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YMMV Debate: Moleman's Wrath!

a guest Dec 6th, 2015 1,335 Never
  1. ResonX
  2. Feed.
  3. The.
  4. Troll.
  5. Geth?
  6. 3:27
  7. GethN7
  8. Yes
  9. 3:27
  10. ResonX
  11. Ah, there you are.
  12. 3:27
  13. GethN7
  14. What is it?
  15. 3:27
  16. ResonX
  17. Good timing, that.
  18. Please stop feeding the troll, and delete her YMMV page (as well as the conversations involving her and her manipulative lies)
  19. 3:28
  20. Benisjihad
  21. Hello
  22. Welcome to the All The Tropes Wiki chat
  23. 3:28
  24. ResonX
  25. Please kick these other trolls as well.
  26. 3:28
  27. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  28. Hello
  29. 3:28
  30. ArbiterSweets
  31. What's going on?
  32. 3:29
  33. Benisjihad
  34. I've been here for a long time
  35. 3:29
  36. ArbiterSweets
  37. why did i see the YMMV page marked for deletion
  38. 3:29
  39. Benisjihad
  40. Before you joined actually
  41. 3:29
  42. GethN7
  43. I am remvoing it. The entries added are quite reasonable and verifiable
  44. 3:30
  45. ArbiterSweets
  46. Moleman can you please refrain from being censorious, it's almost 1984 levels of censorship you're trying here mate.
  47.  
  48. Benisjihad
  49. Navaverse doubleplusgood
  50. 3:31
  51. ArbiterSweets
  52. Yeah me and Geth gave you a chance to come and discuss everything with us
  53. 3:32
  54. GethN7
  55. Moleman asked to continue this conversation privatelty, and I have refused. I believe it's best we all speak out in the open.
  56. 3:32
  57. Benisjihad
  58. Probably a good idea
  59. He likes to keep discourse away from anybody who may disagree
  60. 3:33
  61. ArbiterSweets
  62. That's honestly vary disappointing to hear.
  63. 3:33
  64. GethN7
  65. our conversation so far
  66. 3:33
  67. ArbiterSweets
  68. I had a higher opinion of Moleman than that
  69. 3:33
  70. GethN7
  71. With Reson
  72. GethN7 I am terminating this private conversation. We will have transparency here.
  73. 3:34
  74. ResonX
  75. Geth, seriously.
  76. 3:34
  77. GethN7
  78.  2:31 ResonX Then please kick and ban these trolls so that they are not able to record it. Don't feed the trolls, man. That's what I'm doing here as well by not publicly responding to them.
  79. 3:34
  80. ResonX
  81. You need to stop feeding the trolls.
  82. 3:34
  83. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  84. I think that all conversation should be open
  85. 3:34
  86. Benisjihad
  87. Amigo, everybody else discusses things in the open
  88. 3:34
  89. GethN7
  90. GethN7 No. If they want to record this conversation, it is their right
  91. 3:34
  92. Benisjihad
  93. And you need to stop feeding racism
  94. And antisemitism
  95. 3:34
  96. GethN7
  97. ResonX No, it's not. They are under restraining orders from me. They forfeited all rights in regard to interactions with me long ago.
  98. GethN7 My wiki, my rules. Don't like, leave. I will be repeating this on the public channel
  99. 3:34
  100. Benisjihad
  101. Oh man
  102. Those "restraining orders" were him either posting them or yelling them like his word was the law
  103. 3:34
  104. ArbiterSweets
  105. Wait he has a legal restraining order against people or is he just saying that to appear powerful?
  106. 3:35
  107. Benisjihad
  108. There aren't any legal documents about this
  109. He doesn't even know our personal info beyond some names
  110. 3:35
  111. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  112. I remember those restraining orders
  113. Except for me, he called it a "death sentance"
  114. 3:36
  115. ArbiterSweets
  116. Honestly moleman I think if you act reasonable you can still come out as the good guy in all of this
  117. 3:36
  118. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  119. Yeah
  120. 3:36
  121. ArbiterSweets
  122. You need to listen to Geth, this is his site and thus his rules.
  123. You don't get to make the rules or bend them anyway you like like some sort of ban evading cyberbully.
  124.  
