam for 1 week nonstop

(16:34:25) ‹+Azatsu› I don't think that having to go that far is part of our job

(16:34:32) ‹+Azatsu› sometimes we must volunteer to go farther than what we can do

(16:34:43) ‹+Sange› thing is, they get progressively mad at the "janitor" for having their threads deleted, so even when we delete threads no one would complain about it

(16:34:56) ‹+Sange› they decide to spam just because the "shitty janitor is there"

(16:34:57) ‹+Bloom› hey i didnt say he had to sit and delete the shit for 4 hours, he has a life

(16:34:58) ‹+Azatsu› considering how active some people are here, I've could easily ignored many issues on the boards I'm a janitor

(16:35:17) ‹+Azatsu› Of course, we all have a life

(16:35:26) ‹nikka› lies

(16:35:31) ‹+Aerolite› we have lives?

(16:35:31) ‹+Bloom› i dont.. just videogames

(16:35:38) ‹+Aerolite› good joke

(16:35:41) ‹nikka› keep whip cracking

(16:35:43) ‹+Azatsu› well yeah

(16:35:45) ‹+Azatsu› ww

(16:35:47) ‹+Azatsu› But still

(16:35:54) ‹+Aerolite› we were born to serve his majesty mootles

(16:35:55) ‹+Sange› if you delete a thread on /jp/ you must be prepared to babysit the board for another hour

(16:35:58) ‹RapeApe_› menchii dongfix https://boards.4chan.org/b/res/407955442#p407964985 CP

(16:35:59) ‹+Aerolite› not "have lives"

(16:36:01) ‹+Aerolite› silly peasants

(16:36:01) ‹+Sange› doesn't matter which thread

(16:36:13) ‹+Azatsu› when you have things such as nocturnes

(16:36:14) ‹+Sange› because people are going to spam just because you are there

(16:36:21) ‹+Azatsu› and we must have a guy to make a script just for deleting it

(16:36:25) ‹+Azatsu› it means something is very wrong with the board

(16:36:29) ‹+VCR_Working› yeah

(16:36:54) ‹+VCR_Working› i wouldn't be opposed to a complete kill of /jp/ myself, but again that's where all the shit will spill over

(16:36:57) ‹+VCR_Working› *when

(16:36:57) ‹+Bloom› well it does sound like it sucks a lot... but this is a volunteer position, nobody forces you to do anything

(16:37:20) ‹+Sange› we kinda need to split the themes, but it's probably not feasible, as is having local mods

(16:37:27) ‹+Sange› so we just gotta do a shitty half assed job

(16:37:31) ‹+andonuts› 16:36:54 ‹+VCR_Working› i wouldn't be opposed to a complete kill of /jp/ myself, but again that's where all the shit will spill over

(16:37:40) ‹+andonuts› A better ruleset needs to be defined is all.

(16:37:51) ‹+Bloom› i said that last month too ;_;

(16:37:51) ‹+VCR_Working› if only it was that easy

(16:38:04) ‹+andonuts› But it is.

(16:38:05) ‹+Azatsu› that's why we need a mod

(16:38:10)  » Join: duanemoody ‹~duanemood@blah.blah.blergh›

(16:38:16) ‹+VCR_Working› that's the thing, it's not

(16:38:18) ‹+Azatsu› mods can say "this belongs this doesn~ belongs"

(16:38:20) ‹+Bloom› you need rules and a mod

(16:38:23) ‹+VCR_Working› not with the people on the board

(16:38:30) ‹+Bloom› a serious mod who seriously cares and has serious time

(16:38:31) ‹+Sange› the problem is that /jp/ became "everything that does not fit into /a/ or the other weeaboo boards should go there"

(16:38:31) ‹+andonuts› /a/ and /jp/ do need a dedicated mod.

(16:38:32) ‹+Bloom› seriously

(16:38:50) ‹+Azatsu› /a/ has very good mods

(16:38:52) ‹+Bloom› /a/ has like 3 janitors and kami`

(16:38:56) ‹+Sange› so it's difficult creating a ruleset

(16:38:58) ‹+VCR_Working› like i said, the core of the problem is the people who've turned /jp/ in their own little playground

(16:39:04) ‹+Azatsu› 5 janitors, kami and kdel

(16:39:15) ‹+Azatsu› /a/ is blessed with people that care for the board

(16:39:17) ‹+Azatsu› *6 janitors

(16:39:23) ‹+Azatsu› and they are grateful when you do your job

(16:39:32) ‹+Azatsu› unlike /jp/, who spit in your face and tells you that you're wrong

(16:39:36) ‹+andonuts› I wasn't implying th at /a/ didn't have mods, I was just saying that they need at least a single dedicated mod at all hours.

(16:39:43) ‹+Azatsu› Indeed, they need

(16:39:45) ‹+VCR_Working› actually tbh

(16:39:50) ‹+Bloom› every board needs that

(16:39:54) ‹+Bloom› no board is ever going to get it

(16:39:54) ‹+Azatsu› I'm just saying that /a/ should be glad that they have such support from the staff

(16:39:55) ‹+VCR_Working› [12:39:29] <+Azatsu> unlike /jp/, who spit in your face and tells you that you're wrong

(16:39:58) ‹+andonuts› True enough.

(16:40:04) ‹+VCR_Working› i think this is the same subgroup of shitposters

(16:40:13) ‹+Azatsu› yeah, it's a shame

(16:40:45) ‹+Azatsu› some boards really need a little bit of more mods

(16:40:46) ‹+Azatsu› like /v/

(16:40:58) ‹+VCR_Working› they mock the hell out of authority, and do whatever they want, even if rules were established they wouldn't listen

(16:41:06) ‹+Bloom› >mod activity on /v/

(16:41:08) ‹nikka› who goes to /v/ when vg exist

(16:41:09) ‹+Bloom› >more brofield threads