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  1. 6:06 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: tox
  2. 6:06 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Mar
  3. 6:07 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: just in case you didnt know what happened
  4. 6:07 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: with soof
  5. 6:07 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: which i don't but inform me
  6. 6:07 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: he was instigating arguments with others and then continuing them when they didnt even want to
  7. 6:07 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: when i removed his moderator status for that, he questioned me a few times
  8. 6:07 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: after a while i gave him an answer, to which he said "was not a legitimate reason"
  9. 6:08 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: he said the same thing about not being a legitmate reason.
  10. 6:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and as far as i know, ramroom has the only rule of "Not being an asshole", which is what others viewed soof as
  11. 6:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and it was a "rule" that soof himself proposed
  12. 6:09 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but not all others agree with soof and stay on your side too.
  13. 6:09 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: henceforth the test shows that certain memebrs really dislike you.
  14. 6:09 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: yet other members are in favor of you.
  15. 6:09 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and when i asked who dislikes me or has a reason to not like me, all i got was "they would like to remain anonymous"
  16. 6:09 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: meaning i cant apologize to them or anything
  17. 6:09 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: If anything it seems their should be a congressional debate and conflict topic with all the parties involed while including the congressional importance of the ram room.
  18. 6:09 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but when soof asked me who didnt like him, i gave him names and he said i was lying
  19. 6:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Ram.
  20. 6:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: What if you were to start a debate in main towards soof.
  21. 6:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: out in the public.
  22. 6:11 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i already held a strawpoll once before
  23. 6:11 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: it was a couple weeks ago
  24. 6:11 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: hm..
  25. 6:11 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and the topic was "who starts more arguments in the chatroom"
  26. 6:11 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: myself, or soof
  27. 6:11 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i had 4 votes saying i did
  28. 6:11 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: soof had 6 votes saying he did
  29. 6:11 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: .
  30. 6:12 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's...quite odd...
  31. 6:12 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: I kinda want to put you and soof and myself in some room to discuss about the problem and find solutions...
  32. 6:12 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: there cant be a solution
  33. 6:12 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: at least, nothing soof will accept if its from me
  34. 6:13 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: at this point i think he just doesnt want to support any of my ideas or suggestions
  35. 6:14 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: cuz apperently from what i heard about soof is that your not communicating with him and ignoring him entirely nor do you want to improve the community. Yet interestinly enough when i pulled soof out of this room to my room on the 4-5 day he ended up feeling a lot like shit. all sad and demroalized for some reason and questioning why this thing exist, and how it's failing to where he even tried to get vexx to write some sort of document.
  36. 6:14 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it seems he's falling into denial.
  37. 6:14 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i believe so
  38. 6:14 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: im not sure if you remember when we first talked about making a new community
  39. 6:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: http://pastebin.com/J4mqyQKM
  40. 6:15 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you did brought it up and i disucssed with you about it.
  41. 6:15 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i do want it to happen but it seems that their is conflict involed that must be resolved.
  42. 6:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if you just glance over everything, soof was against a lot of points i brought up or points that i supported
  43. 6:16 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: like with the topic of having 3 enforcers/admins/officers to only enforce rules and whatnot, instead of having just one admin in control of everything
  44. 6:16 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: soof wanted one sole admin, like we had with john and JS
  45. 6:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ...
  46. 6:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Heh..
  47. 6:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: wow.
  48. 6:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you know what's funny?
  49. 6:16 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and everyone knows that didnt work out
  50. 6:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i kinda told him about my idelogicaloyl
  51. 6:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: in which he finds that mroe favorable.
  52. 6:16 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and i think its in there that he wanted atanga to be that sole admin
  53. 6:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i really wanna discuss with you two in private.
  54. 6:17 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: that probably wont happen right now because i think soof just went to sleep about an hour ago
  55. 6:17 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: if i could record my conversation with soof i de show you how he now sees the idea differently.
  56. 6:17 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: sad thing is that steam doesnt keep chat logs
  57. 6:19 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: for what i was promoting was the abolinination of leadership but actual starting out with administraions, moderations, and officers. this is quite something i can use to talk to you guys about in hope to finalize the idea.
