- (9:16:16 AM) The topic for #postfix is: The Postfix MTA || See !debug and provide a pastebin URL of relevant logs and "postconf -n" output before asking questions / check your logs / know your unix basics || On using IRC: http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc || Bot info: http://workaround.org/f=postfix || Channel log: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?postfix
- (9:16:40 AM) cesurasean: hey guys. i keep getting spam emails with virus attached. how do i stop this with postfix, or dovecot?
- (9:17:35 AM) gabWNT: rob0 I am just curious because I migrated from an old version of postfix to the latest stable release
- (9:17:36 AM) lunaphyte_: contact the sender and request that they not send those messages
- (9:17:39 AM) gabWNT: and was wondering if I needed it
- (9:17:56 AM) gabWNT: hahahaha lunaphyte :)
- (9:18:04 AM) rob0: reject_unauth_destination is the replacement
- (9:18:21 AM) rob0: and that does exactly what it sounds like it does
- (9:18:22 AM) gabWNT: thanks rob0 !
- (9:18:33 AM) gabWNT: one more thing
- (9:18:50 AM) gabWNT: whenever I recieve emails for inactive or mailboxes that no longer exist they are getting stacked in the server's queue
- (9:18:53 AM) gabWNT: (temporary failure. Command output: lda: Fatal: Unknown user)
- (9:18:59 AM) gabWNT: is this error postfix related or dovecot?
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- (9:22:38 AM) rob0: lda? I don't know what that is, but as it says, "Command output:" ... if you are running an external command, you probably want to use something that works.
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- (9:22:47 AM) gabWNT: lda is a protocol in dovecot
- (9:23:05 AM) gabWNT: ok ty
- (9:23:31 AM) rob0: This then suggests that Dovecot cannot verify that the user exists.
- (9:25:56 AM) gabWNT: ty!!
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- (9:28:14 AM) lunaphyte_: so far, i have been unable to verify that rob0 exists.
- (9:35:51 AM) sysmonk: isn't rob0 a bot managed by knoba?
- (9:36:16 AM) thumbs: he's a bot designed to kill yates.
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- (9:56:58 AM) m4xx: I've got a few mailboxes that just forward to external mail addresses and have no local storage. When I try to send large files to these boxes it seems that the same file size restrictions are set. I get the error "queue file size limit exceeded". Is there any way to set file size limits only on mailboxes with local storage?
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- (10:09:19 AM) thumbs: arg, coworker using port 25 for sumission.
- (10:11:29 AM) Dominian: smack 'em!!!
- (10:11:54 AM) thumbs: I did.
- (10:13:16 AM) rob0: Beat cow-orker into submission!
- (10:13:32 AM) rob0: and post the pics
- (10:13:43 AM) thumbs: rob0: I'll get on that right away
- (10:14:19 AM) rob0: m4xx, QUEUE file size is global, because the queue is global.
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- (10:15:23 AM) rob0: If you want a different queue file size for some addresses, those will need to be handled by a different instance. Might not be possible, probably not if they are the same @domain.
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- (10:16:49 AM) m4xx: Are there different settings for the max queue file size and the max file size when delivering to a local box aside from mailbox size?
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- (10:18:59 AM) rob0: as I said, QUEUE file size is global
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- (11:21:44 AM) SkyFlyer: I have 3 virtual mailboxes that work fine, however the other 10 boxes are not delivering mail to thier directories? Not sure what the difference could be? or why?
- (11:22:05 AM) thumbs: !tell SkyFlyer welcome
- (11:22:06 AM) knoba: SkyFlyer: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
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- (11:43:06 AM) codin: how can I make the email user names case insensitives ? currently I have a user john@mydomain.net who can receive emails on this address, but can not receive emails for JOHN@mydomain.net ?
- (11:44:31 AM) wdp: !tell codin welcome
- (11:44:31 AM) knoba: codin: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
- (11:46:10 AM) codin: wdp, would you need more info ?
- (11:47:02 AM) rob0: Email user names are case-insensitive. Something else you have introduced, about which we could not begin to guess, has changed this.
- (11:47:05 AM) wdp: codin, without knowing your setup it's difficult to tell, why it is _not_ case-insensitive. That worked out-of-the-box here.
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- (11:47:25 AM) wdp: codin, thus, of course we need more information.
- (11:48:47 AM) codin: one second, and I will post my "postconf -n"
- (11:48:55 AM) rob0: !priorities\
- (11:48:55 AM) knoba: rob0: Error: "priorities\" is not a valid command.
- (11:48:57 AM) rob0: !priorities
- (11:48:58 AM) knoba: rob0: "priorities" : LOGS are almost *always* the primary thing you should be focusing on providing. unless someone has specifically told you logs are not needed, do not bother collecting other information until after you have a clear log snippit demonstrating what you are asking for help with. also see !logs, !no_logs, and !relevant_logs.
- (11:49:12 AM) rob0: a single pastebin with everything relevant
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- (11:51:43 AM) codin: wdp, http://pastebin.com/925ssfS1
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- (11:52:29 AM) wdp: rob0, line 13, eh?
- (11:52:59 AM) lunaphyte_: i don't look at postconf output until the problem has been demonstrated with log data.
