1. Hrumph: emma: i'm in usd so my side is the usd side but note that I fully recognise that favouring usd or a low value of btc is unfair to people who were simply holding btc
  2. evilmushroom: so his mood has increased
  3. Rizar: or they found pendrive
  4. Rizar: XD
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  6. Hrumph: emma: i just hope that they can come up with a resolution that's optimally fair to everyone on average
  7. emma: yeah
  8. ppvkignx: additionally, it's likely that Mtgox has debtors who are not unsecured and thus have priority, meaning unsecured debtors (depositors) will get well under 5% after fees are accounted for as well
  9. linagee: I don't get it. Does Mark just have all the coins in a brain wallet or what? How can you even prove that's *not* the case?
  10. reb0rn: fair would be full BTC in some reasonable time
  11. Anthony1s_ joined the chat room.
  12. ppvkignx: you can't make lemonade with a rock
  13. ppvkignx: you can't conjure 850,000 btc out of thin air
  14. Hrumph: robocoin: not for those buying zillions of btc at $100...those guys don't deserve full market value
  15. reb0rn: no but OVER time yes
  16. ppvkignx: reb0rn, mtgox made 2 million profit in 2013. They owe 500million+ in bitcoin
  17. MasterMaA: evilmushroom He didnt lode the coins?
  18. MasterMaA: lose
  19. evilmushroom: MasterMaA sorry I was joking. I have absolutely no idea.
  20. Concurrent581072: "23:21:48 <MagicalTux> I'm providing details to the law enforcement, saying anything publicly could cause problems with the investigation" is the reason why he isn't telling how the coins were lost, supposedly
  21. MasterMaA: evilmushroom lol
  22. reb0rn: ppvkignx no , they also earned 100K BTC!
  23. reb0rn: they keep it in BTC because no tax, and more value
  24. Rizar: ppvkignx so we will get ours btc in 250 yrs
  25. Rizar:
  26. evilmushroom: MasterMaA I didn't even have coins in gox-- but I have a friend that had some.. who is mega depressed. I just check this channel to see if there is any good news to tell him
  27. ppvkignx: they made 100k btc over the entire operations of the exchange, right?
  28. hadoopSucks: there just 0 chance that a 100 target price could be argued, that was only that low due to withdrawissues
  29. reb0rn: hell know
  30. MagicalKarp: evilmushroom: still waiting for update.
  31. usaoscoin: !seen ne0futur
  32. Title: ne0futur was last seen in ##mtgox-chat 1 hour, 34 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <ne0futur> nah
  33. MagicalKarp: usaoscoin: he idlin'
  34. MasterMaA: ne0futur was just a contractor... MK fooled him too.
  35. xempew joined the chat room.
  36. sdoowpilihp joined the chat room.
  37. tinaivanova: lies
  38. ppvkignx: additionally, mtgox would only make realbtc fees on future deposits, not existing deposits
  39. ppvkignx: prospects look bleak.
  40. reb0rn: its the same
  41. reb0rn: if there is investor with $$ future could be fine
  42. pasod: evilmushroom: it's too soon to know what hill happen, there is a legal process in development so things go slower
  43. reb0rn: but thets big IF
  44. evilmushroom: yeah I figured
  45. linagee: MagicalKarp: are you like a tux?
  46. ppvkignx: if mtgox does not have the 500million debt thrown out nobody would invest
  47. zoinky joined the chat room.
  48. ppvkignx: the liability is just ridiculously huge compared to the entire bitcoin economy
  49. reb0rn: its not
  50. MasterMaA: There was someone here proposing an IPO, e.g. delivering the losses to wall street...lol
  51. MagicalKarp: linagee: no I am not affiliated with da tux.
  52. ppvkignx: this bankruptcy is the ipo, and all you goxbtc holders are shareholders
  53. reb0rn: BTC in 2 year can be huge
  54. reb0rn: its a chance
  55. MagicalKarp: yeah people Gox is providing you with a service by keeping your coins from you.
  56. reb0rn: also ANYONE who wants future for BTC should help
  57. reb0rn: so i still have hope there will be investors with BIG $$$
  58. ppvkignx: lol
  59. nanashi_ joined the chat room.
  60. nanashi_ is now known as nanashi____.
  61. Frozenlo` joined the chat room.
  62. ppvkignx: 500 million probably dwarfs existing investment into bitcoin companies, but i'd be interested in seeing the numbers
  63. ppvkignx: across the entire industry
  64. reb0rn: if mtgox manage to take of as new IPO, thet would benefit BTC huge
  65. SuSEno: reb0rn: better to file an IPO so EVERYONE can own MtGox
  66. GrandHeirophant: lol
  67. GrandHeirophant: isnt their rules
  68. MasterMaA: Why would anyone invest 500 million in a toxic firm like MtGox?
  69. GrandHeirophant: to file an IPO
  70. reb0rn: 500M is nothing, just small ppl don`t understand it
  71. reb0rn: small ppl, don`t get angry
  72. ppvkignx: look up the minji saisei process, existing debtors are essentially shareholders
  73. btcide joined the chat room.
  74. Hachima: and people that do understand it wouldn't touch MtGox
  75. BTC_Bear is now known as BTC_Bear|hbrntng.
  76. jibble: why would people pay 750 million for a defunct full tilt poker, they did
  77. ppvkignx: creditor sorry
  78. reb0rn: jibble right on spot
  79. reb0rn: Hachima big ppl know how to revers disaster
  80. sdoowpilihp joined the chat room.
  81. btcide: is the Gox brand worth $500mm?
  82. reread: no way
  83. btcide: otherwise it's a toxic asset
  84. Hachima: no
  85. reb0rn: any news is good news, even bankrupcy for most
  86. btcide: no one will touch it
  87. btcide: and the technical assets aren't worth much either
  88. SuSEno: I came with the idea to file IPO so everyone can pay us
  89. reread: what was their profit in 2013 like 2 mil 3mil ?
  90. Hachima: exactly
  91. reb0rn: you all know shit, you all have no GOX BTC, but are here to spread fud
  92. pasod: at least it's not a liquidation
  93. ppvkignx: US DOJ brokered the full tilt deal
  94. reb0rn: maybe you are from bistamp or btc-e
  95. hadoopSucks: the user accounts especially verified are worth mint tho
  96. ppvkignx: i'm not dumb enough to rely entirely on a single exchange
  97. sys joined the chat room.