  125. GethN7
  126. I saw Reson tried to remove content I verified. He will be blocked as punishment
  127. 3:37
  128. Benisjihad
  129. Oh my.
  130. How immature
  131. 3:38
  132. GethN7
  133. If he cannot understand why, the block will be longer
  134. 3:38
  135. Benisjihad
  136. Especially since he did it immediately after you told him not to
  137. 3:38
  138. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  139. ResonX, please control yourself
  140. 3:38
  141. GethN7
  142. ResonX Do not block me.
  143. 3:38
  144. ResonX
  145. Stop feeding the trolls, Geth.
  146. 3:38
  147. Benisjihad
  148. Gabe
  149. 3:38
  150. GethN7
  151. Reson, I will do what I please to maintain order, you are disrupting it
  152. 3:38
  153. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  154. "trolls"
  155. 3:38
  156. Benisjihad
  157. Actually offer something besides memetics for discussion
  158. 3:38
  159. ResonX
  160. Excuse me, how would Benisjihad know my name?
  161. 3:38
  162. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  163. We just happen to disagree with you resonx
  164. 3:38
  165. Benisjihad
  166. Because you attach it to your work
  167. 3:38
  168. ArbiterSweets
  169. Your name is known because its attached to your work i think
  170. 3:38
  171. Benisjihad
  172. Mr. Gabriel James Navarro
  173. You know mine too
  174. Ivan
  175. 3:39
  176. ResonX
  177. If it's just disaggreement, then why do you repeatedly, actively, aggressively harass me?
  178. 3:39
  179. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  180. I'm not
  181. 3:39
  182. ResonX
  183. On my own sites, where I make the rules.
  184. 3:39
  185. Benisjihad
  186. Why do you repeatedly call my phone and scream at me?
  187. 3:39
  188. ArbiterSweets
  189. I have no knowledge of that
  190. Im just here to edit this article
  191. 3:39
  192. GethN7
  193. Reson, I was able to find information where you admit to being white supremacist, so the comment about your work having racial connotations are arguably true
  194. 3:39
  195. ArbiterSweets
  196. I don't care about your sites
  197. 3:39
  198. Benisjihad
  199. Why do you repeatedly wish death upon me and my friends?
  200. 3:39
  201. GethN7
  202. http://wayback.archive.org/web/20140726020410/http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/journal/Tagging-Response-314770650
  203. 3:39
  204. ResonX
  205. I have never called any of these trolls, they have called me.
  206. 3:40
  207. GethN7
  208. 3. I am slightly white supremacist despite not technically being white myself.
  209. 3:40
  210. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  211. So basically what you're saying is that it is against the rules to disagree with you on your sites resonx?
