[20/07/2012 04:53:55] zzz: so what are you questions?
[20/07/2012 05:53:00] zzz: Hi giggsy152! I’d like to add you on Skype. zzz hey
[20/07/2012 06:12:47] Ryan: Ryan has shared contact details with zzz.
Ryan
[20/07/2012 08:58:05] zzz: zzz has shared contact details with El Ryano.
[20/07/2012 08:58:17] zzz: hey
[20/07/2012 08:58:28] Ryan: Hey.
[20/07/2012 08:58:51] Ryan: I just wanted to know your general experience of worjing with Messiah
[20/07/2012 08:59:08] zzz: umm .. everyone has a different experience
[20/07/2012 08:59:16] zzz: overall everyone around him likes him
[20/07/2012 08:59:22] zzz: especially kleopatra
[20/07/2012 08:59:40] Ryan: yeah, and I can't stand kelo
[20/07/2012 08:59:44] Ryan: *kleo
[20/07/2012 08:59:46] zzz: haha.. it's a cult
[20/07/2012 09:00:00] zzz: the story with me and kleo was a morbid one
[20/07/2012 09:00:11] zzz: kleo used to be wrathling
[20/07/2012 09:00:17] zzz: her real name is emily wilson
[20/07/2012 09:01:37] zzz: but yeah, i am not really into drama
[20/07/2012 09:01:56] zzz: and solomid forum is censored
[20/07/2012 09:02:02] Ryan: I don't want drama
[20/07/2012 09:02:03] Ryan: I just want
[20/07/2012 09:02:10] zzz: and i really dont want to this to go further
[20/07/2012 09:02:12] Ryan: another view of who I could potentially be working for
[20/07/2012 09:02:13] zzz: messiah got my point
[20/07/2012 09:02:20] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 09:02:22] zzz: quick question
[20/07/2012 09:02:25] zzz: do you get paid?
[20/07/2012 09:02:34] zzz: it's an "internship"
[20/07/2012 09:02:46] Ryan: Yup, that's what he said I'll be doing.
[20/07/2012 09:03:00] Ryan: for article writing.
[20/07/2012 09:03:12] Ryan: currently nothing as a standard mod.
[20/07/2012 09:03:26] zzz: if you get paid .. i am glad things changed
[20/07/2012 09:03:48] Ryan: well I'm not sure I entirely trust the statement that I will get paid.
[20/07/2012 09:04:00] Ryan: quite a few if's about it
[20/07/2012 09:04:06] zzz: umm i dont know
[20/07/2012 09:04:14] zzz: i dont run solomid anymore
[20/07/2012 09:04:20] Ryan: I noticed :P
[20/07/2012 09:04:38] zzz: but my knowledge is Messiah is incompetent
[20/07/2012 09:04:44] Ryan: but that's why I want to know more about his general character so I can work out for myself
[20/07/2012 09:04:57] zzz: he says things to please your ears
[20/07/2012 09:05:10] zzz: but will not mean it
[20/07/2012 09:05:15] zzz: lol.. so funny after my post
[20/07/2012 09:05:35] zzz: he tried to ddos.. or the ppl on his side "friends" ddos me
[20/07/2012 09:05:43] zzz: as all registered forum account has ip addy
[20/07/2012 09:05:59] Ryan: ..really o.o
[20/07/2012 09:06:00] zzz: umm i have more than one internet line
[20/07/2012 09:06:04] Ryan: seems...quite extreme
[20/07/2012 09:06:16] zzz: umm .. my post was deleted
[20/07/2012 09:06:24] zzz: they can say so many things about me
[20/07/2012 09:06:29] Ryan: Well yeah. we both knew that was going to happen
[20/07/2012 09:06:29] zzz: but when i refute what they said
[20/07/2012 09:06:46] zzz: umm if i really want everyone to read
[20/07/2012 09:06:50] zzz: i'd put it on youtube
[20/07/2012 09:06:52] zzz: or reddit
[20/07/2012 09:06:56] zzz: i jsut want to be left alone
[20/07/2012 09:06:58] zzz: and out of the drama
[20/07/2012 09:07:06] zzz: like .. id dont even know valkasha
[20/07/2012 09:07:10] zzz: and she says all this crap
[20/07/2012 09:07:25] Ryan: It's because people were never told the truth about it
[20/07/2012 09:07:37] zzz: yeah,, it would look really bad on solomid/ reginald
[20/07/2012 09:07:39] Ryan: probably the same with the whole TRM incident to an extent
[20/07/2012 09:07:42] zzz: if they were told the truth
[20/07/2012 09:07:50] zzz: :/ .. rainman got shafted
[20/07/2012 09:07:57] Ryan: No idea what happened with TRM, but it doesn't seem as simple as they make it seem
[20/07/2012 09:08:04] zzz: yup
[20/07/2012 09:08:18] zzz: umm i came into solomid with the intent of helping out
[20/07/2012 09:08:24] zzz: i didn 't ask for fame
[20/07/2012 09:08:47] zzz: at the same time, i am not a "maid" like valk claims to be
[20/07/2012 09:08:52] zzz: me to be
[20/07/2012 09:09:15] Ryan: well, I was probably the one person who said at the beginning it wouldn't work out well.
[20/07/2012 09:09:26] zzz: huh?
[20/07/2012 09:09:39] Ryan: Back when it was announced you'd be the coach
[20/07/2012 09:09:57] Ryan: Everybody was saying how great it was, I predicted itd go badly.
[20/07/2012 09:10:02] Ryan: But w/e, inda off topic
[20/07/2012 09:10:04] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 09:10:04] Ryan: *kinda
[20/07/2012 09:10:24] zzz: everything starts off with the relationship
[20/07/2012 09:10:27] zzz: of regi and I
[20/07/2012 09:10:34] zzz: I was involved in solomid way before anyone knows me
[20/07/2012 09:10:39] zzz: i dont like to be known
[20/07/2012 09:10:45] zzz: so when solomid first started
[20/07/2012 09:10:48] zzz: i was regi's advisor
[20/07/2012 09:10:50] zzz: strategist
[20/07/2012 09:10:53] zzz: mento
[20/07/2012 09:10:55] zzz: mentor
[20/07/2012 09:10:59] zzz: COO/ CFO
[20/07/2012 09:11:03] zzz: nobody knew me
[20/07/2012 09:11:11] zzz: so when regi "made" smart business decision
[20/07/2012 09:11:12] Ryan: Seems quite selfless
[20/07/2012 09:11:18] zzz: everyone thinks regi
[20/07/2012 09:11:24] zzz: was the smart bussiness man
[20/07/2012 09:11:29] zzz: if i never flew to new york
[20/07/2012 09:11:32] zzz: and stayed in the shadows
[20/07/2012 09:11:46] zzz: everything .. business wise with solomid wouldhave been great
[20/07/2012 09:11:59] zzz: but TSM as a team was falling on hard times
[20/07/2012 09:12:04] zzz: regi had an over agressive ego
[20/07/2012 09:12:11] zzz: worked too much hours on solomid
[20/07/2012 09:12:13] zzz: and was not focus
[20/07/2012 09:12:21] zzz: the team was a bunch of kids who could not work together
[20/07/2012 09:12:28] zzz: and could not take care of themselves
[20/07/2012 09:12:45] zzz: Valk blames everything on the rainman
[20/07/2012 09:12:53] zzz: but the main person at fault was Reginald
[20/07/2012 09:12:57] zzz: since he's the boss
[20/07/2012 09:13:01] zzz: everyone just shuts up
[20/07/2012 09:13:05] zzz: and stayed quiet
[20/07/2012 09:13:15] zzz: check all the past plays
[20/07/2012 09:13:21] zzz: and all the recording of how brutal
[20/07/2012 09:13:27] zzz: regi was to his teammates
[20/07/2012 09:13:41] Ryan: Yeah, a lot of people realised that at the time.
[20/07/2012 09:13:45] zzz: ummm
[20/07/2012 09:13:47] Ryan: I remember
[20/07/2012 09:13:49] zzz: so when i came in
[20/07/2012 09:13:51] Ryan: there was a huge argument
[20/07/2012 09:13:52] zzz: i fixed all the team problem
[20/07/2012 09:13:55] zzz: s
[20/07/2012 09:13:56] Ryan: which went on for over half an hour
[20/07/2012 09:13:58] Ryan: on livestream
[20/07/2012 09:14:00] zzz: yeah
[20/07/2012 09:14:29] zzz: umm the worst thing was ppl started giving jonas too much credit
[20/07/2012 09:14:45] zzz: Regi got jealous
[20/07/2012 09:14:52] zzz: thought i was trying to take over his company
[20/07/2012 09:14:55] zzz: which i did not
[20/07/2012 09:15:18] Ryan: Well, Messiah's words are
[20/07/2012 09:15:23] Ryan: for those of you who aren't aware, jonas is not welcome here
if jonas posts anything just delete all his posts and ban the account (make sure not to ipban)
tl;dr version of what happened: he wanted to rip us off, got emo that we aren't retarded and made lots of threats towards us. for those of you who over glorify him as the savior of tsm, you should know that he's really not and did not get along with many of the team members nor staff
[20/07/2012 09:15:31] Ryan: (In mod section)
[20/07/2012 09:15:43] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 09:15:51] zzz: total bullshit
[20/07/2012 09:16:04] Ryan: Yeah, I'm not exactly one to just believe one side.
[20/07/2012 09:16:06] zzz: how did i rip tsm off
[20/07/2012 09:16:10] Ryan: Hence I wanted to talk to you.