- (11:53:07 AM) lunaphyte_: !tell codin priorities
- (11:53:07 AM) knoba: codin: "priorities" : LOGS are almost *always* the primary thing you should be focusing on providing. unless someone has specifically told you logs are not needed, do not bother collecting other information until after you have a clear log snippit demonstrating what you are asking for help with. also see !logs, !no_logs, and !relevant_logs.
- (11:53:16 AM) rob0: As good a guess as any. I am out. Bye.
- (11:53:24 AM) tharkun: rob0: good luck
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- (11:56:57 AM) codin: lunaphyte_: Oct 5 08:43:24 gw lmtpunix[17755]: verify_user(user.JOHN) failed: Mailbox does not exist
- (11:57:07 AM) codin: I think this is the line you are looking for
- (11:57:12 AM) codin: now I see
- (11:57:37 AM) codin: it is my local delivery agent, who does not recognize the user ...
- (11:57:46 AM) lunaphyte_: lmtpunix isn't postfix
- (11:57:47 AM) codin: in my case it is cyrus-imap
- (11:58:09 AM) codin: hmm ... how would I tell cyrus about case sensitivity ?
- (11:58:37 AM) lunaphyte_: by asking in a venue appropriate for getting help with cyrus.
- (11:58:51 AM) codin: ok, thank you very much
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- (12:13:08 PM) codin: is there a way to tell postfix to try and re-deliver the deferred emails ? after a 550 error ?
- (12:14:01 PM) codin: I fixed the local agent, and I would like postfix to try and deliver them again ? it is possible ?
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- (12:15:09 PM) tharkun: codin: is it still on the queue, if so man postsuper
- (12:16:01 PM) codin: tharkun, yes they are in the deferred queue
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- (12:16:12 PM) codin: postqueue -p shows them ...
- (12:16:13 PM) tharkun: man postsuper
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- (12:19:44 PM) codin: postsuper -r tries to send 550 messages to the senders ...
- (12:19:59 PM) codin: it does not try to re-deliver to the local agent
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- (1:57:44 PM) craigbass1976: I'm looking for something that tells me how to forward mail for joe@x.com to tom@x.com, dick@x.com and harry@x.com. Everything I see online so far is how to forward just to one other address
- (1:58:22 PM) lunaphyte: !alias_maps
- (1:58:22 PM) knoba: lunaphyte: "alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The alias databases that are used for local(8) delivery. See aliases(5) for syntax details.
- (1:58:26 PM) rob0: "man 5 virtual"
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- (3:05:39 PM) jax: so it's been a bit quieter since greylisting..
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- (4:02:42 PM) Vova: Hello! I have installed postfix and then I'm trying to install postfixadmin web interface. I have configured it twice, but when i try to login, just happens nothing....
- (4:02:50 PM) Vova is now known as Vladimir[LV]
- (4:04:58 PM) pj: Vladimir[LV]: this channel is for postfix help, not postfixadmin.
- (4:05:16 PM) Vladimir[LV]: pj: I now. But maybe you can help me.. ?
- (4:05:59 PM) pj: I doubt it, you need to go to the postfixadmin support channels.
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- (4:17:45 PM) tharkun: Vladimir[LV]: you can allways configure postfix by hand. It ain't that hard and is also more secure ;P
- (4:19:51 PM) Vladimir[LV]: thana
- (4:19:57 PM) Vladimir[LV]: tharkun: i have found the problem :-)
- (4:20:06 PM) thana: ok
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- (4:22:04 PM) nimbius: hey postfix. how we doin.
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- (4:22:49 PM) nimbius: I need to do dkim signing on outbound mail for numerous domains, but to use a content filter is four orders of magnitude less efficient than not using one.
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- (4:24:10 PM) nimbius: I could use the dkim milter i guess, but one of those is invoked with every postfix smtp. and it has no db support
- (4:24:53 PM) nimbius: the post queue content filter ive got right now is...horribly inefficient and chews up lots of TCP sockets when it should be using domain sockets.
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- (4:38:45 PM) seekwill: nimbius: What's the problem?
- (4:40:29 PM) nimbius: i think the content filter design is inefficient, and i wonder if milters are really a valid alternative.
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- (5:00:15 PM) roman___: Hi!
- (5:01:18 PM) roman___: i just configured my first postfix using sasl (against pam) and most things already work fine. The last problem still existing is that anyone@mydomain is also allowed to send as anythingelse@mydomain... is there a way to restrict this?
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- (5:08:42 PM) Corey: roman___: That's by design.
- (5:09:02 PM) roman___: hm...
- (5:09:21 PM) roman___: so anyone in the domain can send mails as anyone else? why's that intended?
- (5:10:01 PM) thumbs: roman___: why do you think sender verification matters?
- (5:10:13 PM) thumbs: roman___: you can craft the from: header from any mua.
- (5:10:46 PM) roman___: yes, but the mailserver shouldn't allow the user to do so... so anyone receiving mails from my mailserver can see, that the mail was really sent by this user
- (5:11:13 PM) thumbs: roman___: also, from: is not the same as the return path.
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- (5:11:40 PM) thumbs: roman___: lastly, sender verification is extremely expensive.
- (5:11:42 PM) dead: you can run smtpd, trivial-rewrite etc, with -v or -D in the master.cf file...
- (5:11:49 PM) dead: how do I run the actual "master" process with -v or -D?
- (5:11:58 PM) dead: it says this is possible in the man page...but can't figure out to get it to use that...