  98. reb0rn: its not only accounts, its the media
  99. SuSEno: reb0rn: I agree
  100. reb0rn: can anyone imagine if somone take it and turn it all back, + media.. in a split time it can take 50% btc market with right skill
  101. neko_jita joined the chat room.
  102. <anarchystar> what do you mean with potential new owners? <- we've been in discussion for more than a week with different investors willing to buy mtgox and cover the missing funds"
  103. emma: i was just thinking about what a strange world the bitcoin world is. I mean like.. When all those banks on wallstreet were collapsing, how many of those customers could say they were getting little pms from the CEOs
  104. reb0rn: sure big cash is needed
  105. emma: bitcoin world is such a small world
  106. jibble: plus litecoin market can be dominanted by them
  107. jibble: dominated*
  108. MasterMaA: SuSeno lol
  109. reread: http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/78404559815/tbi-exclusive-more-resignations-coming-at-the-bitcoin
  110. Title: [ The Two-Bit Idiot — TBI Exclusive - More Resignations Coming at the Bitcoin Foundation ]
  111. SuSEno: reb0rn: I work in a brokerage company and I know some company with negative income and near dying file for an IPO with sh!t pricey price just to pay their debt.
  112. emma: lol
  113. emma: The Bitcoin Foundation is such a pack of scum
  114. neko_jita: Anyone get through on the posted phoneline that lives in Japan? If so, any worthwile info?
  115. SuSEno: But this company share price will plummet 10% in the first trading day
  116. MagicalKarp: Someone explain to me how Idiot gets all that stuff.
  117. ppvkignx: check website for info in next few hours neko_jita
  118. emma: It embarrasses me that I was pushing my offline friends and family so hard about bitcoins and then it turns out this Bitcoin Foundation is full of criminals and vile people.
  119. Dr-G2: Vote for me for new Bitcoin Supreme Leader
  120. hadoopSucks: agreed
  121. jibble: most of the would of gotten into bitcoin by buying and selling drugs in the first place, and then going....hold on a second i can make even more with this currency and its legal
  122. reb0rn: emma still they controll shit
  123. jibble: not most but some
  124. evilmushroom: why would anyone push friends and family on crypto?
  125. DailyDoge: lol
  126. neko_jita: ppvkignx: any speculation what the announcement will be? weird to post a phone number just to redirect back to website... must just be a requirement as part of bankruptcy protection
  127. MagicalKarp: emma: criminals and vile people? Are you trolling? Show me some hard facts instead of spouting that crap
  128. ppvkignx: i accidentally almost got someone into bitcoin before realizing my mistake
  129. reread: twobitidiot is satoshi
  130. sdoowpilihp joined the chat room.
  131. thoughtcourier joined the chat room.
  132. MagicalKarp: ^ I surely hope not
  133. Copesetic: I really dont like TBI
  134. jibble: twobitidiot is an idiot
  135. MagicalKarp: Copesetic: me neither.
  136. ppvkignx: tbi is a drama queen but he has sources so whatever
  137. MagicalKarp: Everyone hate on 2BI!
  138. emma: because i was the kind of bitcoin enthusiast that wanted everyone to know about it and use it. Then more recently I find out that bitcoin community also has a ton of people who make fun of others who get hurt by the Bitcoin Foundation and company.
  139. ppvkignx: half the internet is autistic anyway
  140. hadoopSucks: anyone who goes on and on about anonymous generally leads me to believe they are in bitcoin for "special" reasons
  141. jibble: i have revealing info about gox!! let me spend 6 hours giving crumbs to people until they all love me and will listen!!
  142. neko_jita: TBI is likely connected to the secondmarket guys and that is his source... just saying
  143. ppvkignx: but he is particularly "special"
  144. ppvkignx: just read this: http://www.reddit.com/user/twobitidiot
  145. Title: [ overview for twobitidiot ]
  146. MagicalKarp: ppvkignx: didn't he ragequit reddit
  147. emma: MagicalKarp: yeah are you kidding? Look at the Bitcoin foundation board and alumni, how could you not see?
  148. jenninsea joined the chat room.
  149. nanashi____: http://picosong.com/Y7di
  150. Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
  151. ppvkignx: nah, he's just being an attention whore MagicalKarp. Gotta start shit to keep the spotlight
  152. nanashi____: to the japanese speaker here enjoy
  153. nanashi____: meeting of mark with bank
  154. MagicalKarp: nanashi____: what do you mean?
  155. ppvkignx: source nanashi____?
  156. nanashi____: this is FUD channel so take or elave
  157. MagicalKarp: emma: Andresen? Matonis? Vessenes? WHAT?
  158. MasterMaA joined the chat room.
  159. MagicalKarp: nanashi____: no it's not, now where are the facts
  160. SuSEno: emma: people in Bitcoin Foundation only care about technical aspect of Bitcoin Protocol not financial aspect of bitoin economy
  161. emma: TwoBitIdiot: I have A BREAKING STORY keep on checking my blog every 10 minutes and give me reddit karma while I milk this for all its worth. Oh and by the way here's a plug for the bitcoin companies I shill for in every post I publish.
  162. ppvkignx: linky or you stinky nanashi____
  163. emma: SuSEno: that's so not true
  164. emma: you are thinking of bitcoin developers
  165. emma: different story
  166. hadoopSucks: isnt the twobit monkey a ripple guy, biggest scam ever
  167. GuestLjL: emma: well, i'm not "in", so i'm looking at the Board and see nothing. can you tell me what i should be seeing?
  168. ZjP: nanashi____: translation?-
  169. MagicalKarp: anyone click nanashi____ 's link..?
  170. emma: Bitcoin Foundation is a trade organization that people pay their way into, and unfortunately the people with the most money in the bitcoin world are also disproportionately dirty scumbags.
  171. ZjP: MagicalKarp: Yes, audio file in japanese.
  172. nanashi____: i dont japan
  173. ppvkignx: MagicalKarp its a recording in japanese
  174. MagicalKarp: right.
  175. ToasterOven joined the chat room.
  176. cokea joined the chat room.
  177. cokea: nanashi____ what's that
  178. cokea: ?
