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Hi all,

 

With a heavy heart I must inform you that Linux Learner has been banned from the mailing list.

 

This is the first time that I can remember this happening on the list but we can no longer allow one person to continue to harass the list, its members or the admin team.

 

In the interest of transparency, we have enabled moderator confirmation on new subscriptions to the mailing list.  This is a short term thing to just make sure LinuxLeaner does not re-subscribe and under a different address in an attempt to post to the list.  We hope that he accepts our decision and moves on.

 

In dealing with LinuxLearner the admin team have also learnt a lot, from now on we will not use moderation in the long term, in fact we would rather never moderate anyone again!

From now on the plan is simple....

 

1)  The list can moderate itself on a day to day basis, this does not mean that you flame others, but perhaps don't bite the low hanging fruit

2)  Admins step in with a polite message

3)  Admins step in with firm message if the polite is ignored

4)  Use moderation to prevent a thread from continuing to flame the list, either targeted at a user or subject.

5)  Ban

 

We would like to never have to go above step 3, but this is up to everyone on the list.

 

Now for the reason LinuxLearner has been banned.

 

The following was received by the Surrey admin team today and is shown in full.  This is not the first time the admins have been attacked, lies were sent to the Hants list not more than a week ago but the admin team decided at the time not to rise to that bait,  and the issue was quickly closed on the Hants list by their list admin.

 

What the Surrey admin team have to do with this matter is unknown to us, and a request directly to LinuxLearner as to the reason for the message (which we now understand) and why we have been involved is still unanswered.

 

We have decided that no amount of moderation, assistance, guidance or support from us has moved us any further forward from where we were nearly a year ago when we first started having problems with LinuxLearner on the list.

 

Now we understand that he is not responsible for all of the flames on the list and has in the past contributed a lot of useful information and discussion, but the fact remains that problems on the list often end up with him in the middle of it, either by choice or coincidence.

 

As you can see from the message below (which may take a few read throughs to get the full understanding) this is an issue directly between LiunxLearner and another member of the list.  Why we have been involved is a matter that LL alone is aware of and the fact that he has taken to legal threats now makes him too dangerous to continue to be involved with for the admins liking.  It also shows that the apology posted to the list a week ago was mere lip service.

 

If LinuxLeaner would like to come and explain his actions in person to the BaB on saturday we would be glad to hear from him and discuss this as I think the entire admin team will be there and available, anyone else if of course welcome to come talk to us.

 

This is an open matter and comments on the list will not be closed, but please try and keep them constructive, comments shot from the hip with no thought serve no purpose or value to anyone and I am sure there are people with wildly differing opinions about this.  I hope you put the same time and effort into composing your reply as we have in writing this.

 

Thanks

 

Surrey Linux Admin Team  

 

 

 

Begin forwarded message:

 

From: Jason Featherstone <passiveprofits@tiscali.co.uk>

Date: 9 February 2010 12:22:03 GMT

To: surrey-owner@mailman.lug.org.uk, John Washington <john@johnwash.co.uk>, abuse@redhat.com, europe@redhat.com, uk@redhat.com, "Jane Morrison" <office@ukuug.org>, webmaster@ukuug.org

Cc: Paul.Wray@nominet.org.uk

Subject: IMPORTANT: Legal Notice; preservation of evidence; civil & criminal proceedings

Reply-To: passiveprofits@tiscali.co.uk

 

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HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL

 

FOR THE ATTENTION OF:

 

1.  Red Hat (worldwide);

2.  UKUUG Ltd;

3.  Surrey Linux User Group Moderators (United Kingdom).

 

cc.  Paul Wray, Nominet

 

RE:  NOTICE OF POSSIBLE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS; RETENTION OF EVIDENCE

 

Email originating or ostensibly originating from the following

identified individual AND any files or logs relating to computer

connections made from any computer under his control at any time, but

owned or in any way controlled by you, wheresoever located or stored,

including but not exclusively in archives or backup tapes, should NOT

under any circumstances, as from receipt of this email, be deleted by

anyone, for any reason or purpose, at any time, until further notice:

 

Fautley Jon

Springside Court, Joseph's Rd. 30

GB-GU1 1BT Guildford

United Kingdom

 

currently represented, by the same, as working for Red Hat, as a Senior

Consultant.

