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  1. Feb 12 21:27:41 <ete>   is posting logs from here to the social group whenever I remember a good idea?
  2. Feb 12 21:27:41 <supermarth64>  http://foodporndaily.com/pictures/sweet-fluffy-pancakes-and-crisp-bacon/
  3. Feb 12 21:27:53 <Eo>    yes
  4. Feb 12 21:27:54 <ete>   or pointless
  5. Feb 12 21:27:55 <supermarth64>  r_s, click on that
  6. Feb 12 21:27:57 <Eo>    do it
  7. Feb 12 21:28:00 <whistle>       pointless
  8. Feb 12 21:28:04 <whistle>       why not just make threads in C&C main
  9. Feb 12 21:28:06 <ete>   well
  10. Feb 12 21:28:08 <Eo>    but post a picture of jimmy johns along with it
  11. Feb 12 21:28:18 <Eo>    because some of it is informal discussion
  12. Feb 12 21:28:23 <whistle>       so what
  13. Feb 12 21:28:27 <ete>   other people can add pics
  14. Feb 12 21:28:28 <Eo>    that is handy to reference but not necessarily of import
  15. Feb 12 21:28:29 <whistle>       i know a lot of people arent in the social group
  16. Feb 12 21:28:38 <whistle>       lots proly dont even know it exists
  17. Feb 12 21:28:41 *       supermarth64 slaps Reflect_Suicune around a bit with a large trout
  18. Feb 12 21:28:43 <supermarth64>  CLICK
  19. Feb 12 21:28:48 <ete>   I'm not posting logs in C&C main
  20. Feb 12 21:28:58 <Reflect_Suicune>       no stop don't distract me more than I'm distracting myself already
  21. Feb 12 21:29:00 <Reflect_Suicune>       -_-
  22. Feb 12 21:29:00 <Eo>    I'm not talking about major decisions
  23. Feb 12 21:29:07 <supermarth64>  NO IT'S GOOD
  24. Feb 12 21:29:08 <Eo>    I was more of referencing stuff like
  25. Feb 12 21:29:12 <Eo>    "do we capitalize pass"
  26. Feb 12 21:29:18 <whistle>       that is important...
  27. Feb 12 21:29:21 <ete>   especially when we are not remotely approved
  28. Feb 12 21:29:23 <Reflect_Suicune>       "do we put syrup on our pancakes"
  29. Feb 12 21:29:31 <Reflect_Suicune>       "yes, approved"
  30. Feb 12 21:29:34 <Eo>    it goes in the grammar standards thread
  31. Feb 12 21:29:35 <whistle>       who would approve that ete
  32. Feb 12 21:29:36 <ete>   if those were sorted out
  33. Feb 12 21:29:51 <ete>   well, for full approval
  34. Feb 12 21:29:57 <ete>   you need chaos i think
  35. Feb 12 21:30:01 <ete>   but semi approval
  36. Feb 12 21:30:07 <whistle>       what is the difference
  37. Feb 12 21:30:10 <whistle>       you mean the irc channel
  38. Feb 12 21:30:12 <ete>   I'd guess a full C&C mod or SS could
  39. Feb 12 21:30:27 <ete>   without anyone minding
  40. Feb 12 21:30:28 <whistle>       i dont know why you can't post logs from here even if its not approved
  41. Feb 12 21:30:34 <MetaNite>      no nazi talk
  42. Feb 12 21:30:37 <MetaNite>      you racist
  43. Feb 12 21:30:40 <ete>   i could
  44. Feb 12 21:30:41 <Colonel_M>     Nazi-ism
  45. Feb 12 21:30:43 *       Fireburn7186 is now known as Fireburn7286
  46. Feb 12 21:30:45 <ete>   but most of it is not useful