  179. SuSEno: emma: but it's the fact, they don't care about Bitcoin Economy as far as I know
  180. btcide: It sounds legit
  181. btcide: There is a native speaker
  182. nanashi____: mark talk to bank
  183. MasterMaA: Shrem and MK were in the board of Bitcoin Foundation
  184. btcide: And someone with an accent
  185. MagicalKarp: nanashi____: where did this come from?
  186. cokea: how did you get it
  187. cokea: and what does it say nanashi____
  188. pasod: zomgg new anouncement!! in ~1-2 hours incompatible encoding
  189. Copesetic: was this recorded secretly?
  190. nanashi____: i dont japan dont understad content
  191. as far as i know"
  192. nanashi____: japan speaker could transate i hoped
  193. SuSEno: yeah I can be wrong
  194. evilmushroom: what's in Japanese?
  195. rereadd joined the chat room.
  196. MagicalKarp: his recording (link)
  197. MagicalKarp: ANYONE SPEAK JAPANESE HERE?
  198. evilmushroom: me
  199. wiz: i do but im on the phone now
  200. MagicalKarp: you, click that link and report
  201. Copesetic: Its a half hour recording
  202. ZjP: evilmushroom: You are now our unpaid translator.
  203. usaoscoin: lol.
  204. thrasher1: new mtgox announcement in 1-2 hours?
  205. neko_jita: I do
  206. MagicalKarp:
  207. ZjP: neko_jita: You are now our unpaid translator.
  208. GuestLjL: douzo yorosiku onegai simasu
  209. MagicalKarp: lol.
  210. neko_jita: nice, glad I have my gox coins to fall back on
  211. itbaron joined the chat room.
  212. MagicalKarp: lololol
  213.  
  214. nanashi____: they have 20gb document and give me share here
  215. emma: is nanashi____ a hacker?
  216. nanashi____: i not hacker
  217. evildave666: though I'm happy I got mine back
  218. nanashi____: just posting
  219. JohnKerr_ is now known as JohnKerr.
  220. denemy: same here
  221. usaoscoin: emma: just a messenger i think
  222. danadanadana: nanashi: who gave you?
  223. pasod: denemy: because they could and have to i suppose
  224. Dr-G: post more :>
  225. Hachima: thanks for the info
  226. Concurrent581072: nanashi, 20gb document? jesus
  227. Rizar: lol :DF
  228. greenut: i know why... mark is just a stupid geek boy. he made two mistakes that pros won't ever make: he didn't do homework to study countries finance laws... for example he did set up a company in the US but he forgot to sign paper stating that the company he owns that they doesn't deal in or exchange money, and that it doesn't send funds based on customer instructions which did lead to US seize 5 millions.
  229. usaoscoin: shit, is that the database
  230. tarix_jp: at 26minutes the bank guy confirms its mizuho
  231. Hachima: people deserve the truth
  232. Concurrent581072: nanashi, thank you for the info
  233. dosteria: nanashi : upload somewhere
  234. emma: nanashi____: are you claiming there has been a bot net in Mark's office for a year?
  235. btcide: finished the recording - MK had some issues with banks and was aiming to be cooperative
  236. Rizar: meaby in this documents we will find private key ;d
  237. usaoscoin: the 20gb could be the database
  238. oldaco: nanashi____: do you need storage ? account ? server ? anything ?
  239. usaoscoin: customer database...
  240. evildave666: japan is understandable, but I have no clue why sepas got paid out last week
  241. nanashi____: i just translate some the line in room of talk
  242. nanashi____: is russian
  243. btcide: nothing really interesting for gox's future
  244. nanashi____: so copy paste here senseless
  245. pasod: evildave666: they've been paying it normally, the only issue was with internatinoal wires
  246. ZjP: nanashi____: We can find unpaid russian translators too
  247. dosteria: nanashi : do you have the whole 20gb ?
  248. nanashi____: i dont have file
  249. usaoscoin: wtf the 20gb... could be serious bad news
  250. nanashi____: just get link to post
  251. pasod: evildave666: well, with some delay...
  252. nanashi____: apology
  253. pasod: what is the 20gb doc?
  254. evildave666: pasod: on the 24th the delay was over a month on jpy, on the 25th almost all of the queue was processed.
  255. denemy: @eveildave666 right. if it was only Japan, then it's easy to understand.. One of my withdrawal was 30 days late when I got it, minutes before Gox went down
  256. Copesetic: I seriously hope that's not everyone's private info
  257. usaoscoin: same here Copesetic
  258. ineededausername: http://picosong.com/Y7di/ ?
  259. Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
  260. danadanadana: nanashi____: where did you get the link?
  261. frzl: AML.pdf
  262. emma: nanashi____: please have the hackers you are working for send 120 BTC here 12GfYyWivb8TDFD38BhWD1zKASNenxdFEg That was my money I need to pay my loans.
  263. dosteria: frzl : wtf are u talking about?
  264. hadoopSucks: trying to download that file but teh site sint clear how to grab the pdf
  265. piluso: That pdf is a tenant application form
  266. Concurrent581072: nanashi, could you give the link to the post?
  267. pasod: emma lol
  268. nanashi____: i cant share original
  269. nanashi____: useless to ask
  270. nanashi____: just when i get document i post here okay?
  271. pasod: ok
  272. Concurrent581072: nanashi, okay thank you
  273. emma: nanashi____: okay thanks.
  274. evildave666: only 1 person with pending jpy that I know of did not get processed on the 25th, but his was a 2 million yen transaction.
  275. danadanadana: ok then
  276. Hachima: ok, thanks nanashi
  277. ZjP: emma: You might find that $60000 is not worth the money laundering charges
  278. dosteria: nanashi : ok thank you very much
  279. roygbiv2: Does the PDF say when the lease ran out or was it a rolling monthly contract?
  280. pasod: there are private keys to share? lol
  281. nanashi____: when proxy is block i must stop but for now is ok
  282. greenut: thanks btcide
  283. paxos is now known as paxos^off.
  284. evildave666: that's the lease from the new office
  285. roygbiv2: oh.. right.
  286. danadanadana: nanashi____: do you have money in mt gox?
  287. Concurrent581072: evildave666, did you listen to the whole conversation with the bank? anything useful?
  288. hadoopSucks: ty nanshi
  289. nanashi____: i never use gox
  290. hadoopSucks: ty nanshi
  291. nanashi____: is pile of shit
  292. oldaco: \o/
  293. pasod: lol
  294. evildave666: may 26 2012 to may 2014
  295. Concurrent581072: lol
  296. danadanadana: nanashi____: how did you involved in this?
