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  1. Mister: me: I think that the government should work on behalf of humanity, for the betterment of the species, so that we can alll flourish. that's why I support universal healthcare
  2. [8:20pm] FauxDeFraukt: Initially, don't expose the position that *all* gay fetuses should be scanned for.
  3. [8:20pm] Mister: him: i'm not a species! I'm an individual!
  4. [8:20pm] Mister: me: you are a homosapien are you not?
  5. [8:20pm] FauxDeFraukt: Propose the idea that teens, and other people that are ALREADY coming to have abortions should be scanned for gay fetuses, and only those ones should be the ones allowed to get abotrions.
  6. [8:20pm] Mister: him: I was created by god! and it's the fault of al these damn athiests and godless people in the us that our country is falling
  7. [8:21pm] Mister: jesus chris, you've thought that out well
  8. [8:21pm] FauxDeFraukt: DMT, brah.
  9. [8:21pm] FauxDeFraukt: Hell of a drug.
  10. [8:21pm] Mister: haha, i've gotta do that some time
  11. [8:21pm] FauxDeFraukt: Highly recommend.
  12. [8:22pm] FauxDeFraukt: At least once.
  13. [8:22pm] FauxDeFraukt: For someone.
  14. [8:22pm] FauxDeFraukt: By the way, universal healthcare is crock, and you were both wrong. P
  15. [8:22pm] Quasimod0: hi
  16. [8:22pm] FauxDeFraukt: Hello Quasimod0.
  17. [8:22pm] Quasimod0: http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx
  18. [8:22pm] weedit-bot: Title: C-SPAN Live Stream - C-SPAN (at www.c-span.org)
  19. [8:24pm] Quasimod0: eat that shit
  20. [8:24pm] bittwist: lol, politics
  21. [8:24pm] FauxDeFraukt: Imagine that, bt
  22. [8:25pm] thedude left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
  23. [8:34pm] prahu: a summary of the past year of healthcare reform in  american, for anybody interested:
  24. [8:34pm] prahu: I. we're all fucked and nothing will ever change
  25. [8:34pm] prahu:   1. we're all fucked
  26. [8:34pm] prahu:     a. nothing will ever change
  27. [8:34pm] prahu: welp i hope you're all up to speed now
  28. [8:34pm] Mister: yup
  29. [8:35pm] Quasimod0: yup
  30. [8:36pm] bittwist: the ability of able bodied voters to remain passive while private entities tighten control of the gov never ceases to shock me
  31. [8:36pm] bittwist: hay guys, things will always remain the same, even though they obviously wont
  32. [8:36pm] FauxDeFraukt: The wonderful thing is that beyond this paralysis of vision, change is inevitable. I don't mean that in a loose, hazy, aphoristic, seen but not observed capacity.
  33. [8:37pm] bittwist: so lets use that as an excuse to let things be
  34. [8:37pm] FauxDeFraukt: I mean that: change is coming. We know what it is.
  35. [8:37pm] FauxDeFraukt: We know what's changing.
  36. [8:37pm] FauxDeFraukt: And it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see most of the ripple effects.
  37. [8:37pm] bittwist: but hey, this is not ##politics
  38. [8:37pm] • bittwist tokes
  39. [8:37pm] signpost joined the chat room.
  40. [8:37pm] FauxDeFraukt: 1. Ecological damage, collage. 2. Economic collapse, 3. Resource collapse.
  41. [8:37pm] FauxDeFraukt: All feeding into eachother.
  42. [8:38pm] prahu: well all we can do now is just let the baby boomers die, so might as well smoke out and chill until its time to rebuild
  43. [8:38pm] FauxDeFraukt: We can identify each individual problem, and observe/project the nexus of causal relationships which will generate secondary, tertiary, etc. levels of effects.
  44. [8:38pm] FauxDeFraukt: No, we don't have time to wait around, we gotta move.
  45. [8:38pm] bittwist: FauxDeFraukt: bowl of dicks
  46. [8:38pm] FauxDeFraukt: bittwist: Fish, poof.
  47. [8:38pm] FauxDeFraukt: So, to continue with a parable.
  48. [8:39pm] prahu: well whatever we do, we shouldn't be moving through existing institutions, which are all part of the problem
  49. [8:39pm] FauxDeFraukt: Humanity is like a sleeping man in a dangerous forest, full of armed robbers - his own twisted reflections - as well as dangerous natural wildlife, vicious beasts, creeping and poisonous fauna, etc.