[20/07/2012 09:16:14] zzz: woah
[20/07/2012 09:16:26] zzz: now i feel like going on youtbe and telling the whole story
[20/07/2012 09:16:30] Ryan: I never was your biggest fan, some way off that. But that seems totally out of your character.
[20/07/2012 09:16:40] zzz: woah
[20/07/2012 09:16:44] zzz: i was right
[20/07/2012 09:16:49] zzz: messiah is a dbag
[20/07/2012 09:16:49] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 09:16:55] Ryan: You seem surprised? :P
[20/07/2012 09:16:57] zzz: he wanted to come to the tsm house
[20/07/2012 09:16:59] zzz: nah
[20/07/2012 09:17:01] zzz: i am not suprise
[20/07/2012 09:17:07] zzz: just suprise that he went that far
[20/07/2012 09:17:08] zzz: to flame me
[20/07/2012 09:17:22] zzz: i knew he was a two faced person
[20/07/2012 09:17:26] zzz: but .. for him to do that
[20/07/2012 09:17:36] Ryan: Just done to get mods on his side
[20/07/2012 09:17:38] Ryan: I'm guessing.
[20/07/2012 09:18:10] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 09:18:16] zzz: did he post that today?
[20/07/2012 09:18:19] zzz: or a long time ago?
[20/07/2012 09:18:23] Ryan: Yeah, after your post.
[20/07/2012 09:18:31] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 09:18:55] zzz: umm .. there was alot of crap from messiah
[20/07/2012 09:18:56] zzz: going on
[20/07/2012 09:19:00] zzz: so i just go sick of it
[20/07/2012 09:19:02] zzz: so i put that post
[20/07/2012 09:19:19] zzz: umm all the "mod" and ppl drink the messiah juice
[20/07/2012 09:19:43] Ryan: Well, like I've said before. People still don't know the true story.
[20/07/2012 09:20:02] Ryan: I've had to go onto your youtube, message you and get you on skype to even start and understand things
[20/07/2012 09:20:09] Ryan: Everybody else is in complete ignorance.
[20/07/2012 09:20:16] zzz: lol..
[20/07/2012 09:20:29] zzz: umm .. tbh
[20/07/2012 09:20:36] zzz: if they did not talk shit abo me
[20/07/2012 09:20:38] zzz: aboutme
[20/07/2012 09:20:44] zzz: i would never post that stuf
[20/07/2012 09:20:53] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 09:20:55] zzz: it it is not tr
[20/07/2012 09:20:56] zzz: true
[20/07/2012 09:21:02] zzz: why did he delete it so quick
[20/07/2012 09:21:03] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 09:21:48] zzz: now i am tempted to post everything on you tube
[20/07/2012 09:22:00] Ryan: Well, I pointed him towards the post.
[20/07/2012 09:22:04] Ryan: Then he deleted it.
[20/07/2012 09:22:07] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 09:22:11] Ryan: I wanted to know what went on
[20/07/2012 09:22:15] Ryan: Didn't get that info
[20/07/2012 09:22:17] Ryan: zzzz
[20/07/2012 09:22:24] Ryan: So yeah, here I am.
[20/07/2012 09:22:34] zzz: well.. i'll just let this one slip
[20/07/2012 09:22:37] zzz: i dont really care
[20/07/2012 09:22:38] zzz: i do
[20/07/2012 09:22:49] zzz: but i'll just create a wave of drama
[20/07/2012 09:23:08] Ryan: Well, you cannot be annoyed with people talking shit if you don't tell them the truth
[20/07/2012 09:23:19] zzz: then they will hate on regi
[20/07/2012 09:23:19] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 09:23:28] zzz: umm do you have a brother?
[20/07/2012 09:23:35] Ryan: Yes, two younger.
[20/07/2012 09:23:41] zzz: sibling rivalry
[20/07/2012 09:23:55] Ryan: Not really. They actually look up to me, for some unknown reason.
[20/07/2012 09:24:00] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 09:24:01] zzz: depends
[20/07/2012 09:24:04] zzz: on the family structure
[20/07/2012 09:24:07] Ryan: They're quite a bit younger.
[20/07/2012 09:24:10] Ryan: So, yeah.
[20/07/2012 09:24:16] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 09:24:22] zzz: i am still laughing on how i try to rip
[20/07/2012 09:24:23] zzz: tsm off
[20/07/2012 09:24:27] zzz: wth did i do
[20/07/2012 09:24:28] Ryan: any idea
[20/07/2012 09:24:32] Ryan: where that even came from?
[20/07/2012 09:24:59] Ryan: or is it just pure fabrication
[20/07/2012 09:25:17] zzz: ummm .. the drama will have to be pull back
[20/07/2012 09:25:23] zzz: since day 1 of how solomid was created
[20/07/2012 09:25:28] zzz: Dan screwed regi over
[20/07/2012 09:25:40] zzz: at IPL4.. after the team beat dignitas
[20/07/2012 09:25:47] zzz: regi took off to get drunk with his friends
[20/07/2012 09:25:52] zzz: i had to take care of the team
[20/07/2012 09:26:00] zzz: we all went to a buffet
[20/07/2012 09:26:07] zzz: there was xpecial gf
[20/07/2012 09:26:12] zzz: with some other ppl
[20/07/2012 09:26:25] zzz: i paid for them with my own credit card and joked that it's on solomid
[20/07/2012 09:26:38] zzz: Chaox snitched on me to reginald
[20/07/2012 09:26:41] zzz: reginald go drunked
[20/07/2012 09:26:49] zzz: told amy "starsorrow"
[20/07/2012 09:26:53] zzz: amy star sorrow told me about it
[20/07/2012 09:27:02] zzz: when someone accused me of somethign I did not do
[20/07/2012 09:27:05] zzz: i got fucken pissed
[20/07/2012 09:27:18] Ryan: ....sounds like Chinese whispers.
[20/07/2012 09:27:28] zzz: regi said i was being like Dan and taking advantage of him
[20/07/2012 09:27:33] zzz: if you knew what Dan did to regi
[20/07/2012 09:27:39] zzz: you would be disgusted
[20/07/2012 09:27:42] Ryan: I thought Dan and regi got along well
[20/07/2012 09:27:45] zzz: so I was like the fuck
[20/07/2012 09:27:48] zzz: ummm
[20/07/2012 09:27:54] zzz: they get along well to team up against me
[20/07/2012 09:27:58] zzz: a few years back
[20/07/2012 09:28:00] zzz: regi told me something
[20/07/2012 09:28:06] zzz: you know what Dat,
[20/07/2012 09:28:11] zzz: Dan and i went camping
[20/07/2012 09:28:17] zzz: and we found out we have something in common
[20/07/2012 09:28:25] zzz: we both hate you bc we try to catch up to you
[20/07/2012 09:28:32] zzz: but we cannot so we hate your for it
[20/07/2012 09:28:37] zzz: in school i was the best in the family
[20/07/2012 09:28:42] zzz: in sports i was the best in the family
[20/07/2012 09:28:54] zzz: when it came to work and jobs, i made money
[20/07/2012 09:29:04] zzz: that was before reginald grew solomid to a multi-million dollar company
[20/07/2012 09:29:10] zzz: so when my existence appeared
[20/07/2012 09:29:26] zzz: regi got jealous that i got all the credit
[20/07/2012 09:29:36] zzz: people were calling regi dumb
[20/07/2012 09:29:57] zzz: umm most of the business plan from prior to solomid developed an interact
[20/07/2012 09:30:00] zzz: was me advising him
[20/07/2012 09:30:05] Ryan: But how did dan screw regi over?
[20/07/2012 09:30:09] zzz: ummm
[20/07/2012 09:30:10] zzz: sorry
[20/07/2012 09:30:16] zzz: i dont want to bring dan down the drain
[20/07/2012 09:30:23] Ryan: Ah, that's fine.
[20/07/2012 09:30:29] zzz: so everyone was like
[20/07/2012 09:30:32] Ryan: I'm just compeletely surprised by that.
[20/07/2012 09:30:37] zzz: woah.. regii is soo smart
[20/07/2012 09:31:35] zzz: the thing with messiah and myself was this
[20/07/2012 09:31:38] zzz: when i left solomid
[20/07/2012 09:31:46] zzz: i requested to have all my content be removed
[20/07/2012 09:31:50] zzz: all my youtube video be removed
[20/07/2012 09:32:02] zzz: messiah gave me the middle finger
[20/07/2012 09:32:08] zzz: i am like there two choice
[20/07/2012 09:32:10] Ryan: ...really?