  212. Benisjihad
  213. Uh
  214. 3:40
  215. ResonX
  216. Why would he have something that old if he was a stranger?
  217. 3:40
  218. Benisjihad
  219. Want me to provide recordings you you calling me?
  220. 3:40
  221. GethN7
  222. Do you deny that? Also, I do not care about the offsite drama, every here, please do not drag me into it.
  223. 3:40
  224. Benisjihad
  225. Better yet, screencaps of my inbox showing an incoming call from your number
  226. 3:40
  227. ArbiterSweets
  228. I have no relation to these people, I just want to edit your article with accurate information.
  229. Why cant you talk to me civilly?
  230. So we can hash things out?
  231. 3:40
  232. Benisjihad
  233. And you screaming at me uncontrollably
  234. 3:40
  235. ResonX
  236. Any and all recordings of my voice these trolls have are from them calling me first, with harassing recordings.
  237. 3:41
  238. Benisjihad
  239. No
  240. 3:41
  241. ArbiterSweets
  242. Stop avoiding me like I'm some sort of malicious monster.
  243. 3:41
  244. Benisjihad
  245. I can prove it
  246. 3:41
  247. ArbiterSweets
  248. We have a very civil discussion with Geth
  249. 3:41
  250. GethN7
  251. I concur with Arbiter Reson, civility is preferred here.
  252. 3:41
  253. ResonX
  254. These people have a long history of making false accusatory claims.
  255. 3:41
  256. ArbiterSweets
  257. it was even pleasant
  258. 3:41
  259. ResonX
  260. "Arbiter" is Willow "Candy" Giovanna.
  261. 3:41
  262. Benisjihad
  263. And you have a long history of pedophilia, racism, antisemitism, and death threats
  264. 3:41
  265. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  266. ResonX, please cite evidence
  267. 3:41
  268. Benisjihad
  269. Also assault
  270. In real life
  271. 3:41
  272. ArbiterSweets
  273. I hardly know the Avan-Verse team ResonX
  274. 3:41
  275. Benisjihad
  276. Just ask the classmates you attacked
  277. 3:41
  278. ResonX
  279. The very username follows the pattern of her previous sockpuppets "JudgeSweets" and "LawSweets".
  280. 3:41
  281. GethN7
  282. Reson, we are here to discuss veriable information that can be argued on the YMMV page for your work. I am not here to hear your drama
  283. I do not care who you allege this people to be, they have shown me respect and courtesy, and you will do likewise, unless you want me to permaban you
  284. 3:42
  285. ResonX
  286. Why would you have documentation of stuff that old, which is now deleted, if you were not my known long-term cyberbullies?
  287. 3:42
  288. Benisjihad
  289. Okay
  290. uploading proof that you called me numerous consecutive times
  291. 3:42
  292. ResonX
  293. That is not true.
  294. YOU called ME numerous consecutive times.
  295. 3:42
  296. Benisjihad
  297. I can provide recordings too
  298. Google voice has a seperate ringtone for incoming calls
  299. 3:43
  300. GethN7
  301. Reson, the Wayback Machien is public access, I went there to find verifiable proof of your alleged racism
  302. 3:43
  303. ArbiterSweets
  304. Geth is okay that i sorta record this conversation for future reference in case of any further censorship
  305. 3:43
  306. Benisjihad
  307. present in many recordings of your unsolicited attacks upon me the person
  308. 3:43
  309. ArbiterSweets
  310. is it okay?*
  311. *
  312. JEWS:resU has joined the chat.
  313. 3:43
  314. ArbiterSweets
  315. that's irrelevant
  316. 3:43
  317. GethN7
  318. Since it's proven, and your work has some unfortante racial connotations, the YMMV page can have an entry on that topic
  319. 3:43
  320. JEWS:resU
  321. hi
  322. 3:43
  323. ResonX
  324. I have never unsolicitedly attacked any of these people, but they have repeatedly attacked me.
  325. 3:43
  326. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  327. Hello JEWS:resU
  328. 3:43
  329. ArbiterSweets
  330. we are talking about the ymmv not your drama
  331. 3:43
  332. JEWS:resU
  333. i was asked to come here
  334. 3:43
  335. ResonX
  336. By who?
  337. 3:44
  338. Benisjihad
  339. http://i.imgur.com/BrEY5Zd.png Excuse the contact name
  340. 3:44
  341. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  342. Yeah, lets stay on topic
  343. 3:44
  344. GethN7
  345. ArbiterSweets Geth is okay that i sorta record this conversation for future reference in case of any further censorship - Of course, I do not have a problem with that
