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09:32 <K6|AFK>IcyMew, you're swimming across a sea full of aligators
09:32 <K6|AFK>your thread isn't gonna change anything
09:33 <K6|AFK>that hope left me long ago
09:33 <HeavenWraith>which thread
09:33 <HeavenWraith>the 1000 frag duel one?
09:33 <K6|AFK>the "essay"
09:33 <HeavenWraith>what the
09:34 <K6|AFK>you'll need to take a day vacation to read it, beware
09:34 <HeavenWraith>link
09:35 <K6|AFK>IcyMew, Decay maybe apologized to you to come up as the "cool guy" here, but he and his kind will continue doing what they are doing
09:35 <Qent>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31228 linkeh
09:35 <LinkBot>Website Title: Skulltag • View topic - [Essay] Skulltag: Abuse Goes Unpunished [Narrative]
09:37 <K6|AFK>man, that thread made my phone discharge at work as I was reading it
09:38 <Qent>haha
09:43 <Konda>What the fuck?
09:43 <Konda>Do you know that your average player is not going to bother reading that?
09:43 <Qent>It is targeted at the moderators
09:44 <Qent>not average players
09:45 <HeavenWraith>so it was all because of that shoot vs * argument
09:45 <K6|AFK>I think that was just the last straw
09:45 <HeavenWraith>if so you, everyone invloved is just silly
09:45 <HeavenWraith>errr
09:45 <HeavenWraith>-you
09:45 <HeavenWraith>how did it get there
09:45 <Konda>Oh man, this is just like the Skulltag going open source thread
09:45 <K6|AFK>also everyone in love :v
09:45 <Konda>so long posts, and I know that I'm not going to find out anything new
09:45 <K6|AFK>haha
09:46 <Konda>because someone summarized the whole thing in 2 sentences over at IRC
09:46 <Qent>I dunno, the hug and make up part was pretty unexpected for me
09:46 <Qent>lolponies
09:47 <Qent>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=395878#p395878 for Konda
09:47 <LinkBot>Website Title: Skulltag • View topic - [Essay] Skulltag: Abuse Goes Unpunished [Narrative]
09:47 <IcyMew>Heh.
09:47 <IcyMew>I am well aware of what I'm into right now.
09:47 <IcyMew>And that will change nothing
09:47 <IcyMew>Their resistance gives me strength.
09:48 <IcyMew>Deep down you know I am fighting for what may not be popular.
09:48 <IcyMew>But what is right.
09:48 <IcyMew>What is hard to say.
09:48 <IcyMew>And harder to do.
09:48 <IcyMew>That's more than what you can say for yourself.
09:48 <IcyMew>Let me fight it alone if you'd wish.
09:48 <IcyMew>That says volumes about each and every one of you.
09:48 <Konda>I see
09:48 <IcyMew>Personally his apology is taken for what it is not a victory.
09:48 <Konda>Thanks, Qent ;)
09:49 <IcyMew>I don't relish it for a victory.
09:49 <Konda>So, why are you in a grudge with decay?
09:49 <IcyMew>It doesn't matter.
09:49 <IcyMew>I have no qualm with Decay.
09:49 <Konda>And don't go emo here at IRC
09:49 <IcyMew>You will not sway me with your demotivations.
09:49 <Qent>And that is why it is, in fact, a true victory.
09:50 <Konda>Yeah, but you don't have to do it OVER HERE
09:50 <IcyMew>Then tell me to leave.
09:50 <IcyMew>And I shall.
09:50 <IcyMew>If I am not wanted.
09:50 <IcyMew>Let me know.
09:50 <IcyMew>I will remove myself.
09:50 <IcyMew>If you discuss a topic
09:50 <IcyMew>Expect a response from me.
09:50 <IcyMew>It's that simple
09:50 <IcyMew>Do not take potshots and run and hide.
09:50 <IcyMew>I will not back down.
09:50 <Konda>Yes, I just want to know what the hell is going on, not poetry
09:50 <IcyMew>It's all in the thread.
09:50 <IcyMew>Do your own legwork.
09:50 <IcyMew>Or sit down.
09:51 <Qent>I sympathize with your cause, but I believe that you are attempting to accomplish it in a way that is counterproductive.
09:51 <IcyMew>What would you propose?
09:51 <Qent>Tolerance
09:51 <IcyMew>I merely want the response of the staff. And a side objective is to refute all points that would attempt to undermine me without proper support.
09:51 <Qent>Not to take more abuse, far from it
09:51 <IcyMew>Tolerance has gotten us to this point.
09:51 <IcyMew>Okay.
09:51 <Qent>no
09:51 <IcyMew>Tolerance of?
09:51 <Qent>you have been taking abuse
09:52 <IcyMew>I have been more than tolerant of it.