[20/07/2012 09:32:15] zzz: talk to my lawyer
[20/07/2012 09:32:20] zzz: or.. but the funny thing was
[20/07/2012 09:32:28] zzz: i created the solomid store from scratch
[20/07/2012 09:32:32] zzz: it was my baby
[20/07/2012 09:32:48] zzz: i told regi to open the store in june of 2011
[20/07/2012 09:32:52] zzz: he tells me he will
[20/07/2012 09:33:01] zzz: after the reease of the updated website
[20/07/2012 09:33:11] zzz: initially
[20/07/2012 09:33:13] zzz: regi said
[20/07/2012 09:33:19] zzz: who the hell is going to buy the shirts
[20/07/2012 09:33:24] zzz: i am like.. create a brand name
[20/07/2012 09:33:24] zzz: market it right
[20/07/2012 09:33:31] zzz: and sales will be very wel
[20/07/2012 09:33:44] zzz: regi tlold me he will have deveopers work on the store
[20/07/2012 09:33:49] zzz: and have it open in september
[20/07/2012 09:33:54] zzz: september came and pass
[20/07/2012 09:33:57] zzz: i told him again
[20/07/2012 09:34:00] zzz: he said october
[20/07/2012 09:34:04] zzz: october came and pass
[20/07/2012 09:34:06] zzz: i reminded him again
[20/07/2012 09:34:11] zzz: then november
[20/07/2012 09:34:12] zzz: then december
[20/07/2012 09:34:16] zzz: then i got pissed
[20/07/2012 09:34:21] zzz: and opened the store by myself
[20/07/2012 09:34:27] zzz: that's why it looked so unprofessionally done
[20/07/2012 09:34:39] zzz: i got all the vendors
[20/07/2012 09:34:41] Ryan: I didn't see it at the start.
[20/07/2012 09:34:42] zzz: created the account
[20/07/2012 09:34:44] Ryan: so can't say.
[20/07/2012 09:35:02] zzz: so i had access to i
[20/07/2012 09:35:09] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 09:35:11] zzz: when i left
[20/07/2012 09:35:55] zzz: i used the store as the barganing chip to have them removed my content
[20/07/2012 09:35:57] zzz: and videos
[20/07/2012 09:36:04] zzz: the store was making 1-2k a day
[20/07/2012 09:36:07] zzz: as ahigh as 17k
[20/07/2012 09:36:26] zzz: so regi had messiah removed all my content
[20/07/2012 09:36:32] Ryan: ...why did you want your content removed so badly?
[20/07/2012 09:36:36] zzz: ummm
[20/07/2012 09:36:49] zzz: i did not want to be associated with solomid
[20/07/2012 09:36:50] Ryan: and you could have easily done that yourself couldn't you?
[20/07/2012 09:36:54] zzz: nope
[20/07/2012 09:37:28] Ryan: well, I can hide all my posts as just a mod. You was an admin.
[20/07/2012 09:37:39] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 09:37:46] zzz: that was when they stripped my access
[20/07/2012 09:37:53] Ryan: Oh, they just did that without any warning?
[20/07/2012 09:37:57] zzz: yup
[20/07/2012 09:38:01] Ryan: ...oh.
[20/07/2012 09:38:08] Ryan: Figured there'd be...something.
[20/07/2012 09:38:23] zzz: my ideology of business
[20/07/2012 09:38:26] zzz: is grow fan based
[20/07/2012 09:38:33] zzz: with numbers money will come later
[20/07/2012 09:38:54] zzz: i wanted to focus and use the store's revenue to give back to the community
[20/07/2012 09:39:04] zzz: that's why when i was in ny
[20/07/2012 09:39:09] zzz: dyrus . oddone/ xpecial
[20/07/2012 09:39:16] zzz: even rainman and chaox
[20/07/2012 09:39:20] zzz: was giving away free shirts
[20/07/2012 09:39:23] zzz: and etc
[20/07/2012 09:39:34] zzz: wanted more fan involvement
[20/07/2012 09:39:43] zzz: when i first opened the store
[20/07/2012 09:39:51] zzz: it made a few hundered dollars a day
[20/07/2012 09:39:56] zzz: soon it was 1-2k
[20/07/2012 09:40:05] zzz: almost as much as what the site was doing
[20/07/2012 09:40:19] zzz: regi wanted all the profits without giving back
[20/07/2012 09:40:37] zzz: ummm i was not for the twitch.tv
[20/07/2012 09:40:47] Ryan: well, maximising profit is somewhat understandable
[20/07/2012 09:40:51] zzz: wanted to work with own3d for a more amicable
[20/07/2012 09:40:58] zzz: solution
[20/07/2012 09:40:58] Ryan: ....and fuck twitch.tv
[20/07/2012 09:41:06] Ryan: No idea what happened behind the scenes
[20/07/2012 09:41:12] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 09:41:14] Ryan: But fuck twitch.tv
awful in europe
[20/07/2012 09:41:20] zzz: profiits in the short run
[20/07/2012 09:41:21] zzz: is stupid
[20/07/2012 09:41:32] zzz: if you want to grow your brand name like nike
[20/07/2012 09:41:44] zzz: you got to heaviy invest in marketing
[20/07/2012 09:41:51] zzz: and actively promote the community
[20/07/2012 09:42:07] zzz: if everything is done correctly
[20/07/2012 09:42:17] zzz: the store would make not only 1-2k a day
[20/07/2012 09:42:25] zzz: but maybe 10-20k
[20/07/2012 09:42:44] zzz: people who care too much for the short term outlook
[20/07/2012 09:42:53] zzz: could not see far into the future
[20/07/2012 09:43:38] zzz: umm solomid over traffic went down 15-25% after i left
[20/07/2012 09:43:54] Ryan: Wait, sorry to go back for a second
[20/07/2012 09:44:04] Ryan: But would own3d really have been better in the long run?
[20/07/2012 09:44:19] Ryan: (Despite my hate for twitch, it seems to be on the up)
[20/07/2012 09:44:40] zzz: umm the overall growth of esports gaming
[20/07/2012 09:45:24] zzz: has not grown much
[20/07/2012 09:45:30] Ryan: really?
[20/07/2012 09:45:30] zzz: i mean it has grown
[20/07/2012 09:45:33] zzz: alot
[20/07/2012 09:45:36] zzz: but solomid
[20/07/2012 09:45:41] zzz: did not take advantage
[20/07/2012 09:45:44] zzz: of the growth
[20/07/2012 09:45:59] Ryan: well, it's become the #1 LoL franchise.
[20/07/2012 09:46:03 | Edited 09:46:06] Ryan: Hasn't done too badly.
[20/07/2012 09:46:08] zzz: ummm
[20/07/2012 09:46:16] zzz: not where i projected it to be
[20/07/2012 09:46:20] Ryan: Not saying it couldn't have been better.
[20/07/2012 09:46:45] zzz: umm i am not trying to discredit andy/reginald
[20/07/2012 09:46:49] zzz: solomid.net
[20/07/2012 09:46:53] zzz: is the number one website for lol
[20/07/2012 09:46:53] zzz: right now
[20/07/2012 09:47:16] zzz: it was the number 1 website
[20/07/2012 09:47:17] zzz: when i was there
[20/07/2012 09:47:23] zzz: and still the number 1 website
[20/07/2012 09:49:02] Ryan: Heh.
[20/07/2012 09:49:09] zzz: but to be big like curse
[20/07/2012 09:49:21] zzz: resources needed to be allocated in the right place
[20/07/2012 09:49:31] zzz: lol is not going to be around forever
[20/07/2012 09:49:42] zzz: it has another 5 yr life span
[20/07/2012 09:49:44] zzz: maybe more
[20/07/2012 09:49:55] zzz: solomid is worth 5-7 million right now
[20/07/2012 09:50:03] zzz: to make it grow to 50-100 million
[20/07/2012 09:50:16] zzz: it has to allocate resources efficiently
[20/07/2012 09:50:23] zzz: regi will do fine in his
[20/07/2012 09:50:27] zzz: llfe
[20/07/2012 09:50:29] zzz: he is set
[20/07/2012 09:50:52] zzz: i am just sick of people accusing me of abandoning tsm
[20/07/2012 09:51:10] Ryan: Like I said, as long as people don't know what actually happened
[20/07/2012 09:51:21] Ryan: They will continue to accuse you of that.
[20/07/2012 09:51:37] Ryan: it's natural they'll just follow what TSM say
[20/07/2012 09:51:41] Ryan: when nobody counters them,
[20/07/2012 09:51:54] zzz: well the gaming world is not my world
[20/07/2012 09:51:55] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 09:52:10] Ryan: as for their expansion, they at least have DoTA 2, and are apparetnly looking to get into pokemon of all the things.
[20/07/2012 09:52:41] zzz: umm ... tbh.. reginald does not need me.. "without me he will do fine"
[20/07/2012 09:52:53] zzz: i choose to leave solomid on my on volition
[20/07/2012 09:53:04] zzz: when reginald accused me of things
[20/07/2012 09:53:15] zzz: and the way he acted towards me out of jealousy
[20/07/2012 09:53:20] zzz: han/messiah
[20/07/2012 09:53:27] zzz: told everyone the opposite story
[20/07/2012 09:53:35] zzz: if i was really all for the money
[20/07/2012 09:53:39] zzz: why the hell would i walk away
[20/07/2012 09:53:41] zzz: and step down
[20/07/2012 09:53:56] Ryan: Yes, I've already established that's pretty much bs
[20/07/2012 09:54:02] zzz: so the story with quinn/kleo
[20/07/2012 09:54:07] zzz: is as follows
[20/07/2012 09:54:21] zzz: i broke up with my gf / finacee 5 plus years ago
[20/07/2012 09:54:28] zzz: quit my job of amking almost 100k
[20/07/2012 09:54:32] Ryan: This should be itnersting. Nobody I dislike on solomid more than her.