  50. [8:39pm] prahu: the political system has been broken longer than I've been alive
  51. [8:39pm] FauxDeFraukt: prahu: In that, we are absolutely in agreement.
  52. [8:39pm] FauxDeFraukt: Addressing, or becoming involved in the political game is a waste of time.
  53. [8:40pm] prahu: indeed
  54. [8:40pm] bittwist: wrecking it on the other hand
  55. [8:40pm] FauxDeFraukt: 99% of the issues discussed, and 99% of the commentary about those issues is bullshit, pure fabrication to entrap the argumentative mind and entrench it in a myriad of different positions.
  56. [8:40pm] bittwist: useful and fun
  57. [8:40pm] FauxDeFraukt: These positions are taken to construe our political identity, it is nothing less than very subtle identity politics, training people in rote positions, isms, ideologies, complex belief structures developed by the appointed thinkers.
  58. [8:40pm] prahu: yeah exactly
  59. [8:40pm] FauxDeFraukt: Said in another channel,  but relevant here.
  60. [8:40pm] prahu: yeah
  61. [8:40pm] FauxDeFraukt: Humanity is asleep in this dangerous wilderness.
  62. [8:40pm] prahu: and you're really trapped in that quagmire universe as long as you watch tv
  63. [8:40pm] Jennings left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
  64. [8:41pm] FauxDeFraukt: A beast stalks him, and now he has put down his shield of wariness and wakefulness, and gone to sleep.
  65. [8:41pm] FauxDeFraukt: The beast dare not attack when the man is awake, but now the man is asleep, his breath warms this unfortunately one's neck.
  66. [8:41pm] FauxDeFraukt: The jaws are closing around his neck, and his eyelids begin to flicker.
  67. [8:41pm] FauxDeFraukt: He still has time.
  68. [8:41pm] FauxDeFraukt: It's 11:59:59
  69. [8:41pm] • FauxDeFraukt fires the gun in the air.
  70. [8:41pm] FauxDeFraukt: Go.
  71. [8:41pm] FauxDeFraukt: The race is on.
  72. [8:41pm] FauxDeFraukt: Wake up or die.
  73. [8:41pm] prahu: lol
  74. [8:42pm] prahu: indeed
  75. [8:42pm] FauxDeFraukt: breath warms this unfortunate one's neck.
  76. [8:42pm] FauxDeFraukt: *
  77. [8:42pm] FauxDeFraukt: Scuse me, didn't come out as planned.
  78. [8:43pm] FauxDeFraukt: There was a technical error somewhere between the chair and the keyboard.
  79. [8:43pm] FauxDeFraukt: Malfunctioning fleshprism hardware.
  80. [8:44pm] prahu: wooooooooooooooooo carbon life
  81. [8:45pm] FauxDeFraukt: Starseed and dirt, yo.
  82. [8:46pm] FauxDeFraukt: And now this is the point where we part company after having passed so joyfully through the halls of socioeconomics and political arenas in rough agreement.
  83. [8:47pm] FauxDeFraukt: I will sit here and tell you that I am god, and not only am I god, so are you. So is all that is, there is no evil, and the universe is fundamentally pure. We have become deranged, asleep, and dream evil dreams turned to nightmares,
  84. [8:47pm] FauxDeFraukt: and so our nightmares are rippling in dreamlike patterns across the world, we have tainted our little corner of an essentially infinite universe, within a universe, within a universe.
  85. [8:47pm] FauxDeFraukt: Many people see something of this on hallucinogenic drugs, but they've only busted open a book, they haven't learned the chapters.
  86. [8:48pm] FauxDeFraukt: 84,000 precious teachings, the awakened ones have counted them all, having studied them for countless aeons, with time itself as their instructor.
  87. [8:49pm] FauxDeFraukt: So the ultimate teacher is time, a process that emerges from within. Hindus call "him" Shiva, or Kala, and they call his spouse Kali.
  88. [8:49pm] FauxDeFraukt: There are two Kalis, one means Black, and is associated with a demon king, a human projection of anthropomorphized evil, a psychological phantasm.
  89. [8:49pm] FauxDeFraukt: The other is the feminine form of Kala, time.
  90. [8:50pm] Caly_: gee, the hasch around here theese days are fkn useless...