09:52 <IcyMew>I went through proper channels.
09:52 <IcyMew>And I was shot down by two separate people.
09:52 <IcyMew>Unaddressed.
09:52 <Qent>What I propose is that many of the things that you now consider abuse, should not be.
09:52 <IcyMew>By the same token
09:52 <IcyMew>Mobius has brought to my attention
09:52 <IcyMew>An oversight on my part.
09:52 <IcyMew>The staff can essentially do what the want for any reason or none at all.
09:53 <IcyMew>It's in the TOS when you register.
09:53 <IcyMew>So by that token.
09:53 <IcyMew>I suppose that this is fruitles because.
09:53 <IcyMew>this joker can always be played.
09:53 <IcyMew>When I have them in a check.
09:53 <IcyMew>They can reverse it to checkmate me.
09:53 <Qent>It was always so, and it is impossible for it to be any different
09:53 <K6|AFK>my view, as a player's view is that the moderators don't have the guts to deal with these elitist players. I can see harmless posts being frowned upon instead of such plain personal insults
09:53 <K6|AFK>these players are well connected with altdrama
09:53 <Qent>Ordinary users have no capability to enforce rules on moderators
09:54 <K6|AFK>and nobody wants to see himself being bashed over by altdramatics
09:54 <IcyMew>Your arguments lack potency or support Qent, get to the point. I am well versed with this rhetoric.
09:54 <IcyMew>What do you propose?
09:54 <K6|AFK>because that's what happens whenever the staff touches their toys
09:54 <Qent>ah yes
09:54 <Qent>What I was saying about tolerance
09:55 <IcyMew>K6 I have the guts to face these people.
09:55 <IcyMew>If I can staff should too.
09:55 <Qent>When attacked, you could do everything in your power to justify your attacker. He will be the better for it because he will not have abused someone
09:55 <IcyMew>I am literally calling all of them out. Everyone.
09:55 <K6|AFK>I refused being a moderator when I was offered the task some time ago
09:55 <Qent>and you will benefit as well because you would have evaded an attack
09:56 <Qent>For example Decay's Shoot! post could easily have been interpreted as harmless if you chose
09:56 <IcyMew>You are speaking in veiled generalized ideas. Bring them to a concrete form, offer me an example, a practical us-
09:56 <IcyMew>You're telling me to get over it
09:56 <IcyMew>Essentially
09:56 <IcyMew>And I will not accept that.
09:56 <IcyMew>It is not my duty.
09:56 <Konda>Your first post contains a lot of irrelevant information. TL;DR
09:56 <IcyMew>You're rehashing the same things over and over again.
09:56 <Qent>No, I am telling you that you could have had nothing to get over
09:56 <IcyMew>Then don't read it.
09:56 <IcyMew>You're telling me to ignore it
09:56 <Konda>I already said TL;DR
09:56 <IcyMew>It's the same thing in practice.
09:56 <IcyMew>Just a slight variation.
09:56 <Qent>No there is a subtle difference here
09:57 <IcyMew>I said there is a slight variation
09:57 <IcyMew>Want to play synonyms?
09:57 <IcyMew>I won't accept anything of the like.
09:57 <Qent>because if you take hostile remarks as friendly, then there will have been no offense
09:57 <IcyMew>I refer you to my entire thread.
09:57 <IcyMew>And all resources.
09:57 <Qent>I have read them all.
09:57 <IcyMew>Read, check perspective, and see I've already addressed your point.
09:57 <Qent>My conclusion is the same.
09:58 <IcyMew>Then there is nothing more I have to say to you.
09:58 <IcyMew>That is your mindset, not mine or that of the general population.
09:58 <Qent>Then just think: What if it were me? What would I have done?
09:58 <IcyMew>I assure you most people don't hug people with knives aimed at their throats.
09:58 <Qent>It was my hope that everyone here would be better than the general popuplation.
09:59 <IcyMew>Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. I'm willing to take the disappointment and turn it into determination.
09:59 <K6|AFK>Qent, you're suggesting we should take Decay's "only retards play shoot" as a friendly remark? :v
09:59 <Qent>Eeyup.
09:59 <AlexMax>I was just crushed by a wall of text
10:00 <K6|AFK>this attitude from elitists drives players away
10:00 <AlexMax>help
10:00 <AlexMax>i'm typing this on my smartphone with my pinky
10:00 <IcyMew>K6 I agree.
10:00 <IcyMew>Lmao.
10:00 <K6|AFK>next time IcyMew probably won't play/post her games again
10:00 <IcyMew>You're right.
10:00 <IcyMew>I certainly will not.
10:00 <IcyMew>If this ends as I see it will.
10:00 <K6|AFK>if this is what comes from playing a friendly match
10:00 <AlexMax>hey
10:00 <IcyMew>I will extricate myself.