  58. 6:19 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: yes, that is something pretty similar to what myself, nodu, and cody supported
  59. 6:19 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: instead of having one person or multiple people control the entire community
  60. 6:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: it would rather just be people enforcing the set rules
  61. 6:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: only 3 of them
  62. 6:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: to cover 24 hours a day
  63. 6:20 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: For example on N.o 24 i can debate agienst that with his idea of what we had discussed before.. N.O 27 is agreeable, theirfore a solution would be to populate the room to have diversty.
  64. 6:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: it would be just in general, and they wouldnt exactly be global admins
  65. 6:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: my system is somewhat different.
  66. 6:21 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: any memeber of the community can host a server on any game, as long as it has the support of the community
  67. 6:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: we have a good variety and category of games. and someones one arises from the rest to be a captain of a game and arrange personal events to play
  68. 6:21 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: yes
  69. 6:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Like civ 5 with poco,me,soof,and cody on fridays.
  70. 6:21 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i had that in mind too
  71. 6:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: No administration never forced them to place
  72. 6:21 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: anyone can take it upon themselves to organize events
  73. 6:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and ultiamtly games will fall.
  74. 6:22 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: man.. i seriously wished i recoreded the massive conversation with soof...
  75. 6:22 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: everything about him is completly different.
  76. 6:22 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and i think the event is what changed him a bit.
  77. 6:22 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: made him think a lot more while i bombarded him about information of what i see fit.
  78. 6:22 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: ive noticed some things about soof
  79. 6:23 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: he is too quick to make decisions during the heat of the moment
  80. 6:23 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: he will talk without thinking and only realize what he said waaay later
  81. 6:23 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: which is what makes me not take him seriously anymore
  82. 6:24 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: because if what he says now can be undone because he "didnt think about it that much"
  83. 6:24 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: whats to stop him from saying he doesnt want to be with anyone
  84. 6:24 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: he doesnt want any of us to be near him
  85. 6:24 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and then realize what he said and come back later saying he didnt mean it
  86. 6:24 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but it would be too late, the damage wouldve been done
  87. 6:25 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's perfectly fine though, it's normal behavior.. insted of stopping it just adapt and make it work, for any rashinalizing solutions he brings up, give him some time to think about it and than bring it up again.
  88. 6:25 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: by then he may have though more about it and change his ideologooly. espically if he runs it by people.
  89. 6:25 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: espically those that can understand him i suppose..
  90. 6:25 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's like an essay
  91. 6:25 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you write out what you have to say.
  92. 6:25 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and it becomes a roughdraft
  93. 6:26 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: edit stuff in it.
  94. 6:26 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but not everyone can adapt to just one person
  95. 6:26 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and then present it to someone
  96. 6:26 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: so it can become a final product
  97. 6:26 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: its like soof told everyone before with john
  98. 6:26 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: one person has to adapt to the rest
  99. 6:26 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and if soof doesnt stick to his own words....then how can we trust ANYTHING he says
  100. 6:26 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: by givin him some time to speak and than bringing it up again.
  101. 6:27 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's as simple as that and i can assure you their are other solutions if it dosen't work.
  102. 6:27 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's politics.
  103. 6:27 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's just how it works.
  104. 6:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i will tell you this
  105. 6:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: there are people who left the group mostly because of soof
  106. 6:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and the constant drama
  107. 6:30 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: rose refuses to be in the room
  108. 6:30 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: because of him
  109. 6:32 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and rose told me herself
  110. 6:32 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and yet soof doesnt believe me because rose never said anything to soof
  111. 6:33 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: yeah yeah i heard
  112. 6:34 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: to be honest rose is quite a person with an unsetting personality
  113. 6:34 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and that's okay..
  114. 7:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: do you even want a community? because thats what im seeing
  115. 7:15 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im tired of your games mar... i spefically told you directly and your still confused as shit.
  116. 7:15 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: I do want a community but your preventing it.
  117. 7:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: YES
  118. 7:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: what
  119. 7:15 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: because of htt
  120. 7:15 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: fuck you..
  121. 7:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: what..