[20/07/2012 09:54:37] Ryan: ..ouch
[20/07/2012 09:54:39] zzz: i went off the grid
[20/07/2012 09:54:48] zzz: the only person i helped out was regi
[20/07/2012 09:54:51] zzz: when he started solomid
[20/07/2012 09:54:56] zzz: i was his cfo/coo/advisor mentor
[20/07/2012 09:55:02] zzz: however, only part time
[20/07/2012 09:55:06] zzz: as i spent my days fishing
[20/07/2012 09:55:09] zzz: and enjoying life
[20/07/2012 09:55:16] zzz: regi begged me to join him
[20/07/2012 09:55:18] zzz: i said no
[20/07/2012 09:55:22] zzz: family and business does not mixed
[20/07/2012 09:55:28] zzz: on the winter of last year
[20/07/2012 09:55:33] zzz: regi invited me to vegas with him
[20/07/2012 09:55:41] zzz: i said okay
[20/07/2012 09:55:44] zzz: they all went shopping
[20/07/2012 09:55:53] zzz: they bought 600 dollar shoes
[20/07/2012 09:56:01] zzz: nice suits
[20/07/2012 09:56:02] zzz: and etc
[20/07/2012 09:56:05] zzz: they then looked at me
[20/07/2012 09:56:12] zzz: and asked if i were to buy anything
[20/07/2012 09:56:13] zzz: i am like nope
[20/07/2012 09:56:21] zzz: just teams and dress shirt will be fine
[20/07/2012 09:56:25] zzz: then they gave me a weird look
[20/07/2012 09:56:31] zzz: so then i decided to not go
[20/07/2012 09:56:31] zzz: i told them
[20/07/2012 09:56:44] zzz: i am not a peacock so i wont go with them to vegas
[20/07/2012 09:56:55] zzz: i then emailed regi telling him he's changed so much
[20/07/2012 09:56:59] zzz: and i dont want to help him anymore
[20/07/2012 09:57:04] zzz: regi appologized
[20/07/2012 09:57:10] zzz: and asked me to continue to help him out
[20/07/2012 09:57:13] zzz: i am like okay
[20/07/2012 09:57:21] zzz: then came the NY incident
[20/07/2012 09:57:26] zzz: when tsm did SOO BAd
[20/07/2012 09:57:35] zzz: I was regi/ dans wrestling coach
[20/07/2012 09:57:40] zzz: on my first year
[20/07/2012 09:57:44] zzz: at the school i taught
[20/07/2012 09:57:52] zzz: we broke every possible record
[20/07/2012 09:58:09] zzz: i did not teach kids how to wrestle with brute strength
[20/07/2012 09:58:15] zzz: but howto used their minds
[20/07/2012 09:58:22] zzz: when i packed my bags and left
[20/07/2012 09:58:26] zzz: dan asked me where i was going
[20/07/2012 09:58:29] zzz: i told him
[20/07/2012 09:58:33] zzz: i am going to turn tsm around
[20/07/2012 09:58:39] zzz: he gave me one look
[20/07/2012 09:58:43] zzz: and laughed at me
[20/07/2012 09:58:50] zzz: So when i was in NY
[20/07/2012 09:58:55] zzz: i met emily wilson
[20/07/2012 09:58:59] zzz: now known as kleopatra
[20/07/2012 09:59:11] zzz: she told me how she was almost raped when she was younger
[20/07/2012 09:59:17] zzz: and how she got dumped by all the boys
[20/07/2012 09:59:26] zzz: and how she is always sad and crying
[20/07/2012 09:59:31] zzz: i tried to be a friend
[20/07/2012 09:59:39] zzz: so even though i was working 60-80 hrs a week
[20/07/2012 09:59:45] zzz: i always tried to be there for her
[20/07/2012 09:59:58] Ryan: this sounds like it's going the same way as Calin
[20/07/2012 10:00:24] zzz: emily/calin office broke down.. i offered to buy her the latest version
[20/07/2012 10:00:28] zzz: she said no
[20/07/2012 10:00:37] zzz: so i rippd it off my comp on a usb and mailed them to her
[20/07/2012 10:00:47] zzz: she has such a low self esteem
[20/07/2012 10:00:55] zzz: so i sent her a tsm shirt to cheer her up
[20/07/2012 10:01:04] zzz: then she told me she wanted to be a moderator
[20/07/2012 10:01:07] zzz: but messiah rejected her
[20/07/2012 10:01:08] zzz: i am like NP
[20/07/2012 10:01:14] zzz: i skype messiah
[20/07/2012 10:01:26] zzz: and told him to give her a moderator position
[20/07/2012 10:01:30] zzz: he did
[20/07/2012 10:01:33] zzz: bc i was messiah's boss
[20/07/2012 10:01:42] zzz: umm the position was unpaid
[20/07/2012 10:01:51] zzz: so to cheer emily up
[20/07/2012 10:01:56] zzz: i sent her 100 bucks
[20/07/2012 10:02:05] zzz: through paypal
[20/07/2012 10:02:07] Ryan: ...well, that just seems irresponsible
[20/07/2012 10:02:08] zzz: saying
[20/07/2012 10:02:16] zzz: from me?
[20/07/2012 10:02:19] Ryan: Yes.
[20/07/2012 10:02:21] zzz: umm she's good in english
[20/07/2012 10:02:33] zzz: he writing might be better than yours
[20/07/2012 10:02:46] zzz: it's a guide modertor position for goodness sakes
[20/07/2012 10:03:05] zzz: then i realize that emily was just using me to get attention
[20/07/2012 10:03:09] zzz: so i stopped talking to her
[20/07/2012 10:03:23] zzz: y
[20/07/2012 10:03:24] zzz: bc before she would call me everyda
[20/07/2012 10:03:26] zzz: and she would cry
[20/07/2012 10:03:34] zzz: and i would tryto cheer her up
[20/07/2012 10:03:40] zzz: i realize she's pretty strong
[20/07/2012 10:03:46] zzz: does not need my help
[20/07/2012 10:03:50] zzz: so i told her
[20/07/2012 10:03:57] zzz: i am a wanderer
[20/07/2012 10:04:02] zzz: i am not really a good friend
[20/07/2012 10:04:05] zzz: i will one day disappear
[20/07/2012 10:04:11] zzz: she got all emo on me
[20/07/2012 10:04:16] zzz: ..umm
[20/07/2012 10:04:23] zzz: next with the reginald incident
[20/07/2012 10:04:33] zzz: messiah/pyron spread rumors about me
[20/07/2012 10:04:37] zzz: emily texted me
[20/07/2012 10:04:44] zzz: why were you so fucked up to regi
[20/07/2012 10:04:47] zzz: i am like.. woah
[20/07/2012 10:05:00] zzz: you did not ask me what happened but you accused me already
[20/07/2012 10:05:04] zzz: she asked me what happened
[20/07/2012 10:05:07] zzz: i am like. what's the point
[20/07/2012 10:05:10] zzz: you took a side already
[20/07/2012 10:05:17] Ryan: why would they spread those rumours in the first place?
[20/07/2012 10:05:23] zzz: ummm
[20/07/2012 10:05:29] zzz: what do people like to do
[20/07/2012 10:05:32] zzz: when they are online?
[20/07/2012 10:05:32] zzz: and talking?
[20/07/2012 10:05:49] Ryan: You don't just random;y screw over people you work with.
[20/07/2012 10:05:57] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 10:05:59] zzz: sorry bro
[20/07/2012 10:06:01] Ryan: That person hsa to at the bery least antagonise you
[20/07/2012 10:06:03] Ryan: in some way.
[20/07/2012 10:06:03] zzz: but the real work world
[20/07/2012 10:06:09] zzz: is a dog eat dog world
[20/07/2012 10:06:12] zzz: oh yeah
[20/07/2012 10:06:17] zzz: btw.. i yelled at messiah
[20/07/2012 10:06:23] zzz: bc
[20/07/2012 10:06:28] zzz: when we first started a projected
[20/07/2012 10:06:33] zzz: we had a date
[20/07/2012 10:06:38] zzz: and i had ask him if he needed more time
[20/07/2012 10:06:43] zzz: he promised me he would get it done
[20/07/2012 10:06:50] zzz: he ended up being 2 weeks late
[20/07/2012 10:07:00] zzz: and i asked him what happened
[20/07/2012 10:07:04] zzz: he said he had other things to do
[20/07/2012 10:07:06] zzz: i am like
[20/07/2012 10:07:12] zzz: umm why the hell did you not tell me
[20/07/2012 10:07:19] zzz: that's very irresponsible of you
[20/07/2012 10:07:33] zzz: the first level of business i did when i took over / manage solomid
[20/07/2012 10:07:34] zzz: was change the backened
[20/07/2012 10:07:41] zzz: the program was poorly written
[20/07/2012 10:07:49] zzz: messiah does not know how to code
[20/07/2012 10:07:54] zzz: so he did not want to do anything
[20/07/2012 10:08:00] zzz: all he did was push work to other coders
[20/07/2012 10:08:17] zzz: umm at the same time
[20/07/2012 10:08:26] zzz: they knew that regi and I had a falling out
[20/07/2012 10:08:30] Ryan: REally, he claimed to completely code the site to me.
[20/07/2012 10:08:34] zzz: so instinctively they sided with reginald
[20/07/2012 10:08:37] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 10:08:45] zzz: a few weeks/ month ago
[20/07/2012 10:08:48] zzz: solomid got hacked
[20/07/2012 10:08:52] zzz: a hacker left a note
[20/07/2012 10:08:59] zzz: umm you guys should fix this and this
[20/07/2012 10:09:12] zzz: the "coder" left a file on solomid backend
[20/07/2012 10:09:19] zzz: that anyone can access to
[20/07/2012 10:09:24] zzz: regi go so upset
[20/07/2012 10:09:28] zzz: he wanted to fire the idiot
[20/07/2012 10:09:28] zzz: how did it
[20/07/2012 10:09:36] zzz: everyone knew it was messiah
[20/07/2012 10:09:49] zzz: but he blamed it on the indian guy who manages the server
[20/07/2012 10:10:05] Ryan: ...naturally.