  91. [8:50pm] FauxDeFraukt: The ah suffix is male, the ee suffix is female in Sanskrit pronunciation.
  92. [8:50pm] FauxDeFraukt: Caly_: Skillful topic change, noted, but I'm not quite done yet.
  93. [8:51pm] thedude joined the chat room.
  94. [8:51pm] FauxDeFraukt: Anyway, Kala/Shiva/Time is the ultimate teacher, seek him within as one of your own true faces behind the mask of the ego that blinds us from the gods within and without, even causing us to observe this split, this schizoid perception of separateness, so that we identify a  "within" and without."
  95. [8:51pm] bittwist: see
  96. [8:51pm] FauxDeFraukt: A subject, and an object, a mode of subject-object perception other than pure knowing.
  97. [8:51pm] FauxDeFraukt: And this is why you should avoid DMT.
  98. [8:51pm] Caly_: FauxDeFraukt: sorry for me butting in lige that, i'll read up while you (please) continue
  99. [8:51pm] bittwist: this is what you get for bringing up politics outside of a political setting with chris
  100. [8:51pm] bittwist: a giant bowl of dicks
  101. [8:52pm] FauxDeFraukt: Heh.
  102. [8:52pm] bittwist: <3
  103. [8:52pm] bittwist: btw
  104. [8:52pm] FauxDeFraukt: <3
  105. [8:52pm] FauxDeFraukt: And that is our anchoring in righteousness, that thing we call love, and in whose name we do so much harm to ourselves and others.
  106. [8:53pm] FauxDeFraukt: Dispense with all ideas of a limited love, do not love your parents, do not love your friends, do not love yourself, do not love the people you sleep with, don't love your children, don't love your siblings.
  107. [8:53pm] FauxDeFraukt: You don't know what it is you're loving, you don't even know what love is. I say "you" in general, addressing humanity, please don't take it personally. Perhaps I should say "we" and include myself in this estimate.
  108. [8:54pm] FauxDeFraukt: That which you think you love is not as it appears to you, what you see is an illusion, a phantasm, an intellectual hologram reconstituted from observations of the external world in your mental masturbatorium of the thinking, stategizing mind.
  109. [8:54pm] FauxDeFraukt: When it has no need to strategize, no need to think.
  110. [8:55pm] FauxDeFraukt: An insatiable lust spurs us on through the silence of eternity, from thought to thought, experience to experience, so afraid of this silence and its imagined boredom and ignorance, that we are even willing to project the existence of evil, and then act that evil out in our psychological, social and ecological spheres of existence.
  111. [8:57pm] FauxDeFraukt: Some other form of love must arise within us if we are to have the strength to imbue reality with truthful meaning. The metaphorical stainless heart of absolute love and the transparent mind of pure wisdom are synonymous and undifferentiated.
  112. [8:58pm] FauxDeFraukt: This love - let's call it adoration instead, must accept all others as one's own intimate consciousness, and work altruistically for their well-being, gracefully accepting their help in your well being, or their condemnation and torture of you, with the same quiet dignity
  113. [8:59pm] FauxDeFraukt: You can do this because you are an eternal mind, and you are in no way stained, warped or in the slightest way controlled by any situation you do not wish to be involved in. Physical pain and discomfort can completely cease to have relevance if your mastery is of this level. How can it, when you are infinite bliss?
  114. [9:00pm] Caly_: FauxDeFraukt: imo, that sounds neither specifically like politics or religion in my ears, i find those arguments to be true even within (real) science
  115. [9:00pm] FauxDeFraukt: Yet at the same time, you must ache with the pain of the world, you must go to the precipice of enlightenment and turn back from all forms of personal liberation and escapism. This dream world we live in isn't a hell to escape, it's a heaven that we are dreaming to be a hell, and perpetuating through our primitive beliefs about reality.
  116. [9:01pm] FauxDeFraukt: Why run away from what we created for ourselves to enjoy in pure goodness, without even the faintest trace of evil? At that level, there is not event he concept of "good," it requires no semantic categorization, it is simply lived.
  117. [9:02pm] FauxDeFraukt: There is still a potential here, despite all of the odds we've stacked against our future, that humanity can emerge intact from this period of doom, and not only emerge intact, but quite literally become god.
  118. [9:03pm] FauxDeFraukt: Now for some even crazier DMT psychobabble.