  346. 3:44
  347. ResonX
  348. That is blatantly fake.
  349. 3:44
  350. ArbiterSweets
  351. thank you
  352. 3:44
  353. Benisjihad
  354. I thought it was humourous that a man of mexican descent was an open white supremacist
  355. Oh, want the calls? E
  356. 3:44
  357. ArbiterSweets
  358. I will post it on pastebin later so others may make note of it
  359. 3:44
  360. Benisjihad
  361. Even better, I might have links to a few times where you went to voicemail
  362. ResonX
  363. I have never ONCE called ANY of these people.
  364. 3:44
  365. GethN7
  366. Benism please do not bring that up, it is offtopic. You too Reson
  367. 3:44
  368. Benisjihad
  369. Oh come now
  370. 3:44
  371. ArbiterSweets
  372. Moleman, are you or are you not a white supremacist?
  373. 3:45
  374. Benisjihad
  375. Stop lying
  376. Alright
  377. 3:45
  378. ResonX
  379. These people have been stalking me for years.
  380. 3:45
  381. Benisjihad
  382. Just let it be known that Mr. Navarro has no reservations about lying to make himself look better
  383. 3:45
  384. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  385. Yeah, pls stay on topic
  386. 3:45
  387. Benisjihad
  388. Even in the face of proofs
  389. 3:45
  390. ResonX
  391. Why would they know all this trivial data, much of which is no longer publicly visible, were they not?
  392. 3:45
  393. GethN7
  394. I do not care about that Reson, we are here to discuss the YMMV page
  395. 3:45
  396. ResonX
  397. The YMMV page was created by them.
  398. 3:45
  399. JEWS:resU
  400. > Why would they know all this trivial data, much of which is no longer publicly visible, were they not?
  401. 3:45
  402. GethN7
  403. I repeat Reson, I. DO. NOT. CARE.
  404. 3:45
  405. ArbiterSweets
  406. That's irrelevant reson, the big question is, are you a white supremacist?
  407. 3:45
  408. JEWS:resU
  409. this is sort of why i was invited
  410. 3:45
  411. ArbiterSweets
  412. this has relevancy to the ymmv page
  413. 3:45
  414. ResonX
  415. Are you saying you tolerate bullying, Geth?
  416. 3:45
  417. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  418. There is nothing wrong with reader input resonx
  419. 3:46
  420. ArbiterSweets
  421. no Geth tolerates the truth
  422. 3:46
  423. ResonX
  424. What they are now saying is entirely personal, with nothing to do with my work.
  425. 3:46
  426. JEWS:resU
  427. i was told that someone here was looking for a source related to this stuff
  428. 3:46
  429. Benisjihad
  430. Oh hey jevvs
  431. 3:46
  432. ResonX
  433. They are resorting to labels and names here.
  434. 3:46
  435. ArbiterSweets
  436. yes it it does have to do with your work. Your work has certain racial connotations
  437. 3:46
  438. Benisjihad
  439. Mostly anti-semetic
  440. 3:46
  441. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  442. https://www.stockroom.com/dave-navarro-the-strap.html
  443. 3:47
  444. Benisjihad
  445. Oh my
  446. 3:47
  447. ResonX
  448. Why would you have such a comprehensive history of such "connotations" if you have not been monitoring my activity?
  449. 3:47
  450. Benisjihad
  451. How lewd
  452. 3:47
  453. JEWS:resU
  454. i wrote extensively about anti-semitism in the nava-verse on deviantart, and got into a big fight with moleman9000 over it
  455. 3:47
  456. Benisjihad
  457. Are you implying that keeping tabs on a stalker with a history of assaults and harassment is a bad thing?
  458. 3:47
  459. ArbiterSweets
  460. that's because your work is publically available online
  461. 3:47
  462. JEWS:resU
  463. it drew a lot of attention back when it happened
  464. 3:47
  465. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  466. Let's keep the YMMV open
  467. 3:47
  468. ResonX
  469. "Lewd" is a term that has repeatedly been used by these bullies historically.
  470. 3:47
  471. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  472. ANyone object?