[20/07/2012 10:10:16] zzz: but yeah, in one of hte meeting
[20/07/2012 10:10:26] zzz: we were going to let pyronic go
[20/07/2012 10:10:35] zzz: but then i decided to step down
[20/07/2012 10:10:41] zzz: so pyronic got a lucky break
[20/07/2012 10:11:03] Ryan: not how you phrased it in your message earlier today
[20/07/2012 10:11:18] zzz: well// umm
[20/07/2012 10:11:22] zzz: was not my decision
[20/07/2012 10:11:32] zzz: but if we made a decision as a company
[20/07/2012 10:11:32] zzz: isn't it we
[20/07/2012 10:11:42] Ryan: But I mean
[20/07/2012 10:11:42] zzz: it was mostly messiah/regi's decision
[20/07/2012 10:11:53] Ryan: You made it sound like you specifically argued to kep pyronic
[20/07/2012 10:11:59] zzz: no
[20/07/2012 10:12:04] zzz: wth did i do that
[20/07/2012 10:12:06] zzz: i dont know the guy
[20/07/2012 10:12:09] Ryan: in the message earlier it came across that way.
[20/07/2012 10:12:14] zzz: uhhh
[20/07/2012 10:12:18] Ryan: from memory
[20/07/2012 10:12:20] zzz: i said pyronic should send me flowers
[20/07/2012 10:12:22] zzz: bc i left
[20/07/2012 10:12:31] Ryan: Eh, w/e
[20/07/2012 10:12:31] zzz: her got a lucky break from all the fiasco
[20/07/2012 10:12:42] Ryan: It doesn't really matter and I may be remembering wrong.
[20/07/2012 10:12:51 | Edited 10:12:55] Ryan: so dw
[20/07/2012 10:12:57] zzz: The worse is Messiah: The one putting oil into fire. The manipulative $#$$%.. Pyronic should send me flowers, bc before I stepped down Messiah/Regi wanted to fire him for not doing any work. (Haha, you can believe Messiah's nice words Pyro.. until the day he back stabs you."
[20/07/2012 10:13:21] Ryan: lol, you saved it :P
[20/07/2012 10:13:38] zzz: i knew messih would delete my post
[20/07/2012 10:13:40] Ryan: and yeah, still makes it sound like you convinced them not to fire pyronic.
[20/07/2012 10:13:44] zzz: nope
[20/07/2012 10:13:50 | Edited 10:13:53] Ryan: intentional or not. Comes across that way.
[20/07/2012 10:13:56] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 10:13:56] zzz: really
[20/07/2012 10:14:06] zzz: well.when someonewas going to get fired
[20/07/2012 10:14:10] zzz: but omething big
[20/07/2012 10:14:14] zzz: like organizational changes
[20/07/2012 10:14:20] zzz: the person who was going to get fired
[20/07/2012 10:14:21] zzz: did not
[20/07/2012 10:14:27] zzz: i never argued for pyronic
[20/07/2012 10:14:30] zzz: never will
[20/07/2012 10:14:32] zzz: i dont know the guy
[20/07/2012 10:14:43] zzz: i am not some kind of savior
[20/07/2012 10:14:45] Ryan: Yes, I've figured that out. Just could have woreded your post better.
[20/07/2012 10:14:52] Ryan: But like I said, it reallyyyy doesn't matter
[20/07/2012 10:14:53] zzz: never said i was a nice guy
[20/07/2012 10:15:04] Ryan: Was just trying to work stuff out.
[20/07/2012 10:15:23] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 10:15:28] zzz: if i argued on pyronic's behalf
[20/07/2012 10:15:31] zzz: he would have gotten canned
[20/07/2012 10:15:38] zzz: bc.. the reginald mode right now
[20/07/2012 10:15:46] zzz: is to go against whatever i said/say
[20/07/2012 10:15:55] zzz: reginald wants to prove to me
[20/07/2012 10:16:01] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 10:16:06] Ryan: Quick, tell him not to give me a paid posiiton.
[20/07/2012 10:16:18] zzz: you have never seen a release from reginald
[20/07/2012 10:16:22] zzz: about the jonas situation right?
[20/07/2012 10:16:28] Ryan: Right.
[20/07/2012 10:16:35] zzz: umm if i wrong reginald
[20/07/2012 10:16:42] zzz: do you really think he would not speak up
[20/07/2012 10:16:45] zzz: regi knows he fucked me over
[20/07/2012 10:16:48] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 10:16:51] zzz: even my mom told me
[20/07/2012 10:16:53] zzz: you know whatever you are doing
[20/07/2012 10:17:00] zzz: they are gonna fuck you over
[20/07/2012 10:17:01] zzz: hha
[20/07/2012 10:17:06] zzz: but i came in to help
[20/07/2012 10:17:09] zzz: regi offere me 10%
[20/07/2012 10:17:11] zzz: i said now
[20/07/2012 10:17:11] zzz: no
[20/07/2012 10:17:18] zzz: i worked 60-80hrs
[20/07/2012 10:17:23] zzz: unpaidto help him out
[20/07/2012 10:17:25] zzz: in the beginning
[20/07/2012 10:17:26] Ryan: why would you turn down money?
[20/07/2012 10:17:31] Ryan: I understand not having money
[20/07/2012 10:17:35] Ryan: as your main objective
[20/07/2012 10:17:39] zzz: i dont believe that when i help my own brother
[20/07/2012 10:17:42] zzz: it is for the mone
[20/07/2012 10:17:43] zzz: y
[20/07/2012 10:17:51] Ryan: Doesn't have to be for the money.
[20/07/2012 10:17:52] zzz: yes i did get paid later on
[20/07/2012 10:18:00] Ryan: Fair enough.
[20/07/2012 10:18:05] zzz: THAT WHY I GOT SO FUCKEN PISSED
[20/07/2012 10:18:10] zzz: when regi got drunk
[20/07/2012 10:18:12] zzz: and told some girl
[20/07/2012 10:18:15] zzz: i was taking advantage of him
[20/07/2012 10:18:27] zzz: why the hell would i fly to new york
[20/07/2012 10:18:30] zzz: sleep in the basement
[20/07/2012 10:18:32] zzz: with no mattress
[20/07/2012 10:18:39] zzz: wake up to cook breakfast
[20/07/2012 10:18:39] zzz: then to work
[20/07/2012 10:18:42] zzz: come back to make lunch
[20/07/2012 10:18:44] zzz: then to work
[20/07/2012 10:18:48] zzz: then make dinnner
[20/07/2012 10:18:51] zzz: then work
[20/07/2012 10:19:04] zzz: then at night .. to clean up
[20/07/2012 10:19:09] zzz: you really think it was for the money?
[20/07/2012 10:19:11] zzz: if it was for the money
[20/07/2012 10:19:16] zzz: i'd be sucking up to reginald
[20/07/2012 10:19:21] zzz: and going yes sir
[20/07/2012 10:19:38] Ryan: butthat's what I'm saying, it doesn't have to be for the money. But you need to compensate all the time you invested.
[20/07/2012 10:19:49] Ryan: Well, whatever. Doesn't matter now, what's past is past.
[20/07/2012 10:19:53] zzz: yeah
[20/07/2012 10:19:57] zzz: i really dont care
[20/07/2012 10:20:06] zzz: when you do things out of lvoe
[20/07/2012 10:20:10] zzz: for your brother
[20/07/2012 10:20:13] zzz: and he fuckes you over
[20/07/2012 10:20:13] Ryan: but no offence
[20/07/2012 10:20:21] Ryan: You never did sound like a living family.
[20/07/2012 10:20:23] zzz: the pain is worse
[20/07/2012 10:20:25] Ryan: *loving
[20/07/2012 10:20:27] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 10:20:30] zzz: of course not
[20/07/2012 10:20:36] zzz: we came from a family
[20/07/2012 10:20:42] zzz: where it was breed from violence
[20/07/2012 10:20:52] zzz: we did not have our mum and pops hold our hands
[20/07/2012 10:21:00] zzz: there were 7 of us
[20/07/2012 10:21:02] zzz: 1 mother
[20/07/2012 10:21:05] zzz: who had to work
[20/07/2012 10:21:07] zzz: go to school
[20/07/2012 10:21:11] zzz: and a drunkard father
[20/07/2012 10:21:15] zzz: who gamble and abusesus
[20/07/2012 10:21:24] zzz: so as humans were very brutal
[20/07/2012 10:21:31] zzz: i never said we are angels
[20/07/2012 10:21:35] zzz: or are nice people
[20/07/2012 10:21:42] Ryan: I never said you were.
[20/07/2012 10:21:55] Ryan: I just don't get why you'd do something "out of love"
[20/07/2012 10:22:04] Ryan: seems uncharacteristic
[20/07/2012 10:22:05] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 10:22:09] zzz: then youre a fool
[20/07/2012 10:22:17] Ryan: Thanks ;)
[20/07/2012 10:22:26] zzz: just because you came from a beaten up family
[20/07/2012 10:22:28] zzz: does not mean
[20/07/2012 10:22:30] zzz: you cant love
[20/07/2012 10:22:38] Ryan: But the fact he went on to use you
[20/07/2012 10:22:42] Ryan: and apparently andy used him
[20/07/2012 10:22:55] zzz: who went on to use me?