  47. Feb 12 21:30:49 <whistle>       huh
  48. Feb 12 21:30:50 <whistle>       what kind of logs
  49. Feb 12 21:30:56 <ete>   full logs
  50. Feb 12 21:30:58 <ete>   from here
  51. Feb 12 21:31:02 <whistle>       i mean
  52. Feb 12 21:31:03 <ete>   just copy the whole lot
  53. Feb 12 21:31:03 <Eo>    <MetaNite>      no nazi talk
  54. Feb 12 21:31:06 <Eo>    <MetaNite>      you racist
  55. Feb 12 21:31:08 <whistle>       what would need to be posted but wouldn't be "useful"
  56. Feb 12 21:31:17 <ete>   If I extracted a few bits
  57. Feb 12 21:31:20 <ete>   then, maybe
  58. Feb 12 21:31:22 <ete>   yea
  59. Feb 12 21:31:29 <Eo>    how about this
  60. Feb 12 21:31:35 <Eo>    ete posts them in the social group
  61. Feb 12 21:31:44 <Eo>    whistle can post the logs in the c/c foruM?
  62. Feb 12 21:31:49 <whistle>       ...
  63. Feb 12 21:31:55 <whistle>       i have nothing in C&C
  64. Feb 12 21:32:01 <whistle>       at least ete is a mod or something
  65. Feb 12 21:32:01 <whistle>       -_-
  66. Feb 12 21:32:03 <whistle>       dumbo
  67. Feb 12 21:32:04 <MetaNite>      um, who is SS?
  68. Feb 12 21:32:05 <ete>   I have only LC mods
  69. Feb 12 21:32:09 <ete>   atm
  70. Feb 12 21:32:12 <Eo>    um why does it matter?
  71. Feb 12 21:32:13 <ete>   SS=Site Staff
  72. Feb 12 21:32:16 <Reflect_Suicune>       What is the benefit of a dual screener that resists Ghost
  73. Feb 12 21:32:18 <Eo>    logs are logs
  74. Feb 12 21:32:20 <whistle>       why would i post them
  75. Feb 12 21:32:30 *       Reflect_Suicune is now known as Silver_Shadow
  76. Feb 12 21:32:31 <Eo>    because it was your idea
  77. Feb 12 21:32:32 <Silver_Shadow> I AM SS
  78. Feb 12 21:32:35 <ete>   I may at some point post extracts
  79. Feb 12 21:32:35 <whistle>       you're dumb
  80. Feb 12 21:32:37 <whistle>       eo
  81. Feb 12 21:32:38 <whistle>       dumb eo
  82. Feb 12 21:32:41 <Colonel_M>     I think of the people in here... mingot is the only one.
  83. Feb 12 21:32:41 <Eo>    to post them in said forum
  84. Feb 12 21:32:44 <Eo>    stupidwhistle
  85. Feb 12 21:32:48 <whistle>       im not even in the social group
  86. Feb 12 21:32:48 <whistle>       lol
  87. Feb 12 21:33:05 <Eo>    that's why you are posting them in the forum
  88. Feb 12 21:33:05 <whistle>       logs aside
  89. Feb 12 21:33:09 *       Fireburn7286 is now known as Fireburn7186
  90. Feb 12 21:33:13 <whistle>       whats the deal with not having any discussion threads in the main forum
  91. Feb 12 21:33:18 <ete>   anyway
  92. Feb 12 21:33:19 <whistle>       like... who is in charge of C&C...
  93. Feb 12 21:33:19 <ete>   i need sleep
  94. Feb 12 21:33:22 <whistle>       night
  95. Feb 12 21:33:28 <MetaNite>      COLONEL_M IS IN CHARGE
  96. Feb 12 21:33:38 <MetaNite>      until I seize power...
  97. Feb 12 21:33:39 <Silver_Shadow> "Along with Forretress, it [Magnezone] is one of only two Pokemon with access to both screens and a resistance to Dark- and Ghost-type attacks."