  473. 3:47
  474. Benisjihad
  475. Gabe
  476. 3:47
  477. JEWS:resU
  478. i think someone tried to cite that here
  479. 3:47
  480. Benisjihad
  481. That's bondage gear
  482. 3:47
  483. GethN7
  484. Reson, if it can be found publicly, it's not stalking
  485. 3:47
  486. ResonX
  487. Also, are you admitting to being the "Jevvs" from DeviantArt?
  488. 3:47
  489. Benisjihad
  490. Lewd doesn't even begin to describe it
  491. 3:48
  492. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  493. Nothing is wrong with the word lewd resonx
  494. 3:48
  495. Benisjihad
  496. How about "Kinky?"
  497. 3:48
  498. ResonX
  499. Your use of it here suggests your identities.
  500. 3:48
  501. JEWS:resU
  502. yes, resonx, i'm jevvs from deviantart
  503. 3:48
  504. ResonX
  505. Why are you here then?
  506. 3:48
  507. Benisjihad
  508. We admit to who we are
  509. 3:48
  510. ArbiterSweets
  511. Lewd just means hot sexual stuff on the internet
  512. 3:48
  513. Benisjihad
  514. Just to suffer?
  515. 3:48
  516. ResonX
  517. At the same time as known bullies who you have consistently claimed to have no connection with?
  518. 3:48
  519. Benisjihad
  520. If you hate the word lewd, then call up your brother and ask what word we should describe it
  521. 3:48
  522. ResonX
  523. And having no history of prior activity on this site?
  524. 3:48
  525. Benisjihad
  526. Provide claims
  527. 3:48
  528. GethN7
  529. Reson, what people do offsite is their business. That includes you, except where it has a bearing to work page we are discussing and the work itself
  530. 3:48
  531. Benisjihad
  532. I have a history
  533. I even run my own wikis
  534. 3:48
  535. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  536. lewd has nothing to do with the conversation at hand resonx
  537. 3:48
  538. JEWS:resU
  539. resonx
  540. 3:49
  541. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  542. Why do you care
  543. 3:49
  544. JEWS:resU
  545. you realize that was years ago, right
  546. 3:49
  547. GethN7
  548. Again, let us all remain on topic
  549. 3:49
  550. Benisjihad
  551. Sure
  552. 3:49
  553. ResonX
  554. You say that you make the rules here, and I have to follow them.
  555. 3:49
  556. ArbiterSweets
  557. Moleman you claim everyone is a troll yet you keep deleting the page
  558. or wiping it
  559. 3:49
  560. Benisjihad
  561. Geth is the law in these parts
  562. 3:49
  563. JEWS:resU
  564. what is the topic, gethn7?
  565. 3:49
  566. ArbiterSweets
  567. that is troll behavior
  568. 3:49
  569. ResonX
  570. What makes them allowed to repeatedly, ban-evadingly vandalize MY wikis then?
  571. Which they have.
  572. 3:49
  573. JEWS:resU
  574. i've never vandalized your wikis
  575. 3:49
  576. GethN7
  577. The Nava Verse YMMV page and related artlces
  578. 3:49
  579. ResonX
  580. Dozens of times over.
  581. 3:49
  582. ArbiterSweets
  583. JEWS, Moleman is trying to remove a page that references his racial connotations in his work
  584. 3:49
  585. JEWS:resU
  586. i see
  587. 3:50
  588. ArbiterSweets
  589. along with citations of Bile Fascination
  590. 3:50
  591. ResonX
  592. YOU put that page there.
  593. 3:50
  594. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  595. He wants to remove reader input cause he disagrees with their opinion
  596. 3:50
  597. ArbiterSweets
  598. Bile Fascination applies to your work
  599. 3:50
  600. JEWS:resU
  601. let me dig up some of the conversations i had with resonx about anti-semitism in the nava-verse