- (5:13:21 PM) roman___: reject_authenticated_sender_login_mismatch <--- looks like this is what i'm looking for
- (5:13:23 PM) thumbs: roman___: what kind of volume does your server push?
- (5:14:36 PM) roman___: not much
- (5:14:44 PM) roman___: about 300 users, but really low-traffic
- (5:15:24 PM) roman___: and reject_authenticated_sender_login_mismatch works! :)
- (5:15:30 PM) thumbs: roman___: so normal email traffic for 300 users, per day? It should scale.
- (5:16:45 PM) roman___: yes i think so
- (5:17:00 PM) roman___: and it's not even a company, but a student+alumni-organisation...
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- (5:19:34 PM) dead: ok so i got a trace of master
- (5:19:37 PM) dead: and its working 100% normally
- (5:19:43 PM) dead: then something is just sending it a SIGKILL
- (5:19:51 PM) dead: unexplainably...?
- (5:20:14 PM) dead: probably some other issue on the system...or is this something you've seen?
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- (5:58:01 PM) Shwaiil: hi ppl
- (5:58:58 PM) Shwaiil: Q: I've run postfix install in ubuntu and choosen "localost" option. Created a php script to send one email, but it didnt worked. So, I checked a tutorial and the user uses "internet site" as option. after checking the main.cf I dont know where to change it accordingly. Any tips ? Tks
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- (5:59:37 PM) devil02jm: hello?
- (5:59:42 PM) devil02jm: please is anybody there
- (5:59:44 PM) devil02jm: ??
- (6:00:02 PM) devil02jm: i need help with postfix
- (6:00:12 PM) Shwaiil: I'm here but... this is the first time installing it
- (6:00:48 PM) devil02jm: well, i use an ubuntu 10.04 mail server
- (6:00:58 PM) devil02jm: postfix is working fine
- (6:01:18 PM) Shwaiil: I isntalled first time and choosen localhost
- (6:01:25 PM) devil02jm: when i send an email thru smtp
- (6:01:26 PM) Shwaiil: created a php script to send email but I didnt get the email i've sent
- (6:01:28 PM) Shwaiil: humm :P
- (6:01:54 PM) devil02jm: the email goes fine
- (6:01:56 PM) devil02jm: ???
- (6:02:09 PM) devil02jm: i don´t und
- (6:02:14 PM) devil02jm: well
- (6:02:44 PM) devil02jm: i can send emails by smtp just for local domains
- (6:02:58 PM) devil02jm: but when i send to an external domanin
- (6:03:03 PM) devil02jm: the error is
- (6:03:10 PM) devil02jm: relay access denaied
- (6:03:19 PM) thumbs: !tell devil02jm relay_denied
- (6:03:19 PM) knoba: devil02jm: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_doma
- (6:03:24 PM) thumbs: !tell devil02jm welcome
- (6:03:24 PM) knoba: devil02jm: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
- (6:04:05 PM) Dominian: Shwaiil: Can you show us an postconf -n in a pastebin please?
- (6:04:42 PM) devil02jm: sure
- (6:04:46 PM) devil02jm: let me see
- (6:04:51 PM) Shwaiil: Dominian, tks for looking ;) I will
- (6:05:50 PM) Shwaiil: here's my postconf -n http://pastie.org/private/mzp6nihlr5wzxzh3r8cz1q
- (6:05:53 PM) Shwaiil: tks for looking!
- (6:06:04 PM) Dominian: Shwaiil: Look at inet_interfaces
- (6:06:11 PM) Dominian: in main.cf
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- (6:06:17 PM) Dominian: !inet_interfaces
- (6:06:17 PM) knoba: Dominian: "inet_interfaces" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The network interface addresses that this mail system receives mail on. By default, the software claims all active interfaces on the machine. The parameter also controls delivery of mail to user@[ip.address]. If your server does not react to connection attempts on a certain interface you should check this setting.
- (6:06:30 PM) Dominian: ubuntu or whatever you are using has set it to loopback-only
- (6:06:45 PM) thumbs: Dominian: oh, yeah, that's annoying.
- (6:06:57 PM) Dominian: typical with ubuntu I've seen..
- (6:07:05 PM) Dominian: it used to be crap with /etc/mailname
- (6:07:09 PM) thumbs: Dominian: half-ass stock packages.
- (6:07:10 PM) Dominian: now its inet_interfaces they are jacking with
- (6:07:35 PM) Dominian: and this client I'm waiting on to call me only has until 7:30pm and then I'm going home
- (6:08:12 PM) Shwaiil: Dominian, I can change that param right ?
- (6:09:11 PM) devil02jm: ELF
- (6:09:37 PM) devil02jm: that´s all in my postconf file
- (6:09:57 PM) thumbs: devil02jm: I asked for postconf -n
- (6:10:11 PM) devil02jm: oh!
- (6:11:16 PM) Shwaiil: I've changed that config to "all". after testing sending trough telnet, I get @gmail.com domain not allowed msg
- (6:11:28 PM) Shwaiil: I actually only need that postfix sends email
- (6:12:39 PM) Shwaiil: Recipient address rejected: gmail.com
- (6:13:02 PM) devil02jm: alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
- (6:13:12 PM) thumbs: devil02jm: still not what we asked for.