10:00 <AlexMax>k6
10:00 <IcyMew>And put myself as a pariah.
10:00 <Qent>Although, there has been much building up to this. If IcyMew were inclined to interpret it as a friendly remark, then Decay could not have been so abrasive.
10:00 <AlexMax>i'm going to prove you wrong
10:00 <AlexMax>with one line
10:00 <AlexMax>are you ready?
10:00 <K6|AFK>please don't
10:00 <Qent>Hostility has been building for some time.
10:01 <K6|AFK>I don't want to see any dewwwwww's quotes or anything
10:01 <Dusk>ah, skulltag competition
10:01 <K6|AFK>heh
10:01 <IcyMew>Qent I really am tolerant of a lot of people. I help out a lot of people.
10:01 <IcyMew>I train, talk to, spend time with people.
10:01 <IcyMew>And you're telling me I should do better?
10:01 <IcyMew>How about the other people?
10:01 <Konda>This is more than competition
10:01 <IcyMew>What the hell about them?
10:01 <IcyMew>THEY could have not done that.
10:01 <Konda>people are getting emotionally involved in a game
10:01 <Konda>good fucking job
10:01 <IcyMew>THEY could have decided not to.
10:01 <Qent>"Better," not "more" which seems to be what you're suggesting.
10:01 <AlexMax>K6|AFK: http://store.steampowered.com/stats/?snr=1_4_4__10
10:01 <LinkBot>Website Title: Steam: Game and Player Statistics
10:02 <K6|AFK>if I played a game on d2duel1 and posted it on the forum, what responses would I get? "Only retards play d2duel1"
10:02 <IcyMew>Hey Qent, you can't ignore that.
10:02 <IcyMew>So address or concede.
10:02 <AlexMax>K6|AFK: CS 1.6, 71,993 players
10:02 <K6|AFK>relevance?
10:02 <AlexMax>K6|AFK: Dota 2, 34,441
10:02 <IcyMew>I'm suggesting that you take it from the other side of the coin.
10:02 <IcyMew>And clearly you can not.
10:02 <Konda>Hey, that's more than one line
10:02 <Qent>I appreciate that you are doing so much, but I still believe you need a "different kind" of tolerance
10:02 <AlexMax>two of the most elitist-attracting games in the history of mankind
10:02 <AlexMax>and they're fine
10:02 <AlexMax>gg
10:02 <IcyMew>I need more. I have given my soul Qent.
10:02 <IcyMew>It's all I can give.
10:02 <IcyMew>I can NOT give more.
10:02 <AlexMax>dota 2 isn't even out of beta yet
10:03 <IcyMew>I'm putting out everything I'm worth.
10:03 <IcyMew>All shreds of my life, existence...
10:03 <IcyMew>I'm even putting my love out here. I am showing all the tolerance and respect I can
10:03 <IcyMew>And if it's not enough.
10:03 <K6|AFK>why it was possible before to play any map and now the only maps you won't get bashed for are from duel32 (ex. shoot)
10:03 <IcyMew>Then I deserve what I get.
10:03 <IcyMew>IIn the end.
10:03 <IcyMew>I put myself in this position
10:03 <IcyMew>And now I will fight for what I believe in.
10:03 <Konda>IcyMew, you need to chill, man
10:03 <IcyMew>If that's not enough.
10:03 <IcyMew>Then so be it.
10:04 <Dusk>i myself tried that and failed pretty miserably
10:04 <Dusk>this place is so stubborn
10:04 <IcyMew>[09:55] Mobius: You should have went under the desk
10:04 <IcyMew>[09:55] Mobius: and not let him pull out when he was finished
10:04 <IcyMew>[09:55] Mobius: just keep it in there
10:04 <IcyMew>[09:57] IcyMew: Lmfao.
10:04 <IcyMew>[10:03] IcyMew: thanks mobius.
10:04 <Dusk>it can't be changed no matter what you try
10:04 <IcyMew>I love mobius.
10:04 <IcyMew>He made me laugh.
10:04 <IcyMew>I was talking about
10:04 <IcyMew>Apologizing to alan and him interrogating me
10:04 <IcyMew>And he comes up with this off the walls.
10:04 <K6|AFK>but yeah IcyMew, since all this is just a big theater and is not gonna change anything, you could be spending your time here differently, eg. hanging out with friends
10:05 <IcyMew>THIS is what I need.
10:05 <IcyMew>K6 you're right
10:05 <Qent>I have tried to tell you how I myself would handle it, but apparently it won't work for you
10:05 <AlexMax>listen
10:05 <IcyMew>I intend to do so.
10:05 <AlexMax>can someone give me
10:05 <IcyMew>Qent I appreciate it.