  602. 3:50
  603. GethN7
  604. And Reson, let me make this crystal clear. Sockpuppets will NOT be tolerated
  605. 3:50
  606. ResonX
  607. They use sockpuppets.
  608. These very accounts they are using right now, are sockpuppets.
  609. 3:50
  610. Benisjihad
  611. I have never ban evaded here
  612. 3:50
  613. ArbiterSweets
  614. both 8chan /cow/ and the kiwifarms are fanbases that follow your work due to the negative qualities of it rather than the positive qualities, thus your work can have Bile Fascination applied to it
  615. 3:50
  616. Benisjihad
  617. We're talking about this wiki
  618. 3:50
  619. ResonX
  620. Many of them have been globally blocked across Wikia.
  621. 3:50
  622. Benisjihad
  623. You ban evaded numerous times too
  624. For much more heinous acts
  625. 3:51
  626. ResonX
  627. Like what?
  628. 3:51
  629. Benisjihad
  630. Oh let me see
  631. Death threats
  632. Sexual comments about other users
  633. 3:51
  634. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  635. So ResonX, are only the people you approve allowed to open a YMMV?
  636. 3:51
  637. Benisjihad
  638. These are on other sites mind you
  639. 3:51
  640. ResonX
  641. "Sexual comments about other users"?
  642. 3:51
  643. Benisjihad
  644. Yes
  645. 3:51
  646. ResonX
  647. Where and when?
  648. 3:51
  649. Benisjihad
  650. Don't pretend that you never did them
  651. 3:51
  652. GethN7
  653. They have caused me no outstanding issues and what little any of them have have been addressed reasonably to my satisfaction
  654. 3:51
  655. JEWS:resU
  656. i saved a lot of my conversations with moleman because i reported him to the ADL and several other organizations
  657. 3:51
  658. ArbiterSweets
  659. I heard rumors of your conduct towards Judge Candy's daughter supposedly
  660. 3:51
  661. Benisjihad
  662. Many, many, times in many places
  663. 3:52
  664. ResonX
  665. They are MANIPULATING you, Geth.
  666. 3:52
  667. Benisjihad
  668. You are MANIPULATING the truth
  669. 3:52
  670. ArbiterSweets
  671. are you implying Geth is some sort of puppet?
  672. that's rather rude
  673. 3:52
  674. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  675. Okay, let's cool down ResonX
  676. 3:52
  677. GethN7
  678. So until these parties do cause me issues, they are guests in my home
  679. 3:52
  680. ArbiterSweets
  681. and Geth is a gracious host
  682. 3:52
  683. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  684. I think you are having an overload
  685. 3:52
  686. ResonX
  687. Candy has no daughter, that is a story she made up to make me look bad, and has used against me as part of subversive bullying many times before.
  688. 3:52
  689. Benisjihad
  690. Oh really?
  691. Provide the proof
  692. 3:52
  693. GethN7
  694. Again Reson, you are on thin ice, drop the offsite crap
  695. 3:52
  696. ResonX
  697. The burden of proof is on you.
  698. 3:52
  699. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  700. Yeah, it has nothing to do with the topic
  701. 3:52
  702. ResonX
  703. You are the ones making accusations.
  704. 3:53
  705. Benisjihad
  706. You made the claim
  707. 3:53
  708. ArbiterSweets
  709. Also once again
  710. 3:53
  711. ResonX
  712. What claim?
  713. 3:53
  714. ArbiterSweets
  715. are
  716. you
  717. a white
  718. 3:53
  719. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  720. Welp
  721. 3:53
  722. Benisjihad
  723. "Candy has no daughter, that is a story she made up to make me look bad, and has used against me as part of subversive bullying many times before. 3:52 Benisjihad Oh really? "