- (6:13:20 PM) thumbs: !tell devil02jm welcome
- (6:13:21 PM) knoba: devil02jm: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
- (6:13:24 PM) devil02jm: alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
- (6:13:35 PM) devil02jm: is a lot
- (6:13:43 PM) thumbs: devil02jm: good luck then.
- (6:14:02 PM) devil02jm: append_dot_mydomain = no
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- (6:14:08 PM) jimpop: lol
- (6:14:21 PM) thumbs: jimpop: where did devil02jm come from?
- (6:14:41 PM) jimpop: thumbs: dunno.. i ignore joins/etc
- (6:14:56 PM) thumbs: jimpop: so do I, but it was more of a rethorical question.
- (6:15:18 PM) jimpop: thumbs: oh, in that case he/she came from noobville
- (6:15:27 PM) jimpop: *irc noobville
- (6:15:30 PM) jimpop: ;-)
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- (6:15:49 PM) thumbs: jimpop: thanks.
- (6:15:57 PM) jimpop: i wonder if the chan kicked him/her for flooding
- (6:16:14 PM) thumbs: jimpop: nope.
- (6:16:21 PM) jimpop: k
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- (6:33:12 PM) tharkun: thumbs: 17:59 -!- devil02jm [~devil02jm@186.4.224.134] has joined #postfix
- (6:33:40 PM) thumbs: tharkun: yeah, some mobile client.
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- (6:40:51 PM) irctc165: hi
- (6:40:57 PM) irctc165: i need help with postfix
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- (6:41:46 PM) jimpop: !tell irctc165 welcome
- (6:41:47 PM) knoba: irctc165: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
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- (7:10:31 PM) jimpop: wow, RIP Steve Jobs.
- (7:11:05 PM) Zelest: mhm
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- (7:12:51 PM) cesurasean: thumbs, can you tell me how to fix this line? it says it's invalid or something, and im not using sendmail. what would i put here; user=spamd argv=/usr/bin/spamc -f -e
- (7:12:51 PM) cesurasean: /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}
- (7:14:15 PM) cesurasean: do i put postfix's address there?
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- (7:44:32 PM) cesurasean: join #spamassassin
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- (8:35:36 PM) pj: cesurasean: postfix has a sendmail binary as well, it should just work.
- (8:35:59 PM) pj: ...if course, "it says it's invalid or something" isn't much to go on.
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- (9:05:06 PM) cesurasean: pj, Oct 5 19:38:55 server postfix/master[10267]: fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 99: bad transport type: argv=/usr/bin/spamc
- (9:05:19 PM) cesurasean: what does bad transport type mean?
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- (9:18:27 PM) pj: cesurasean: you need to give more info, please show the info requested in /topic and also pastebin your master.cf
- (9:20:10 PM) pj: in fact, if you just show me your master.cf I may be able to tell you the problem.
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- (9:21:06 PM) cesurasean: pj, http://pastebin.com/KkTcfQZD
- (9:26:06 PM) pj: cesurasean: delete line 98 and put two spaces i nfront of line 99, also have a read of: man 5 master
- (9:26:35 PM) pj: ...and two spaces in front of line 100 as well
- (9:27:36 PM) cesurasean: two spaces in front of line 99? what do you mean?
- (9:28:07 PM) pj: you need to put whitespace at the beginning of a line that continues the line before it.
- (9:28:25 PM) pj: read that man page
- (9:29:48 PM) cesurasean: pj, it's still not working.
- (9:29:50 PM) cesurasean: same error.
- (9:29:59 PM) pj: then you didn't do what I told you to do
- (9:30:31 PM) pj: paste your master.cf again so I can see what you changed.
- (9:31:37 PM) cesurasean: pj, http://pastebin.com/pj9s25F6
- (9:31:58 PM) cesurasean: I don't think I understand what I need to fix. I don't really see how adding a whitespace, or pressing the space bar twice is going to fix this?
- (9:32:59 PM) pj: you did not put spaces in front of (what used to be) line 99, you need space at the beginning of the user= line
- (9:33:41 PM) pj: cesurasean: you do not understand because you have not read the docs, specifcally the master(5) man page which I told you to read.
- (9:33:53 PM) pj: so go read that before you try to tell me that you don't understand again.
- (9:36:16 PM) Patrickdk: pj, get with the times, reading is overrated these days
- (9:36:27 PM) pj: Patrickdk: no kidding, sheesh
- (9:36:38 PM) cesurasean: cool
- (9:36:41 PM) cesurasean: it works now.
- (9:36:46 PM) cesurasean: i think i understand
- (9:36:50 PM) cesurasean: that was all 1 command, right?
- (9:36:56 PM) pj: cesurasean: yes
- (9:36:58 PM) cesurasean: i thought it was 3 different ones. :>
- (9:37:10 PM) Patrickdk: line starts with space means, continue previous line
- (9:37:17 PM) cesurasean: ok, now how to i get amavisd, and clamav to work alongside postfix, and spamassassin?
- (9:37:34 PM) Patrickdk: you want to use amavisd?
- (9:37:35 PM) pj: cesurasean: by reading docs, heh
- (9:37:38 PM) cesurasean: are those separate from what im doing? or does postfix need other configs?