  297. emma: nanashi____: but if you talk to the people who stole the money, please have them return 120 BTC of it to me here: 12GfYyWivb8TDFD38BhWD1zKASNenxdFEg you can read about me here: http://emnode.blogspot.com/2014/02/dear-mark-karpeles-my-name-is-emma.html
  298. Title: [ emnode: An Open Letter to Mark Karpeles ]
  299. MagicalKarp: nanashi____: where are you from?
  300. denemy: >evildave666 : mine were for 1M
  301. nanashi____: serbia
  302. MagicalKarp: right k
  303. funfare: hi
  304. it is dated on 2012, hardly new office
  305. denemy: divided in 3 transactions
  306. dosteria: if personal infos have leaked that would just be the cherry on the cake
  307. reb0rn: nanasi dokazi
  308. evildave666: nothing useful up to 30 minutes.
  309. evildave666: its for the new office address
  310. btcide: evildave666: agree I listened to the whole thing
  311. Mark_Karpeles300: I swallowed the private keys guys
  312. MagicalKarp: Mark_Karpeles300 change name
  313. LittleDuke: Here's how Gox will reboot itself -- it will pre-mine a bunch of a whole new block -- then they will offer it pro-rata to everyone they screwed -- set up a new exchange to swap goxcoins for other crypto -- the judges will deem this as fair
  314. kcinolo: nanashi____: did botnet steal the coins
  315. Mark_Karpeles300: we're just waiting for them to pass
  316. btcide: but let us know if you hear something I missed
  317. MagicalKarp: Mark_Karpeles300: change your name
  318. danadanadana: so according to nanashi____, russians are hacked into mtgox computers, as we can see some evidence
  319. pasod: emma: it's a selfish thing to do, we all have problems... but probably i'll request mine too if i could
  320. piluso: are you guys talking about this? https://pdfshare.it/doc/7HSBAIHC1/001
  321. ZjP: (North American's should take this oppertunity to put a flag on their credit accounts)
  322. Title: [ PDFshare.it ]
  323. yerp: wow, good chance they have customers docs
  324. emma: pasod: if the hacker's messenger is here, I only have a moment to ask them to give my money back
  325. reb0rn: emma its not from a hacker 99%
  326. rfish: http://picosong.com/Y7di/
  327. Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
  328. Concurrent581072: nanashi, are the people leaking this the people responsible for stealing the btc?
  329. pasod: i don't think the person who gots the bitcoins wouldn't risk to come here
  330. mtgox182: emma, did you quit your job? you're always on here now..
  331. ZjP: reb0rn: 1% chance to get $60000 does have an expected value of $600
  332. emma: mtgox182: no i didn't. sadly.
  333. emma: mtgox182: its sunday
  334. it is midnight, you should go to sleep
  335. Hiro2: anybody who understands Japanese already listeing to the recording?
  336. linagee: did Mark steal the bitcoins?
  337. rmoen|away is now known as rmoen.
  338. emma: piluso: that's true
  339. nanashi____: http://pastebin.com/2QvBdNea
  340. Title: [ Name Home Mobile Personal Email Emergency Contact Emergency Number Adam Turner - Pastebin.com ]
  341. pasod: linagee: who knows
  342. emma: i was about to and then all this happened
  343. emma: mtgox182: are you always mtgox182 ? It seems like I see 182 a lot
  344. oldaco: wow
  345. pasod: o.O
  346. usaoscoin: nanashi____: employees ?
  347. mtgox182: yes lol
  348. evildave666: nothing important in the audio file
  349. nanashi____: but is old file
  350. Rizar: LOl
  351. piluso: wtf
  352. Rizar: so gox lost our documents too
  353. Concurrent581072: mark karpeles contact info
  354. Rizar: bitcoins fiat and our documents
  355. Rizar: OMG
  356. thoughtcourier: employees... oh man, I hope they changed their numbers.
  357. Concurrent581072: nanashi, this is great keep it coming
  358. nanashi____: there is photocopy of passport and so on
  359. nanashi____: in this files
  360. nanashi____: but they dont share
  361. piluso: wtf
  362. Copesetic: dammit
  363. danadanadana: someone is trying to prove something
  364. pasod: moar
  365. Concurrent581072: nanashi, are these the people who stole the btc?
  366. piluso: do you have the photocopies of verified users?
  367. emmettoc: Summary: The bank wanted to close Gox's account peacefully and Gox could say nothing now, so the bank said "we can close it forcibly". Also Gox had some problems with CitiBank.
  368. Concurrent581072: nanashi, the people leaking i mean
  369. Copesetic: Seriously everyone time to enroll in identity theft protection
  370. funfare: uh wtf
  371. Hiro2: I started listening to the audio file now, nank is wondering why the activity in the account have gone down recently
  372. funfare: copies of verified accounts users? where?
  373. JohnKerr_ is now known as JohnKerr.
  374. hadoopSucks: @danadanadana where are you getting this, russian hackers?
  375. dosteria: omg
  376. oldaco: well... if customer IDs were stolen, hell will break lose on gox
  377. mtgox182: its from an old pastebin
  378. usaoscoin: wtf...
  379. nanashi____: gox store the all info in mysql
  380. nanashi____: someone trying to reading dump
  381. blueocean: apprently mark is still claiming that there are buyers
  382. nanashi____: but too large
  383. blueocean: and a police invsetigation is ongoing
  384. tarix_jp: emmettoc: and Mark trying to keep the account open by focusing on the increase in Japanese customers.
  385. danadanadana: these documents look like taken from o users computer
  386. funfare: Trade With Confidence
  387. hadoopSucks: nanshi i can parse mysql but where is the link to the db file
  388. dsfa14: lmfao
  389. tt: 23:54:54 <tt> Hi, do you have a moment to talk?
  390. tt: whoops
  391. danadanadana: not the exchange itself
  392. LittleDuke: emma i just socialed your open letter out on LinkedIN and Twitter
  393. emmettoc: tarix_jp: yep
  394. tt: is "social" a verb now?
  395. LittleDuke: yeah
  396. tt: I may have to go jump off a bridge.
  397. LittleDuke: "socialed"
  398. pasod: tt i'll go after you
  399. ZjP: tt: <vomit>
  400. tarix_jp: and like all good Japanese meetings, no decision and no resolution but i'm guessing Mark got bad news later on.
