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  1. [1:13:27 PM] Zaggitz: after killing bsb, you will gain the first chalice which is a BASE chalice
  2. [1:13:34 PM] Solomon Joker Extreme: Yes
  3. [1:13:42 PM] Zaggitz: base chalices are NOT rng, they are ste dungeons with set bosses and set drops
  4. [1:13:56 PM] Solomon Joker Extreme: Oh interesting
  5. [1:13:57 PM] Zaggitz: beating these dungeons will unlock the ROOT version of the chalice
  6. [1:14:00 PM] Zaggitz: which is the rng version
  7. [1:14:07 PM] Zaggitz: and also the next tier of base chalice
  8. [1:14:07 PM] Solomon Joker Extreme: I see
  9. [1:14:16 PM] Zaggitz: there are five tier of base chalices
  10. [1:14:26 PM] Zaggitz: for the pthumera chalice anyway
  11. [1:14:35 PM] Solomon Joker Extreme: And you get those armorsets from higher tier bases
  12. [1:14:50 PM] Zaggitz: you get the armosets from killing deeper bosses
  13. [1:14:55 PM] Zaggitz: and they show up in the insight store
  14. [1:15:01 PM] Solomon Joker Extreme: Ahhh
  15. [1:15:29 PM] Zaggitz: i beat the first two tiers of pthumera, in the second tier of pthumera i unlocked an entirely new branch of chalice called hintertomb
  16. [1:15:37 PM] Zaggitz: this is the only branch you find in the chalice dungeons
  17. [1:15:47 PM] Zaggitz: the final two branches are found by doing optional world bosses
  18. [1:16:06 PM] Zaggitz: chalice dungeons also dont scale with ng+
  19. [1:16:19 PM] Zaggitz: because apparently tier 4 and 5 of pthumera is the fucking hardest shit ever
  20. [1:16:50 PM] Zaggitz: and the dude who worked on the guide who posted the video explaining the chalice stuff estimated it that they might be impossible if they scale
  21. [1:17:13 PM] Zaggitz: anyway at the veyr bottom of the fifth tier of pthumera chalices is the games superboss
  22. [1:17:20 PM] Solomon Joker Extreme: Shiiit
  23. [1:17:24 PM] Zaggitz: this is the endgoal of chalice dungeons
  24. [1:18:04 PM] Zaggitz: also doing some quick math based on the amount of tiers for each chalice branch
  25. [1:18:25 PM] Zaggitz: there are 30 unique non story bosses in that fucking aspect of the game
  26. [1:18:35 PM] Solomon Joker Extreme: Daaaamn
  27. [1:18:41 PM] Zaggitz: 15 in pthumera, 6 in hintertomb, 6 in ailing loran, and 3 in great isz
  28. [1:19:02 PM] Zaggitz: hintertomb and loran only have two tiers, isz has one
  29. [1:19:17 PM] Zaggitz: havent found the isz chalice yet but the last boss i fought dropped the loran one
  30. [1:19:34 PM] Zaggitz: i think these new branches have completely different dungeon templates and appearances
  31. [1:19:37 PM] Zaggitz: will confir after work
  32. [1:20:29 PM] Zaggitz: oh and
  33. [1:21:23 PM] Zaggitz: the rng versions of the tiers is where you can like, add challenges to a level to try and get unique weapon drops
  34. [1:21:48 PM] Zaggitz: every weapon in the game has actually 2 counter parts with the prefix "Lost" and "uncanny" which can only be found in the rng dungeons
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