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- [12:13:50 AM] Jacob: wait who's mormon
- [12:14:26 AM] TyMySh0e32: Me ya poop
- [12:14:32 AM] Jacob: o
- [12:14:36 AM] Jacob: cesletter.com
- [12:14:45 AM] TyMySh0e32: Wat
- [12:15:39 AM] Jacob: read it pls
- [12:16:03 AM] TyMySh0e32: Wat is it
- [12:16:06 AM] TyMySh0e32: A faith
- [12:16:14 AM] TyMySh0e32: I'm comfused
- [12:16:22 AM] TyMySh0e32: It's a Mormon who switched rite
- [12:16:37 AM] Jacob: "A native of Southern California, Jeremy was born in the covenant. A 6th generation Mormon of Pioneer heritage, Jeremy reached every Mormon youth milestone. An Eagle Scout, Returned Missionary, and BYU alumnus, Jeremy was married in the San Diego Temple with expectations and plans of living Mormonism for the rest of his life.
- In February 2012, Jeremy experienced a crisis of faith, which subsequently led to a faith transition in the summer of 2012. In the spring of 2013, Jeremy was approached and asked by a CES Director to share his concerns and questions about the LDS Church's origins, history, and current practices. In response, Jeremy wrote what later became publicly known as Letter to a CES Director."
- [12:16:49 AM] Jacob: Im an exmormon lol
- [12:17:03 AM] TyMySh0e32: You are
- [12:17:03 AM] TyMySh0e32: Rly
- [12:17:07 AM] Jacob: Yup
- [12:17:16 AM] TyMySh0e32: That isn't u tho
- [12:17:24 AM] Jacob: That's the CES Letter
- [12:17:30 AM] Jacob: Just read it pls
- [12:17:34 AM] TyMySh0e32: I did
- [12:17:52 AM] Jacob: no read the link not what I pasted
- [12:19:49 AM] Jacob: TyMyShoe
- [12:19:50 AM] Jacob: pls
- [12:20:05 AM] TyMySh0e32: So is it an actual religion?
- [12:20:08 AM] Jacob: No
- [12:20:14 AM] Jacob: Its a letter
- [12:20:26 AM] TyMySh0e32: It's just a website trying to prove Mormons wrong
- [12:20:28 AM] TyMySh0e32: Well
- [12:20:38 AM] TyMySh0e32: Saying where they think we are wrong
- [12:20:44 AM] TyMySh0e32: Which is totally fine
- [12:20:52 AM] Jacob: It highlights some fallacy's and issues
- [12:20:59 AM] TyMySh0e32: Anyone can believe whatever they want
- [12:21:05 AM] TyMySh0e32: Yeah I was reading some of them
- [12:25:02 AM] TyMySh0e32: So jacob
- [12:25:13 AM] Jacob: So TyMyShoe
- [12:25:15 AM] TyMySh0e32: Do you have a religion now?
- [12:25:17 AM] TyMySh0e32: Or wat
- [12:25:52 AM] Jacob: I'm not really sure what I believe at the moment
- [12:25:56 AM] Jacob: Mostly agnostic
- [12:26:19 AM] TyMySh0e32: Cool
- [12:26:36 AM] TyMySh0e32: So this site made you stop being Mormon
- [12:26:41 AM] Jacob: Nope
- [12:26:41 AM] TyMySh0e32: Persuaded you
- [12:26:45 AM] Jacob: Research did
- [12:26:45 AM] TyMySh0e32: What did
- [12:26:52 AM] Jacob: Church history bruh
- [12:27:00 AM] TyMySh0e32: What did you use to research
- [12:27:10 AM] ƦE$EŁłE₦₡E | ŁØGλ₦ | MλƦQUłŦØ |-----> EXØÐU$ <-----: wikipedia?