  98. Feb 12 21:33:41 <ete>   Cm and mingot are the closest to in charge i think
  99. Feb 12 21:33:41 <Silver_Shadow> Why does this matter?
  100. Feb 12 21:33:44 <Colonel_M>     ...Erm...
  101. Feb 12 21:33:49 <supermarth64>  CM controls OU, Eo controls UU, theorymon controls ubers
  102. Feb 12 21:33:55 <MetaNite>      it doeson't SS
  103. Feb 12 21:34:06 <Silver_Shadow> soooooo
  104. Feb 12 21:34:06 <MetaNite>      its just random reasoning to give magnezone a dual screen set
  105. Feb 12 21:34:09 <ete>   and i have LC
  106. Feb 12 21:34:10 <Colonel_M>     I'm just a normal person in the shadows.  =/
  107. Feb 12 21:34:10 <Silver_Shadow> lol
  108. Feb 12 21:34:12 <MetaNite>      instead of using the superior bronzong
  109. Feb 12 21:34:15 <supermarth64>  oh sorry ete
  110. Feb 12 21:34:17 <Eo>    wait
  111. Feb 12 21:34:18 <supermarth64>  forgot about you
  112. Feb 12 21:34:21 <ete>   lol
  113. Feb 12 21:34:23 <Eo>    who is the c&c mod then?
  114. Feb 12 21:34:30 <Eo>    I thought c_m had full mods
  115. Feb 12 21:34:34 <supermarth64>  actually, magnet pull is the only reason i use magnezone as a dual screener
  116. Feb 12 21:34:34 <Eo>    and tmon for that matter
  117. Feb 12 21:34:35 <Colonel_M>     I do have full mods
  118. Feb 12 21:34:37 <supermarth64>  take THAT scizor
  119. Feb 12 21:34:39 <Colonel_M>     So does tmon
  120. Feb 12 21:34:39 <ete>   CM and Tmon are the only active full C&C mods
  121. Feb 12 21:34:44 <Eo>    ok
  122. Feb 12 21:34:49 <Colonel_M>     I'm considered active...?
  123. Feb 12 21:34:56 <ete>   much more
  124. Feb 12 21:34:59 <Eo>    oh c_m's not active is he
  125. Feb 12 21:35:01 <ete>   than havak
  126. Feb 12 21:35:07 <Eo>    let's give it all to tmon
  127. Feb 12 21:35:11 <Silver_Shadow> no
  128. Feb 12 21:35:13 <Colonel_M>     I'm trying, I'm trying.
  129. Feb 12 21:35:14 <whistle>       ok
  130. Feb 12 21:35:18 <supermarth64>  supporting ete for full C&C mods
  131. Feb 12 21:35:18 <supermarth64>  y/n
  132. Feb 12 21:35:20 <Eo>    we can have him kyogre-ize it
  133. Feb 12 21:35:21 <Silver_Shadow> y
  134. Feb 12 21:35:21 <whistle>       what is going on for C&C
  135. Feb 12 21:35:23 <whistle>       like
  136. Feb 12 21:35:25 <whistle>       WHO DO I TALK TO
  137. Feb 12 21:35:26 <whistle>       -,-
  138. Feb 12 21:35:34 <Silver_Shadow> talk to me
  139. Feb 12 21:35:36 *       Silver_Shadow is now known as table
  140. Feb 12 21:35:36 <table> im table
  141. Feb 12 21:35:46 <whistle>       who makes decisions for C&C...
  142. Feb 12 21:35:54 <whistle>       am i the only one who feels like it is a headless chicken
  143. Feb 12 21:35:58 <supermarth64>  ya
  144. Feb 12 21:35:58 <whistle>       well
  145. Feb 12 21:36:02 <Eo>    no
  146. Feb 12 21:36:04 <whistle>       not a headless chicken in the sense that nothings going on
  147. Feb 12 21:36:06 <supermarth64>  (chickens are good btw)
  148. Feb 12 21:36:09 <whistle>       maybe more like the mafia
  149. Feb 12 21:36:12 <whistle>       you don't know whos in charge
  150. Feb 12 21:36:13 <ete>   each section has someone leading it
  151. Feb 12 21:36:15 *       Heysup_afk has quit (Ping timeout)
  152. Feb 12 21:36:19 <ete>   other than articles
  153. Feb 12 21:36:19 <whistle>       so you're always confused
  154. Feb 12 21:36:25 <ete>   damn articles needs a mod
  155. Feb 12 21:36:28 <Eo>    yeah I'm always confused
  156. Feb 12 21:36:34 <ete>   :(
  157. Feb 12 21:36:41 <Colonel_M>     I really should look more into the other places.
  158. Feb 12 21:36:49 <ete>   Where do you look?
  159. Feb 12 21:36:54 <Colonel_M>     I don't look into Articles much because they're time consuming.
  160. Feb 12 21:37:03 <ete>   I want to sort out articles
  161. Feb 12 21:37:05 <Colonel_M>     I look within my regions: Uber, OU, UU, Concise.
  162. Feb 12 21:37:15 <Colonel_M>     I really should look everywhere.
  163. Feb 12 21:37:25 <ete>   I cover main and LC and articles, a little but want to do more.
  164. Feb 12 21:37:44 <ete>   and do random nitpicks in the others
  165. Feb 12 21:38:03 <Colonel_M>     We don't really have a head honcho in C&C from what I know.
  166. Feb 12 21:38:10 <ete>   C&C main and articles need attention and orginization
  167. Feb 12 21:38:13 <whistle>       ok can you just like
  168. Feb 12 21:38:13 *       Fireburn7186 is now known as Fireburn0086
  169. Feb 12 21:38:15 <Colonel_M>     Before it was usually aldaron.
  170. Feb 12 21:38:16 <whistle>       make ete the head honcho
  171. Feb 12 21:38:17 <whistle>       or someone
  172. Feb 12 21:38:20 <whistle>       or make it aldaron
  173. Feb 12 21:38:22 <whistle>       he's back isnt he
  174. Feb 12 21:38:39 <Colonel_M>     I don't know if he wants to be back in the business.  If he wants to, it's fine by me.