[20/07/2012 10:22:59] Ryan: regi
[20/07/2012 10:23:02] Ryan: well, not use.
[20/07/2012 10:23:03] zzz: andy= regi
[20/07/2012 10:23:04] Ryan: Speciifcally.
[20/07/2012 10:23:06] Ryan: ersadgfsfdh
[20/07/2012 10:23:10] Ryan: 10am, tired.
[20/07/2012 10:23:20] zzz: umm ilike i've said
[20/07/2012 10:23:26] zzz: if i never appeared
[20/07/2012 10:23:30] zzz: in NY
[20/07/2012 10:23:35] zzz: i'd still be in the back ground
[20/07/2012 10:23:51] zzz: jealousy and the feeling that he has to prove to me that he is superior
[20/07/2012 10:23:56] zzz: was his downfall
[20/07/2012 10:24:01] zzz: i never said my brother does not love me
[20/07/2012 10:24:07] zzz: i never said that thre is no love between u
[20/07/2012 10:24:09] zzz: us
[20/07/2012 10:24:11] zzz: tbh
[20/07/2012 10:24:12] zzz: if i called regi
[20/07/2012 10:24:14] zzz: and say
[20/07/2012 10:24:25] zzz: I need 50k and i need your help
[20/07/2012 10:24:30] zzz: he would not say no
[20/07/2012 10:24:47] zzz: you really dont understand the complexity of silbling rivarly
[20/07/2012 10:25:01] zzz: the clear line was .. regi go jealous,, i stepped down
[20/07/2012 10:25:02] Ryan: Well, let's be honest
[20/07/2012 10:25:07] Ryan: Your case is a bit...unique.
[20/07/2012 10:25:14] zzz: messiah and others spread rumors
[20/07/2012 10:25:20] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 10:25:26] zzz: sorry we dont come from a home like yourself
[20/07/2012 10:25:30] *** zzz sent My Life Part Deuce.pdf ***
[20/07/2012 10:25:54] Ryan: I don't mean the whole growing up thing
[20/07/2012 10:26:01] Ryan: although in itself is interesting
[20/07/2012 10:26:04] Ryan: I meant the whoe fact
[20/07/2012 10:26:15] Ryan: that one of you owns a multi-million dollar company
[20/07/2012 10:26:21] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 10:26:29] zzz: not d
[20/07/2012 10:26:32] zzz: not interested
[20/07/2012 10:26:39] zzz: i've turned down 1 million before
[20/07/2012 10:26:42] zzz: thats
[20/07/2012 10:26:48] zzz: is what you dont get
[20/07/2012 10:26:56] Ryan: I know you're specifically not intersted in money.
[20/07/2012 10:27:03] zzz: i turned down 1 million from a different company
[20/07/2012 10:27:05] zzz: and not regi's
[20/07/2012 10:27:18] Ryan: But money and the reputation that goes with it still changes the sibling dynamic.
[20/07/2012 10:27:24] zzz: yes
[20/07/2012 10:27:33] zzz: money made regi think he's righ
[20/07/2012 10:27:34] zzz: t
[20/07/2012 10:27:36] zzz: regi is pissed that his money
[20/07/2012 10:27:39] zzz: does not affect me
[20/07/2012 10:27:51] zzz: i am not all about the popularity
[20/07/2012 10:27:55] zzz: that's why i stepped away
[20/07/2012 10:27:59] zzz: from the gaming house
[20/07/2012 10:28:07] zzz: i am not a lamb
[20/07/2012 10:28:16] zzz: OMG "a moderator" position
[20/07/2012 10:28:27] zzz: some people take pride in that
[20/07/2012 10:28:44] zzz: youre not the first
[20/07/2012 10:28:46] zzz: to question me
[20/07/2012 10:28:54] zzz: why the fuck did i step away
[20/07/2012 10:28:54] zzz: from it all
[20/07/2012 10:29:06] Ryan: I just want an accurate story.
[20/07/2012 10:29:07] Ryan: Nothing more.
[20/07/2012 10:29:10] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 10:29:17] Ryan: I want to know what I might be working for.
[20/07/2012 10:29:23] zzz: at the same time, you have your pre-judgement
[20/07/2012 10:29:27] Ryan: And you were certainly the best person to talk to.
[20/07/2012 10:29:37] Ryan: You think so?
[20/07/2012 10:29:44] zzz: and it goes against what you expect as "your" logic
[20/07/2012 10:30:00] Ryan: I came into this conversation pretty damn neutral.
[20/07/2012 10:30:03] zzz: umm well.. tbh you're a "moderator"
[20/07/2012 10:30:08] zzz: so you should be speial :0
[20/07/2012 10:30:10] zzz: ;)
[20/07/2012 10:30:12] zzz: and feel privileged
[20/07/2012 10:30:13] Ryan: Yes, I like the forums.
[20/07/2012 10:30:14] zzz: haah
[20/07/2012 10:30:23] Ryan: I like keeping them in a decent state.
[20/07/2012 10:30:35] Ryan: I spend (too much) time there
[20/07/2012 10:30:40] Ryan: so it only makes sense.
[20/07/2012 10:30:50] zzz: well. do what you love
[20/07/2012 10:30:55] zzz: that's how you will get far in life
[20/07/2012 10:30:56] Ryan: I am in no way aligned with messiah
[20/07/2012 10:31:04 | Edited 10:31:06] Ryan: or anybody else.
[20/07/2012 10:31:09] zzz: i am not really inovled
[20/07/2012 10:31:16] Ryan: I know you're not.
[20/07/2012 10:31:24] Ryan: But I just resent the fact that you think my mind was made up
[20/07/2012 10:31:30] Ryan: coming into this conversation
[20/07/2012 10:31:35] Ryan: If my mind was made up
[20/07/2012 10:31:37] Ryan: I would not waste my
[20/07/2012 10:31:40] Ryan: and your time
[20/07/2012 10:31:41] zzz: well
[20/07/2012 10:31:42] Ryan: with this shit.
[20/07/2012 10:31:48] zzz: your mind was not fully made up
[20/07/2012 10:31:56] zzz: but no matterhow you perceive things
[20/07/2012 10:32:00] Ryan: The only pre-conception I had
[20/07/2012 10:32:03] zzz: you already have a biased
[20/07/2012 10:32:07] Ryan: was that both sides
[20/07/2012 10:32:09] Ryan: fucked up
[20/07/2012 10:32:12] Ryan: somewhere along the line
[20/07/2012 10:32:18] Ryan: Which is still probably true,
[20/07/2012 10:32:18] zzz: like you could not accept the fact that i did things out of love for my brother
[20/07/2012 10:32:59] Ryan: That was not to do with pre-conception, only based on what you'd told me about your family in this conversation.
[20/07/2012 10:33:02] zzz: although we did come from a really horrible family environment does not mean there is no love
[20/07/2012 10:33:09] zzz: ....
[20/07/2012 10:33:14] Ryan: Yeah, you're
[20/07/2012 10:33:17] Ryan: missing my point
[20/07/2012 10:33:19] Ryan: on that topic
[20/07/2012 10:33:37] Ryan: I meant the fact that you seem to spend ost the time arguing
[20/07/2012 10:33:38] zzz: dude .. read over what you wrote bro
[20/07/2012 10:33:43] Ryan: or screwing each other over
[20/07/2012 10:33:49] Ryan: Not your home that you came from.
[20/07/2012 10:34:09] zzz: how do we spend time screwing each other over?
[20/07/2012 10:34:14] zzz: yes
[20/07/2012 10:34:16] zzz: i agree
[20/07/2012 10:34:20] zzz: with some of the instance
[20/07/2012 10:34:24] zzz: but were all humans
[20/07/2012 10:34:29] zzz: we have our greed
[20/07/2012 10:34:32] zzz: and we make mistake
[20/07/2012 10:34:36] zzz: but everyone does that
[20/07/2012 10:34:39] zzz: even to family
[20/07/2012 10:34:51] Ryan: Well, within half a year. You've gone from volunteering to help regi to denouncing him as family.
[20/07/2012 10:34:59] Ryan: It just...seems wrong.
[20/07/2012 10:35:03] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 10:35:11] zzz: you just dont get it
[20/07/2012 10:35:21] zzz: question
[20/07/2012 10:35:25] zzz: if someone makes mistake A
[20/07/2012 10:35:36] zzz: and your brother makes a mistake A
[20/07/2012 10:35:38] zzz: what do you do
[20/07/2012 10:35:43] zzz: are you more lenient on him?
[20/07/2012 10:35:47] Ryan: Of course I am.
[20/07/2012 10:35:51] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 10:35:55] zzz: that's where we differ
[20/07/2012 10:36:03] zzz: i am harsher on my siblings
[20/07/2012 10:36:09] zzz: bc i care
[20/07/2012 10:36:09] zzz: enough
[20/07/2012 10:36:18] zzz: to try to rectify their actions
[20/07/2012 10:36:28] zzz: tough love
[20/07/2012 10:36:36] zzz: there's more than one perception ni life
[20/07/2012 10:36:36] zzz: in life
[20/07/2012 10:36:41] zzz: i am not saying you are wrong
[20/07/2012 10:36:48] zzz: but at the same time
[20/07/2012 10:36:48] Ryan: Honstly, my answer was hypothetical.
[20/07/2012 10:36:53] Ryan: My oldest brother is 14.