  401. LittleDuke: go for it
  402. tt: (joke's on you, I'll bring a bungee cord)
  403. evildave666: every time I hear friend used as a verb I get the urge to kill
  404. LittleDuke: i figured when "winingest" made it in, it was all fair game
  405. hensai: was there supposed to be an announcement about half an hour ago?
  406. ZjP: tt: joke's on you, you'll be alive in a word with social as a verb.
  407. ZjP: world**
  408. emmettoc: MK said "There are about 50m-200m JPY deposit per day by Japanese customers", did he?
  409. emma: So now because I got verified on MtGox im going to end up on some no fly list?
  410. hadoopSucks: folks i dont see any link to a mysql file, danadanadana can you repost link
  411. danadanadana: it wasn't me
  412. danadanadana: it's nanashi____ sharing all these files/documents
  413. tt: "winningest" is at least playful
  414. hadoopSucks: where is link in caht he did tho idont see it
  415. ZjP: emma: Only if your name/age would be believable if used by a 16-24 year old arabic man.
  416. hadoopSucks: all i have is some pdf
  417. evildave666: emmettoc: didn't get that part, do you have a timeindex for that?
  418. pasod: nanashi____: from what date is those files? old?
  419. emma: ZjP: haha okay good
  420. nanashi____: yes is old
  421. danadanadana: he is in contact with some russian people, who are sharing links with him
  422. nanashi____: new document not so many
  423. nanashi____: because they put in db
  424. pasod: ok
  425. LittleDuke: OFFS -- getting AML verified wins you extra pat downs? PLEASE -- only if you ever xferred a shitload of fiat without declaring it
  426. MagicalKarp: So the pastebin with the contact info was already known?
  427. emmettoc: evildave666: around the last part...
  428. nanashi____: no was not known
  429. nanashi____: old mean
  430. nanashi____: files are older
  431. pasod: nanashi____: it's all users personal information? or what it is?
  432. emma: this is ridiculous
  433. funfare: what is going on
  434. emma: if ever i did have any bitcoins again. Im never using any exchange outside the USA. Hell no.
  435. LittleDuke: if you acted in "good faith" you have nothing to worry about -- you can of course take down the badge and name of any "officer" who interrogates you
  436. emma: Just ridiculous
  437. reb0rn: MtGox at start was USA
  438. oldaco: Emergency contact / Emergency number supposedly applies to employees, not customers
  439. danadanadana: nanashi____: have you ever used mt-gox?
  440. oldaco: but god know what else they got their hands on
  441. ZjP: Not 4 weeks ago I passed through the TSA without a single piece of ID. Claims about them being over-bearing or evil are greatly exaggerated.
  442. oldaco: knows
  443. Hachima: he said no
  444. nanashi____: MagicalKarp says i must stop to post
  445. nanashi____: we will probably leak torrent
  446. nanashi____: also of sources
  447. tt: ZjP: how'd that go? extra screening?
  448. emma: nanashi____: are you relaying info for the same people who stole the money?
  449. Hachima: You can find a new channel
  450. LittleDuke: "they were surprising gentle"
  451. tt: ZjP: (I did that once; they increased the ID requirements while I was on a trip.)
  452. phantomcircuit: that info is anclient
  453. ZjP: tt: Nope, just a standard proceduce to verify my identity. Asked the info that would have been on my ID, and called it in.
  454. tt: ZjP: ah, alright
  455. tt: ZjP: did they get a picture to compare?
  456. ZjP: tt: Don't think so. On the other end of the phone they might have been describing what I looked like on the ID they had no doubt pulled up electronically.
  457. LittleDuke: love that "new screening procedure" where you get to touch an iPad and then randomly get to go through an old school metal detector -- you know...just like the old days...
  458. hadoopSucks: @danadanadana looking above i see no link with documents in it other than the small lease pdf, if nanshi posted another link to docs can u repaste please
  459. tt: *nod*
  460. emma: nanashi____: are you relaying info for the same people who stole the money?
  461. danadanadana: just 3 links, one of them is about the offce
  462. nanashi____: they not stealer
  463. ZjP: No, I don't think he's getting it from mark...
  464. nanashi____: just want to show truth
  465. danadanadana: one of them is a sound recording
  466. nanashi____: but not easy
  467. emmettoc: evildave666: about 34:40
  468. emma: nanashi____: do you have all the BTC? If so could you please have them send my 120 BTC back?
  469. danadanadana: and a list of workers with contact details
  470. emma: nanashi____: okay I see. Well thanks for the truth.
  471. oldaco: nanashi____: Thank you.
  472. nanashi____: we dont have btc
  473. Hachima: emma he is just a relay and no he can't get your BTC back
  474. usaoscoin: nanashi____: who has btc
  475. hadoopSucks: is there any link to 20GB of data?
  476. free_: hey Nanashi, can I ask where these files are coming from?
  477. denemy: LOL @ +emma
  478. nanashi____: unknown
  479. emma: nanashi____: If you don't mind - could you please ask your hacker friends not to publish our passports?
  480. nanashi____: maybe put in fat french boss ass
  481. pasod: they're coming from mtgox obviously lol
  482. kcinolo: lol
  483. ZjP: nanashi____: The folks have any idea what happened to the BTC (lost key / stolen recently / stolen in 2011?)
  484. free_: Unknown, but are you getting them from somewhere?
  485. kcinolo: nanashi____: where will you put torrent?
  486. usaoscoin: nanashi____: how do you get paid
  487. dizko: yea please release info about mtgox's fraud, don't screw over all the customers again by releasing their personal info
  488. nanashi____: i dont paid
  489. pasod: i think the information it's more important than where it comes from or who is him
  490. Hachima: Where will the torrent be posted?
  491. evildave666: emmettoc: Yeah, that sounds right.
  492. nanashi____: want gox boss going a jail for crime against user
  493. emma: nanashi____: - fraud deserves to be revealed. innocent customer information doesn't. Okay?
  494. reb0rn: nansi ne seri
  495. gmaxwell: nanashi____: if you need someone to handle the data with respect for personal info, let me know and I can connect you with someone trustworthy.
  496. ToasterOven: dizko: glad your back
  497. gmaxwell: (who can also validate the integrity of the data)
  498. evildave666: though probably incorrect, since the banker was saying from japanese people but really meant via domestic transfer.