- [12:27:27 AM] TyMySh0e32: Lol that's not a very good source for church history
- [12:27:33 AM] TyMySh0e32: Mormon.org
- [12:27:38 AM] TyMySh0e32: Where it's at^
- [12:29:21 AM] Jacob: gimme a few been a while since I looked at em
- [12:29:48 AM] TyMySh0e32: K
- [12:34:25 AM] TyMySh0e32: Hurry ups I want to go to bed soon
- [12:37:33 AM] Jacob: http://mormonessays.com/
- http://cesletter.com/
- http://www.mormoninfographics.com/
- http://www.mormonthink.com/
- http://www.i4m.com/think/
- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0252062914
- A slideshow titled "Gentle Awakening"
- [12:37:41 AM] Jacob: Reading the Book of Mormon
- [12:38:20 AM] Jacob: Oh and a scripture in D&C states Joseph never actually saw the gold plates
- [12:38:32 AM] Jacob: D&C 17:5
- And ye shall testify that you have seen them, even as my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., has seen them; for it is by my power that he has seen them, and it is because he had faith.
- [12:39:39 AM] Jacob: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P-n66By07LU8Z_5qnfp1qCWOpq62fZ9kB33KV6fi4Ls/edit
- [12:39:44 AM] Jacob: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dyK0moqp8QIz2BPIh5YaUlyKmAen-0i4ksASAxUj8wA/edit
- [12:40:32 AM] RetroHacks: What are you guys tralking about wtf
- [12:40:39 AM] TyMySh0e32: My religion
- [12:40:56 AM] TyMySh0e32: And the things that Jacob states are false : P
- [12:41:41 AM] Jacob: lol
- [12:41:49 AM] Jacob: All I can do is encourage you to read up
- [12:42:09 AM] Jacob: I'm not gonna force it on you or anything
- [12:42:45 AM] TyMySh0e32: Oh I'm not wavering
- [12:42:47 AM] TyMySh0e32: No way
- [12:43:05 AM] TyMySh0e32: I was just interested that u left
- [12:43:08 AM] TyMySh0e32: And why
- [12:43:23 AM] Jacob: I left because I did research
- [12:43:26 AM] Jacob: Simple as that
- [12:43:29 AM] TyMySh0e32: Ik
- [12:43:38 AM] TyMySh0e32: And that's fine
- [12:43:42 AM] Jacob: I wasn't "convinced"
- [12:43:46 AM] TyMySh0e32: U believe what u want
- [12:43:49 AM] TyMySh0e32: I believe what I want
- [12:43:56 AM] TyMySh0e32: :P
- [12:44:03 AM] Jacob: Just tryin to help
- [12:44:11 AM] Jacob: Don't want you throwin away 10% of your income
- [12:44:17 AM] TyMySh0e32: I understand
- [12:44:20 AM] TyMySh0e32: Lol
- [12:44:49 AM] TyMySh0e32: It's not 'throwing away' to me but I understand
- [12:45:41 AM] Jacob: Well, it went towards a mall recently, jussayin
- [12:45:47 AM] RetroHacks: wtf are u guys talking bout
- [12:46:10 AM] Jacob: LDS Church
- [12:46:27 AM] TyMySh0e32: Jacob - Today 2:45 AM
- > Well, it went towards a mall recently, jussayin
- Wat lol
- [12:46:51 AM] Jacob: City Creek Center in downtown Salt Lake
- [12:47:03 AM] TyMySh0e32: Oh I've been there
- [12:47:06 AM] Jacob: Built by the real estate portion of the LDS Church
- [12:47:09 AM] TyMySh0e32: Cool place
- [12:48:05 AM] TyMySh0e32: It's also used to build these beauties :P http://gyazo.com/03b6ac7a6b9b47bbeeb6e4958f7d7a3b so I ain't complaining
- [12:48:33 AM] Jacob: But where does all the money go
- [12:48:50 AM] Jacob: they're sure building those slowly for all the tithing that's paid
- [12:49:06 AM] TyMySh0e32: Not just those
- [12:49:16 AM] TyMySh0e32: Also churches and welfare for the poor :P
- [12:50:46 AM] TyMySh0e32: Ight I'm going to bed
- [12:50:50 AM] TyMySh0e32: Good talks
- [12:50:51 AM] TyMySh0e32: Gn
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