  122. 7:15 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and fuck everyone in this group...
  123. 7:15 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i don't wanna be here anymore...
  124. 7:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: you want a community
  125. 7:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i want a community
  126. 7:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but you think im keeping it from happening
  127. 7:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and you wont tell me why
  128. 7:15 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: so im still stuck here not knowing what im doing
  129. 7:16 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if you dont TELL ME
  130. 7:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: then i suggest you figured it out..
  131. 7:16 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: then how can i fix it
  132. 7:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: on your own
  133. 7:16 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: ...
  134. 7:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: insted of questioning every answer i gave you.
  135. 7:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: cuz apperently my words not getting through you..
  136. 7:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: so im worthless as shit here..
  137. 7:16 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: ....
  138. 7:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: their's really no point...
  139. 7:16 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im giving up on this idea...
  140. 7:17 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and with all the tention and conflicts agienst oyu by the members of your ramroom group i don't think it'll ever happen...
  141. 7:17 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: http://pastebin.com/z6VRz639
  142. 7:17 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: please point out to me
  143. 7:18 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: your really annoying me mar..
  144. 7:18 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but w/e...
  145. 7:18 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i cannot fix something when i have no knowledge of what it is, tox
  146. 7:18 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: question what do you need help with.
  147. 7:18 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: what is it that your not getting..
  148. 7:18 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i told you directly and appernelty your not understanding..
  149. 7:19 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: What is your problem mar...
  150. 7:19 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: im not getting the part where i dont want a community
  151. 7:19 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im just fustrated you can't understand me..
  152. 7:19 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i cant read your mind
  153. 7:19 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Do you even have a solution on how to stop the tention between you and soof?
  154. 7:19 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if i could read minds then there would be no trouble
  155. 7:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: tension?
  156. 7:20 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: do you really think your public voting is going to really help you out when it's not consistant data?
  157. 7:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: whats not consistent about it?
  158. 7:20 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: do you seriously belive that all the members is going to ease the tention off of soof?
  159. 7:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: ALL polls will be on the forums
  160. 7:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: everyone can see who voted
  161. 7:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: everyone can vote
  162. 7:20 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: from expresisng his ideas?
  163. 7:20 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: or keep everything calm and steady?
  164. 7:20 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: theres nothing keeping anyone from expressing their ideas?
  165. 7:20 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: do you really think everyone in the room is important and capible of handleing a major change in a topic to where they can jump in
  166. 7:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and start shit up because of what they think or feel or understand or assune!?
  167. 7:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Don't you get it?
  168. 7:21 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i believe everyone ACTIVE in the chat and SOCIALIZE with the others are important
  169. 7:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: EVeryone is not equal.
  170. 7:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Everyone has issues.
  171. 7:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: And everyone cannot make a change as one giant group
  172. 7:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: It dosen't fucken work that way
  173. 7:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it nevver did
  174. 7:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and it never will.
  175. 7:21 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: so you want it to be like JS where one person makes changes without others consent
  176. 7:21 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: why can't you understand something as fucken simple as that?
  177. 7:22 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: And why do you keep putting inconsisitant words into my mouth for?
  178. 7:22 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: im not?
  179. 7:22 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: What the fuck kind of shit are you implying
  180. 7:22 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: WHat the HELL IS WRONG WITH YOu
  181. 7:22 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: you want it to be like JS where only certain members can make decisions with or without input from others
  182. 7:22 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: thats what im seeing here
  183. 7:22 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: im serious
  184. 7:23 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ...
  185. 7:23 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Yes... yes i do mar...
  186. 7:23 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's exaclty what i wanted to do...
  187. 7:23 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: you want only a small group of important people who will do things for the community
  188. 7:23 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: right?
  189. 7:23 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: yes...
  190. 7:24 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: you want them to be the ones that make decisions without the input of the unimportant ones
  191. 7:24 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: yes...
  192. 7:24 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: its not going to work out that way
  193. 7:24 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: or else we will have the same outcome as JS
  194. 7:24 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it will work out.. because were not os js..