  175. Feb 12 21:38:41 <ete>   back but not in C&C much
  176. Feb 12 21:38:46 <supermarth64>  aldaron's just... there
  177. Feb 12 21:38:55 <whistle>       ugh
  178. Feb 12 21:38:57 <ete>   CM, you are kinda leading C&C currently
  179. Feb 12 21:39:04 <Colonel_M>     So it seems.
  180. Feb 12 21:39:12 <whistle>       okay CM then
  181. Feb 12 21:39:13 *       MetaNite too weak
  182. Feb 12 21:39:17 <ete>   mingot is handleing the SS side
  183. Feb 12 21:39:19 <Colonel_M>     A lot of times I get asked the questions, but usually it's because of my random ideas.
  184. Feb 12 21:39:37 <whistle>       why do discussions happen in social groups and in irc but not the main C&C forum
  185. Feb 12 21:39:45 <whistle>       the main problem i see
  186. Feb 12 21:39:49 <table> because the forum has rules
  187. Feb 12 21:39:51 <whistle>       is that not everyone is aware of discussions that happen
  188. Feb 12 21:39:57 <whistle>       which contributes to two problems
  189. Feb 12 21:40:01 <whistle>       1) people feel excluded
  190. Feb 12 21:40:03 <whistle>       see: jumpluff
  191. Feb 12 21:40:03 <Colonel_M>     Confusion
  192. Feb 12 21:40:07 <whistle>       2) people are confused
  193. Feb 12 21:40:08 *       Fireburn0086 is now known as Fireburn0186\
  194. Feb 12 21:40:08 <whistle>       see: me
  195. Feb 12 21:40:15 *       Fireburn0186\ is now known as Fireburn0186
  196. Feb 12 21:40:17 <whistle>       so the forum has rules...
  197. Feb 12 21:40:20 <whistle>       like you can't be retarded
  198. Feb 12 21:40:20 <ete>   C&C is disorginized currently, there is a lot to do
  199. Feb 12 21:40:20 <Colonel_M>     Yes, I also feel that we should be more open with our policy discussion to be honest.