[20/07/2012 10:37:00] Ryan: it's hard fpor him to screw me overtbh
[20/07/2012 10:37:05] zzz: well
[20/07/2012 10:37:10] zzz: if your younger brother gets in a fight
[20/07/2012 10:37:13] zzz: and he is wrong
[20/07/2012 10:37:16] zzz: do you defend him
[20/07/2012 10:37:19] zzz: even though he is wrong?
[20/07/2012 10:37:23] Ryan: No.
[20/07/2012 10:37:32] zzz: good
[20/07/2012 10:37:39] zzz: we come up with the same conclusion
[20/07/2012 10:37:40] Ryan: Only if he is being attacked.
[20/07/2012 10:37:44] zzz: yes
[20/07/2012 10:37:48] zzz: if he's attacked
[20/07/2012 10:37:51] zzz: you can protect him
[20/07/2012 10:37:58] zzz: so what regi did to me was out of stupidity
[20/07/2012 10:38:04] zzz: i am not going to pet him and say
[20/07/2012 10:38:06] zzz: you did well
[20/07/2012 10:38:09] zzz: how he acts
[20/07/2012 10:38:13] zzz: as a leader
[20/07/2012 10:38:19] zzz: with thousand of people following him
[20/07/2012 10:38:27] zzz: is not a good role model
[20/07/2012 10:38:32] zzz: he's changed
[20/07/2012 10:38:36] zzz: he's become so much better
[20/07/2012 10:38:42] zzz: i dont expect him to be like me
[20/07/2012 10:38:47] zzz: i have many flaws as well
[20/07/2012 10:39:09] zzz: now .. most professional who excel to the highest level
[20/07/2012 10:39:18] zzz: are they humble or are they arrogant brats
[20/07/2012 10:39:36] zzz: the highest sense of a grand master is humility
[20/07/2012 10:40:01] zzz: i dont mind losing regi as a brother if he learns humility
[20/07/2012 10:40:24] Ryan: You really think you're going to help him by losing him as s brother though?
[20/07/2012 10:40:26] Ryan: *as a
[20/07/2012 10:40:33] Ryan: I understand tough love.
[20/07/2012 10:40:33] zzz: So if destroying our brotherhood or whatever is left to wake you up and make you realize that you need to be a graceful / humble / simple human being.
I will push the button in a heart beat. "You are no longer my fucken brother bitch!!"
[20/07/2012 10:40:39] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 10:40:44] zzz: sometimes people do not walk up
[20/07/2012 10:40:46] zzz: wake up
[20/07/2012 10:40:48] Ryan: but, is he even going to read that.
[20/07/2012 10:40:53] zzz: unless they lose something
[20/07/2012 10:41:00] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 10:41:02] zzz: he alreay did
[20/07/2012 10:41:06] zzz: a month ago
[20/07/2012 10:41:13] zzz: he's changed
[20/07/2012 10:41:15] zzz: i admit that
[20/07/2012 10:41:19] zzz: right now
[20/07/2012 10:41:23] zzz: all the people he has around him
[20/07/2012 10:41:26] zzz: are "yes sir"
[20/07/2012 10:41:29] zzz: to him
[20/07/2012 10:41:38] zzz: they allow him to act however he wants to
[20/07/2012 10:41:45] zzz: he will act like a donkey
[20/07/2012 10:41:48] zzz: and they will still bow
[20/07/2012 10:41:51] zzz: however
[20/07/2012 10:41:52] zzz: in his mind
[20/07/2012 10:41:57] zzz: there will be this one person
[20/07/2012 10:42:00] zzz: who he knows
[20/07/2012 10:42:02] Ryan: even his team mates?
[20/07/2012 10:42:11] zzz: that his actions will not be allowed
[20/07/2012 10:42:13] zzz: dude
[20/07/2012 10:42:20] zzz: where the hell have you been?
[20/07/2012 10:42:23] Ryan: Well
[20/07/2012 10:42:24] zzz: he's there boss
[20/07/2012 10:42:25] zzz: he made them
[20/07/2012 10:42:35] zzz: how are you going to disobey your boss
[20/07/2012 10:42:47] zzz: that's the reason why tsm failed so miserably in the first place
[20/07/2012 10:42:54] zzz: all the yelling
[20/07/2012 10:42:56] zzz: the arguing
[20/07/2012 10:43:01] zzz: reginald picking on rainman
[20/07/2012 10:43:03] zzz: and xpecial
[20/07/2012 10:43:09] zzz: get all the recordings
[20/07/2012 10:43:14] zzz: of the arguments before i came
[20/07/2012 10:43:31] Ryan: yeah, like I said, I've heard a fair bit.
[20/07/2012 10:43:40] zzz: ummm ..
[20/07/2012 10:43:47] zzz: when i came to NY
[20/07/2012 10:43:50] zzz: i did not allow that
[20/07/2012 10:43:55] zzz: what happened?
[20/07/2012 10:44:01] zzz: TSM starts winnning
[20/07/2012 10:44:18] zzz: umm everything that regi talks about now
[20/07/2012 10:44:21] zzz: about team work
[20/07/2012 10:44:22] zzz: about practice
[20/07/2012 10:44:30] zzz: about practicing when you are at your best condition
[20/07/2012 10:44:34] zzz: umm where did it came from?
[20/07/2012 10:44:38] zzz: ...
[20/07/2012 10:44:47] zzz: anyhow, i am going fishing in 2 hours
[20/07/2012 10:44:52] zzz: gonna call it a night
[20/07/2012 10:45:00] Ryan: Can I ask
[20/07/2012 10:45:03] Ryan: one question first
[20/07/2012 10:45:14] Ryan: about the whole TRM leaving?
[20/07/2012 10:45:17] Ryan: or would that take
[20/07/2012 10:45:17] zzz: ...
[20/07/2012 10:45:18] Ryan: too long
[20/07/2012 10:45:20] Ryan: to explain
[20/07/2012 10:45:22] zzz: lets leave it at that
[20/07/2012 10:45:25] Ryan: Lol
[20/07/2012 10:45:29] zzz: you got your answers
[20/07/2012 10:45:30] Ryan: Fair enough.
[20/07/2012 10:45:36] Ryan: Yeah, thanks.
[20/07/2012 10:45:45] zzz: at the end of the day
[20/07/2012 10:45:47] Ryan: I really mean it.
[20/07/2012 10:45:50] zzz: i does not really matter what you think
[20/07/2012 10:45:52] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 10:45:55] zzz: bc you're just one guy
[20/07/2012 10:46:07] zzz: and of course there's a gazillion tsm fans
[20/07/2012 10:46:16] zzz: who are fed lies about me through messiah / kleo
[20/07/2012 10:46:23] Ryan: I'm not going to try and change everybodies perception of TSM
[20/07/2012 10:46:27] Ryan: I just want to make sure
[20/07/2012 10:46:30] zzz: of course you're not
[20/07/2012 10:46:31] Ryan: I'm not wasting my time
[20/07/2012 10:46:36] zzz: i know
[20/07/2012 10:46:43] zzz: you watned to talk to me bc of your self interest
[20/07/2012 10:46:46] zzz: has nothing to help me
[20/07/2012 10:46:48] zzz: even if you did
[20/07/2012 10:46:52] zzz: it would not matter
[20/07/2012 10:46:56] Ryan: I do honestly
[20/07/2012 10:46:58] zzz: i really wanted people on my side
[20/07/2012 10:47:01] zzz: i'd put up a youtube
[20/07/2012 10:47:02] zzz: lol
[20/07/2012 10:47:02] Ryan: think you should release one video though.
[20/07/2012 10:47:07] zzz: nah
[20/07/2012 10:47:10] zzz: bc you asked
[20/07/2012 10:47:15] zzz: that's why i took the time
[20/07/2012 10:47:19] zzz: i already know
[20/07/2012 10:47:19] zzz: hehe
[20/07/2012 10:47:23] zzz: you're powerless
[20/07/2012 10:47:23] zzz: hehe
[20/07/2012 10:47:28] Ryan: Thanks :P
[20/07/2012 10:47:32] zzz: sorry bro
[20/07/2012 10:47:38] zzz: reality is reality is
[20/07/2012 10:47:40] Ryan: Well, it's true.
[20/07/2012 10:47:45] zzz: dont try to go against the tide
[20/07/2012 10:47:48] zzz: just play with it
[20/07/2012 10:47:52] zzz: my dumb mistake in life
[20/07/2012 10:47:56] zzz: is that i choose not to play games
[20/07/2012 10:48:03] zzz: i just left to enjoy my life in my own world
[20/07/2012 10:48:08] zzz: left= like
[20/07/2012 10:48:23] Ryan: Nothing wrong with that
[20/07/2012 10:48:24] Ryan: tbh
[20/07/2012 10:48:38] zzz: haha.. read my book ;)
[20/07/2012 10:48:48] zzz: maybe you'll learn something and understand my perception in life
[20/07/2012 10:48:51] zzz: i am an odd case
[20/07/2012 10:48:54] zzz: i do understand that
[20/07/2012 10:49:08] zzz: that's why i am sadden and sickened by what "our" world has become
[20/07/2012 10:49:45] Ryan: Well, I think I share some of your views to an extent at least.
[20/07/2012 10:50:02] Ryan: People should spend more time trying to lvie life and enjoy themselves than they do.
[20/07/2012 10:50:19] Ryan: But yeah, I'll let you go.
[20/07/2012 10:50:30] Ryan: Will you be on again or are you deleting me now?