  195. 7:24 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: what you suggest is the same thing john did
  196. 7:24 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: we don;t have a corrupted leadership
  197. 7:25 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that used only his best close friends to make decisons.
  198. 7:25 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and it wont matter if someone isnt corrupted
  199. 7:25 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: We have 5-6 members who's been throug hthat shit
  200. 7:25 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: there will eventually be people who disagree and have a better solution
  201. 7:25 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and knows how to make things right as a group.
  202. 7:25 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but the administation wont listen to it because those people arent important
  203. 7:25 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: making decisions that will permanently harm the community
  204. 7:25 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: causing it to fall apart
  205. 7:25 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: a community is nothing without its people
  206. 7:26 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: JS fell because it lacked people
  207. 7:26 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but your just saying this because your experienceing os js in the past..were not like that anymore..
  208. 7:26 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Js fell because they lack people or the modivation to aquare people.
  209. 7:26 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i want to PREVENT anything like that
  210. 7:27 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: which is why i support the "everyone is equal in their word" system
  211. 7:27 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ANd i want to prevent conflicts and tention from various members who don't belive the idelogoly and keeps quite to themselvs without solving anything but causing issues.
  212. 7:27 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if people dont agree, then they can take it to pm
  213. 7:27 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but they won't
  214. 7:27 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: because they hide their emotions.
  215. 7:27 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: it will be a rule that people do not start arguments like that
  216. 7:27 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and they try not to bring it up.
  217. 7:28 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's how life works unforutnally..
  218. 7:28 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: thats why i want to encourage people to speak up
  219. 7:28 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: they all have equal voice
  220. 7:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: instead of talking behind their back, just take it right to them
  221. 7:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: when people talk behind the back of someone else, it makes that one person unable to defend himself
  222. 7:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and also spreads false information
  223. 7:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: leading more people to believe false information
  224. 7:30 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: its happened before
  225. 7:32 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ...
  226. 7:36 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Mar..
  227. 7:37 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: yes?
  228. 7:37 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i want to fix the problem between you and soof..
  229. 7:37 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: we can try
  230. 7:37 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but i dont know if soof would be willing
  231. 7:37 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you two seriously need to dicuss your problems..
  232. 7:37 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: if anything
  233. 7:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i want to be their and watch you two talk it out.
  234. 7:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: their are things that soof told me
  235. 7:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and things that you told me.
  236. 7:38 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: then if possible
  237. 7:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: unfortunally i wasne't able to document soof's documentaition.
  238. 7:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but if i recall his words..
  239. 7:38 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i want the others to be there too
  240. 7:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: he tried to talk to you.
  241. 7:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and you woulden't listen
  242. 7:38 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: since guard, poco, arty, nodu, nuke, and cody are all witnesses
  243. 7:39 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and now your telling me that you want to try, but soof won't do it.
  244. 7:39 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: soof DID talk to me
  245. 7:39 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: you want to see?
  246. 7:39 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: http://pastebin.com/fNDJQkP2
  247. 7:39 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: thats the last time i talked to soof
  248. 7:39 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Date?
  249. 7:39 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: it was before your event
  250. 7:40 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: It's inconsistant than.
  251. 7:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: how
  252. 7:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: its the last time soof talked to me
  253. 7:40 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: because i told a lot of stuff to him in which may have changed his visual.
  254. 7:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but he hasnt even said a thing to me since then
  255. 7:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: so if he said he tried to talk to me since then, he isnt telling the truth
  256. 7:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Well as a personal friend to soof ill try to make it happen and watch.
  257. 7:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: funny thing is that he wanted to talk to you too into actually making a community..
  258. 7:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: or..something
  259. 7:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: idk.
  260. 7:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but let's see tuesday.
  261. 7:41 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: after i had a bad day once i took a step back and looked at ramroom
  262. 7:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i saw how the situation was
  263. 7:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: no one will play games
  264. 7:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: no one dedicates themselves to anything
  265. 7:42 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: well no shit mar, you have very low amount of peole and a lot of gaming categories dude.
  266. 7:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: the reason i wanted to start a community with everyone was because i missed playing games with people
  267. 7:42 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: if things keeps up you'll lose more then what you'll gain.