 

YOU ARE HEREBY PUT UPON LEGAL NOTICE the same may be required for one or

more of the following purposes:

 

1.  one or more criminal prosecutions (public and/or private);

2.  a High Court Injunction application (and/or warrant for arrest);

3.  a County Court Injunction (and/or warrant for arrest);

4.  Magistrates' Court proceedings of any type or form, including, inter

   alia, criminal proceeding (including for restraining orders) and/or

   the issuance of an arrest warrant to preserve evidence located in

   said Jon Fautley's residential home, and/or other places;

5.  use by Nominet Ltd, and/or their Dispute Resolution Service ("DRS");

6.  use by adjudicator(s) instructed via said Nominet Ltd's DRS;

7.  use by whosoever is responsible for the .li Country Code Top Level

   Domain (ccTLD) in any proceedings, in any place, at any time,

   arising out of use of any domain with such a suffix for the purposes

   of crime and/or actionable civil wrongs;

8.  civil claims for, inter alia, damages for personal injury and/or

   loss of reputation;

9.  use in any legal appeal from decisions made by organisation(s) or

   persons in 1 - 8 above, in any court(s) or tribunal(s), worldwide;

10. use by the UK security service and/or the Police, and/or law

   enforcement organisations worldwide, for the purposes of

   undertaking threat assessments AND POSSIBLY OTHER PURPOSES.

 

YOU ARE NOW UPON LEGAL NOTICE

 

If said Jon Fautley has access to any resources howsoever owned or

controlled by any of the parties to whom this LEGAL NOTICE is addressed

it should be WITHDRAWN IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT NOTICE, so that said

potential evidence is, for the time being and until further notice,

preserved; AND FURTHER; BE WARNED, By NOT withdrawing any such access

from said Jon Fautley you may be investigated and prosecuted for aiding

and or abetting a criminal to destroy evidence of his crime(s) BY

OMISSION, as from the date and time of receipt of this legal notice.

 

BE FURTHER NOTIFIED

 

The death or personal injury of one OR MORE persons located world-wide

may result from non-compliance with this legal notice, or it's

disclosure outside of the parties who are receiving it, for reasons

which cannot currently be disclosed as they are, or may be, facts which

are legally professionally privileged OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED as a matter

of public policy, or state privilege, or otherwise confidential.

 

I HEREBY GIVE A LEGAL UNDERTAKING to notify all parties receiving this

notice, within a maximum of two working days from the same becoming

clear to me, that the preservation of evidence is no longer required for

any purpose, as above, or otherwise.

 

FOR YOUR INFORMATION

 

Nominet have confirmed they have started formal proceedings relating to

the abusive registration of an org.uk domain on two grounds, registered

to an address which no doubt your Red Hat employee records will show is

also the address at which said Jon Fautley currently resides (unless of

course said Jon Fautley also supplied a false address, as well as

registrant details, at the time of registration, which I doubt, as he

has other domains in his current name, also registered to this address).

 

I copy next the email received. sent by Nominet to my solicitor (also

kindly copied to me upon my request), which I verily believe confirms my

suspicions that the individual who has set out to at the very least

deliberately harass me by way of defamation in contravention of criminal

law*, since at the very latest the 12th September 2009, ON A CONTINUED

AND AT THE TIME OF WRITING, CONTINUING BASIS, is the said Jon Fautley,

and thus a Red Hat employee. Furthermore, a crime was reported to Surrey

Police on 2nd September 2009, for which I did not suspect said Jon

Fautley, but now do.  I will be passing on that suspicion, in due

course, and verily believe at the time of writing, that he may be

arrested and processed by Surrey Police to obtain his DNA, fingerprints,

etc, in furtherance of their continuing investigation into that matter,

as evidence seized at the time of that suspected criminal offence was

collected at sent off to the Serious and Organised Crime Agency**.

 

*  See Protection From Harassment Act, 1997, as amended.

** http://www.soca.gov.uk/

 

=================================================[Nominet Email Starts]

 

Hi DJ McCarthy,

 

Thank you for your fax regarding the domain name virtualchambers.org.uk.

 

I can confirm the postal address for the registrant of the domain name is:

 

30 Springside Court

Josephs Road

Guildford

GU1 1BT

 

I have spoken to Jason Featherstone and confirmed this information with

him verbally this afternoon. I have also started processes based on our

terms and conditions which will make this information public within 5

days. The registrant name is also incorrect as it is not registered to a

legally identifiable entity, which is another requirement, so I have

contacted the registrant to request this is also updated.