[20/07/2012 10:50:33] zzz: aight.. anyhow.. this is not my skype any longer..
[20/07/2012 10:50:34] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 10:50:35] zzz: :)
[20/07/2012 10:50:36] zzz: yup
[20/07/2012 10:50:38 | Edited 10:50:41] Ryan: Ah.
[20/07/2012 10:50:39] zzz: liek i said
[20/07/2012 10:50:45] zzz: i really dont want to be involve
[20/07/2012 10:50:48] Ryan: Well I didn't want
[20/07/2012 10:50:50] zzz: i did everything for my bro
[20/07/2012 10:50:52] Ryan: to talk about anything TSM related
[20/07/2012 10:51:00] Ryan: after this convo
[20/07/2012 10:51:02] zzz: :)
[20/07/2012 10:51:09] Ryan: You do just seem like a good guy to talk to though
[20/07/2012 10:51:17] Ryan: But if you're dropping this skype, fair enough.
[20/07/2012 10:51:20] zzz: haha.. sorweee.. i am a hermit
[20/07/2012 10:51:25] Ryan: I understand.
[20/07/2012 10:51:25] zzz: email me.. if you ever
[20/07/2012 10:51:29] zzz: need help or advise
[20/07/2012 10:51:37] Ryan: Your email?
[20/07/2012 10:51:38] zzz: jonasdinh@gmail.com
[20/07/2012 10:51:45] Ryan: Alright, I'll keep that in mind.
[20/07/2012 10:51:49] Ryan: Thanks for the time.
[20/07/2012 10:51:51] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 10:51:52] zzz: np
[20/07/2012 10:51:54] Ryan: Good luck and all the best.
[20/07/2012 10:52:02] zzz: umm one thing i'd like to say
[20/07/2012 10:52:17] zzz: even though everything that happened between my siblings and I
[20/07/2012 10:52:23] zzz: if regi/andy
[20/07/2012 10:52:26] zzz: even dan
[20/07/2012 10:52:30] zzz: ever needs my help
[20/07/2012 10:52:40] zzz: there's no way in hell, even if i have to give up my life
[20/07/2012 10:52:46] zzz: i would still be there to help them out
[20/07/2012 10:53:07] zzz: I do believe that slowly but surely everything I taught andy will come to light
[20/07/2012 10:53:17] zzz: he just needs time to grow
[20/07/2012 10:53:35] zzz: i need to be the pick in his heart to remind him that he's no god and just a human being
[20/07/2012 10:53:38] zzz: if i dont do that
[20/07/2012 10:53:47] zzz: him waking up will be further and longer away
[20/07/2012 10:54:00] zzz: as for messiah
[20/07/2012 10:54:06] zzz: he has his own opionion
[20/07/2012 10:54:21] zzz: i really dont care to destroy the guy or bring him down further
[20/07/2012 10:54:27] zzz: the statement you showed me
[20/07/2012 10:54:31] Ryan: Shame.
[20/07/2012 10:54:34] zzz: proves that i've totally fucked with his mind
[20/07/2012 10:54:35] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 10:54:41] zzz: for him to write and say that
[20/07/2012 10:54:49] Ryan: Messiah/kleo seem intolerable.
[20/07/2012 10:54:56] zzz: because the image he gives is" Messiah = calm collected guy"
[20/07/2012 10:55:02] zzz: but i got to him very good
[20/07/2012 10:55:04] zzz: hahaa
[20/07/2012 10:55:26] Ryan: I still can't believe he tried to DDOS you T_T
[20/07/2012 10:55:39] zzz: tbh,, i cannot prove it
[20/07/2012 10:55:41] zzz: but ever sincethat post
[20/07/2012 10:55:47] zzz: my other line got ddosed
[20/07/2012 10:55:56] zzz: so he's innocent until proven guilty
[20/07/2012 10:56:02] zzz: if i knew he did it
[20/07/2012 10:56:04] zzz: i'd fly to his house
[20/07/2012 10:56:08] zzz: and beat the crap out of him
[20/07/2012 10:56:10] zzz: since i dont know
[20/07/2012 10:56:12] zzz: i will leave that at that
[20/07/2012 10:56:14] Ryan: well, who else would do it?
[20/07/2012 10:56:16 | Edited 10:56:19] Ryan: Eh.
[20/07/2012 10:56:21] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 10:56:23] zzz: it's cool
[20/07/2012 10:56:26] zzz: waste of a flight anyways
[20/07/2012 10:56:31] Ryan: That's true.
[20/07/2012 10:56:34] zzz: umm dinhs look weak
[20/07/2012 10:56:34] zzz: but trust me
[20/07/2012 10:56:47] zzz: were very violent and brutal when push comes to shove
[20/07/2012 10:56:57] zzz: i can bet you that i can beat messiah up in less than 30 seconds
[20/07/2012 10:56:58] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 10:57:11] zzz: but yeah.. whatever,, i dont ever want to get in a fight for the rest of my life
[20/07/2012 10:57:13] Ryan: I dunno, I think I could take regi in a fight :P
[20/07/2012 10:57:20] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 10:57:21] zzz: tbh
[20/07/2012 10:57:22] zzz: nope
[20/07/2012 10:57:26] zzz: unless
[20/07/2012 10:57:31] zzz: you've gone through years of training
[20/07/2012 10:57:34] Ryan: I did a lot of bocing.
[20/07/2012 10:57:37] Ryan: *boxing
[20/07/2012 10:57:41] zzz: i took out a 3rd degree
[20/07/2012 10:57:42] zzz: in 2 minutes
[20/07/2012 10:57:59] zzz: regi can prolly do the same
[20/07/2012 10:58:03] Ryan: He has to be out of shape though.
[20/07/2012 10:58:06] zzz: umm
[20/07/2012 10:58:08] zzz: tbh
[20/07/2012 10:58:15] zzz: regi can probably beat me 1v1
[20/07/2012 10:58:18] Ryan: T_T
[20/07/2012 10:58:20] zzz: but in a fight
[20/07/2012 10:58:22] zzz: there's nothing as fair
[20/07/2012 10:58:26] zzz: the one who is standing wins
[20/07/2012 10:58:39] zzz: i'll have to play really dirty if i fight regi
[20/07/2012 10:58:40] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 10:58:43] Ryan: Well, was just a random hypothetical thought anyway.
[20/07/2012 10:58:49] Ryan: Would be interesting though.
[20/07/2012 10:58:54] zzz: but yeah,, peace and no violence is the best option
[20/07/2012 10:59:07] zzz: yeah, my goal is to never fight again
[20/07/2012 10:59:25] zzz: so yes we can talk about it
[20/07/2012 10:59:42] zzz: anyhow man.. you pretty bright yourself.. I do hope you take the effrot to read my book
[20/07/2012 10:59:45] zzz: you wont believe it
[20/07/2012 10:59:49] zzz: but I have seen angels
[20/07/2012 10:59:54] zzz: and have miracles
[20/07/2012 10:59:59] zzz: happen before my eyes
[20/07/2012 11:00:09] Ryan: I will at least give it a try definitely.
[20/07/2012 11:00:13] zzz: thanks
[20/07/2012 11:00:16] zzz: aight man
[20/07/2012 11:00:16] zzz: peace
[20/07/2012 11:00:19] Ryan: Least I could do.
[20/07/2012 11:00:34] Ryan: Bye, enjoy your fishing/life.
[20/07/2012 11:00:40] zzz: umm :(
[20/07/2012 11:00:44] zzz: short last
[20/07/2012 11:00:52] zzz: business meeting at end of month
[20/07/2012 11:01:00] zzz: life will be 60-80 hrs of work again
[20/07/2012 11:01:02] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 11:01:05] Ryan: ...well
[20/07/2012 11:01:06] Ryan: Fuck that.
[20/07/2012 11:01:21] Ryan: should have just got the money before and spent the rest of your life enjoying yourself
[20/07/2012 11:01:22] Ryan: :P
[20/07/2012 11:01:34] zzz: nah..
[20/07/2012 11:01:45] zzz: i made a promise to my millionairefriend
[20/07/2012 11:01:50] zzz: i will help him with his business
[20/07/2012 11:01:52] zzz: if it was not for that promise
[20/07/2012 11:01:56] zzz: i'd be fishing
[20/07/2012 11:01:57] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 11:02:09] Ryan: ...surely a millionaire friend can afford to buy help T_T
[20/07/2012 11:02:17] Ryan: You're pretty selfless
[20/07/2012 11:02:25] zzz: umm there's help
[20/07/2012 11:02:31] zzz: but then there's HELP
[20/07/2012 11:02:31] Ryan: for a self proclaimed "not nice guy" you're rather nice :P
[20/07/2012 11:02:38] zzz: well.. i hate the title of nice guy
[20/07/2012 11:02:44] zzz: i'd rather be a devil
[20/07/2012 11:02:48] zzz: bc devils can do good
[20/07/2012 11:02:50] zzz: but angels cant
[20/07/2012 11:03:10] Ryan: Somewhat twisted logic, but fair enough :P
[20/07/2012 11:03:30 | Edited 11:03:33] Ryan: But you really should get going to sleep, or you're going to regret it when you wake up T_T
[20/07/2012 11:03:39] zzz: umm gone 72 hrs with no sleep before
[20/07/2012 11:03:41] zzz: haha
[20/07/2012 11:03:42] zzz: but yeah
[20/07/2012 11:03:43] zzz: peace
[20/07/2012 11:03:46] Ryan: Adios.