  268. 7:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and people just dont play because they have nowhere to play said games at
  269. 7:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: like with renegade
  270. 7:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: nuke, cody, soof
  271. 7:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: they all dont play ren but they will if theres a server to rp in
  272. 7:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ..
  273. 7:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it dosen't work that way
  274. 7:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you can try it but i don't belive it'll work.
  275. 7:44 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: okay
  276. 7:44 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: ill tell you what i had in mind then
  277. 7:44 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: renegade server, gmod server, terraria server, minecraft server
  278. 7:44 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: all as a common ground
  279. 7:44 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: they can be the core games for the community
  280. 7:45 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i object.
  281. 7:45 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: While people do like to play those games now and then, they change up fast.
  282. 7:45 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i know
  283. 7:45 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and usually they would play other games to a point where the server no longer serves the community
  284. 7:45 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: who plays terrairan nowadays?
  285. 7:45 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if anyone wants a server for another game, they are free to make arrangements
  286. 7:46 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: of coure.. that's...actually what's been happening so far.
  287. 7:46 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but what i aim for in the community is to make PUBLIC servers
  288. 7:46 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: drawing in new members
  289. 7:46 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: the problem though is that these servers are all fucken private and not publicaizes.
  290. 7:46 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: people who will 100% dedicate themselves to it
  291. 7:46 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: .
  292. 7:47 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: thus expanding the community
  293. 7:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: yeah...
  294. 7:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ._.
  295. 7:47 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: before when we had minecraft servers
  296. 7:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's...what im trying to follow..
  297. 7:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: .
  298. 7:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: DUDe
  299. 7:47 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: soof was AGAINST the idea of making it public
  300. 7:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: lol i know =w=
  301. 7:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i saw that personally.
  302. 7:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but again he's very rationalize
  303. 7:48 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i even toyed with his mind a bit.
  304. 7:48 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's funny
  305. 7:48 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: XD
  306. 7:48 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: from the behavior of soof recently, a lot of people wouldnt agree that soof is rational
  307. 7:48 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's like i would present something he haven't done in a while and suddenly he comes drawn to it for agood while
  308. 7:48 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: so yeah he's quite a person =w=
  309. 7:48 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's a bit irratating though but eh..
  310. 7:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: alright
  311. 7:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im gonna try something.
  312. 7:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it'll be a documentation of mine and ill get others too.
  313. 7:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: So let's start with you too.
  314. 7:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: DO you want a community to be establisherd?
  315. 7:52 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: yes
  316. 7:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Why.
  317. 7:53 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: because for too long we have been just a group with no establishment
  318. 7:53 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: originally ramroom was meant to only be temporary until we found a new calling
  319. 7:53 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but then its been around for almost 4 and a half years already
  320. 7:54 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: as you said, the group is ultimately dying
  321. 7:54 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but if we make a community, ramroom wouldnt even be needed
  322. 7:54 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: think of it like this
  323. 7:55 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: ramroom is a large group of friends who frequently visit a person's house
  324. 7:55 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but eventually we get bored of doing the same things over and over
  325. 7:55 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: now if we had a community
  326. 7:55 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: we could serve others with hosting our own servers
  327. 7:55 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: make new friends
  328. 7:55 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and expand
  329. 7:56 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and who wouldnt want to make new friends?
  330. 7:56 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: its not possible for someone new to join ramroom, because its a group of close people
  331. 7:56 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but it would be far easier for someone to join a community and then get to know people
  332. 7:58 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: as a group, ramroom is very diverse
  333. 7:58 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: which is a good and bad thing
  334. 7:58 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: over the years we have played games, and found new interests
  335. 7:58 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and it feels like we are drifting apart
  336. 7:59 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but in a community
  337. 7:59 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: there will be fresh meat coming in
  338. 7:59 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: with similar interests to others
  339. 7:59 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and ultimately helping EVERYONE
  340. 8:01 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and no one would ever feel left out
  341. 8:01 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: its a win-win situation imo
  342. 8:02 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Alright, thank you very much for your input.
  343. 8:06 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: you are welcome
  344. 8:06 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i shall now proceed to eat
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