01:49 *** Zt joined #capasb
01:49 dogfish44 I always prefer runs where I find mistakes
01:49 dogfish44 so I can vent some steam ^_^
01:50 Zt I need to rage.
01:50 Zt rages
01:50 Zarator <%dogfish44> Hey, Z, I finally have a reason for you to buy a Yamask for the Ghost Gym
01:50 Zarator Explain
01:50 Zt Man, Feint can't combo Punches.... D:<
01:50 Objection well it can but it ends up normal-type iirc
01:50 Matezoide !move Feint
01:51 Zt Nope, in the case of Drain Punch.
01:51 Objection actually, if you combined Feint and Drain Punch it'd be fighting
01:51 dogfish44 So you can make feel less bad by giving one a good home
01:51 Zt Unfortunatel, waterwarrior illegalize that combo...
01:51 Zt *Unfortunately
01:51 dogfish44 Feint combos with Drain Punch
01:51 dogfish44 -__-
01:51 Zarator
01:52 Objection why would it be illegal?
01:52 Zarator That's... beautiful
01:52 Matezoide Thats sad
01:52 Zt I quote:-
01:52 Zt Drain Punch requires direct contact, but Feint deals damage through a shock wave.
01:52 Matezoide tbh, Yamask is another mon of my list
01:52 Matezoide I shall call it
01:52 Zt Can't I just shock, then Punch?
01:52 dogfish44 Feint is just an aura
01:52 Matezoide ''Mumm-Ra.''
01:52 Objection "Feint: The Pokémon surrounds itself with a faint aura and rushes at the opponent with great speed, generating an afterimage. The Pokemon makes a stop before striking the opponent ..."
01:52 dogfish44 it's well known for combining into any move
01:52 Matezoide THE EVER LIVING!
01:52 dogfish44 that is physical
01:52 Objection Feint is a contact move not codified as a contact move
01:52 Objection like Sky Attack
01:53 dogfish44 ^
01:53 Zt ?_? As in, Obj?
01:54 dogfish44 it has the flavour of a contact move
01:54 dogfish44 it combines with pretty much any contact move
01:54 dogfish44 especially the normal/fighting ones, a la punches & kicks
01:54 Objection !publicmove Sky Attack
01:54 Onion_Bubs Sky Attack: The Pokemon gathers its strength, charging its body with a massive amount of energy, then unleashes the energy with a quick thrust, sending it slamming into the foe for incredible damage. The sheer power of the attack may knock the opponent off balance, causing it to flinch.
01:54 Onion_Bubs Attack Power: 14 | Accuracy: 90% | Energy Cost: 10 | Attack Type: Physical | Effect Chance: 30% | Contact: No | Typing: Flying | Priority: Charge: 1, Hit: -1 | CT: Force
01:54 Zt !move Feint
01:54 Objection see how the description says it slams into the foe (implying contact) yet the data line below says Contact: No
01:55 Onion_Bubs Credit for this script goes to Charmander. Now attempting to fetch Feint's data ...
01:55 Onion_Bubs Feint: The Pokémon surrounds itself with a faint aura and rushes at the opponent with great speed, generating an afterimage. The Pokemon makes a stop before striking the opponent and the afterimage continues going. The energy wavelength of the afterimage ruptures the protective effects of Detect, Protect, Wide Guard, and Quick Guard for the rest of the actio
01:55 Onion_Bubs n on the opponent or the opponent's team in the case of Wide and Quick Guard.
01:55 Onion_Bubs Attack Power: 4 | Accuracy: 100% | Energy Cost: 4 | Attack Type: Physical | Effect Chance: -- | Contact: No | Typing: Normal | Priority: 2 | CT: Set
01:55 Objection !publicmove Feint
01:55 Onion_Bubs Feint: The Pokémon surrounds itself with a faint aura and rushes at the opponent with great speed, generating an afterimage. The Pokemon makes a stop before striking the opponent and the afterimage continues going. The energy wavelength of the afterimage ruptures the protective effects of Detect, Protect, Wide Guard, and Quick Guard for the rest of the actio
01:55 Onion_Bubs n on the opponent or the opponent's team in the case of Wide and Quick Guard.
01:55 Onion_Bubs Attack Power: 4 | Accuracy: 100% | Energy Cost: 4 | Attack Type: Physical | Effect Chance: -- | Contact: No | Typing: Normal | Priority: 2 | CT: Set
01:55 Zt No Contact, either.
01:55 Objection Here, it says the pokemon strikes the opponent
01:55 Objection implying contact, yet, again, the data line says no
01:55 Objection and iirc there's one more move like that
01:55 Objection i can't remember what
01:56 CMFP "The Pokemon makes a stop before striking the opponent and the afterimage continues going."
01:57 CMFP so I think the description, although really weird, makes it sound like it's no contact
01:58 Zt As in stop, no strike.
01:58 Matezoide It sounds like the pokemon stops and doesnt strikes at all
01:58 Zt Unlike Obj's interpretation of "stop, then strike"
01:58 dogfish44 Feint is a non-contact move that is still a legitimate combination with most contact moves. HAPPY.
01:59 CMFP yeah I think feint could probably be comboed with stuff
01:59 dogfish44 Imagine the afterimage darts slightly faster than the actual mon in the attack
01:59 Zt So am I allowed to ask waterwarrior to reconsider?
01:59 Zt is hopeful...?
02:00 Objection it sounded more to me like the afterimage was nothing but an intangible illusion that prompted the mon to set up protect/detect/whatever too soon
02:00 Objection if you do ask him to reconsider
02:00 Objection copy a log of the discussion
02:01 dogfish44 Say that the majority of the ASB higher ups say it works