  499. nanashi____: passport copy not release
  500. pasod: nanashi____: tell your friends to respect users personal information please
  501. nanashi____: they look for non personal document at moment
  502.  
  503. nanashi____: they have 20gb document and give me share here
  504. emma: is nanashi____ a hacker?
  505. nanashi____: i not hacker
  506. evildave666: though I'm happy I got mine back
  507. andrew9183_ joined the chat room.
  508. JohnKerr_ joined the chat room.
  509. nanashi____: just posting
  510. JohnKerr_ is now known as JohnKerr.
  511. denemy: same here
  512. usaoscoin: emma: just a messenger i think
  513. danadanadana: nanashi: who gave you?
  514. pasod: denemy: because they could and have to i suppose
  515. Dr-G: post more :>
  516. Hachima: thanks for the info
  517. Concurrent581072: nanashi, 20gb document? jesus
  518. ineededausername joined the chat room.
  519. Rizar: lol :DF
  520. greenut: i know why... mark is just a stupid geek boy. he made two mistakes that pros won't ever make: he didn't do homework to study countries finance laws... for example he did set up a company in the US but he forgot to sign paper stating that the company he owns that they doesn't deal in or exchange money, and that it doesn't send funds based on customer instructions which did lead to US seize 5 millions.
  521. usaoscoin: shit, is that the database
  522. tarix_jp: at 26minutes the bank guy confirms its mizuho
  523. Hachima: people deserve the truth
  524. Concurrent581072: nanashi, thank you for the info
  525. dosteria: nanashi : upload somewhere
  526. emma: nanashi____: are you claiming there has been a bot net in Mark's office for a year?
  527. btcide: finished the recording - MK had some issues with banks and was aiming to be cooperative
  528. emsid joined the chat room.
  529. Rizar: meaby in this documents we will find private key ;d
  530. usaoscoin: the 20gb could be the database
  531. oldaco: nanashi____: do you need storage ? account ? server ? anything ?
  532. usaoscoin: customer database...
  533. evildave666: japan is understandable, but I have no clue why sepas got paid out last week
  534. nanashi____: i just translate some the line in room of talk
  535. nanashi____: is russian
  536. btcide: nothing really interesting for gox's future
  537. nanashi____: so copy paste here senseless
  538. pasod: evildave666: they've been paying it normally, the only issue was with internatinoal wires
  539. ZjP: nanashi____: We can find unpaid russian translators too
  540. dosteria: nanashi : do you have the whole 20gb ?
  541. nanashi____: i dont have file
  542. _ImI_ joined the chat room.
  543. usaoscoin: wtf the 20gb... could be serious bad news
  544. nanashi____: just get link to post
  545. pasod: evildave666: well, with some delay...
  546. danieleff joined the chat room.
  547. nanashi____: apology
  548. pasod: what is the 20gb doc?
  549. evildave666: pasod: on the 24th the delay was over a month on jpy, on the 25th almost all of the queue was processed.
  550. denemy: @eveildave666 right. if it was only Japan, then it's easy to understand.. One of my withdrawal was 30 days late when I got it, minutes before Gox went down
  551. Copesetic: I seriously hope that's not everyone's private info
  552. usaoscoin: same here Copesetic
  553. ineededausername: http://picosong.com/Y7di/ ?
  554. Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
  555. danadanadana: nanashi____: where did you get the link?
  556. frzl: AML.pdf
  557. emma: nanashi____: please have the hackers you are working for send 120 BTC here 12GfYyWivb8TDFD38BhWD1zKASNenxdFEg That was my money I need to pay my loans.
  558. dosteria: frzl : wtf are u talking about?
  559. hadoopSucks: trying to download that file but teh site sint clear how to grab the pdf
  560. piluso: That pdf is a tenant application form
  561. Concurrent581072: nanashi, could you give the link to the post?
  562. pasod: emma lol
  563. nanashi____: i cant share original
  564. nanashi____: useless to ask
  565. nanashi____: just when i get document i post here okay?
  566. pasod: ok
  567. Concurrent581072: nanashi, okay thank you
  568. emma: nanashi____: okay thanks.
  569. evildave666: only 1 person with pending jpy that I know of did not get processed on the 25th, but his was a 2 million yen transaction.
  570. danadanadana: ok then
  571. Hachima: ok, thanks nanashi
  572. ZjP: emma: You might find that $60000 is not worth the money laundering charges
  573. dosteria: nanashi : ok thank you very much
  574. MustardKing joined the chat room.
  575. roygbiv2: Does the PDF say when the lease ran out or was it a rolling monthly contract?
  576. pasod: there are private keys to share? lol
  577. nanashi____: when proxy is block i must stop but for now is ok
  578. greenut: thanks btcide
  579. paxos is now known as paxos^off.
  580. evildave666: that's the lease from the new office
  581. roygbiv2: oh.. right.
  582. danadanadana: nanashi____: do you have money in mt gox?
  583. Concurrent581072: evildave666, did you listen to the whole conversation with the bank? anything useful?
  584. hadoopSucks: ty nanshi
  585. nanashi____: i never use gox
  586. hadoopSucks: ty nanshi
  587. nanashi____: is pile of shit
  588. oldaco: \o/
  589. pasod: lol
  590. evildave666: may 26 2012 to may 2014
  591. Concurrent581072: lol
  592. danadanadana: nanashi____: how did you involved in this?
  593. emma: nanashi____: but if you talk to the people who stole the money, please have them return 120 BTC of it to me here: 12GfYyWivb8TDFD38BhWD1zKASNenxdFEg you can read about me here: http://emnode.blogspot.com/2014/02/dear-mark-karpeles-my-name-is-emma.html
  594. Title: [ emnode: An Open Letter to Mark Karpeles ]
  595. MagicalKarp: nanashi____: where are you from?
  596. denemy: >evildave666 : mine were for 1M
  597. nanashi____: serbia
  598. MagicalKarp: right k
  599. funfare: hi
  600. it is dated on 2012, hardly new office
  601. denemy: divided in 3 transactions
  602. dosteria: if personal infos have leaked that would just be the cherry on the cake
  603. reb0rn: nanasi dokazi
  604. evildave666: nothing useful up to 30 minutes.
  605. Mark_Karpeles300 joined the chat room.
  606. evildave666: its for the new office address
  607. embm joined the chat room.