- (9:37:44 PM) Patrickdk: everything you did is pretty useless then
- (9:37:49 PM) Patrickdk: cause amavis replaces it all
- (9:38:11 PM) cesurasean: so amavis and spamassassin are the same thing?
- (9:38:14 PM) Patrickdk: you spamass config should go away
- (9:38:19 PM) Patrickdk: and be replaced with amavis configs
- (9:38:27 PM) Patrickdk: no
- (9:38:32 PM) Patrickdk: amavis wraps around spamass
- (9:38:44 PM) pj: amavis runs as a wrapper for spammassassin and clamav
- (9:38:45 PM) cesurasean: that's what i don't understand.
- (9:38:46 PM) Patrickdk: so why would you want to use spamass twice? once in amavis and once alone?
- (9:38:59 PM) cesurasean: ok
- (9:39:02 PM) cesurasean: so
- (9:39:14 PM) cesurasean: usiing amavisd, plus spamassassin won't work? or just useless?
- (9:39:29 PM) cesurasean: if so, how do i increase amavisd and clamav to find these virus i keep getting in email
- (9:39:35 PM) Patrickdk: defently a case of, why didn't you read the docs before hand?
- (9:39:51 PM) cesurasean: because I'm not much of a reader. I have to play with things to udnerstand them.
- (9:40:08 PM) Patrickdk: it could take you years to setup an email server than
- (9:40:18 PM) cesurasean: i already have one setup.
- (9:40:29 PM) cesurasean: i just need to make it stop processing CRAP spam and virus
- (9:40:31 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: are you running freshclam?
- (9:40:39 PM) jimpop: and sa-update?
- (9:40:45 PM) cesurasean: jimpop, how do i check to see if im running freshclam?
- (9:40:49 PM) jimpop: ps -ef
- (9:40:50 PM) cesurasean: what is sa-update?
- (9:40:56 PM) Patrickdk: hell, what version of clamav? :)
- (9:40:59 PM) jimpop: spamassassin update
- (9:41:09 PM) ***Patrickdk wonders how many people are still running .94 and .95
- (9:41:32 PM) Patrickdk: what spamass version?
- (9:41:35 PM) cesurasean: yes, /usr/bin/freshclam -d --quiet
- (9:41:48 PM) ***jimpop wonders how many people are still running mailservers when they shouldn't be
- (9:41:55 PM) cesurasean: how do i check spamassassin version?
- (9:41:55 PM) pj: cesurasean: go to the amavisd-new website and read up on what amavisd-new is for.
- (9:42:06 PM) Patrickdk: spamassassin --version?
- (9:42:08 PM) pj: and stop telling me you're afraid of reading, you won't get very far that way.
- (9:42:36 PM) cesurasean: so, should i remove everything ive done to install spamassassin?
- (9:42:42 PM) cesurasean: or just leave what i got?
- (9:42:55 PM) pj: cesurasean: I bet if you go and read up on the amavisd docs you'
- (9:42:57 PM) cesurasean: SpamAssassin version 3.3.1
- (9:43:03 PM) pj: you'll be able to answer that question yourself
- (9:43:12 PM) Patrickdk: oh, atleast spamass is current enough
- (9:43:12 PM) cesurasean: pj, can you please help me?
- (9:43:18 PM) cesurasean: ive read the docs before
- (9:43:24 PM) cesurasean: i just don't understand this as well as you do, buddy.
- (9:43:26 PM) Patrickdk: clamscan -V
- (9:43:28 PM) cesurasean: that's why i come here to ask you.
- (9:43:36 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: dump amavis and use postfix with spamass-milter and clamav-milter
- (9:43:49 PM) Patrickdk: amavisd-new has very good documentation on how to set it up with postfix, step by step
- (9:44:00 PM) cesurasean: I've already setup amavid with postfix!
- (9:44:08 PM) cesurasean: i was adding spamassassin to my machine
- (9:44:24 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: don't use amdavisd.... if you want to use amavis, then use amavis-new!!!!!!!!!
- (9:44:32 PM) cesurasean: i assume i had clamav working with amavis, but no spamassassin?
- (9:44:41 PM) cesurasean: I'm using amavis-new
- (9:44:45 PM) cesurasean: it sucks.
- (9:44:47 PM) pj: cesurasean: you just said that you didn't read the docs. I don't have a problem helping people who are willing to take the time to read and understand docs.
- (9:44:59 PM) Patrickdk: oh, so your issue is purely, you have no idea how to use amavisd/spamass/clamav configs
- (9:45:05 PM) cesurasean: pj, I do. I need more clarification than GO READ THE DOCS.
- (9:45:18 PM) cesurasean: Patrickdk, perhaps.
- (9:45:27 PM) Patrickdk: well, we can't help you with that
- (9:45:30 PM) Patrickdk: this is #postfix
- (9:45:30 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: you really do need to read the docs, or at least understand how to use them
- (9:45:31 PM) cesurasean: ok, first question
- (9:45:35 PM) Patrickdk: not #howtostopspam
- (9:45:37 PM) cesurasean: do i need to uninstall spamassassin?
- (9:45:48 PM) cesurasean: or is this just a matter of config right?
- (9:45:58 PM) Patrickdk: you need to read the amavis docs mainly, then spamass docs
- (9:46:00 PM) pj: cesurasean: you still need spamassassin
- (9:46:11 PM) pj: it just gets called from amavisd, not from postfix directly.