  119. [9:03pm] FauxDeFraukt: A very long time ago, before the beginning, so much so that to even speak of this is akin to discussing what's North of the northpole, but I will do so anyway, riding these apparent paradoxes as my vehicle of illumination.
  120. [9:03pm] FauxDeFraukt: We all gathered in a no-place.
  121. [9:04pm] FauxDeFraukt: We all is us, those of us who are present in this place. There are an infinitude of us, infinite cardinalities of infinitudes. All of us are differentiated and unique, yet all of us are absolutely one being.
  122. [9:05pm] FauxDeFraukt: As one, we spoke, each one communicating its interests, and so a script came about. Instantly, so to speak, though there is still no time. This script was based on previous knowledge of past times, for this is not the first time the universe has spontaneously come into being, nor will it be the last.
  123. [9:05pm] FauxDeFraukt: This is our divine play.
  124. [9:06pm] FauxDeFraukt: We discussed, in that single non-instant instant, everything that would come about in the play, each of us asserting our holy part and role, we are simultaneously the director, and all of the actors.
  125. [9:06pm] FauxDeFraukt: The actors are the director, the director is the actor, and we also get to be the audience and witness to this.
  126. [9:06pm] Mister left the chat room. (Quit: Mister)
  127. [9:07pm] FauxDeFraukt: Why are we having divine plays? Because we, god, are a dreamer. There is only one being who exists, who ever existed or will ever exist. Only one. Everything that exists exists by Her will which is also His will.
  128. [9:07pm] FauxDeFraukt: Though we are one, we are not alone, have never been alone, the concept of loneliness doesn't even exist in this noplace.
  129. [9:08pm] FauxDeFraukt: But still, parts of us wish to dream, and so we facilitate this.
  130. [9:08pm] FauxDeFraukt: Somewhere along the line, something happened. In order to bring about this three-level dream - the formless layer, the sublime form layer (dreams) and the desire-form layer (material reality), it was necessary to create a tool of falsity.
  131. [9:09pm] FauxDeFraukt: Physical bodies, inhabited in such a way as to necessitate the introduction of evolution and death, are dependent on a factor for their arising.
  132. [9:09pm] FauxDeFraukt: That factor is of course, devolutionary impulses and survival. An individuating process occurs causing each creature to zealousy protect its own interests.
  133. [9:10pm] FauxDeFraukt: As humans, we also have the capacity to protect the interests of otehrs, but mostly out of ultimately selfish, self-interest reasons. IE: we identify their interests with our interests.
  134. [9:10pm] FauxDeFraukt: Or they are our interest.
  135. [9:10pm] FauxDeFraukt: This has brought about the ego, a phantasm, a diseaselike derangement of sight and being that blinds us from God and all the gods which are within and without, no less than our own intimate consciousness.
  136. [9:11pm] FauxDeFraukt: We, the Self, has never been anything less than undimmed consciousness, there is no "other," our uniqueness is assured, but it proceeds completely dependent upon the underlying oneless, and totally interdependent on all other forms of uniqueness we honor as part of us, as oneness. Deities are simply identities, uniquenesses, pure manifestations of the spectrum of consciousness we have seemingly divided ourselves up into, dream identities, dream beings, dreamed forth by the Dreamer.
  137. [9:11pm] thedude: i wish i could see inside your brian
  138. [9:12pm] FauxDeFraukt: In a very wondrous way, each of these divisions is an act of creation and oneness, in that they fall like seeds which sprout into the original tree, to produce its own seeds.
  139. [9:12pm] FauxDeFraukt: An infinite being infinitely reproducing through modes of exquisite bliss.
  140. [9:12pm] FauxDeFraukt: thedude: I pulped it with drugs.
  141. [9:12pm] FauxDeFraukt: Self-lobotomy, massive DMT overdose.
  142. [9:13pm] FauxDeFraukt: I'm just a crazy nutjob at this point.
  143. [9:13pm] FauxDeFraukt: I can never tell a court appointed psycho-analyst any of this.
  144. [9:13pm] thedude: how much have you taken?
  145. [9:13pm] FauxDeFraukt: I don't know, probably gone through a gram in the last week.
  146. [9:14pm] thedude: im loving everything your writing btw
  147. [9:14pm] FauxDeFraukt: Ah well, then i will continue. That Self is the real being that we are, that thing that we guard from displeasure, evil and pain, is none other than the self.
  148. [9:14pm] FauxDeFraukt: The ego convinces the self that the ego is synonymous with the self.