  724. 3:53
  725. ArbiterSweets
  726. supremacist
  727. 3:53
  728. Benisjihad
  729. ^That one
  730. 3:53
  731. ResonX
  732. You claimed I harassed such a daughter first.
  733. 3:53
  734. Benisjihad
  735. Did I now
  736. 3:53
  737. GethN7
  738. On topic, people
  739. 3:53
  740. ResonX
  741. Yes, you did.
  742. 3:53
  743. Benisjihad
  744. Where are the proofs?
  745. 3:53
  746. ArbiterSweets
  747. If the answer is yes, then you must admit that you do infact have your own racial biases inside of the nava-verse
  748. 3:53
  749. GethN7
  750. I do not care for this crap at all
  751. 3:53
  752. ResonX
  753. Seriously Geth.
  754. Don't.
  755. Feed.
  756. The.
  757. Trolls.
  758. 3:53
  759. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  760. Seriously ResonX
  761. 3:53
  762. Benisjihad
  763. Don't lie please
  764. 3:53
  765. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  766. BE
  767. Open
  768. To
  769. Diuscussion
  770. 3:54
  771. GethN7
  772. Reson, please quit derailing the conversation
  773. 3:54
  774. ResonX
  775. What is there to discuss?
  776. 3:54
  777. Benisjihad
  778. The YMMV page
  779. 3:54
  780. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  781. The YMMV page
  782. 3:54
  783. ArbiterSweets
  784. that YMMV page is there to stay
  785. 3:54
  786. ResonX
  787. The YMMV page in this case was created by YOU, ADMITTED STALKERS.
  788. 3:54
  789. JEWS:resU
  790. i apologize in advance for the wait, this is pretty old news
  791. 3:54
  792. GethN7
  793. So, what items on the YMMV page does everyone believe need to added or removed?
  794. 3:54
  795. Benisjihad
  796. To recap, we found evidence to back up your racism
  797. And that's why those details were kept
  798. 3:54
  799. JEWS:resU
  800. but that's probably better for this kind of thing
  801. 3:54
  802. ArbiterSweets
  803. is there a trope for an author that tries to censor criticism?
  804. 3:54
  805. ResonX
  806. Who have been EXPLICITLY blocked from ALL interaction with me and my work.
  807. 3:54
  808. Benisjihad
  809. You deleted them after being ordered to not touch the page
  810. By whom? You?
  811. You have no power here
  812. 3:54
  813. ArbiterSweets
  814. this is almost 1984 levels of censorship
  815. 3:55
  816. Benisjihad
  817. That decision lies with geth
  818. Not you
  819. 3:55
  820. ResonX
  821. All three of the items on the page currently are references to your own trolling.
  822. 3:55
  823. JEWS:resU
  824. resonx, if my memory serves me right, you were banned from deviantart because you asked their staff to kill me or something
  825. 3:55
  826. ArbiterSweets
  827. how is Bile Fascination trolling?
  828. 3:55
  829. Benisjihad
  830. Now you're just being obtuse
  831. 3:55
  832. JEWS:resU
  833. i was banned for an unrelated offense
  834. 3:55
  835. GethN7
  836. I was able to verify those items, they remain, Reson.
  837. 3:55
  838. ResonX
  839. The items were written by cyberbullies.
  840. They are automatically invalid.
  841. ArbiterSweets
  842. are you saying
  843. 3:55
  844. Benisjihad
  845. Also, I can't help but take notice that you've been dodging the racism and white supremacy questions
  846. 3:55
  847. GethN7
  848. I do not care what they came from, they concern the work in question and could vet the claims, so they stay
  849. 3:55
  850. ArbiterSweets
  851. that our opinion is not allowed here?
  852. 3:56
  853. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  854. that's not how it works resonx