- (9:46:19 PM) Patrickdk: you probably need to configure amavis correctly, for whatever it is you want it to do
- (9:46:20 PM) cesurasean: ok, and how does the email travel? amavis-new, spamassassin, then clamav checks it?
- (9:46:22 PM) cesurasean: which order?
- (9:46:31 PM) Patrickdk: there is no order
- (9:46:37 PM) Patrickdk: therefor you don't understand amavis at all
- (9:46:44 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: order depends on how you config'ed it to work
- (9:46:48 PM) cesurasean: what do you mean there is no order?
- (9:46:51 PM) cesurasean: AH
- (9:46:55 PM) cesurasean: jimpop, thanks
- (9:46:57 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: how did you configure it to work?
- (9:46:59 PM) cesurasean: now i udnerstand.
- (9:47:03 PM) cesurasean: I don't know!
- (9:47:04 PM) pj: cesurasean: it works like this, postfix sends the emails to amavisd, and amavisd runs them through spamassassin and clamav and whatever else you tell it to do then passes the emails back to postfix.
- (9:47:05 PM) jimpop: !tell cesurasean welcome
- (9:47:05 PM) knoba: cesurasean: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
- (9:47:08 PM) cesurasean: been years since I've messed with this.
- (9:47:14 PM) jimpop: !tell cesurasean goal
- (9:47:14 PM) knoba: cesurasean: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is
- (9:47:25 PM) jimpop: !tell cesurasean basic
- (9:47:26 PM) knoba: cesurasean: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
- (9:47:35 PM) Patrickdk: goal: stop spam
- (9:47:45 PM) cesurasean: my goal is to stop so much spam from hitting my box, mainly virus being sent to me DAILY like 50 times
- (9:47:48 PM) pj: jimpop: and when I say amavisd I mean amavisd-new, I just don't want to type it all out every time, heh
- (9:47:48 PM) Patrickdk: solution: hire a team of spam fiting ninja's for 24/7 protection
- (9:47:56 PM) cesurasean: LOL
- (9:48:04 PM) cesurasean: ninjas?
- (9:48:06 PM) cesurasean: or monkies?
- (9:48:07 PM) jimpop: pj: gotcha
- (9:48:13 PM) cesurasean: monkeys
- (9:48:24 PM) Patrickdk: cesurasean, you get what you pay for, monkeys are cheap, but not good
- (9:48:49 PM) cesurasean: is there a way to make clamav pick up on these virus?
- (9:48:58 PM) cesurasean: instead of my workstation's virus having to detect them
- (9:49:14 PM) Patrickdk: clamscan -V?
- (9:49:16 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: sure. integrate clamav with postfix or via amavis
- (9:49:28 PM) cesurasean: ClamAV 0.97/13754/Wed Oct 5 17:04:21 2011
- (9:49:40 PM) cesurasean: I think clam is setup already.
- (9:49:47 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: PROVE that you have things integrated correctly between amavis/postfix/clamav/spamassassin
- (9:49:47 PM) cesurasean: I'm going to remove this crap I did with spamassassin.
- (9:49:57 PM) cesurasean: what configs do you need to see of mine, to help me figure this out?
- (9:50:05 PM) jimpop: !tell cesurasean welcome
- (9:50:06 PM) knoba: cesurasean: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
- (9:50:08 PM) cesurasean: how do i prove that?
- (9:50:08 PM) Patrickdk: somehow I don't think you have amavis sending anything to clamav/spamass
- (9:50:28 PM) cesurasean: Patrickdk, how do i check?
- (9:50:31 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: did you read /topic
- (9:50:38 PM) Patrickdk: currently, I don't see how you are sending anything to amavis at all
- (9:50:43 PM) Patrickdk: !welcome
- (9:50:44 PM) knoba: Patrickdk: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
- (9:50:48 PM) Patrickdk: postconf -n would help
- (9:51:17 PM) jimpop: ps -ef too
- (9:51:52 PM) cesurasean: so, does it only look like i have spamass installed, and amavis, but just not using them?
- (9:51:52 PM) Patrickdk: rm -...... would also :)
- (9:52:03 PM) jimpop: lol
- (9:52:06 PM) cesurasean: postfix needs to pass emails to amavis to handle, right?
- (9:52:11 PM) Patrickdk: cesurasean, how should we know? I can't see inside your server
- (9:52:19 PM) cesurasean: and amavis does spamass and clamv on its own?
- (9:52:46 PM) Patrickdk: this is why reading atlead the amavis home page would help
- (9:53:10 PM) cesurasean: where inside postfix config do i setup amavis?
- (9:53:13 PM) cesurasean: i thought i had done this?!
- (9:53:21 PM) Patrickdk: holy crap, the first paragraph on the home page says it all :)
- (9:53:42 PM) cesurasean: i have this line. 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd
- (9:53:46 PM) cesurasean: isn't that amavis?
- (9:53:47 PM) Patrickdk: I see amavis setup in your postfix config, but I see no where that you told postfix to use it
- (9:54:00 PM) cesurasean: lol
- (9:54:01 PM) Patrickdk: that is defently not amavis
- (9:54:12 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: what OS are you running?
- (9:54:15 PM) cesurasean: what part do i have amavis setup in my postfix config? which line?
- (9:54:19 PM) cesurasean: Debain Squeeze
- (9:54:31 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: ok, i will google some help for you...