  149. [9:15pm] FauxDeFraukt: While the ego is, in a way, synonymous with god, because there is nothing that is not god, the ego must be seen with such a reductive sight in order for its god-nature to appear.
  150. [9:15pm] FauxDeFraukt: IE: the ego's god-nature is subsumed and hidden by a membrane, a phantasmic projection of not-god, even though its underlying construction is none other than a godly manifestation, as there can be nothing that is not god.
  151. [9:16pm] thedude: continue, i gota go eat ill read up when im done
  152. [9:16pm] FauxDeFraukt: We don't destroy this ego, because we can have no malice or destructive impulses towards God, in any form. Instead, we take a radically different approach.
  153. [9:16pm] FauxDeFraukt: Absorption.
  154. [9:17pm] FauxDeFraukt: Manifesting the power of adoration, love, we dissolve the ego with sight. Seeing the ego as composed purely of god, we make it so, because our problems aren't "real" per se, they are imagined. This is true with every lifeform on earth, but it's nto true of the god-nature that underlies everything equally.
  155. [9:17pm] FauxDeFraukt: All space and time is permeated by knowledge, this knowledge is akin to the Eternal Mind that joyfully roams its infinite expanse, roaming by... not going anywhere.
  156. [9:17pm] FauxDeFraukt: Where is there to go?
  157. [9:17pm] FauxDeFraukt: When you are everywhere.
  158. [9:17pm] FauxDeFraukt: As everything.
  159. [9:18pm] FauxDeFraukt: As everyone.
  160. [9:18pm] FauxDeFraukt: Whether they know it or not.
  161. [9:18pm] FauxDeFraukt: But in perfect deference to their uniqueness, never subjugating or forcing them even for a moment, for the impetus must come from within, as a true manifestation of their own discreet Self.
  162. [9:18pm] FauxDeFraukt: Force them not, but make the opportunity available.
  163. [9:18pm] FauxDeFraukt: Anyway, I'm done, that's my DMT fueled rant for the day, take it as you will.
  164. FauxDeFraukt: Fuck ti, onwards actually.
  165. [9:23pm] FauxDeFraukt: So this time, a long time ago.
  166. [9:24pm] FauxDeFraukt: We sang the universe into being, and in that universe, we sang other universes into being, before and during the dissolutions, where we sang them out of being.
  167. [9:26pm] Mister joined the chat room.
  168. [9:26pm] FauxDeFraukt: How this works is simple, before the end of the universe, we are all god. All the hells have been emptied, the way of punishment, self-punishment, has been forever abandoned, all beings, all things (which are beings, make no mistake,) are radiantly pure manifestations of voidlike oneness,
  169. [9:26pm] FauxDeFraukt:  empty unity, and so we wake up from the dream, having already woken from it. For a time, after waking, we will play in the dream, play with the vortexes of time.
  170. [9:27pm] FauxDeFraukt: Eventually time, the destroyer of worlds, destroys everything, all of the beings in the universe, not as in destroying a separate t hing, but these beings literally destroy themselves with time.
  171. [9:27pm] FauxDeFraukt: What're they actually destroying? Not their Selves, capital S, which is eternal, but their limited, phenomenal, quasi-created manifestations in the dream.
  172. [9:27pm] FauxDeFraukt: And so we come to a noplace of notime again, a plenum that has permeated everything in time, as places and times are in no way ever separate from this timeless noplace.
  173. [9:28pm] FauxDeFraukt: Some of us sink forever therein, in infinite bliss, in infinite knowledge. Others "gather" to create new universes, new divine plays, and plays within plays, plays within plays.
  174. [9:29pm] FauxDeFraukt: Others watch over these precedings as the witness, going forth as needed to bail out the participants who have become like amnesiac actors, forgetting they are playing a role in a divine play, a dream.
  175. [9:30pm] FauxDeFraukt: The amazing thing is, we are all of these beings, directly and indirectly, in all possible ways, all the time, everywhere, within and without, there is no difference.
  176. [9:30pm] FauxDeFraukt: Subject and object are complete dissolved, and both male and female energies have swung swords, simultaneously decapitating one another.
  177. [9:31pm] FauxDeFraukt: Nor is that metaphor different than their eternal, essentially sexual, union.
  178. [9:31pm] FauxDeFraukt: Okay, now I'm done.
  179. [9:31pm] • FauxDeFraukt drops the mic.
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