  200. Feb 12 21:40:22 <whistle>       and post porn
  201. Feb 12 21:40:26 <ete>   and very few active mods
  202. Feb 12 21:40:37 <Colonel_M>     (Hey why can't I post porn man)
  203. Feb 12 21:40:48 <whistle>       little kids cms
  204. Feb 12 21:40:50 <whistle>       cm*
  205. Feb 12 21:40:50 <whistle>       sry
  206. Feb 12 21:40:57 <whistle>       so if i like
  207. Feb 12 21:40:58 <whistle>       whatever
  208. Feb 12 21:41:07 <whistle>       does anyone have objections to me posting a thread in C&C main
  209. Feb 12 21:41:10 <whistle>       or just articles, rather
  210. Feb 12 21:41:17 <whistle>       just being like sup, can we post discussion here
  211. Feb 12 21:41:24 <ete>   articles should go in articles
  212. Feb 12 21:41:40 <Colonel_M>     I believe that we should be more open with our policy, yes.
  213. Feb 12 21:41:45 <whistle>       i meant articles and analyses
  214. Feb 12 21:41:47 <ete>   not other things
  215. Feb 12 21:41:50 <whistle>       http://www.smogon.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=101
  216. Feb 12 21:41:51 <whistle>       that forum
  217. Feb 12 21:41:58 <ete>   C&C main makes more sense
  218. Feb 12 21:42:23 <whistle>       okay
  219. Feb 12 21:42:26 <ete>   A&A is kinda out of the way
  220. Feb 12 21:42:29 <Eo>    whistle I am trying to include you by making you post logs :(
  221. Feb 12 21:42:29 <whistle>       C&C main it is
  222. Feb 12 21:42:31 *       goldenknight has quit (Ping timeout)
  223. Feb 12 21:42:37 <whistle>       ?_? eo lol
  224. Feb 12 21:42:40 <Colonel_M>     Yes, post in there.
  225. Feb 12 21:43:01 <ete>   CM/someone, save logs of interesting discussions please
  226. Feb 12 21:44:03 <Colonel_M>     I don't think I have the material to save logs.
  227. Feb 12 21:44:03 <ete>   cos i really have to sleep
  228. Feb 12 21:44:07 <whistle>       i'll save logs lol
  229. Feb 12 21:44:11 <whistle>       well
  230. Feb 12 21:44:11 <ete>   material?
  231. Feb 12 21:44:13 <whistle>       im not on that much
  232. Feb 12 21:44:15 <whistle>       you just copy paste
  233. Feb 12 21:44:17 <whistle>       pastebin.com
  234. Feb 12 21:44:26 <ete>   ^
  235. Feb 12 21:44:37 *       Fireburn0186 is now known as Fireburn0286
  236. Feb 12 21:44:44 <Colonel_M>     Alright, I shall try.
  237. Feb 12 21:44:52 <ete>   cool
  238. Feb 12 21:44:56 <Colonel_M>     It's a pity we can't have Porygon do it.
  239. Feb 12 21:45:00 <ete>   night C&Cers
  240. Feb 12 21:45:05 <whistle>       you prolly could
  241. Feb 12 21:45:06 <whistle>       night ete
  242. Feb 12 21:45:14 *       ete has quit (Quit: night people)
  243. Feb 12 21:45:15 <whistle>       but you'd have to know when the discussion would start
  244. Feb 12 21:45:18 <whistle>       before it happens
  245. Feb 12 21:45:20 <whistle>       which is rare
  246. Feb 12 21:46:07 <Colonel_M>     Alright, make sure that when something "needs" to be logged that it is told by me.
  247. Feb 12 21:46:24 <supermarth64>  does a slapping war count as good logs?
  248. Feb 12 21:46:25 <Colonel_M>     I wish I could make this channel official myself, but I think the problem would be "why not #stark"
  249. Feb 12 21:46:27 *       whistle slaps supermarth64 around a bit with a large trout
  250. Feb 12 21:46:28 <whistle>       no
  251. Feb 12 21:46:35 <whistle>       i don't think it needs to be official
  252. Feb 12 21:46:37 *       Colonel_M slaps supermarth64 around a bit with a large trout
  253. Feb 12 21:46:42 <whistle>       but its useful nonetheless
  254. Feb 12 21:46:46 <Eo>    but then we're excluding people aaaaaaah
  255. Feb 12 21:46:46 <Colonel_M>     Yes.
  256. Feb 12 21:46:49 <whistle>       its not a conflict of interest with stark
  257. Feb 12 21:46:54 <whistle>       defiitey not
  258. Feb 12 21:46:56 <Colonel_M>     Then we should invite those that deal with C&C.
  259. Feb 12 21:47:04 <Colonel_M>     Anyone in general, that is.
  260. Feb 12 21:47:11 <whistle>       the probelm is theres too many people
  261. Feb 12 21:47:12 <whistle>       h/o
  262. Feb 12 21:47:19 <whistle>       busy dealing with my first clock stopper...
  263. Feb 12 21:47:34 *       ChanServ gives channel operator status to Eo
  264. Feb 12 21:47:38 <Colonel_M>     Well, you mentioned others like Jumpluff.
  265. Feb 12 21:47:58 <Colonel_M>     I mean we should bring those that are pre-cont / grammar / Contributors for sure.
  266. Feb 12 21:49:22 <Fireburn0286>  what about me
  267. Feb 12 21:49:33 <Colonel_M>     Well of course we can allow people that contribute to C&C as well.
  268. Feb 12 21:49:43 <Fireburn0286>  ?????????????
  269. Feb 12 21:49:49 <diinbong>      what are we talking about ?? :)
  270. Feb 12 21:49:58 <whistle>       the point is i don't think its possible to ever have "enough" people here
  271. Feb 12 21:50:01 <MetaNite>      congrats diinbong
  272. Feb 12 21:50:07 <whistle>       and if there are important decisiosn to be made
  273. Feb 12 21:50:09 <MetaNite>      and I second the motion
  274. Feb 12 21:50:12 <whistle>       everyone who is affected by it should be involved
  275. Feb 12 21:50:12 <Colonel_M>     Yeah, I see what you mean whistle.
  276. Feb 12 21:50:16 <MetaNite>      to tell me and diinbong what you are talking about
  277. Feb 12 21:50:16 <whistle>       not just people who happen to use irc
  278. Feb 12 21:50:24 <whistle>       which is why i think the forums are the best place for discussion
  279. Feb 12 21:50:27 <Colonel_M>     Hence why saving logs should be important.
  280. Feb 12 21:50:30 <whistle>       like we can do how #is does it
  281. Feb 12 21:50:31 <whistle>       yeah
  282. Feb 12 21:50:36 <whistle>       save logs for discussions that happen on irc
  283. Feb 12 21:50:40 <Colonel_M>     Yeah.
  284. Feb 12 21:50:42 <whistle>       but have the real decisions be made in the forums
  285. Feb 12 21:50:46 <whistle>       like the final decisions
  286. Feb 12 21:50:52 <Colonel_M>     Mmhmm
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