  608. btcide: evildave666: agree I listened to the whole thing
  609. Mark_Karpeles300: I swallowed the private keys guys
  610. MagicalKarp: Mark_Karpeles300 change name
  611. LittleDuke: Here's how Gox will reboot itself -- it will pre-mine a bunch of a whole new block -- then they will offer it pro-rata to everyone they screwed -- set up a new exchange to swap goxcoins for other crypto -- the judges will deem this as fair
  612. kcinolo: nanashi____: did botnet steal the coins
  613. Mark_Karpeles300: we're just waiting for them to pass
  614. btcide: but let us know if you hear something I missed
  615. MagicalKarp: Mark_Karpeles300: change your name
  616. danadanadana: so according to nanashi____, russians are hacked into mtgox computers, as we can see some evidence
  617. pasod: emma: it's a selfish thing to do, we all have problems... but probably i'll request mine too if i could
  618. piluso: are you guys talking about this? https://pdfshare.it/doc/7HSBAIHC1/001
  619. ZjP: (North American's should take this oppertunity to put a flag on their credit accounts)
  620. Title: [ PDFshare.it ]
  621. yerp: wow, good chance they have customers docs
  622. emma: pasod: if the hacker's messenger is here, I only have a moment to ask them to give my money back
  623. mtgox182 joined the chat room.
  624. reb0rn: emma its not from a hacker 99%
  625. benjings joined the chat room.
  626. rfish: http://picosong.com/Y7di/
  627. Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
  628. Concurrent581072: nanashi, are the people leaking this the people responsible for stealing the btc?
  629. pasod: i don't think the person who gots the bitcoins wouldn't risk to come here
  630. mtgox182: emma, did you quit your job? you're always on here now..
  631. ZjP: reb0rn: 1% chance to get $60000 does have an expected value of $600
  632. mb300sd joined the chat room.
  633. emma: mtgox182: no i didn't. sadly.
  634. emma: mtgox182: its sunday
  635. it is midnight, you should go to sleep
  636. Hiro2: anybody who understands Japanese already listeing to the recording?
  637. linagee: did Mark steal the bitcoins?
  638. rmoen|away is now known as rmoen.
  639. emma: piluso: that's true
  640. nanashi____: http://pastebin.com/2QvBdNea
  641. Title: [ Name Home Mobile Personal Email Emergency Contact Emergency Number Adam Turner - Pastebin.com ]
  642. pasod: linagee: who knows
  643. emma: i was about to and then all this happened
  644. relatic3 joined the chat room.
  645. emma: mtgox182: are you always mtgox182 ? It seems like I see 182 a lot
  646. oldaco: wow
  647. pasod: o.O
  648. usaoscoin: nanashi____: employees ?
  649. mtgox182: yes lol
  650. evildave666: nothing important in the audio file
  651. nanashi____: but is old file
  652. Rizar: LOl
  653. piluso: wtf
  654. Rizar: so gox lost our documents too
  655. Concurrent581072: mark karpeles contact info
  656. Rizar: bitcoins fiat and our documents
  657. Rizar: OMG
  658. thoughtcourier: employees... oh man, I hope they changed their numbers.
  659. Concurrent581072: nanashi, this is great keep it coming
  660. nanashi____: there is photocopy of passport and so on
  661. nanashi____: in this files
  662. nanashi____: but they dont share
  663. piluso: wtf
  664. Copesetic: dammit
  665. JohnKerr_ joined the chat room.
  666. danadanadana: someone is trying to prove something
  667. pasod: moar
  668. Concurrent581072: nanashi, are these the people who stole the btc?
  669. piluso: do you have the photocopies of verified users?
  670. emmettoc: Summary: The bank wanted to close Gox's account peacefully and Gox could say nothing now, so the bank said "we can close it forcibly". Also Gox had some problems with CitiBank.
  671. Concurrent581072: nanashi, the people leaking i mean
  672. Copesetic: Seriously everyone time to enroll in identity theft protection
  673. funfare: uh wtf
  674. Hiro2: I started listening to the audio file now, nank is wondering why the activity in the account have gone down recently
  675. funfare: copies of verified accounts users? where?
  676. JohnKerr_ is now known as JohnKerr.
  677. hadoopSucks: @danadanadana where are you getting this, russian hackers?
  678. dosteria: omg
  679. oldaco: well... if customer IDs were stolen, hell will break lose on gox
  680. mtgox182: its from an old pastebin
  681. usaoscoin: wtf...
  682. nanashi____: gox store the all info in mysql
  683. nanashi____: someone trying to reading dump
  684. blueocean: apprently mark is still claiming that there are buyers
  685. nanashi____: but too large
  686. johansen joined the chat room.
  687. blueocean: and a police invsetigation is ongoing
  688. tarix_jp: emmettoc: and Mark trying to keep the account open by focusing on the increase in Japanese customers.
  689. danadanadana: these documents look like taken from o users computer
  690. funfare: Trade With Confidence
  691. hadoopSucks: nanshi i can parse mysql but where is the link to the db file
  692. dsfa14: lmfao
  693. sy5error joined the chat room.
  694. tt: 23:54:54 <tt> Hi, do you have a moment to talk?
  695. tt: whoops
  696. danadanadana: not the exchange itself
  697. LittleDuke: emma i just socialed your open letter out on LinkedIN and Twitter
  698. emmettoc: tarix_jp: yep
  699. hensai joined the chat room.
  700. tt: is "social" a verb now?
  701. LittleDuke: yeah
  702. tt: I may have to go jump off a bridge.
  703. LittleDuke: "socialed"
  704. pasod: tt i'll go after you
  705. ZjP: tt: <vomit>
  706. tarix_jp: and like all good Japanese meetings, no decision and no resolution but i'm guessing Mark got bad news later on.
  707. LittleDuke: go for it
  708. tt: (joke's on you, I'll bring a bungee cord)
  709. evildave666: every time I hear friend used as a verb I get the urge to kill
  710. LittleDuke: i figured when "winingest" made it in, it was all fair game
  711. hensai: was there supposed to be an announcement about half an hour ago?
  712. ZjP: tt: joke's on you, you'll be alive in a word with social as a verb.
  713. johnscoin joined the chat room.
  714. ZjP: world**
  715. emmettoc: MK said "There are about 50m-200m JPY deposit per day by Japanese customers", did he?