 

If you have any questions please do contact me on 01865 332244, or by

email at paulw@nominet.org.uk

 

Regards,

 

Paul Wray

 

Registrant Advisor

Registrant Services

- --------------------------

T +44 (0) 1865 332244  F +44 (0) 1865 332288  E nominet@nominet.org.uk

http://www.nominet.org.uk

 

Nominet UK is a company limited by guarantee and registered in England

under No. 3203859.  Our registered office is Minerva House, Edmund

Halley Road, Oxford Science Park, Oxford, OX4 4DQ, England.

 

=================================================[Nominet Email Ends]

 

FOR THE INFORMATION (only) of UKUUG Ltd and Surrey Linux User Group

Moderators, the email part-copied below has already been sent;

 

FOR THE INFORMATION of Red Hat, the email below should already be with

you but should NOT have been sent out with the organisation field

showing "Corporate Trouble Shooters Limited" - this is a personal and

professional matter, and is not related to that (struck off) company.

Apologies for any confusion this has created for you - my email client

clearly shows no entry in the organisation field, but one appears in my

copy of the sent email.  I know not why I do not have the time to

investigate.  This email may therefore also contain this same error.

 

Though sent yesterday at 10.40am in an attempt to stop matters getting

this far, have yet to receive any reply from this email.

 

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From: Jason Featherstone <passiveprofits@tiscali.co.uk>

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Subject: URGENT & IMPORTANT - legal action

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Dear Sir or Madam,

 

I write to request you urgently supply me by return of email with:

 

1.  full contact details for your legal department that deals with legal

matters in the UK, including telephone number, fax number, email

address(es), and postal address;

 

2.  full contact details (as above) for any human resources department

which you have dealing with employees in the UK;

 

3.  the registered office details of any and all Red Hat group companies

with the same, in England or Wales (i.e. the address Red Hat receives

service of legal process at within the jurisdiction of England or

Wales).  I have attempted to obtain this via companies house but the

database gives me a slightly confusing answer.  Alternatively,

confirmation by return of email, that this is said address and company

which employs employees working at your Farnborough campus:

 

RED HAT UK LIMITED

AMBERLEY PLACE

107-111 PEASCOD STREET

WINDSOR

BERKSHIRE

SL4 1TE

Company No. 03798903

 

I have just attempted to obtain all of the above via telephone call to

the telephone number published on your website for your Farnborough

Campus but was put through to an answering machine; no message was left.

 

Please treat this matter as highly urgent - court action may be required

today, and Red Hat may need to be enjoined as a party to those

proceedings, on the basis of vicarious liability for the suspected

criminal and civil actionable actions of one of it's employees, possibly

undertaken during office hours and also possibly undertaken using Red

Hat company resources.

 

1. and 2. above I require now, as I may wish to attempt to avoid this.

 

For your information:  I am awaiting written confirmation from a

solicitor acting on my behalf, of the identity of the suspected

offender/wrongdoer, after the same is received, hopefully in the next

few hours, from Nominet to that solicitor, who is to pass on such

information to me, as soon as it is received.

 

Please give this matter your most urgent attention.

 

Sincerely,

 

J Featherstone, LLB(HONS), barrister-at-law

 

- ------------------------------------------------[End Copy Email]

 

No doubt all in receipt of this message can now understand the

seriousness of what has been happening and what is STILL A CONTINUING

EVENT - damages no doubt accruing hourly - but a WHOIS on the following

domains confirm I verily believe, that have the identity of the offender

correct, beyond a reasonable doubt:

 

1.  virtualchambers.org.uk (defamatory/harassing see attached)

2.  peloris.co.uk (name server used for the above website)

3.  dead.li (confirmation, when output seen with the above).

 

I once again urge Red Hat to respond to my earlier email.  If not, I

will take decisions that all of us will have to live with, as your

employee is continuing what I verily believe is his criminal harassment

as I write, perhaps using your computing resources, or managing his own,

from your premises, and on your time, and with a laptop or desktop and

computer connection provided to him, by your organisation.

 

Sincerely,

 

Jason Neil Featherstone, LLB(HONS), barrister-at-law

 

 

 

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