- (9:54:51 PM) cesurasean: so i guess i havent been using the spamassassin and clamav like i thought i was?
- (9:55:12 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: this will help you get started http://www.fatofthelan.com/technical/how-to-install-postfix-amavis-clamav-and-spamassassin-on-debian-linux/
- (9:55:24 PM) pj: oh, look at this, I just went to the amavisd homepage, clicked on "Documentation" and then clicked on "README.postfix" and guess what I found?
- (9:55:24 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: come back when you have that working and need some help
- (9:56:13 PM) Patrickdk: pj, yourself?
- (9:56:27 PM) pj: lol, close Patrickdk
- (9:56:39 PM) pj: but wow, it was just, like, sooooooo hard to find those links
- (9:57:03 PM) pj: and what could I possibly do with an official amavisd doc that tells me exactly how to setup and integrate amavisd with postfix?
- (9:57:06 PM) pj: I wonder ...
- (9:57:12 PM) jimpop: if only there was a global search engine.....
- (9:57:30 PM) seekwill: Maybe we should invent one
- (9:57:36 PM) Patrickdk: jimpop, there was one, but didn't excite die a long time ago? along with altavista?
- (9:57:56 PM) jimpop: yeah... too bad nothing replaced them.
- (9:58:01 PM) jimpop: one day....
- (9:58:11 PM) pj: why do we need to do that when we can just tell people the directions one-line-at-a-time in an irc channel every time they ask?
- (9:58:26 PM) jimpop: ha!
- (9:58:30 PM) Patrickdk: pj, I thought that was what little miss bot was for :)
- (9:58:35 PM) Patrickdk: !pj
- (9:58:35 PM) knoba: Patrickdk: Error: "pj" is not a valid command.
- (9:58:40 PM) pj: lol
- (9:58:43 PM) Patrickdk: heh
- (9:58:46 PM) cesurasean: where do you see README.postfix?
- (9:58:50 PM) Patrickdk: !rob0
- (9:58:50 PM) knoba: Patrickdk: "rob0" : a pathetic bot that reacts to newly joined users with reciting the !basic and !standard factoids
- (9:58:52 PM) Patrickdk: :)
- (9:59:06 PM) cesurasean: nevermind
- (10:00:39 PM) cesurasean: this is a lot of docs to read. which part explains how to set it up in postfix?
- (10:00:45 PM) cesurasean: i would imagine it's only 1 command to do this
- (10:01:17 PM) cesurasean: ok, it says for default do this; 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - n - - smtpd
- (10:01:26 PM) cesurasean: which is the same thing i told you guys i had, and you said wasn't part of amavis
- (10:01:27 PM) cesurasean: wtf?
- (10:01:31 PM) jimpop: cesurasean: yes, you are now on the right path
- (10:01:42 PM) cesurasean: (9:53:42 PM) cesurasean: i have this line. 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd
- (10:01:42 PM) cesurasean: (9:53:46 PM) cesurasean: isn't that amavis?
- (10:01:46 PM) Patrickdk: that isn't amavis
- (10:02:08 PM) Patrickdk: that is a normal smtp port (well, plain vanilla smtp receipt port)
- (10:02:09 PM) cesurasean: it's the same line of code amavis website has?
- (10:02:14 PM) Patrickdk: yep
- (10:02:21 PM) cesurasean: umm
- (10:02:21 PM) Patrickdk: cause amavis needs it to put email back into postfix
- (10:02:30 PM) cesurasean: oh
- (10:02:37 PM) cesurasean: so it's part of the config, but not amavis itself
- (10:02:39 PM) Patrickdk: but it doesn't help get email TO amavis
- (10:02:46 PM) cesurasean: ah
- (10:02:50 PM) cesurasean: i need a -o, right?
- (10:02:55 PM) pj: cesurasean: that is a special smtpd port you set up on postfix that amavis will use to re-inject the emails after it scans them.
- (10:02:57 PM) cesurasean: like i had for spamass?
- (10:03:48 PM) ***jimpop points out that THIS is why he dumped amavis and switched to milters. SOOO much easier.
- (10:03:54 PM) cesurasean: is this what i need? amavisfeed unix - - n - 2 smtp
- (10:04:13 PM) cesurasean: is that where it tells postfix to send to amavis?
- (10:04:21 PM) pj: cesurasean: yes
- (10:04:30 PM) cesurasean: ah.
- (10:04:33 PM) cesurasean: i see.
- (10:04:43 PM) Patrickdk: jimpop, I never liked milters
- (10:04:50 PM) cesurasean: how do i know it's working once ive done it?
- (10:04:56 PM) pj: you need to follow those directions and then ask us if you have problems.
- (10:05:01 PM) Patrickdk: used craploads of milters on sendmail, don't want to use them ever again
- (10:05:02 PM) cesurasean: or, how do i know whats actually taking place if spamass or clamav are working?
- (10:05:09 PM) pj: !tell cesurasean gtube
- (10:05:09 PM) knoba: cesurasean: "gtube" : Generic Test for Unsolicited Bulk Email - an eicar.com like spam signature that always should trigger spam filters. See http://spamassassin.apache.org/gtube/ or get the string here: !gtube_string
- (10:05:20 PM) pj: !tell cesurasean eicar
- (10:05:20 PM) knoba: cesurasean: "eicar" : A test signature that is detected by all common virus scanners. It is not a virus and thus completely harmless. Get the file from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file , or just !eicar_string
- (10:05:38 PM) cesurasean: ah, so i send those and that's how i test it?
