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Moderation needs user support

a guest Apr 26th, 2015 234 Never
  1. Moderation needs user support
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  3. (15:54:23) +VCR_Working: AoC
  4. (15:54:26) +VCR_Working: [11:53:23] NickServ [services@irchighway.net]: talii is realname [11:53:23] NickServ [services@irchighway.net]: Is online from: ~talichan@cube.cursed.curious [11:53:23] NickServ [services@irchighway.net]: Time registered: Jul 20 02:33:41 2013 CEST
  5. (15:54:53) +VCR_Working: register time might be of some use
  6. (15:55:28) %fsdfdsf: Wish we could get more of talis shit banned
  7. (15:55:30) +VCR_Working: [11:55:14] NickServ [services@irchighway.net]: siztra is realname [11:55:14] NickServ [services@irchighway.net]: Is online from: ~siztra@biri.biri [11:55:14] NickServ [services@irchighway.net]: Time registered: Jul 19 22:59:17 2013 CEST [11:55:14] NickServ [services@irchighway.net]: Last quit message: Quit: Leaving
  8. (15:55:34) %fsdfdsf: Maybe he'll fuck up again
  9. (15:55:53) +AoC: I'm told that the proxy list did curb some of his shit
  10. (15:56:01) +McNuggets: What can I say? I'm a conversational guy. However, I take anonymity and confidentiality extremely seriously. So, it's all just banter.
  11. (15:56:39) +VCR_Working: so seems they retreated to irchighway
  12. (15:56:48) +VCR_Working: as well
  13. (15:57:29) +AoC: I dunno, reading all at the same time it is noticeable how stand offish you become some time after you become janitor
  14. (15:59:14) +VCR_Working: got some more info
  15. (15:59:16) +VCR_Working: [11:58:50] <Naba> * [siztra] (~siztra@biri.biri): realname [11:58:51] <Naba> * [siztra] has identified for this nick [11:58:51] <Naba> * [siztra] #foolrulez [11:58:51] <Naba> * [siztra] irc.irchighway.net :The IRCHighWay Network [11:58:51] <Naba> * [siztra] is using a secure connection (SSL) [11:58:51] <Naba> * [siztra] End of WHOIS list.
  16. (16:00:42) +McNuggets: I'll be sure to include it in my memoirs.
  17. (16:00:56) +Kazisho: People accused everyone defendingmoderation of being a janitor/mod, even before this happened.
  18. (16:01:07) +Kazisho: It was a bad idea to respond to such threads at all.
  19. (16:01:19) +McNuggets: Well, you know ... hindsight.
  20. (16:01:20) +Kazisho: Inb4 I'm a dick for saying that.
  21. (16:02:13) +Azatsu: Thing is, Kazisho, it's 100 times worse
  22. (16:02:50) +Azatsu: Right now, anyone that stands in favour of mods is seen as part of the staff.
  23. (16:03:12) %fsdfdsf: Yep
  24. (16:03:19) +McNuggets: Anyone anti-shitposting = Janitor/Mod
  25. (16:03:27) %fsdfdsf: Anything you say in support of any rule enforcement is gonna cause you to be accused of being a mod
  26. (16:03:53) +McNuggets: I've always been in favor of rules enforcement, though. Hell, rules/law is my life.
  27. (16:03:57) @RapeApe: In many ways Tali is right: we can only moderate by consent here. There are at minimum tens of thousands of posters on 4chan at any given time. There are >100 of us. We cannot stop a riot should one occur.
  28. (16:04:14) @RapeApe: It is critical that we maintain that consent.
  29. (16:04:22) %fsdfdsf: Indeed
  30. (16:05:00) +AoC: I disagree. Yes, our current ban system amounts to no more than a slap on the hand
  31. (16:05:08) » Join: kami` (~kami@truth.may.seem)
  32. (16:05:08) » ChanServ (+h) kami`
  33. (16:05:24) +McNuggets: I can't rightly agree with that either. Don't sell us short. Especially those of us who put up with /jp/ ;)
  34. (16:05:37) +AoC: but the idea that there's a point to agree with the serial shitposters is laughable because what they hold as what 4chan should be
  35. (16:05:47) +AoC: is contrary to what moot and the rest of the userbase wants
  36. (16:06:19) +McNuggets: I cannot imagine a full scale riot, though. It would take organization and leadership that they just don't have. If they did, they'd have made their own highly successful *chan and moved on long ago.
  37. (16:06:39) +AoC: so yeah, bans only last as long as the user wants them to, but there's no middle ground to reach with the Manly Tears, Tali and Siztras of the board
  38. (16:06:53) @RapeApe: I am not saying we should bend to a few morons. I am saying that if everyone hates us and disregards our authority because we have no credibility in their eyes, then this site will be utterly ungovernable.
  39. (16:07:15) +Azatsu: That's pretty much it, and why we should be extra careful currently
  40. (16:07:23) +VCR_Working: that's the point of their constant shitflinging
  41. (16:07:27) +AoC: I agree with that, yes
  42. (16:08:02) +VCR_Working: i just want people to have fun without others trying to ruin it for everyone
  43. (16:08:02) +McNuggets: Yeah, but we're not talking about everyone. We're talking about the crackheads that we drove out. I'm sorry, but I can't bring myself to feel bad about some ban evading shitposter disregarding my authority.
  44. (16:08:06) +AoC: problem is that credibility is subjective and I'd rather have the support of a good minority than a shitposter majority that doesn't care about the long term
  45. (16:08:17) +AoC: talking about jp here btw, different in other boards
  46. (16:08:30) +Azatsu: Well AoC
  47. (16:08:50) %fsdfdsf: I believe /a/ still supports their mods
  48. (16:08:53) %fsdfdsf: They are still reporting
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