10:05 <AlexMax>like
10:05 <IcyMew>I cannot do that though
10:05 <IcyMew>Thanks for your opinion
10:05 <AlexMax>a 1 sentence summary
10:05 <Qent>I'm sorry :(
10:05 <IcyMew>I will try as best as I can.
10:05 <AlexMax>because right now IcyMew is sounding really stupid
10:05 <IcyMew>To be as ... respectful as I can.
10:05 <IcyMew>AlexMax.
10:05 <Konda>Well, if everyone just played the game without being too much of critics and talkative, none of this would have happened
10:05 <IcyMew>I apologize.
10:05 <IcyMew>I am a chatter box.
10:05 <AlexMax>you're not talking like a real person
10:05 <IcyMew>I talk too much.
10:05 <AlexMax>you're talking like a theatre major
10:05 <IcyMew>AlexMax - I'm a blowup doll.
10:06 <IcyMew>Lmfao.
10:06 <IcyMew>Haha mobius just said that.
10:06 <Qent>AlexMax: you need to take Elaboratese
10:06 <AlexMax>did he?
10:06 <IcyMew>Why is he so funny.
10:06 <Dusk>to be perfectly honest
10:06 <Dusk>you are
10:06 <AlexMax>theatre majors aren't real people
10:06 <IcyMew>Lmao, I'm not a real person.
10:06 <AlexMax>they let their emotions drive who they are
10:06 <IcyMew>You're right.
10:06 <IcyMew>I'm a slave to my emotions.
10:06 <IcyMew>100%
10:06 <AlexMax>so its hard to tell what they're really thinking
10:06 <AlexMax>and what they're being overdramatic about
10:06 <AlexMax>for effect
10:06 <Qent>fond memories of translating Merespeak into IRC
10:07 <Konda>I hope you are being sarcastic now, IcyMew
10:07 <IcyMew>I am not.
10:07 <IcyMew>I'm agreeing
10:07 <IcyMew>Because he's right.
10:07 <Konda>well that's just sad
10:07 <IcyMew>It's sad but true.
10:07 <IcyMew>He has a valid point
10:07 <IcyMew>And I can not refute it.
10:07 <IcyMew>Because it is an undeniable fact.
10:07 <Konda>you can, but you haven't tried
10:07 <IcyMew>To do so would be delusion.
10:07 <Konda>you think you can't
10:07 <IcyMew>And a lie.
10:07 <IcyMew>I know I can not.
10:07 <Konda>but, you haven't tried.
10:07 <IcyMew>Because he sees with clarity.
10:07 <AlexMax>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terseness
10:08 <AlexMax>learn it
10:08 <IcyMew>Lmao.
10:08 <Qent>that was a neatly short and concise definition
10:08 <AlexMax>also
10:08 <AlexMax>fyi
10:08 <AlexMax>even though you cyberd soul to troll him
10:08 <AlexMax>you still cybered him
10:08 <Qent>ROFL
10:09 <IcyMew>Owned
10:09 <AlexMax>hold that
10:09 <IcyMew>Ok I can talk now
10:09 <AlexMax>HOLD THAT
10:09 <IcyMew>Enter was being dumb.
10:09 <AlexMax>gg
10:09 <AlexMax>GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
10:09 <IcyMew>I cannot devolve my eloquence to such a brash, envenomed field of quippy punctuality! <---
10:09 <AlexMax>GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
10:09 <AlexMax>GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
10:09 <IcyMew>Alexmax.
10:09 <AlexMax>GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
10:09 <IcyMew>Altdeath
10:09 <IcyMew>NOW.
10:09 <IcyMew>Make a thread about it.
10:09 <IcyMew>Do it.
10:09 <Qent>i c wut u did thar
10:09 <IcyMew>Hey it was funny.
10:09 <IcyMew>What's to hate about it?
10:09 <IcyMew>If it's right and it's funny.
10:10 <IcyMew>Can't argue with it too much without laughing.
10:12 <Qent>Quote thread?
10:12 <K6|AFK>SoulSucka is really stupid that he thought it's real
10:12 <Qent>It was real for him :o
10:12 <K6|AFK>aha
10:12 <K6|AFK>you're right
10:12 <Konda>They.... cybered?
10:12 <IcyMew>Lmfao have you read anything at all?
10:12 <K6|AFK>but for aldtrama it wasn't :)
10:12 <Konda>you have to be kidding me
10:12 <Konda>:V
10:12 <IcyMew>Konda: Look for the pastebins if you're so inclined.
10:12 <Qent>Konda: Nope.
10:12 <IcyMew>That said.
10:13 <K6|AFK>Konda, there are logs everywhere, what are you doing around here, damn
10:13 <IcyMew>This will make great resources for the thread.