- (10:05:42 PM) pj: cesurasean: also amavisd does log, so you can see in your logs
- (10:05:50 PM) cesurasean: ah. i see.
- (10:06:10 PM) Patrickdk: pj, great, now he will turn on verbose logs
- (10:06:16 PM) pj: lol
- (10:06:23 PM) pj: don't turn on verbose logs!
- (10:06:24 PM) thumbs: Patrickdk: oh, you ruined it.
- (10:06:26 PM) cesurasean: no i won't.
- (10:06:34 PM) cesurasean: thumbs, go away.
- (10:06:39 PM) cesurasean: people were helping me. :D
- (10:07:00 PM) ***Patrickdk is attempting to fill out his timesheet
- (10:07:03 PM) cesurasean: and, they did a pretty damn good job without you here.
- (10:07:06 PM) Patrickdk: anything is better than that :)
- (10:07:36 PM) thumbs: cesurasean: careful not to alienate them.
- (10:07:45 PM) cesurasean: LOL
- (10:08:04 PM) cesurasean: I don't understand the meaning of alienate. :)
- (10:08:13 PM) pj: obviously
- (10:08:19 PM) thumbs: cesurasean: I know you don't.
- (10:08:32 PM) cesurasean: nor do I care about it?
- (10:08:45 PM) ***pj sighs
- (10:08:54 PM) cesurasean: Worry too much about what other people think, and you won't go far in life.
- (10:09:25 PM) pj: don't worry at all and you may find yourself going through life alone.
- (10:09:36 PM) cesurasean: true.
- (10:10:02 PM) cesurasean: gotta find happy mediums, I suppose.
- (10:12:18 PM) cesurasean: here's a steve jobs quote for yall. - I’m sorry, it’s true. Having children really changes your view on these things. We’re born, we live for a brief instant, and we die. It’s been happening for a long time. Technology is not changing it much — if at all.
- (10:12:40 PM) cesurasean: funny he would say that.
- (10:14:08 PM) Patrickdk: only only worries about how pj sees me
- (10:15:43 PM) jimpop: steve jobs was adopted
- (10:15:50 PM) jimpop: adoption changes EVERYTHING
- (10:15:56 PM) cesurasean: what does this line mean? - retry unix - - - - - error
- (10:16:11 PM) cesurasean: he was adopted?
- (10:16:23 PM) jimpop: what did i just say?
- (10:17:08 PM) jimpop: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=steve+jobs+adopted
- (10:17:58 PM) ***jimpop scurries off to find a beer
- (10:18:27 PM) pj: cesurasean: man 8 error
- (10:19:09 PM) ***jimpop 8 fish for dinner
- (10:35:57 PM) cesurasean: what does this line do exactly? do i need this? - retry unix - - - - - error
- (10:41:07 PM) cesurasean: JELLO?
- (10:41:16 PM) cesurasean: do I need that line in my configs? or delete it?
- (10:42:11 PM) thumbs: cesurasean: what do you think it does?
- (10:42:21 PM) cesurasean: retries errors
- (10:44:25 PM) cesurasean: guys, is this the WAN? 192.0.2.1:25 inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter=amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10024 -o receive_override_options=no_address_mappings
- (10:44:33 PM) cesurasean: i need to setup something like this to filter?
- (10:45:50 PM) pj: cesurasean: have you read the master(5) man page yet?
- (10:49:31 PM) cesurasean: no
- (10:49:35 PM) cesurasean: link me to it, please.
- (10:49:36 PM) cesurasean: good sir
- (10:50:18 PM) pj: cesurasean: just type "man 5 master" into your shell
- (10:51:54 PM) cesurasean: do i need to do code like i pasted to do fiiltering?
- (10:52:04 PM) cesurasean: just change the ip address around?
- (10:52:22 PM) pj: that depends, you can do it from your main.cf as well
- (10:52:51 PM) cesurasean: or do i just put -o content_filter=amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10024 -o receive_override_options=no_address_mappings on my first line?
- (10:52:52 PM) pj: you understand what main.cf and master.cf are for and the difference between putting config directives in one vs the other, right?
- (10:53:03 PM) cesurasean: no.
- (10:53:20 PM) cesurasean: oh, yes
- (10:53:21 PM) cesurasean: i do
- (10:53:30 PM) pj: well, you need to understand that, and how they work.
- (10:53:37 PM) pj: then you can probably answer that question yourself.
- (10:53:46 PM) cesurasean: do i need to add this line to my config? - 192.168.1.100:25 inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter=amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10024 -o receive_override_options=no_address_mappings
- (10:54:09 PM) cesurasean: or can i just copy the -o whatever to my first line?
- (10:54:21 PM) cesurasean: do i need to specify the ip address?
- (10:54:26 PM) seekwill: heh
- (10:56:28 PM) pj: cesurasean: That depends on what you want it to do.
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- (11:03:16 PM) pj: cesurasean: pastebin your master.cf again and I'll have a quick look.
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- (11:11:54 PM) cesurasean: pj, is this right? - http://pastebin.com/HnCXptJP