  716. emma: So now because I got verified on MtGox im going to end up on some no fly list?
  717. JohnKerr joined the chat room.
  718. hadoopSucks: folks i dont see any link to a mysql file, danadanadana can you repost link
  719. danadanadana: it wasn't me
  720. danadanadana: it's nanashi____ sharing all these files/documents
  721. tt: "winningest" is at least playful
  722. hadoopSucks: where is link in caht he did tho idont see it
  723. ZjP: emma: Only if your name/age would be believable if used by a 16-24 year old arabic man.
  724. hadoopSucks: all i have is some pdf
  725. evildave666: emmettoc: didn't get that part, do you have a timeindex for that?
  726. pasod: nanashi____: from what date is those files? old?
  727. emma: ZjP: haha okay good
  728. nanashi____: yes is old
  729. danadanadana: he is in contact with some russian people, who are sharing links with him
  730. nanashi____: new document not so many
  731. nanashi____: because they put in db
  732. pasod: ok
  733. LittleDuke: OFFS -- getting AML verified wins you extra pat downs? PLEASE -- only if you ever xferred a shitload of fiat without declaring it
  734. MagicalKarp: So the pastebin with the contact info was already known?
  735. emmettoc: evildave666: around the last part...
  736. nanashi____: no was not known
  737. nanashi____: old mean
  738. nanashi____: files are older
  739. pasod: nanashi____: it's all users personal information? or what it is?
  740. emma: this is ridiculous
  741. ellipse joined the chat room.
  742. funfare: what is going on
  743. emma: if ever i did have any bitcoins again. Im never using any exchange outside the USA. Hell no.
  744. LittleDuke: if you acted in "good faith" you have nothing to worry about -- you can of course take down the badge and name of any "officer" who interrogates you
  745. emma: Just ridiculous
  746. reb0rn: MtGox at start was USA
  747. oldaco: Emergency contact / Emergency number supposedly applies to employees, not customers
  748. danadanadana: nanashi____: have you ever used mt-gox?
  749. oldaco: but god know what else they got their hands on
  750. ZjP: Not 4 weeks ago I passed through the TSA without a single piece of ID. Claims about them being over-bearing or evil are greatly exaggerated.
  751. oldaco: knows
  752. Hachima: he said no
  753. nanashi____: MagicalKarp says i must stop to post
  754. nanashi____: we will probably leak torrent
  755. nanashi____: also of sources
  756. tt: ZjP: how'd that go? extra screening?
  757. ellipse_ joined the chat room.
  758. emma: nanashi____: are you relaying info for the same people who stole the money?
  759. Hachima: You can find a new channel
  760. LittleDuke: "they were surprising gentle"
  761. tt: ZjP: (I did that once; they increased the ID requirements while I was on a trip.)
  762. phantomcircuit: that info is anclient
  763. ZjP: tt: Nope, just a standard proceduce to verify my identity. Asked the info that would have been on my ID, and called it in.
  764. tt: ZjP: ah, alright
  765. tt: ZjP: did they get a picture to compare?
  766. grbox2014 joined the chat room.
  767. frozenlock joined the chat room.
  768. ZjP: tt: Don't think so. On the other end of the phone they might have been describing what I looked like on the ID they had no doubt pulled up electronically.
  769. LittleDuke: love that "new screening procedure" where you get to touch an iPad and then randomly get to go through an old school metal detector -- you know...just like the old days...
  770. hadoopSucks: @danadanadana looking above i see no link with documents in it other than the small lease pdf, if nanshi posted another link to docs can u repaste please
  771. tt: *nod*
  772. sideshow_ joined the chat room.
  773. emma: nanashi____: are you relaying info for the same people who stole the money?
  774. danadanadana: just 3 links, one of them is about the offce
  775. nanashi____: they not stealer
  776. ZjP: No, I don't think he's getting it from mark...
  777. nanashi____: just want to show truth
  778. danadanadana: one of them is a sound recording
  779. rav` joined the chat room.
  780. nanashi____: but not easy
  781. emmettoc: evildave666: about 34:40
  782. emma: nanashi____: do you have all the BTC? If so could you please have them send my 120 BTC back?
  783. danadanadana: and a list of workers with contact details
  784. emma: nanashi____: okay I see. Well thanks for the truth.
  785. oldaco: nanashi____: Thank you.
  786. nanashi____: we dont have btc
  787. Hachima: emma he is just a relay and no he can't get your BTC back
  788. usaoscoin: nanashi____: who has btc
  789. hadoopSucks: is there any link to 20GB of data?
  790. free_: hey Nanashi, can I ask where these files are coming from?
  791. denemy: LOL @ +emma
  792. nanashi____: unknown
  793. emma: nanashi____: If you don't mind - could you please ask your hacker friends not to publish our passports?
  794. nanashi____: maybe put in fat french boss ass
  795. pasod: they're coming from mtgox obviously lol
  796. kcinolo: lol
  797. ZjP: nanashi____: The folks have any idea what happened to the BTC (lost key / stolen recently / stolen in 2011?)
  798. free_: Unknown, but are you getting them from somewhere?
  799. kcinolo: nanashi____: where will you put torrent?
  800. usaoscoin: nanashi____: how do you get paid
  801. dizko: yea please release info about mtgox's fraud, don't screw over all the customers again by releasing their personal info
  802. nanashi____: i dont paid
  803. pasod: i think the information it's more important than where it comes from or who is him
  804. Plarkplark_ joined the chat room.
  805. relatic2 joined the chat room.
  806. Hachima: Where will the torrent be posted?
  807. evildave666: emmettoc: Yeah, that sounds right.
  808. nanashi____: want gox boss going a jail for crime against user
  809. emma: nanashi____: - fraud deserves to be revealed. innocent customer information doesn't. Okay?
  810. reb0rn: nansi ne seri
  811. gmaxwell: nanashi____: if you need someone to handle the data with respect for personal info, let me know and I can connect you with someone trustworthy.
  812. ToasterOven: dizko: glad your back
  813. gmaxwell: (who can also validate the integrity of the data)
  814. evildave666: though probably incorrect, since the banker was saying from japanese people but really meant via domestic transfer.
  815. nanashi____: passport copy not release
  816. pasod: nanashi____: tell your friends to respect users personal information please
  817. nanashi____: they look for non personal document at moment