  855. 3:56
  856. Benisjihad
  857. Who makes them invalid?
  858. 3:56
  859. ResonX
  860. Correct, these trolls are banned from all interactions with me.
  861. 3:56
  862. ArbiterSweets
  863. Geth decides what is and what isn't irrelevant
  864. 3:56
  865. Benisjihad
  866. There is no top authority on what is valid and isn't
  867. By you
  868. On your wiki
  869. Your rules do not apply elsewhere
  870. 3:56
  871. ResonX
  872. On my wiki, I am the top authority.
  873. 3:56
  874. ArbiterSweets
  875. This is not your wiki
  876. 3:56
  877. GethN7
  878. Reson, I consider people who are rude and run roughshod over others cyberbullies. That excludes everyone but you
  879. 3:56
  880. Benisjihad
  881. It's like me walking into your job and saying that you're banned because of death threats you made in my house
  882. This is not your wiki
  883. This is not the navaverse
  884. You are aware of that, right?
  885. 3:57
  886. ArbiterSweets
  887. Yeah reson, you're the real bully here
  888. You are not THE LAW
  889. 3:57
  890. GethN7
  891. And Arbiter is right, it's my wiki, and I will not bend over and remove things simply to please you Reson, especially if they are within the rules
  892. 3:57
  893. ResonX
  894. These people have repeatedly vandalized MY wiki, the Nava-Verse.
  895. 3:57
  896. Benisjihad
  897. Cool
  898. 3:57
  899. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  900. It's judgment time
  901. 3:57
  902. Benisjihad
  903. We're not on YOUR wiki
  904. 3:57
  905. GethN7
  906. I do not care about what happens on your wiki, Reson
  907. 3:57
  908. ResonX
  909. Yes you have been, many times.
  910. 3:57
  911. Benisjihad
  912. You also vandalized our wikis
  913. 3:57
  914. ResonX
  915. Never.
  916. 3:57
  917. Benisjihad
  918. Keyword: Have
  919. Oh really now?
  920. 3:58
  921. ResonX
  922. Are you denying it?
  923. 3:58
  924. Benisjihad
  925. Yes
  926. 3:58
  927. GethN7
  928. That is immaterial to the conversation, so can we all srop this please?
  929. 3:58
  930. ArbiterSweets
  931. You act like just because a YMMV page is going to added that the cyberbullies are going to have a party, hire a bunch of hookers, smoke weed, and play videogames while laughing at your misfortune.
  932. 3:58
  933. Benisjihad
  934. You certainly vandalized our wikis
  935. Also encyclopedia dramatica
  936. 3:58
  937. GethN7
  938. Any other YMMV items to discuss?
  939. 3:58
  940. ResonX
  941. You are saying you have never vandalized my wikis?
  942. 3:58
  943. Benisjihad
  944. And wikipedia itself
  945. No
  946. 3:58
  947. ArbiterSweets
  948. like i asked Geth
  949. 3:58
  950. Benisjihad
  951. I'm saying that you have vandalized ours
  952. which you deny
  953. 3:58
  954. GethN7
  955. Please drop the offsite drama
  956. 3:58
  957. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  958. I just think it should stay intact and open
  959. 3:58
  960. ArbiterSweets
  961. is there a trope for authors who try to censor criticism?
  962. 3:58
  963. Benisjihad
  964. "Orwellian"
  965. 3:58
  966. GethN7
  967. Small Name Big Ego covers it somewhat
  968. 3:58
  969. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  970. ResonX should stay out of it
  971. 3:58
  972. ArbiterSweets
  973. what about Internet Backlash?
  974. 3:58
  975. Benisjihad
  976. True
  977. 3:58
  978. ArbiterSweets
  979. I think Small Name Big Ego fits
  980. in light of this discussion
  981. that and Internet Backlash
  982. 3:59
  983. GethN7
  984. Dear Negative Reader and Creator Backlash have some bearing as well
  985. 3:59
  986. ArbiterSweets
  987. is Streisand Effect a trope?
  988. 3:59
  989. Benisjihad
  990. Yes
  991. ^I think
  992. ResonX has left the chat.
  993. 4:00
  994. ArbiterSweets
  995. wow
  996. that was childish
  997. 4:00
  998. BringOutTheLeatherMan
  999. ResonX comes off as a facist
  1000. 4:00
  1001. GethN7
  1002. As I said before, feel free to save copies of this conversation, I have nothing to hide, nor should anyone else considering the topic
  1003. 4:01
  1004. JEWS:resU
  1005. i think this is the thing i was asked to share
  1006. http://pastebin.com/0qCcKEDj
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